The WAN Show - Valve is still the best and digital distribution is great! - August 22, 2014

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0:01 all right guys sorry we're a couple minutes late very unusual for us I don't
0:05 know this it's once in a lifetime opportunity that we would actually be
0:09 late yeah actually we're we're we're we're 6 minutes late which is which is
0:13 pretty good they should all be congratulating us at this point and no
0:17 technical okay no we did have some technical difficulties we had more than
0:20 one yeah okay so our video capture card I put the wrong one on and there were no
0:25 drivers for that one and then um the
0:28 computer was just like every a couple seconds like yeah our stream computer
0:33 was being super not cool it's like bro
0:37 bro you being not cool bro uh I don't want to run right now so I'm I'm going
0:42 just walk and trip
0:45 sometimes being not good not good not cool um and then I thought there was no
0:51 audio but it turns out I stepped on the cord so his headphones just weren't
0:55 plugged in yes winner fortunately that
0:59 one was relatively easy to diagnose just like diagnosing how much fun we're going
1:04 to have in the next half an hour let me just uh listen to your uh oh
1:10 his heart's racing fun fun fun fun
1:14 terrible all right so we got a bunch of great topics today digital distribution
1:18 reigned Supreme in the PC market so in other words nothing has changed ever
1:24 also valve is the most desirable employer in the gaming industry because
1:29 nothing has has changed ever various ddr4 pricing news will be coming later
1:34 on and the Star Wars unaltered Trilogy could possibly be coming to
1:41 Blu-ray perfect
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3:49 got uh elected or whatever by did you just get challenged by Timmy by Timmy I
3:53 think so very nice he sent me a YouTube link and was like hash slick hash slick
3:59 that's how it's going to be all right so speaking of how it's going
4:02 to be how it's always been and how it forever will be I think that was the
4:07 first thing I said but if you don't think about it too hard it won't make
4:11 your brain hurt valve is the number one
4:15 most desirable employer in the gaming
4:19 industry they surveyed 2,200 companies and people even ranked
4:24 uh working for valve above having their own
4:28 company oh man that's kind of well to be
4:31 clear having your own company ain't all it's cracked up to be but having your
4:35 own company always gets rated extremely highly does it usually yeah in almost
4:39 all Industries it gets rated pretty highly this is something I didn't know so this was a survey with 2200 game devs
4:45 this was posted on the Forum by lots of in unexplainable I think you're looking
4:49 for the word inexplicable unexplainable
4:52 I think technically that is grammatically correct I think so okay
4:57 well lots of unexplainable lag any anyway thank you for posting it on the
5:01 Forum however much your username has confused me sorry carry on um yeah I
5:05 think like in in a wide set of Industries having your own companies
5:09 rated very highly but then you also have to remember that this is coming from people that haven't run their own
5:13 company right yeah right so that's a
5:18 thing so as someone who has run their own company there are
5:22 benefits however it's not like I have a
5:26 hard time selling people on coming to work for me because I think that they
5:31 understand that it's not all just
5:34 benefits like like my both my parents have ran their own companies I did for a
5:39 very small period of time and I know you're running one right now and it's
5:44 it's it's yeah it's not easy there are good things about it there are
5:47 definitely good things about it I set my own hours but that's also one of the
5:50 worst things about it because you set because to to be very successful you
5:54 kind of need to set very large amount of hours I think there's this there's this
5:57 weird assumption that as a CEO you could just be like well I'm going to take 876
6:03 days of vacation like George Bush did in his term but um I think what it actually
6:08 turns into is you end up working usually double hours for like almost every week
6:13 yeah and I mean the thing too though is if you have a fantastic team that's able
6:18 to support you like I was able to take a week off where I was pretty much
6:22 completely unplugged for the birth of my new baby girl um if you have that then
6:29 that's great but most self-employed people work really long and really hard
6:34 in order to get to that point so I mean I I was lucky to be able to do it for a
6:39 week for me to take a two- week vacation it's probably going to be a little while
6:42 longer I'm going to have to add some more staff and so it's one of those
6:47 things where you can have a very small business like I've crunched the numbers
6:50 I've I've been honest with you guys about this I've crunched the numbers
6:54 what kind of money could I make as a YouTuber with my kind of following just
6:59 like like me and a chess tripod pumping
7:02 out videos that are completely unedited you know what I could pay myself a lot
7:07 more like multiples more but that's not
7:11 really the point because if you're trying to build a sustainable business
7:15 you have to invest and you have to spend a lot of money on people who can support
7:20 the business and actually help to grow it if you get really good people so
7:24 that's the thing that every business owner has to struggle with and you look
7:29 at you look at any industry so let's look at the gaming industry like an
7:32 indie dev has to decide crazy hours do I work crazy stupid hours to make the game
7:39 myself from scratch or do I pay crazy
7:42 money to build this team that then I'm
7:45 banking on being able to pay back and then you have all that stress and then
7:48 you're not sleeping anyway so it's it's not it's not the best thing ever even
7:53 though there are definitely benefits and I know Indie devs that have gone both
7:56 ways so I don't know
8:00 I do know that as well
8:03 actually all righty then now to be clear
8:07 valve internal structure is not universally praised I mean I don't think
8:11 anyone complains about the snack room but like no no no I think our snack room
8:17 isn't exactly amazing I actually have an upgrade to our snack room coming yes
8:22 it's a gumball machine that legitimately works but you have to put money in it oh
8:28 no of course oh man of course it was mine when I was
8:32 a kid my aunt brought it over to my house and I was just like oh sweet I
8:36 think it takes quarters okay yeah I had a uh my neighbor at one point in time
8:40 had this like old school pot machine that you had to put money into mhm but
8:44 then he had just cut a hole so the money just fell back out yeah that's not going
8:47 to happen I know great idea though I like the way you think now the gumball
8:51 machine that we got from super fun is broken to the point where to get
8:55 gumballs out of it you just take the top off reach in and pull gumballs out and
8:58 then put the top back on not very secure I wish I hadn't invested in that gumball
9:02 machine okay now to be clear guys not everything is perfect there they don't
9:07 have like a hierarchical hierarchy yeah
9:12 um but there's there's like the I don't
9:16 know what they exactly call it but there's like obviously Gabe is kind of
9:19 leading things and he has his his like right hand leftand kind of group of
9:23 people which he kind of has lead other people it's just it's not like a very
9:27 cleancut extreme structure but it's also not completely flat so it's been
9:32 criticized as being a little bit like high school because there will tend to
9:36 be people staking out their own claims and clicks and and stuff like that
9:41 although I mean there's some great stuff you know you there are no shareholders
9:44 it is a privately held company so you don't have to ship something unless you're happy with it um there's also the
9:50 fact that you can take as much vacation time as you want which sounds kind of
9:53 like being self-employed because that's just another way of saying you know we
9:58 have this loose culture where you can work however hard you want but like
10:03 other people are going to be working hard so you can just get fired it's
10:07 almost like a peer pressure system as opposed to just and I'm sure it'll come
10:11 down to like if you have some super crazy awesome trip you can be like oh
10:15 hey cool this is great and a lot of people are going to know what you're doing and you go do that and come back
10:18 and then work hard again as long as you continue to work hard it's probably fine
10:22 and the high school thing I think anytime you ever even try to have any
10:27 amount of a flat structure you're going to run with this many employees you're
10:30 going to run into that type of a situation I think anytime you try to add
10:34 more than a half a dozen employees to a company never mind the structure you're
10:38 going to end up with high school or daycare or both like have you ever
10:41 worked at a big box store of any sort ever it's just an extension of high
10:46 school it doesn't even matter how old the people are that worked there it's
10:49 just an extension of high school Best Buy was my best example for that I used
10:53 to work in Geek Squad when I was like really young I was in like grade 10 I
10:57 think I started working in Geek Squad and and yeah the whole store is just an
11:01 extension of high school it's redonkulous um so yeah again nothing has
11:07 really changed here Val has always been that like everyone wants to go work
11:11 there because it's awesome company and they're not EA woo
11:16 um and like cool they did a study about it but the yeah this has been this has
11:21 been known for a very long time so it's not exactly new I got a straw pull for
11:24 you guys want to hear from you what is your workplace like
11:29 so I'm going to hit up the hit up the twitch chat with this bad boy we'll run
11:34 that while we do our next topic here what do you
11:37 think spam spam spam I don't think we're
11:40 very high school like I mean part of it is that it's how you defend the I mean I
11:47 think it's how you define the High School Lake thing okay we're kind of
11:50 High School Lake and that we're very casual yeah but we all get along which
11:54 is not I think the connotation of high school like is the clicks and the
11:58 fighting and the the clicks and the pettiness I don't think we're very Petty
12:02 no I think we have the I think we might have some features of a possible High
12:06 School label though yeah there's like
12:09 the the Friday after work when everyone kind of like groups up in the main room
12:13 and just talks about like random crap I don't know right but I think we're more
12:17 that that bottom one which no one is voting for yeah mature cohesive and
12:21 teamwork focused yeah dog all right what's our next topic uh pretty much
12:26 some of the same whereas nothing things ever changed which is digital
12:31 distribution finally Reigns the PC market I think we've all kind of known
12:35 this for a long time even in the article they talk about how in Rec as recently
12:40 as 2010 there was only 48% of the game purchases were made digitally isn't that
12:44 amazing that's half in 2010 apparently it is now 92% as of
12:50 2013 it's not even 2013 anymore it was 92% and you know what you don't have to
12:55 be a crazy amazing mathematician to figure out that these are really big
12:59 numbers so you look at okay you look at a studio you look at someone like
13:02 Microsoft or did I say micos sorry
13:05 Ubisoft I got a lot of hate going on on Microsoft uh in this episode so maybe
13:11 you'll be you'll be catching more that so you look at something like someone like Ubisoft and how they're looking at
13:16 okay well 133% or whatever it was we talked about this last week are 17% I
13:21 think it was let's say about 15% and head our bets um so over a tenth of
13:25 their overall business was PC gaming
13:29 then you look at that and you go okay well ubisoft's a public company you can
13:33 look up exactly how much revenue they had in a given year so then you kind of
13:37 go okay well Ubisoft makes up whatever slice of the overall gaming industry
13:42 that there is and wow holy crap are we ever talking about
13:48 a lot of hundreds of millions of dollars that has shifted to digital and
13:54 so kind of a really big deal um one one
13:57 thing that I have to say about this though time yeah yeah is that they're
14:02 saying as like as recently as 2010 only 48 only 48% of the PC game purchases
14:08 were made digitally that only is kind of hilarious but yeah I know right uh even
14:12 since then and before then it got to the point where it was difficult to buy PC
14:17 games physically y like there was there's been a lot of stuff where there
14:20 was no option well you like to buy gamesys I and I try and it's been hard
14:26 since before 2010 and now it's n impossible for a lot of different games
14:30 in the last 10 years actually it's it's kind of neat cuz I'm coming up on 10
14:34 years of having known my wife so I can kind of like I can say okay I can talk I
14:39 can talk about a 10year period very easily when I met her and we'd go to the
14:44 mall it was entertaining for me to go to the EB Games and browse while she went
14:50 and shopped yeah in that time it's gone
14:53 from it actually PC gaming made up a significant chunk of the store to PC
14:58 gaming is like one side of one unit and
15:03 it's like it might not even be so
15:06 they'll have the latest title and they'll have a few copies of that on an endcap and then they'll have like some
15:11 copies of like Starcraft too Cod and blizzard yeah or they'll have like like
15:16 whatever some staple type games and then
15:20 that's it yeah so they kind of did it to themselves on the other hand I can
15:24 understand where they're not stocking it if it's not selling so yeah but then
15:28 yeah that's like I there's it's not even just places like EB Games though because
15:32 I think a lot of different gaming companies are straight up just not releasing physical copies of the games
15:37 it's not like EB Games is specifically trying not to or GameStop or whatever is
15:41 trying not to stock these things I think they might not even have an option which
15:45 is kind of frustrating yeah it's not like something like uh you know a Humble
15:48 Bundle is realistically going to have a physical exactly or a lot of Indie Games
15:52 in general which are becoming a really big thing recently or stuff like league
15:56 and uh DOTA which is brought up in here a lot where a lot of purchases are going
16:01 towards stuff like league and in-game micro style transactions which are
16:05 getting calculated into this percentage number even though they're not actually
16:09 a like a discr sale yeah you bought this
16:12 game it's not that but it's still being calculated in this number which it should be that makes sense but yeah I
16:17 don't know I I feel like it was forced into this position I know there's a lot
16:21 of people that do prefer the digital distribution style but I think people
16:26 like me who want physical copies I'm raising my donger too you just can't
16:32 tell you can tell that I rose mine
16:37 um awesome uh so I I think people like
16:40 me that actually want physical games were kind of forced out of being able to
16:44 buy them but you guys are basically dumb
16:47 so yeah I mean there are legitimate reasons to need physical games slow
16:51 internet connections you know guys in Australia not that they can buy games at
16:56 all because they come out you know however many months later it's like Australia I screwed and then screwed
17:00 again screwed some more when I used to live with my parents it made a lot of sense cuz we didn't have an amazing
17:05 internet connection so it was actually a lot faster to just drive to the freaking
17:08 store and drive back right like it's it just was um but that being said a lot of
17:13 games now you you go to the store and you come back you put the disc in it's like okay download it yeah I know
17:18 download this how big was the patch for
17:21 um 50 sorry 50 gigs you're talking about
17:25 Cod yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no there was another one that we installed
17:29 recently it was a PC game and it had something like a six gig patch was it
17:32 Battlefield 4 there was like a day one or day two
17:35 patch I remember can't remember might have Battlefield 4 yeah it's ridiculous
17:39 I know Titanfall was Titanfall is 50 gigs yeah so I get that I get that yeah
17:44 um all right so what's our what's our next topic here um more news about high
17:49 prices of ddr4 yeah oh should I go get our ddr4 oh no we already showed that
17:53 last week anyway uh we have other ddr4 but it might be on a test bench
18:02 he doesn't he means like he laid it on yeah that's what I mean I I didn't say
18:06 anything about having a motherboard and a ddr4 compatible CPU course just
18:10 sitting on the test bench mind you if you were to you know type anything about
18:13 ddr4 into Google well whatever I'm reading all the same rumors you guys are
18:17 reading right of course so anyway Australian site PC case gear and UK site
18:22 scan. co.uk both release pre-order prices on some Corsair ddr4 products
18:27 including their new vengeance series as well as Dominator Platinum so we are
18:32 looking at pricing that is double digits
18:36 percentages more expensive than
18:40 DDR3 however and this was originally posted on the Forum by blueprint um
18:45 there's another article that spins it in a bit of a different way and this was
18:50 originally posted by Luca and it's from overclock
18:53 3D G skill they're rip Jaws for 3,000
18:59 mahz ddr4 kit which may or may not be on
19:02 one of my test benches laying on it yeah laying on it that exact in the package
19:07 still because there's obviously nothing to put in it is actually going to be
19:10 priced pretty similarly to a 3,000 MHz
19:14 DDR3 kit to which I kind of go okay well
19:18 that's cool because at least those hyper overclock DDR3 kits that hardcore
19:24 enthusiasts who want lots of cores on their CPU for example uh might have been
19:29 inclined to go towards anyway at least
19:32 those will be fairly similar although I could also make a lot of arguments for
19:36 us not really needing 3,000 MHz DDR3
19:39 kits in the first place and we've made those videos so anyway the G skill one
19:44 is priced at 360 Great Britain pounds whereas 8 gig kits of DDR3 at that speed
19:49 are 320 Great Britain pounds so there
19:53 you go um I I don't think that really
19:57 applies to a ton of people but it is interesting to see that maybe there
20:00 isn't the most massive price hike ever
20:03 and to people looking at it going okay yeah they run it the same frequency but
20:07 the ddr4 kit is going to have looser timings something that a little bird
20:12 told me is that primary timings might
20:15 not be as much of a concern with ddr4
20:19 and we might be looking at a situation where actually playing around with
20:23 secondary timings called so because they're not the they're not the main
20:28 five timings of a DDR memory module but rather they're more about inter inter
20:34 dim communication and that kind of stuff those secondary timings May or sorry did
20:40 I say inter intra um those secondary timings may actually end up being very
20:45 very important and something that the maker won't really be able to advertise
20:49 in the traditional sense so we're either going to see memory manufacturer shift
20:53 towards giving us a much deeper set of
20:56 timings when they spec out their RAM or people might just end up being pretty
21:00 confused for a bit here so there you go
21:04 it's going to be pretty interesting although that is still no matter how
21:09 much you want to say like oh yeah well this kid compared to this ridiculous kid
21:12 is actually not that bad of a deal still way too expensive for me I will jump on
21:18 that bandwagon much further in the future did you okay have you been an
21:22 early adopter to any memory Tech no I
21:26 waited for DDR3 I waited for ddr2 cuz
21:30 the first DDR3 platform was what LGA
21:35 1366 no the first DDR3 platform was 775
21:39 but it made no sense at that point I think this is the first time in a while
21:43 actually that we haven't seen a single socket have multiple memory platform
21:49 compatibility because it's always been this early stages very expensive time
21:55 period has been at a time when it doesn't really make any sense to buy it
21:58 anyway because it performs the same and it's on a chip that was really designed
22:01 for the previous technology yeah cuz I had dominators on 775 which were ddr2
22:05 yeah cuz moving from ddr1 to ddr2 um
22:08 when AMD was really the Enthusiast platform of choice we did get new SKS
22:13 and we did get a new socket but we didn't actually get a microarchitecture
22:16 update right so it was the same performance you could just pay more for
22:20 memory or not pay more for memory and
22:23 that that series of processors was very dependent on latency so DDR one
22:28 performed really well in the real world aside from you know just running memory
22:33 band with Ben the ddr1 to ddr2 change was the most hilarious yeah and then
22:37 ddr2 to DDR3 no I think ddr2 to DDR3 was
22:40 pretty stupid because basically that was the p45 days when pretty much Gigabyte
22:47 or ASUS or whoever would have like the motherboard for ddr2 and then the
22:53 motherboard for DDR 3 this one would be like $100 more not faster less stable
22:59 because early DDR3 was bad I saw more
23:02 people blindly adopting ddr2 than I saw people blindly adopting DDR3 well they
23:06 probably got burned when ddr2 was bad
23:10 probably I mean DDR ddr2 that was that
23:13 was the N4 680i days like that was when
23:16 the problem was the chipset was bad like the Enthusiast chipset of choice was
23:20 terrible and the memory was just not
23:24 validated properly like I remember ocz
23:27 SL sticks of memory putting them into
23:31 680i boards they were only supposed to
23:34 work in one board and they wouldn't work I used to
23:39 hate how they did naming at that time frame with like SLI and all that kind of
23:43 stuff it's like go away speaking of
23:46 which uh both ocz and using existing
23:50 branding to uh try to sell completely
23:53 unrelated products great segue thank you
23:56 uh here we go oh I got the whole dock up here this was originally posted by
24:00 brainless 9906 on the Forum and AMD is
24:04 planning to uh well not planning to they're planning to sell I guess they
24:08 have already released their AMD ssds so
24:12 they're calling these the r7240 or something like that I remember
24:17 it being funny because when my review sample arrived the box was labeled r7240
24:22 and then the description was video card because a lot of these companies when
24:26 they fill out their invoices they just have a standard one that they put kind
24:30 of no matter what they're shipping so it just says video kard I'm like why would
24:33 they send me an r7240 uh but actually it was an R S Series SSD
24:39 so it's based on the ocz Barefoot 3
24:42 controller it's got some tashiba 19 nanometer class nand on it um there are
24:47 a few reviews out basically it's um it's
24:51 an SSD it's not terribly expensive it does come with a 4year warranty it's
24:57 more expensive than 84 Evo it is a little bit
25:01 faster um it comes with a cloning
25:04 software to me this is this is kind of one of those things where I look at it
25:08 and go if you were really determined to build like an AMD outed
25:13 system then you could buy this and it
25:16 would be fine there's nothing wrong with it there's nothing wrong with the Barefoot 3 controller truthfully it's
25:20 just it's it's boring yeah it's another
25:24 commodity SSD at this point I feel like we don't really need another SSD player
25:29 we have a number of very strong SSD players don't yeah we kind of don't have
25:34 another SSD player because nothing on this is actually manufactured or
25:37 designed by AMD I understand why they might want to get into the market that
25:42 way I mean that's how ocz did it they went from rebranding indel links and
25:46 sandforce controllers to designing their own IP and their own controller by
25:51 acquiring indel links mind you but but they still did it um and you look at
25:55 even companies like Intel where sometimes they design their own controller sometimes they just write a
26:00 firmware but they're always using their own flash you look at guys like SanDisk
26:04 where they use their own flash they actually Fab flash so even though
26:07 they're using someone else's controller they're contributing something they made in this case AMD is coming in very late
26:12 contributing nothing that they've actually designed or manufactured and um the pricing is fine
26:20 it's just not going to be you can never compete with someone like Samsung who is
26:25 fully integrated where they're taking the margin on the flash manufacturing
26:30 they're taking the margin on the controller manufacturing they're taking
26:33 any margin that would exist in terms of a software license and they're taking
26:37 the margin on the finished drive that they put in a box and deliver to the
26:40 customer so at every level they're taking their margin so how was AMD
26:44 supposed to compete with that yeah I don't know I just I was
26:49 fairly underwhelmed because they had all that all that hype build for this well
26:53 the hype might be for something else as well I'm not sure I think they have a
26:57 live stream scheduled this week weekend although it's at 700 a.m. my time so
27:01 they were like lonus are you going to tune in I'm like no was the live stream
27:05 for this weekend for the star seon thing though I don't know I don't think we can
27:09 say what the live stream this weekend is for I know what it's for don't try
27:12 trying to trying to God we have to like play into the
27:18 rumors that are out there okay what's what are the rumors there was a tweet
27:21 for let me see if I can find it oh jeez
27:25 I thought you were going to like break our NDA oh man okay Chris Roberts
27:31 no I don't know where the Tweet is but someone from AMD was like you should
27:36 watch because stars is in news oh okay so I was like oh
27:41 mantle cuz that's probably what that is maybe I don't know we already know stard
27:46 is getting we already know that okay sure
27:49 but like what else is going to be in the Star news right and the the start season
27:53 actually getting mantled I think it's been moderately up in the air I don't
27:57 know if it was 100 % confirmed no I think it's it's a confirmed title yeah
28:01 yeah yeah yeah it doesn't have it yet but it's confirmed that it will at some
28:04 point although with AMD releasing
28:07 everything to the openg Kronos group I
28:11 don't know how much sense mantle will make by that time Star Citizen actually
28:14 comes out anyway by the time star s actually comes
28:18 out the the year
28:21 2070 all right so uh other AMD news that
28:25 is actually much more exciting hosted by Tech fnatic who is our resident AMD news
28:30 poster is that Richard H AMD's gaming
28:33 wait didn't we talk about this last week I don't think so oh okay well if we
28:39 just in case we didn't or just in case we did we'll cover it but we'll do it
28:42 pretty quickly we might have so free sync is going to be looking at a very
28:46 minimal cost for monitor manufacturers could be between $10 and $20 in total
28:51 cost although something to understand guys is that $10 to $20 of cost the
28:56 general rule is by the time the end user
28:59 actually holds that product it's going to be about double that so you have to
29:03 understand that their retailer is going to want their margin the manufacturer is
29:08 going to want their margin um the you know MDF program that they have with
29:14 whoever is going to want their margin they're going to build in some extra margin for people to return the product
29:19 because now it's a more expensive product that people might return and they might not be able to do anything
29:22 with it so all those things we're looking at about double of a bomb cost
29:26 typically so there you go so it'll add anywhere
29:30 between 20 and 40 bucks so here's the tweet it was from AMD Radeon it says we
29:34 know you're excited about star in from Robert Space Industries you'll want to
29:38 tune in to Ash amd3 live tomorrow Billy
29:41 link oh okay cool so I just yeah I don't
29:45 know so anyway the exciting thing about it is that we could be looking at
29:48 freesync monitors that are sampling next month and could arrive to consumers in
29:51 early 2015 which compared to g-sync
29:55 which is here now um is kind of unfortunate but is not as long as I
30:00 thought it might take so if you were looking to hold out sort of a little bit
30:05 longer as opposed to you know another nine months to a year then you're in
30:08 luck especially with um how kind of slowly graphic technolog is coming out
30:13 so if you're pretty good right now you're probably pretty good for a while
30:17 y all right what do else one of your three monitors I know you're going to be
30:21 excited about those yeah so this was posted by notional on the Forum and LG
30:26 is unveiling three new monitors a couple
30:31 of which uh well one of which gets me really excited one of which gets his
30:35 panties pretty wet and the other one of which is almost there yeah for both of
30:41 us all right so the original article on gur 3D why don't I do the one that I
30:45 like sure so that monitor that I love
30:48 ever so much the 9534 I can't even remember the model
30:53 number because I 3495 is what I think it is
30:58 they are going to be releasing what looks like pretty much a curved version
31:03 of that now curved displays we've actually done the fast as possible on
31:07 this before they don't make sense in every context in fact a lot of the time
31:12 they're basically stupid you should not be buying a 42 in or even I'd say a 50in
31:19 curved TV for your living room because unless you are a forever alone and you
31:24 only watch TV by yourself always the
31:28 problem is that a curved TV is going to deliver a slightly better viewing
31:31 experience for someone in the sweet spot but an actually worse one for anyone
31:36 who's outside of it and a flat TV is going to be a better bet in that case
31:40 however once a display gets large enough that multiple people can fit in the
31:45 sweet spot so to speak cram them in there um it starts to make sense now
31:49 with a monitor a you don't have to worry about multiple viewers very often so
31:54 that threshold for when a display is big enough is going to be more easily
31:58 achievable and for number two this is
32:01 big enough 34 in sometimes I feel
32:05 sitting in front of my monitor at work like a slight curvature would be really
32:08 nice so it's 3440 by 1440 I think it's 6
32:12 milliseconds of uh response time so pretty much the same as the other one
32:16 nothing special with respect to what they're claiming about input leg or
32:20 anything like that so I'm not expecting it to be amazing for gaming the way that
32:25 the 29in one is a little bit better than the existing 34 in one but uh very
32:30 exciting from a productivity standpoint and for gamers who are more interested
32:34 in the immersion I personally in spite of our recent surround gaming build
32:38 guide I personally find a larger wider
32:42 screen without bezels more immersive than bezels and you'll notice I said
32:46 very carefully in that video if you're into this then this is the ultimate
32:51 setup but for me personally I'd rather have a single screen I've also never
32:55 really been into that like multi mon surround gaming thing it makes sense
33:00 I've seen it in some situations especially for flight Sims yeah or
33:03 driving like simulators where those well those
33:06 Windows aren't it's not even necessarily a curve those are dedicated to Windows
33:10 in the vehicle yeah and if you're supposed to be in a cockpit anyway
33:13 what's another you know support structure or whatever for the glass
33:17 right like I'm okay with that but first person it doesn't do much for me yeah me
33:21 Nei so the next one is a 31 mu 997 31 in
33:25 true 4k monitor the only thing that should clarify what
33:29 true 4K means I was just going to jump into that it's were you GNA jump
33:34 in it's 496 by 2160 which I believe is
33:38 like 19
33:41 by10 that's what it stated on Wikipedia okay so I I was kind of hoping for 16 by
33:48 10 um but you know it's all good close enough and that's kind of the resolution
33:53 that I've been waiting for for a long time so excited for that the only thing
33:56 that kind of gets me slightly worried about this is um the fact that it's 31
34:02 in I know you have experience with really really large monitors but I'm not
34:06 necessarily sure if I'm ready to jump that high considering I use 24in
34:10 monitors but something I have been thinking about for quite a while is getting a really big monitor in the
34:14 middle of my setup and then setting my two current 24-in monitors into vertical
34:17 mode on the side you know it's it's funny you bring that up because I by the
34:22 way that aspect ratio is apparently 256 to
34:26 135 and that's rounded to the nearest hold number or
34:30 something so
34:35 yeah I don't know if that's right anyway the point
34:38 is width and height yeah I think I answered it right what were we saying
34:42 right so size of monitor when I originally went 30in and I used a 30-in
34:46 monitor for a few years um a Samsung 2560
34:50 x600 um I I liked it a lot there was an
34:53 adjustment period moving to it and like
34:56 I got used to how big that one again that was a 30 so I got used to it but
35:01 you know what I've since gone down to 27
35:04 in 16x9 and I never miss my 30 in I never
35:09 miss the extra screen real estate once I'm at 1440 tall when at 1080 tall I
35:15 don't like it and I would rather have an older 16 by10 aspect ratio or even even
35:21 a maybe even a square one compared to that I don't like 16 by9 small wide me
35:25 neither which is why I've been sitting on 16 X10 for so long and I'd be okay
35:28 with going bigger than 24 I just don't know if 31 is 27 is a really nice place
35:35 to be for a single monitor setup and honestly if I was running multi monitor
35:39 I would prefer 24 yeah so that that's
35:42 but that's why I've been thinking about that that one large one in the middle
35:45 and then possibly the two verticals on the side you know what I really want to
35:49 do as a project because yeah I mean okay with
35:52 both of us the big issue with multim monitor is the bezels but there are a
35:57 lot of monitors where you can strip them
36:00 down and you can take all the plastic stuff away and end up with very very
36:04 thin bezels because the bezel is effectively there to protect it a lot of
36:08 the time so if it's just going to sit on your desk forever there's no reason not to remove it I'd be I'd be interested to
36:14 do like a project build where we strip down three monitors use our ergotech
36:18 stand and see if that helps it's not a
36:21 bad idea just kind of sit in front of it and take it in and decide for what
36:27 exactly though because I think I still think first person kind of style is
36:31 still going to be messed up and I still think that kind of cockpit driving style
36:36 is still going to be awesome I don't think you're going get away from that
36:39 because of the wrapping right because you're going to get the weird warping effects on the far
36:44 side of the screen where things are on a really weird angle they're stretched and
36:49 they move too quickly I mean if games had better support for it I think I'd
36:52 feel better about it like if we were if if if basically you could set up the
36:56 game where it's like look here are my three camera angles I want it to look
36:59 like I'm turning my head this way as opposed to looking like you know the
37:04 scene is made of silly putty when you yeah yeah exactly if there was better
37:08 support I think it would be really cool but it just like super
37:11 breaks in most games that you put it in so unless you're willing to put a fair
37:16 bit of work into it and then a lot of the time you can fix it yep if you
37:19 utilize all these little custom tools and then there's the last monitor which
37:22 is like almost super cool it's the 24 GM 77 that's a 144 Hertz gaming monitor
37:28 with Dynamic action sync which drastically reduces input leg apparently
37:33 so they're saying less than 1 Mond response time includes a black stabilizer and motion
37:38 240 but does not seem to include
37:41 adaptive syn or gsync I am at a point now where I don't
37:47 know how I would feel about investing in an expensive gaming monitor that doesn't
37:52 have g-sync we actually have a review upcoming of Ben's XL 2410 something to
37:59 our 2411 something and we'll have to
38:03 like basically uh I think Luke's going to be doing that one that was what we had discussed I think so yeah so so what
38:08 I've done is I've handed Luke our gsync
38:11 uh engineering sample ASUS monitor and the Ben q and the analysis is going to
38:16 be look if gsync costs another hundred
38:19 bucks is it worth it to invest in a high
38:23 refresh rate monitor that doesn't have gsync at this point and I think that's
38:26 really going to be the angle yeah I haven't gotten that ASUS one from
38:30 you yet yeah I gave it to you it's on
38:34 your desk in there you complained about the power adapter oh yeah I was using it
38:38 for something else I didn't realize that was like to take and go compare things
38:41 with yeah okay cool yeah go to town I was using that for uh the mouse right
38:47 g42 right to see how smooth it was and stuff you know what that monitor has uh
38:52 like a g-sync module in it and I know NVIDIA has the like the the layout for
38:59 how to make a harness to hook it up to the ASUS 32
39:02 4K if I can get one of those harnesses from them I am so doing a Frankenstein
39:07 Project and 4king GS syncing that monitor that would be really cool yeah
39:11 then I'll bring all the other monitors back to the office and I won't need an upgrade for years perfect do that so you
39:17 stop stealing every monitor we ever get yeah the r Swift home so fast godone
39:24 never saw it again I never actually saw it running
39:27 from CES when I first saw it I was like it's okay and then when I got it on the
39:33 desk actually using it I took the PA off
39:36 especially stuff like monitors it's hard to get a proper first impression when
39:40 you're at a show at a show is terrible because the lighting is whatever the lighting is and you've got like four
39:45 minutes of whatever demo they're running like it just is not the right it's not
39:49 the right context to have a proper experience often that demo is running
39:53 because it's like repeatable or easy to maintain instead of being the best thing
39:57 like because a boo babe can fix it if it's broken yeah no that's what I mean
40:00 like it's it's not they're not going to have catastrophes on the floor where they have to show you that you're
40:04 they're running a PC instead of an
40:07 Xbox that's what a lot of them are going to be tuned towards uh want to
40:12 rant uh oh man you know what why don't
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42:04 exciting you want to talk about what you're going to be doing at the show uh
42:08 the show I honestly I expect a lot of what the show is going to be is running
42:11 around to different motherboard manufacturers checking out something specific
42:18 um no more information hopefully that's
42:21 what's going to happen um we're going to be just like we've been doing for shows
42:24 for a while now that's probably really loud why is that so loud I don't know
42:28 sorry about that um just like we've been doing for shows for a while now when it's a gaming show we we will be
42:33 releasing a bulk of it as actually Hardware stuff a lot of the hardware
42:36 guys are going to these gaming shows because they want to show people that are gaming their Hardware kind of
42:40 totally makes sense I want to show people my Hardware I always show people my Hardware um
42:46 so so yeah we'll be checking out a lot of that kind of stuff we'll also be
42:49 checking out gaming stuff um I'm trying to get in contact with blizzard but it
42:53 doesn't really seem to be working so we probably won't have any Warlords or drain or stuff from Blizzard's watching
42:59 hey hello we're a thing than you um
43:03 we'll probably have an indie Mega Booth Roundup video that's been seeming to
43:07 work well lately instead of a whole bunch of individual indie games we'll just do one like top five things that I
43:12 saw well walking through the Indie Mega booth and I'll be down there for
43:16 Saturday Saturday so I'll be around on the show floor on Saturday so if you run
43:19 into me come say hi hopefully not when I'm in the middle of filming something
43:23 thank you hang out and so we wanted to give a big thanks to
43:27 hyperx for actually enabling us to be there so I'm just going to screen show
43:31 you guys for a second they they actually they've been asking us a lot lately to
43:35 kind of draw attention to their hyperx YouTube channel and I was like yeah okay
43:41 we can do that and you know because a lot of the time manufacturer YouTube
43:45 channels are really not that great but
43:48 they've actually got some pretty interesting stuff going on here right
43:51 now I don't know if you've actually checked it out I have but social blade
43:54 is my kind of ultimate uh haven't checked their social creeper thing and
43:59 check this out they've gained 20,000 subscribers in the last 30 days they
44:04 have 42,000 subscribers total they are growing Crazy Fast right now actually
44:09 yeah and they're putting out a lot of a lot of content that I think will be
44:13 really interesting to people like where are these uh they had some interviews
44:17 that are like a quarter million views like check this out uh where did it go
44:23 yeah here we go I'm a CutiePie 282,000 views and it's it's such a simple format
44:28 it's like it's 20 questions and they're like the simplest things like there's
44:32 questions about his hair like it's not it's kind of casual it's it's pretty
44:36 cool and I was like oh these guys are actually doing YouTube kind of right
44:41 yeah most manufacturers really don't get it it's like yeah we want to put all of
44:44 our ads on our YouTube and they have some ads on their YouTube channel too to
44:47 be very clear we even made a couple of them but I I'm not surprised though
44:52 because when we went to go check out their head offices for E3 I got that
44:56 vibe from their hyperx tour thing that we got to go through checking out like
45:00 their gaming room and stuff it was like okay yeah they're actually kind of
45:03 focused on making something awesome so guys um yeah so thanks to hyperx for
45:07 being our gold sponsor for PA Prime this year and guys check out their YouTube
45:11 channel if you want to have gaming
45:14 content and learn about new memory and USB drives and stuff like that all those
45:19 good things all right so time for uh I
45:22 kind of want to start like a rant segment for Linus Tech tips cuz there's
45:27 some stuff that I could just that I could just do and this isn't we kind of do this isn't quite that bad this is
45:32 more like a a square peg round hole type thing as opposed to something that's
45:36 just uniformly terrible we don't call it a ranch segment but like Beats by 50
45:41 that was pretty rany streets by 50 my bad um so yeah you guys probably
45:46 recognize my daily driver phone the HTC1
45:51 M8 whoa Windows Phone wow I didn't know
45:54 about that um so now there a there's an HTC1 M8 Windows phone edition it's a
46:01 Verizon exclusive right now although I saw a rumor that Sprint's going to be
46:04 picking it up as well which has only caused a little bit of trouble for me I
46:08 had to program my APN manually and then I had to contact HTC directly because
46:13 Verizon customer support wouldn't do it for me um in order to get internet
46:18 tethering enabled on the phone I'm like look I got my phone working everything's
46:22 cool everything's fine I just need you guys to because I'm not on your network
46:26 so I I don't see why you would care if I internet tether I need you guys to like
46:30 come out of the Stone Age and turn that crap on on my phone thanks dog and
46:34 they're like oh yeah we actually can't do that because um you know you're not a
46:39 Verizon subscriber I'm like well I can't be a Verizon subscriber I'm in Canada do
46:43 you have service up here no I didn't think so so can I give you the Sim
46:48 information for the Sim that came in it or the IMEI for the phone um so so sir
46:54 you know the the reason that you're having a bad experience with the device
46:57 is because you know you're getting these headaches because it's not a Verizon uh
47:02 Network device and it's or it is a Verizon network device and you're not in
47:06 the Verizon network look I don't care I'm not going to be a Verizon customer I
47:10 don't live there turn the feature on and
47:13 then I so HTC ended up being able to take that care of that for me but sorry
47:18 Verizon rant over uh dri W thank you for posting this in the Forum uh we have
47:22 some details about it obviously cuz I'm working on my review for it but it is
47:27 pretty much exactly the same Hardware as the 1 I made Android edition there are
47:31 some changes the radio is slightly different so it supports fewer
47:34 frequencies which because it's a Verizon exclusive device I guess that makes
47:38 sense maybe they were able to cost it down fraction of a couple of pennies or
47:41 whatever that would work out too in that way um and you know you fire it up and
47:47 it's it's it's the the Windows Phone experience do they have the same problem
47:51 with the glass on the camera I don't know I don't know if that's been
47:55 resolved um I just I know I know some
47:59 people would care about that so I'm not really sure yeah it's really hard to say when it's
48:04 brand new but I'll be using it for at least a couple weeks to get a really
48:08 good impression of what's going on with this phone because I I want to be fair
48:13 to it but I'm running into a lot of
48:16 issues and they're not related to the 1 M8 the 1 M8 is a fantastic piece of
48:21 Hardware this is a great device I love it the problem is that I really don't
48:26 feel like Windows Phone The Experience scales for an Enthusiast I feel like for
48:32 basic functionality text messages email
48:36 phone navigation Once you pull the crappy Verizon Navigator off and put on
48:41 a real one um which you can find for free in the in the store I I feel like
48:46 it's fine for all that but if you're actually trying to do anything on it
48:51 there's just how and it's it's just it's
48:55 little stuff like okay um there's no
48:58 Hangouts client like really I use Hangouts every day that
49:05 sucks it's like super crappy so you have
49:09 you're going to have to get ready for a lot of workflow changes that you're not
49:14 going to be accustomed to even if you've done the Android iOS switch before like
49:18 I actually switched to iOS recently I've been using my iPhone 5s for a couple
49:23 weeks now just because I'm getting ready for the iPhone 6 to drw
49:27 and I want to be somewhat familiar with the platform so I'm not just figuring
49:31 out iOS again when the time comes to review that device and going from
49:35 Android to iOS these days is pretty seamless dropping on to Windows phone
49:40 man there's nothing like the Instagram clients of beta like Gmail has no like
49:45 and we're talking Google services so obviously there's not a whole lot there
49:48 like but Gmail has no native Native
49:52 client so you can use the uh so you can use the buil-in one but then you're
49:56 going to have just that stuff that feels very Stone Age like notifications that
50:01 are sitting on your phone for emails that you already checked on a PC because
50:05 they don't go away because it doesn't work that way when you're not just using
50:08 Google's client um I actually I'm going to cover this in much more depth in the
50:13 actual video where actually throughout my time using it I'm going to be
50:17 creating a list of apps I looked for and found and apps I looked for and didn't
50:22 find and some of those apps I looked for and didn't find are going to be pretty
50:26 spectacular like one of the things that I hate about it is the keyboard and I
50:30 was like just you know curiosity um does cuz like look how much of the screen the
50:35 keyboard takes up whoa when it's when it's got predictive text on there it's
50:39 up to here what's with the stuff on the bottom I can't see the side uh that's
50:43 send attachment oh voice a lot of space
50:47 yeah it takes up a lot of space and you can make the navigation bar go away in the bottom but you use it so often
50:51 you're going to want it most of the time anyway so I wanted to change the
50:55 keyboard and I was like oh I wonder if there's swift key so I looked it up and
50:59 it turns out that the only things that come up for swift key are outright scams
51:03 one of them has seven onestar reviews
51:06 going back to about three weeks ago
51:09 saying this is a scam it's a $1 link to
51:13 the SwiftKey website oh yeah like just
51:16 bad like it's not even a terrible
51:20 keyboard like wallpaper that looks like a keyboard like they didn't even do
51:24 anything it's just a link and Microsoft hasn't removed this from the store and I
51:29 think that the same problem this Segways into our next topic I know but I'm not
51:32 going to let you do it just yet so I think my problem with the 1 M8 Windows
51:36 phone edition is effectively HTC has done their best here
51:42 their camera app is is as easy to use as the window or as the Android version
51:46 they've actually got blink feed as a live tile so you can still use blink
51:50 feed if you're into that which I've actually started using more lately oh it
51:54 still has double tap to wake so there you go like it's it's the 1 M8 it's just
51:59 on a platform that just doesn't feel Enthusiast friendly like at all you know
52:05 and the whole lifetile concept it's very beautiful and you know going like this
52:10 oh you can go look at your apps and do whatever the problem is that live tiles
52:14 change visually which if you look at you know someone like McDonald's how often
52:19 do they change their logo why do they not change that recognizability is good
52:24 when people are trying to find things so to me live tiles changing what they look
52:28 like is not necessarily a very positive thing and you might go okay well lus
52:32 just memorize where they all are to which I would say yeah that's fine too
52:37 except that unlike Android and iOS you
52:40 don't have discrete pages and you can't create
52:45 subfolders so you actually once you
52:48 start scrolling for remembering where everything is on the page goes out the
52:52 window you can't muscle memory you know scroll down you know 38 of a decimeter
53:00 and then you click on the this part it doesn't work that way so hey that's a
53:05 unit of measurement just no one uses it I know
53:09 but well I I wanted to say 38 of an inch but that's not enough to be an actual so
53:14 I changed it to decimeter mid sentence anyway because no one uses fractions of
53:19 metric measurements either so it was just a completely broken thing to say
53:23 anyway the point is that um it's once
53:26 you if you're going to install more apps than what fits on like one home screen
53:31 it just doesn't scale very nicely and and it's not intuitive to use so I um I
53:36 I I was really hoping that Windows phone would have matured a lot since I used it
53:42 a year ago on a on an HTC 8X I think it
53:45 did I think it matured into a giant scam machine okay so that's how you're going
53:49 to segue into our next topic okay I just
53:52 I'm trying to make sure that you have anything left to still make a video
53:56 about posted by JM 299 oh I'm I'm going to have lot I mean I'll say mostly that
54:00 stuff that's more trolling than anything troll
54:03 yourself all right talk about this this
54:06 is for Windows phone and like Windows 8
54:09 where there's the Microsoft store and this headline written by J Master here
54:14 is pretty sensationalist Microsoft
54:18 willingly allowing malicious apps in the Windows store to obtain a cut of the
54:21 profits that is some tinfoil hat stuff there the to obtain a cut of the profits
54:25 thing is maybe a little bit sensationalist but um willingly allowing
54:30 is not sensationalist yes that's actually a thing I know they have
54:33 allowed the apps to I mean okay okay okay and they have to be manually
54:36 approved you talk you talk so the store is the stores are crammed with fake
54:41 versions of popular paid apps like lonus was just talking about you can you can
54:45 look for something and it'll just give you a link to download it that's an extremely common situation and even the
54:51 descriptions on some of them will be like helps the user to know how to
54:54 download and use this thing but it's not how to use it or anything it's just a
54:58 link to the proper app where you can download it for free that's it and I
55:03 believe the iTunes one is $9 they provide you a $9 link ridiculous
55:09 that should never be manually approved by an employee that is insane um
55:13 Microsoft does claim that in their store everything is manually improve approved
55:17 by an employee so that whole willingly willingly knowing that they're having
55:21 scam apps has to be true or they're lying about that someone knows but I
55:25 don't think that the people creating the policy for the approval of apps is they
55:31 must know at this point like what if it's been in the news so much and you'd
55:36 think if you ever look at the store like I I believe even a even a search for VLC
55:40 comes up with a whole bunch of paid versions that are just links to download
55:44 which is like okay come on now and like that one that I was just talking about
55:47 $9 for a link to iTunes iTunes is extremely common they must have ran into
55:52 this at some point in time there has to be someone reporting it up the chain
55:57 being like hey and $9 link and there
56:00 really needs to be an after Thea review system for ones like the one I mentioned
56:04 where it had seven onear reviews going back several weeks anything that's got
56:09 like you know two or three onear reviews in a row that's got to put up some major
56:14 red flags I mean the app creator didn't
56:17 even bother to create a Spam account to give it a festar rating it has literally
56:24 nothing to get past filter of any sort
56:28 nothing no attempt made so there must just not be one where where he's coming
56:32 from with the whole trying to skim the profits thing which I I don't I don't
56:36 know how how necessarily real that is
56:39 what the um but they see they're giving
56:43 money out at this point so I don't know if it totally makes sense they're running a keep the cash promotion where
56:48 they paid developers $100 for each completed app so if you're trying to get
56:52 those $100 things if you put a link in
56:56 and upload it as an app you just made a 100 bucks so obviously a bunch of people
57:00 are going to want to do that and you can make up to $2,000 per developer if you
57:05 want pretty much free $2,000 just make a
57:08 bunch of apps that link to other apps and you're done that's kind of
57:12 fantastically horrible and you know what it it it aligns with their seeming
57:16 desperation to deliver search results when people search in the store like I
57:20 search for TW TT and instead of bringing
57:23 up things like carbon it brought up
57:27 official Twitter and then it brought up like Facebook and Instagram which I'm
57:32 like okay those are at least within the same category and then as you continue
57:35 to scroll down the list things get less and less related to the point where it's
57:40 just like you know it's not about delivering more results it's about
57:44 delivering the most relevant result and it really feels like they aren't there
57:47 yet and speaking of that in April 2014 they announced that they have over
57:50 400,000 apps combined between the Windows phone and Windows uh just normal
57:54 Windows store um but that includes all the scams so they have some amount of
57:58 incentive not to take them down because they can keep that in their number of
58:02 apps that they have and if they act all of these scam apps that would greatly
58:06 reduce their total amount of apps that they can claim that they have also
58:10 Microsoft takes a cut of every sale of every app sale so this is where people
58:14 are thinking that hat they want to keep them around but honestly looking at the
58:19 like tiny little miniature microscopic
58:22 droplets that has to be in their revenue stream yeah I don't see them taking that
58:27 giant risk for that that doesn't make a l I think they're a lot smarter than
58:30 that at some level so so I think something's going wrong I don't think
58:34 it's because of the money especially because they were giving out1 $100 per
58:38 app for people to just make them in general yeah I don't see this being a
58:41 money gaining opportunity if I was going to create a program like that I'd
58:45 probably have a bigger payout for like people to create one app cuz
58:52 How could an individual developer create 20 quality apps within a reasonable
58:55 period of time that's just stupid and like maybe have a bigger payout and be
58:59 like yeah you get the money the really big payout when you have a certain ratio
59:04 of stars or something like say you have to have three star minimum or something
59:08 like that it has to be useful but then like pay attention to the star ratings
59:12 and make sure that they're not just all scam which is very common lately yeah
59:17 all right so happy topic yeah so speaking of wanting people to like you
59:23 Disney is rumored to be working on an
59:26 unaltered release of the Star Wars Trilogy the original trilogy not the one
59:30 no one cares about on Blu-Ray now as
59:34 someone who has seen the Blu-ray enhanced
59:38 versions wow they look a lot better than the original releases man like they did
59:44 some serious work to clean that stuff up
59:47 and make it look like really good by the way once I was looking for it in a new
59:51 hope you can easily spot the Stormtroopers with gaffet tape on yeah
59:55 yeah that's fun yeah especially in the uh in the Blu-ray version um so I've
60:00 seen the Blu-ray version I've seen the original releases the problem is that I
60:05 cannot take a New Hope seriously if greo
60:08 shoots first and it seems like a stupid
60:11 Petty thing but I went back and watched the original release on like VHS
60:16 cassettes pretty recently it was actually kind of awesome um and the way
60:22 it's cut together the way the music flows the way everything
60:27 happens Han is a badass and shot the
60:31 dude because he's tired of his crap boom and like the way he the way he
60:37 tips the bartender like a couple bucks for leaving a dead body in the you're
60:41 not going to convince me that he's some kind of white freaking Knight at this
60:45 point come on he's clearly this doesn't even phase him at all blowing someone
60:50 away in a bar does not even register on his radar
60:56 so anyway I am super excited to see this I plan to buy it um if it happens and
61:03 you know what at this point time even if it even if it is a rumor and wasn't
61:06 being worked on they should scramble their ass and get this released because
61:10 they're getting all good publicity right now if Disney was looking to gain the
61:14 favor of the hardcore fans like you think about the hardcore Star Wars fans
61:18 how many times they've been crapped on in the last 20 years so many so many
61:24 times they're going to be going into Disney's first crack at this with a
61:30 negative vibe as opposed to going in excited you know ready to be blown away
61:35 they're going to be going in expecting to be disappointed and I think Disney's going to have to work that much harder
61:39 to impress them whereas if they do this ahead of time I think it's a very
61:44 different aura that walks into that
61:47 theater for the first screening so yep so they really really should do this
61:52 even if it is just a rumor all these rumors are coming from comicbook.com so
61:55 we don't even know how credible this is but uh the rumor is that the project is
62:00 taking longer than expected due to damage to the negatives but I I'd be
62:03 super stoked if this happened yeah all
62:06 right so speaking of things I'd be super stoked if they happened Google's
62:09 driverless cars can keep up with the
62:13 flow of traffic this this has been very
62:16 like posted by Victoria Secret a lot see exact this is what I'm talking about the
62:20 the titles for a lot of these things in my opinion have been pretty
62:24 sensationalist because to exceed the speed limit they're not designed to
62:28 purposefully just be like ha we're going too quickly but they have a threshold
62:32 where they're take that Coppa yeah they have a threshold where they are allowed
62:37 to go slightly above the speed limit I don't think it's that fast 10 miles or
62:41 about 16 km an hour which is that's that's pretty fast but that's what
62:45 they're allowed to do they're not programmed to do this but in a lot of areas it's perfectly reasonable yes
62:50 because they're keeping up with the flow of traffic because it has been proven
62:53 time and time again that not keeping up with the flow traffic can be very
62:57 dangerous yeah like proven not speculated not by like Reddit but proven
63:03 that it's dangerous to go too slow speculated by Reddit yeah no no no
63:06 proven by like actual science yeah so
63:10 they're they're not designed to just go out and exceed speed limits because
63:14 they're they're wanting to get there quickly um they're designed to keep up
63:17 with traffic and if that has to do with uh exceeding the speed limit by a fairly
63:22 reasonable amount then it's okay but they're not like keep up with traffic is
63:27 if traffic is going 200 mil hour because
63:31 yeah so another interesting thing along
63:34 the uh also related to Google's driverless cars from this week is that
63:38 the state of California is telling Google they don't want them on the road
63:42 unless they have a steering wheel and pedals so that the driver can take
63:47 immediate control if needed um and this
63:50 is this is going to be this is going to be a big debate for a while because part
63:54 of the safety of driverless cars is
63:57 going to be taking human error out of the
64:01 equation so for now Google is
64:04 retrofitting the ones that they've already made is my understanding uh but
64:09 the ones like the actual official Google car was not supposed to have a steering
64:15 wheel and pedals so this could uh yeah
64:18 this this debate could rage for a while in the UK they are looking to allow
64:22 Google's cars starting in 2015 so once
64:26 again someone else is more Progressive than the United States where the
64:29 Innovation is actually
64:34 happening yeah it's kind of funny when you look at it that way isn't it it is
64:38 funny um I mean what makes the United States a
64:42 Powerhouse research and Technology it's
64:46 like no we don't want it here I I I find
64:50 the the United States almost more than any other region though is very scared
64:53 of uh having things go out of people's
64:56 yeah well you know it's funny cuz I was about to say movies and TV shows
65:01 probably don't help but this actually reminds me of a fantastic I think it was
65:05 a two-part episode of Doctor Who where
65:08 some bad guy I don't remember exactly the context I think it's another time
65:13 lord or something or can't remember some bad aliens or something so the basically
65:17 the plot of every Doctor Who episode ever uh they were they were using a car
65:22 manufacturer to that was it was like better emissions or something was like a
65:26 thing that you could install in your car and then they just had them like drive
65:29 people into lakes and stuff so it's not like that kind of content doesn't exist
65:34 in the UK it's just you have to also have your feet on the ground in reality
65:39 and realize that you don't live in that world and look at something that has
65:43 actually been very well tested at this point I mean what is it 700,000 miles of
65:48 logged travel on these cars and the only accidents have been like caused by
65:52 another driver yeah not them um
65:56 I don't know what was I going to say uh right iRobot there's the manual takeover
66:01 thing but then it doesn't really help yeah it's like okay yeah I don't know
66:06 what people are scared of obviously is like technical failure but then and
66:10 people don't like giving up control yeah I mean if someone told me if Google told
66:14 me look actually this is a perfect example if Google told me hey we've come
66:19 up with an automated way to look at your
66:22 video so you just upload it and then we'll create the perfect title thumbnail
66:27 and description for you i' be like no
66:30 you high and that we're not even talking about my life we're just talking about
66:34 my job at that point to be honest though if it worked after a long time I would
66:37 eventually let it just do it I would just want my own testing done on it that's all right to be completely honest
66:43 and then what you could do is like just let it go and then if something's wrong
66:46 just go edit it later it's not as consequential as driverless cars but I
66:50 don't know and that that that brings in the same debate where if if you crash at
66:54 least it was your fault fault yeah if the AI crashes it wasn't your fault even
67:00 if the odds of you crashing were much higher
67:04 yeah I I'm not I'm just saying this that's that's an argument I've I've
67:08 probably logged less than 700,000 miles
67:12 of driving in my life let me just think oh yeah definitely less probably about a
67:17 half to 2third of that but I have been
67:22 in at least two or three at fall accidents in that time so on the other
67:28 hand in the last 5 or six years I haven't been in
67:32 any so you know do you look at this and
67:35 kind of go oh okay well you know for new drivers but then they'll never get any
67:39 experience and we're going to be talking about you know previous generation
67:44 people who are not used to this new fangle technology would you trust your
67:48 kids to it like that's that's something like would I trust myself to drive
67:51 around in a self-driving car actually probably I would probably ride around
67:55 one but if I were to buy a self-driving car for my family like one of the one of
68:00 the sort of you know Utopia amazing future types things that I imagine is
68:06 that every household will only need one vehicle because it can just go where
68:10 it's needed it'll go pick up the kids and take them to karate and then when
68:14 it's done with that it'll go pick up you know me and take me there to meet them
68:18 and watch them and then it'll go pick up my wife when she's done work and take
68:21 her to come and then we'll all go together home like that's amazing that's
68:24 so cool but would I really just let a
68:29 car go by itself to pick up my son when he's done you know the day at
68:33 kindergarten I don't know how I feel about that what if it gets to the point
68:36 where there's the the car should obviously actually have cameras all over
68:40 the place and you can connect to at any point in time so you can see it drive up
68:43 to the building that your son's at you can see your son get into the car you may I'm old for this stuff maybe maybe
68:49 virtual presence devices are weird me out a
68:53 little I don't know man what if it gets to the point where virtual pres iPad
68:59 Dad yeah yeah yeah but seriously what if it gets to the point where you've seen
69:03 that thing where you can you can attend a a conference or convention through
69:06 that wheel iPad right what if that becomes way more intense what if you're
69:10 controlling an Android what if you could literally carry your sign out of the car
69:14 but it's not your body I'm giving him a robot hug and I'm getting an iPad kiss I
69:20 meant like I meant more like if the car
69:23 crashes if the car crashes oh man I don't even know the car crashes and
69:27 there's this like metal like heavyduty
69:31 emergency Droid sitting in the car and you can just be like take over pick up
69:36 carry out call 911 on its built-in Android software I don't know
69:42 man I was even I wasn't even thinking
69:45 about not being there in the invent of an emergency I was just thinking about
69:48 how impersonal the whole thing is
69:51 right that I didn't think about but now I'm thinking about emergency
69:57 all right so in in not controversial and
70:00 definitely excellent vehicle news Tesla increases their warranty Drive Unit
70:06 warranty or their the the Drive Unit
70:09 warranty on the model S to eight years
70:12 and the battery pack there we go yeah wow eight years infinite miles you can
70:18 drive as much as you want Elon Musk has said it will moderately it will have a
70:22 mod moderate negative effect on Tesla's earnings in the short shortterm but it's
70:26 the right thing for Tesla vehicle owners in the early stage of their company and
70:29 he's confident that they'll work it out well in the long term because Elon Musk
70:32 is a massive badass that's pretty much it posted by
70:37 Sam cool 55 on the Forum by the way thank you it's going retroactively to
70:40 people that already own Model S's so if you bought a Model S early on you're
70:44 getting this warranty despite not having it when you originally bought it I mean
70:47 eight years like if you think about that my car is a 2003 and three years ago you
70:53 could probably make the argument that it had kind of served its purpose to the
70:57 original owner and if that original owner wasn't a complete cheap skate they
71:01 were probably going to resell it in fact I have only owned that car for about
71:06 eight years because I bought it as an end of lease deal from someone who
71:09 leased it for a few years and this this can be transferred to infinite amount of
71:13 owners either wow so infinite miles infinite owners eight years so assuming
71:18 that my car has reached the point after the time that I've owned it that I might
71:22 have to do some maintenance like a battery swap on it is not unfair and not
71:28 unreasonable and this is the first time I've really seen a car manufacturer step
71:32 up and instead of warrany what is safe
71:36 warrany what is reasonable for a consumer to expect in terms of a vehicle
71:40 lifetime because by eight years it's dinged up it's scratched it's probably
71:44 gotten its windshield broken a couple times from random debris on the road
71:48 like there's stuff that can reasonably be wrong with it that's nobody's fault
71:53 given how much detail and quality they put into to their paint jobs which is
71:57 insane they have someone White Glove hand over the entire surface of the car
72:01 just to make sure it's perfect every single one like I would hate to get that
72:05 thing scratched but it's probably going to be scratched in the 8ye LIF happen so
72:09 this means you get uh infinite usage of all of Tesla's supercharging stations
72:13 which they're constantly putting up more for the for the lifetime of the product
72:17 not eight years um and you get an 8year
72:20 warranty on your drive unit and Battery which is like if you look into how
72:25 they're made pretty much everything that's cool that's so Beast
72:31 awesome I'm excited for their um like
72:35 more consumer friendly cheaper car that
72:38 they're going to come up with who knows if it's going to have all this kind of stuff but knowing them it'll be pretty
72:42 awesome so speaking of how difficult it is for me to switch to Windows phone
72:47 this was this was originally posted on the form by Builder and there's an
72:51 article here that I think actually hits on a number
72:57 of truths and I think the the basic point of or like okay the the headline
73:02 that Builder put in is choose Firefox now or later you won't get a choice and
73:08 the article really looks at Google's
73:13 dominance in terms of how many people
73:17 that they have won over to their ecosystem and how much power that gives
73:21 them over you not being able to switch to something else like I can switch to
73:26 iOS because iOS was so dominant and
73:29 Google has supported it up until now and
73:33 doesn't look like they're going to stop supporting it anytime soon but a new
73:37 platform someone who's trying to break in like Microsoft who's getting no
73:43 support from Google the fact that I am so deeply rooted in Google's ecosystem
73:49 whether it's drive or hangouts or Gmail I use Gmail for my personal and for my
73:53 business email I see the point if you don't stop using
73:59 Google services you may never be able to
74:02 stop and you know if they become your
74:05 service provider for everything that you use online and your ISP at some
74:11 terrifying point in the future basically we won't even need to worry
74:16 about the NSA because Google will have all the
74:19 information we were ever worried about the NSA having and Google might have
74:24 been in the past you know up until now even you know fairly consumer oriented
74:30 but that doesn't mean that their leadership's going to exist forever that
74:34 doesn't mean that as a company their culture can't change very dramatically I
74:38 mean it already has we've seen it happen it already has changed very dramatically
74:41 and these are very young companies that we're entrusting a lot of information to
74:45 it's they're not they're not old companies like you know an nendo where
74:50 we can look back a hundred years at what their culture is and how they've evolved
74:54 over time we're looking at companies that have gone from zero to enormous in
74:58 a span of you know five or 10 or 20 or
75:02 even two years
75:05 sometimes kind of insane that's how fast they change so be prepared for them to
75:10 change that fast so I don't know I just I thought it was a really interesting it
75:13 was really interesting food for thought and the original article was from
75:17 robert. callahan. org I've already been
75:20 trying I've been looking into switching to Photon mail for a while but Photon
75:23 mail is taking a while to really become a thing right so waiting for that and
75:29 I've been looking into changing to a lot of things but the problem is whenever Google steps into a market everyone else
75:35 is basically forcibly stepped out yep
75:38 because everyone moves to that so there's no real like great calendar app
75:42 anymore yep because everyone just uses Google Calendar it's hard Google
75:47 Calendar is not even that great no it's not actually it's kind of annoying I'd
75:50 love to have a better calendar so would I I mean here's here's like the now
75:53 someone's going to message us with a better calendar which is fantastic please do that um like here's the
75:58 simplest thing ever here I'm just going to pull up a blank calendar here on my
76:01 screen so like here's an example what if
76:05 I wanted to take this event and like drag it past here you have to put it on
76:10 that bottom row and then go down that's ridiculous like that's the stupidest
76:15 thing ever how did they not how did nobody catch this
76:18 ever
76:21 anyway I don't know it just kind of horrible so it's kind kind of scary I've
76:25 been saying this for quite a while actually but we don't have a better
76:28 option we're just grousing about it and the the problem right now is I I've
76:33 brought this up in a few different way shows there's there's such
76:37 Mass Fight For Speed in browsers right now where they're just iterating
76:41 releases incredibly fast if you look way back Firefox didn't release releases all
76:46 that quickly until kind of Google Chrome
76:49 came in and then they both started fighting and they're both releasing as fast they possibly can to try and stay
76:53 on top of I like that ionic meteor says Outlook Master race and I'm 50 years
77:01 old yeah um yeah they've been fighting for these
77:05 iterative releases which are insane and they just break everything on my
77:10 personal computer flash hasn't been working in Firefox for months my
77:14 personal computer at home I can't use um like most social media websites on
77:19 Firefox and then I can't view YouTube
77:23 videos in Chrome
77:27 what so I have to use two different browsers so I can actually get
77:30 functionality across all of them what the hell since when did this happen just
77:35 give up it's freaking fast enough fix everything God one of
77:40 you Firefox I wish Firefox would just like step back and be like okay you can
77:44 be one billionth of a second faster than us who gives a crap everything's going
77:49 to work on our browser that would be great because waterfox is doing it right
77:53 now I'm rooting I'm rooting for Internet Explorer the Rebrand yeah I'm holding
77:57 out for that maybe they'll get it together I doubt it though I doubt it
78:01 but maybe if I'm going to blindly if I'm
78:04 going to have Blind Faith in something I guess that'll be it right now just just
78:08 throw to the third team that no one knows about yeah I don't
78:14 know um all right ASUS is teasing a new
78:17 smartwatch posted by dri W luk 's Opera
78:20 no it's not better yeah I've tried Opera
78:24 is so impossible but of the issue with Opera Google
78:28 services it like YouTube is just
78:32 broken like and I'm not talking viewing YouTube videos I mean the content
78:36 creator tools yeah cannot use yeah all
78:39 right I have Opa on my computer I do use it so basically time has been
78:43 transformed and we have changed is a quote that they're using and they are
78:48 going to apparently give us some more details on September the 3D
78:52 hooray so there we go
78:57 apparently it'll be priced somewhere between $1 and $150 I guess that's all we really have
79:01 to say about that why don't we blast our way through some more of these like quickfire topics all right you just pick
79:05 ones that are interesting to you and I'll pick ones that are interesting to Facebook is offering bounties for bugs
79:10 found an Oculus Rift this is not the first time we've seen this on like a
79:13 hardware model but it's interesting how Oculus Rift which is a company that will
79:17 be releasing and Publishing games and their and their Rift device and possibly
79:21 other things in the future is offering a bounty
79:25 um for finding bugs with a minimum reward of
79:29 $500 when we see Early Access being such
79:32 a big pathetic useless piece of crap and
79:35 then we see companies like Oculus throwing bounties at people I just found
79:39 that to be a weird contrast yay Facebook accusation yay actually pretty much all
79:45 right I've got I've got one here there's an app uh called Shoot what's it called
79:49 again called ignore no more oh yeah that
79:53 allows a parent or guardian or someone else to stop their kids from ignoring
79:59 their calls so you know you want to get your kids some caller ID you kind of go
80:03 yeah sure you can know when I'm calling but if you don't pick up my calls then I
80:08 will remotely lock your phone so you can't use it so if you're not going to
80:11 talk to me then you're not going to talk to anyone um and we actually had a lot
80:16 of people on the lineus tech tips Forum get really upset about this and kind of
80:19 go invasion of privacy this that or the other no it's not if part of the deal is
80:24 is look Junior who's 13 years old or 12
80:28 years old and probably you know in my generation would have been considered
80:32 too young to have their own phone like look Junior you want a phone sure that's
80:37 fine but I expect it part of the part of
80:41 the verbal contract here is you have a phone so we can get in touch with each
80:46 other yeah if you are ignoring that part of the verbal contract then you don't
80:50 deserve to use your phone right now that's it so what they have to do is
80:54 they have to call their parents back to get an unlock
80:57 code I think one of my parents might call me
81:01 out on this but as far as I can remember I paid for my cell phone for the entire
81:05 duration of having a cell phone okay my parents paid for mine because the deal
81:10 was that I got a car and a cell phone and I have four siblings so the deal was
81:16 I had to be available to drive people oh that makes sense and I had to be
81:20 accessible yeah and I got a car and a phone out of it so I was like yeah deal
81:23 I was a nerd and all my friends over came over to my house cuz we had all the
81:26 coolest like right stuff to play with in terms of like video games or whatever so
81:32 I didn't really need one yeah I lived in the middle of nowhere like I it was it
81:36 was a 10-minute drive to the closest convenience store like we had horses and
81:40 stuff so for for me it made a lot of sense because my parents actually
81:44 probably made out like bandits in the amount of time that they saved you know
81:50 me driving to town which is 20 minutes there and 20 minutes back every time
81:53 someone else needed to miss the school bus or whatever else then that's worth
81:57 it for you because you have a car and a phone which because I have a car and phone dog actually the only Reon I
82:02 didn't even want a phone the only reason why I got one was cuz the girlfriend I
82:05 had at the time was like dude what the hell get a phone I know you don't want a
82:09 phone because whenever you lose or break your phone it's impossible to get in
82:12 touch with you for like two weeks while you drag ass about replacing
82:17 it oh man anyway I mean they're so
82:21 expensive I mean I think that people were upset about about this because they
82:25 saw it as something that like parents would stealthily install on their kids
82:28 phones but that's not it at all because it tells the kid yo dog your phone's
82:34 locked call your mom to un lock K you like have to know that it's on your phone this is part of the deal
82:39 yeah okay so next one jump to the user modifies their Windows load screen thing
82:43 sure cuz that's awesome really you're taking that one I wanted to do that one
82:47 well okay you no no you can have it hitchhiking robot makes its way across Canada oh yeah that's pretty cool too
82:51 boom uh I'll search for hitch there we
82:55 go there you go the hitchbot so apparently by Cy Warrior Cordy Warrior
82:59 wanted to be a huge jerk and name the
83:03 topic for this robot tricks gullible Canadians yeah I didn't even load up his
83:08 post because he's a huge butt um but
83:13 anyways almost everyone that took this robot along with them knew it was coming
83:17 before they even got it and not like a nice huge butt like booty we're talking
83:22 like sagging and like hasn't been cleaned dived yeah with
83:28 like you know gross yeah the kind the
83:32 kind of butt hair anyway sorry carry on um yeah so almost everyone that picked
83:37 it up knew it was coming beforehand because it' been blasted in the news um
83:41 and the idea was it came all the way from Halifax Nova Scotia to uh Victoria
83:45 BC by hitchhiking so that's the little Hitch King robot and someone has to pick
83:50 it up and then take it along with them
83:54 and it made it all the way which is kind of amazing especially with reading
83:57 through the comments of our super high class totally up upstart citizens on our
84:02 forum who basically all said that they would just steal it and take it home um
84:07 but yeah so there's a hitchhiking robot someone finds it this is obviously
84:11 obviously a promotional video y oh look
84:16 I pick it up and I put it in my
84:21 car and apparently it could like talk to you on some very basic level and stuff
84:25 and it could tweet out and it could do some other stuff too that's cool so all
84:30 it got was like scratched it got scratched and it's it's uh LCD
84:34 protective thing got had like a small crack in it and stuff but it made it all
84:38 the way which is actually kind of fantastic again especially considering
84:41 the massively amazing citizens of the LT forum who all said they would steal it
84:46 uh so this is cool I I love this video this is awesome yeah this is like super
84:52 super badass
85:07 oh there was no sound I heard it did you
85:12 yeah no I mean uh I don't think on the stream there is sound oh it's not going
85:16 through the
85:20 cable there we go so it actually has the
85:24 uh it has the intro music as well and he has guides on there on how to do it if
85:28 you want to figure it out and uh what was I going to say he said apparently
85:32 his fans aren't actually that loud because a lot of people gred him on that it's just cuz he had to crank the volume
85:36 a lot so you could probably hear it so that is so cool I think it's actually
85:40 pretty sick all right you got maybe one more I've got one more that I want to do
85:44 um the the Minecraft hard drive thing is that what you're doing uh no I wasn't
85:49 even going to do that we have so much stuff this week I told you right no I
85:53 wasn't even going to do that one Okay Google's planning to introduce accounts
85:56 for children under 13 posted by by Victorious secret it's going to allow
86:00 parents to dictate some of the terms of how that Google account will work I think this is really important because
86:05 as it is kids under 13 are using Google accounts and they're just not being
86:09 regulated correctly okay not being regulated at all which is kind of
86:12 redonkulous in Minecraft someone made a I think single kilobyte hard drive y one
86:18 kilobyte which is actually kind of awesome it's interesting to see this
86:22 kind of stuff I've seen in my opinion slightly more interesting things um on
86:27 the incredibly ridiculous side of things but he's got to the incredibly
86:31 ridiculous side of things at all which is super cool so it's pretty cool to
86:36 show and he shows like miniature versions of it so you can actually
86:39 understand how the whole thing works which is awesome because a lot of these really big projects don't have that so
86:44 he basically shows you the fundamentals of what you need to know so that you can
86:48 build your own which is again super awesome yeah it can store one kilobyte
86:52 of information yep very cool pretty cool I like um my next thing that I wanted to
86:58 hit was China the no actually I wanted
87:01 to do EA is not sending reviewers copies
87:05 of Sims 4 so this was posted by Mind
87:08 Tricks On The Forum and uh the original Source here that we have is kit guru.net
87:14 that is uh and okay so they're not sending out
87:19 review copies also no if I remember correctly toddlers no toddler stage no
87:24 pools no pools um it looks like I mean
87:28 we have this conversation every time there's a new Sims where it's like yeah
87:33 they downgraded a bunch of crap because all those expansions that you went and
87:36 bought you're going to have to Reby them because the base game doesn't include
87:40 the expansions of the previous games how can it not include pools or like
87:45 developmental phases of the Sims like
87:48 they're right in the title of the game yeah like those are two pretty
87:52 fundamental things guys what are you doing oh my
87:56 God yeah ultimately it's more complexity
88:00 in terms of what texts there and what isn't there oh yeah and what we have to
88:04 build to support this how do we cut down into the terrain how do we get Sims
88:08 going through portals across different levels of pools there's so much more
88:11 going on in the background that you don't end up seeing just to have a SIM go swimming but it's like well you did
88:17 it before and like and it's been done since like a really long time ago like
88:23 come on it's not that hard we're losing some of the open world aspects so
88:27 there's going to be actually loading as you go between zones
88:32 um oh God yeah I don't know how they
88:36 cons like it must be a really hard job to figure out how to make your product
88:39 consistently worse no it can't be that hard it's got
88:44 to be hard because how do you how do you pick pools buildings can now have a
88:47 maximum of only two levels
88:52 like so I don't know on the one hand I
88:56 think one super I don't think this is what they had in mind but I think one
88:59 super cool positive effect of them not giving reviewers early copies of Sims 4
89:05 is that that really opens up the door for the average consumer to create a
89:11 review that can actually generate a fair bit of traffic because we know that when
89:15 we release a video about a piece of hardware and we're 2 months late it'll
89:19 get x amount of exposure even at our level even with all the subscribers we
89:23 have and all that the tweets that we can send out and all that stuff and if we
89:27 release it at release date when everyone else hits it we'll get x times something
89:33 and if we release it early then we'll get x times something much bigger that's
89:38 how it works and that's why there are embargos and ndas and release dates so
89:43 that no one gets an advantage but by no one they mean no one who's a
89:47 wellestablished media Outlet whereas having just an on shelf date where
89:53 everyone goes to the store and buys a copy of the game I think lets Grassroots
89:57 reviewers have an opportunity to be like the one to break the story and
90:01 especially in gaming like we're pretty big we can't get interviews with
90:07 anyone because we're not established in gaming y it's impossible us for us to
90:13 properly get proper interviews with any big triaa
90:17 developers we can't get interviews with blizzard we can't get interviews with
90:21 Ubie we can't get interviews with 2K we can't get interviews with I mean on the
90:24 hardware side someone like Oculus you
90:28 interviewed Palmer like on the hardware side we're good we actually have that
90:32 street cred but and and I mean so and we even have the street cred for gaming
90:38 Hardware like it's not that tenuous a link yeah whereas if you are completely
90:43 a nobody walking around on the show floor at PA you don't stand a chance
90:47 whereas if everyone kind of stopped giving out pre-release copies and with
90:52 to I don't know I think it could be it
90:55 could be interesting to to interject here for a second the Palmer interview
90:59 we only got because I ambushed him in the booth that wasn't preset we still
91:03 don't have a proper media contact there that will actually answer anything and
91:08 in the Palmer interview he said that he did really in fact like Linux because he
91:12 thought we were Linux Tech tips that that was the cut that didn't
91:17 end up getting in because there was no audio recording cuz Brandon
91:21 rushed so maybe not is cool but they're
91:25 like they're more actually a gaming company yes and they are everyone
91:30 everyone ever wants to interview them right so if you contact their press
91:33 email there's pretty much no chance you're going to get a reply right it's
91:37 basically a Dumping Ground I know that for a fact you have to have one of their
91:40 individual emails and then I'll publicly broadcast so like we
91:45 yeah yeah I have it on good faith that he actually liked that interview but we
91:50 still have no way to properly contact him because he told us as he was leaving
91:53 that we should talk to his press guy we went to go talk to his press guy and he
91:58 was like yeah I know message the media contact we're like yeah that's not going
92:02 to work is it he was like I'm like okay whatever fine all
92:09 right well I guess we suck and we're not important so here we
92:13 go we're important to some people yeah we're important to someone I just wish
92:18 you guys actually I feel pretty important right now we have over 6,100
92:22 people watching right now you guys are amazing I know right tested always gets
92:27 the cool Oculus interviews I'm so
92:31 jelly so is that pretty much it do we have anything else we could do that
92:35 horrible stupid thing that the Chinese Theaters are testing yeah let's end with
92:39 that yeah let's end with that well this is ridiculous hilarious I mean maybe
92:43 maybe something is getting Lost in Translation here but like China you guys
92:49 you guys serious bro so check this out
92:52 Cinemas in major cities in China have started testing the bullet screen which
92:57 allows the audience to text comments
93:01 about the film that will be shown on screen they are filtered and people have
93:06 to pay to submit them I think it's like 10 cents or something like thaty of 10
93:10 cents equivalent of 10 cents sensitive or forbidden words like swearing or
93:16 democracy um are probably are probably
93:19 going to get filtered there but
93:22 um yeah and it has to be approved to be
93:25 a bullet screen film by the writer and their contract with the producer so I
93:30 can't think of any thing that anyone
93:33 sitting in a theater with me could contribute to my viewing experience by
93:37 putting it in front of my face while I'm trying to watch a movie that is
93:43 ridiculous okay I can see having something like chat with
93:49 other people in the theater like like like a twitch chat style thing that's
93:54 what I thought it was when I first heard about this on your seat or like on on
93:57 like okay okay so say for example they have a Wi-Fi hot spot inside each
94:01 theater so people can tune in on their phones and chat with each other you know
94:05 some people get really bothered by the glowing screen in the dark theater thing
94:09 I personally give exactly zero craps about that I'm not going to turn my
94:12 phone on because other people find it rude but if if that was the route you
94:16 wanted to go with this that's a lot less intrusive than putting someone's
94:19 freaking text message on the screen while I'm trying
94:24 to watch the movie so if you like logged in if there was an app or something and
94:28 it was like let's discuss the movie while we're watching that way it's very optional people don't have to look at it
94:34 that's this is ridiculous this is just stupid this is the worst possible
94:37 implementation I can think of I had like a semi emergency Thing Once where I
94:42 needed to be in texting contact with someone and I was in a movie theater um
94:47 so like you'd think just leave but it was very intermittent messages and it
94:52 wasn't like I was there was no point where I knew if I was going to get another one that I need to reply to and
94:56 stuff hold on people are like but twitch chat is [ __ ] I'm like this is
95:00 exactly why it shouldn't be across the front of our video right now yeah so if
95:03 someone wants to talk it they should be a go but it should be optional exactly
95:08 what I did was I put my sweater on backwards and put the hood up and then
95:11 use my phone under it so there was no light emission at all nice I was like
95:15 problem solved yeah I guess that's about it we
95:20 can after show to talk about anything else if we want to uh yeah I promised to
95:24 do a garage sale this week but I don't feel like it I've barely slept I have a
95:31 newborn you know what maybe what I'll do is I should start just like listing them
95:36 at night and we can like just say hey
95:41 there's garage sale items and then like
95:44 hey there's a price drop on like your Afterparty stream or something like that
95:49 sure or something I don't know or like maybe what we could do is we could do
95:52 like a really s after the maybe I'll prep this next
95:57 week and I'll just be like here's all the items that are going to be available
96:00 tonight and then like set them all live yeah stay tuned or something like that
96:06 all right good night everyone thank you for
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96:26 shoes look so great today oh my God your dress is fantastic thank
96:33 you a dang
96:37 it okay they can still hear you
96:58 oh yeah speaking of derp there was one
97:03 other big news thing this week it's like Reddit and a bunch of other awesome hold
97:10 on let me find it where's derp imer twitch farc and stack exchange research
97:15 partnership I think Reddit was also involved at least I thought so the point
97:19 is it's called derp and it stands for digital ecology research partnership
97:24 can't believe they called it derp Reddit IM TW oh yeah I said Reddit see this is
97:28 why I can't do an Afterparty or a garage sale right now clearly not capable