Ryzen CPU with VEGA Graphics ONBOARD!

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2018-05-06 · 1,100 words · ~5 min read
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0:00 both zen and vega at this point are
0:03 pretty old news by computer industry standards but there are a couple of
0:07 things that make this combination product
0:11 more interesting than you might expect
0:15 number one is the incredible value proposition for budget gaming and number
0:21 two is the unexpectedly high performance of these entry-level
0:27 cpus once you add a discreet graphics
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0:44 LTT
0:54 let's begin by jumping right into gaming performance on ryzen g's integrated
0:59 graphics where unsurprisingly its vega
1:02 GPU stomped all over Intel's best
1:05 efforts to build a competitive on-chip graphics processor
1:10 then fell short of even a gtx 1050 ti putting
1:14 it pretty far down the pecking order compared to discrete graphics cards so
1:19 we tested at 1080p medium details but
1:23 based on our results it's more likely that you would opt for 720p high or
1:28 1080p low though to be clear we are not
1:33 complaining about this budget gamers would have given their
1:36 left nut for 720p high 12 years ago when
1:40 AMD first began work on the combination
1:44 CPU GPU paradigm
1:47 moving on to productivity we get very similar results to the same clocked
1:53 older generation ryzen chips with the new g series actually pulling off some
1:58 better results in tests like multi-threaded cinebench and v-rays CPU
2:04 benchmark and then leaving Intel's onboard
2:07 graphics standing on the starting line in the GPU version
2:11 now we also saw similar or better scores compared to old verizon in ASUS real
2:16 bench ignoring the opencl result since they obviously favor discrete graphics
2:20 cards and blender CPU test continues the
2:24 trend with team blue getting smashed and the GPU test once again showing us that
2:28 8 and 12 cus respectively aren't ideal
2:32 for heavy lifting so what have we got here then
2:36 we've got a couple of really nice upgrades the 2200g obsoletes basically
2:42 the entire existing ryzen 3 lineup and
2:45 remember you can just plunk this into any existing ryzen compatible
2:49 motherboard with at most a BIOS update and the 2400g ends up being a toss-up
2:55 with the more expensive 1600x so what you get is onboard graphics and
3:01 in some cases better performance due to the four plus zero ccx design and second
3:07 generation precision boost but what you give up is some level three cache and a
3:11 couple of cores for heavy multi-threaded workloads
3:15 now these are budget product so AMD
3:18 costed down the ihs to a traditional thermal pace this time around though
3:23 that shouldn't be a big deal at this package power and ryzen runs pretty cool
3:27 anyway and while we've never had great results
3:31 with ryzen overclocking today's chips were particularly unimpressive both of
3:36 them managed only 3.85 gigahertz on all cores which is more than the precision
3:41 boost frequency of the 2200g but actually less than the 2400 g to be
3:48 clear that's on all cores so it's still a net gain for some workloads and the
3:53 2400g managed it at a lower voltage
3:56 but we just need to make sure that you're going into your purchase here
3:59 with realistic expectations for a single
4:02 benjamin and change thermals were a little higher than usual
4:07 for ryzen thanks to the higher default voltages and probably the lesser thermal
4:12 compound but power consumption was basically spot on only a few watts
4:16 different than the same clocked og ryzen cpus our Intel chips that should be
4:21 noted managed lower idle draw
4:24 alright so let's talk upgrade path now a
4:28 lot of people go out and buy a CPU like this with integrated graphics with the
4:32 intention of only using those temporarily so what is gaming like once
4:37 you throw in a dedicated graphics card
4:41 actually fine so we ran our ryzen cpus with a 1050 ti
4:47 in the earlier testing and then re-ran our g series with it as well and we got
4:52 similar if slightly lower results across
4:55 the board so it looks then like AMD's decision to split the pci express lanes
5:01 between the integrated vega core and the PCIe 16x slot giving only eight lanes
5:07 for each didn't actually hurt them too badly
5:11 so at 99 and 169 respectively the ryzen 3 2200g
5:18 and ryzen 5 2400g are both better values
5:22 than their predecessors and integrated vega graphics with some help from native
5:27 support for higher speed 2933 dual channel ddr4 memory gives them much
5:32 better performance and maybe even more importantly
5:36 compatibility in GPU intensive tasks
5:39 than anything that Intel can muster
5:43 so Intel who opted not to seed us the
5:47 price competitive processors saying we'd have to go buy them if we wanted to
5:50 compare g i wonder why holds the performance crown for CPU only
5:56 tasks but as for living room pc enthusiasts or
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