Vega Performance CONFIRMED.. in rumors - WAN Show August 4, 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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9,029 words · ~45 min read
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what so we left and we came back and we're still so early it's still Thursday
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w w oh my God we're a whole day early
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yeah it's amazing and we have we have water that's cool right this this is the
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earliest the W show has ever been yeah
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if we were super popular YouTubers I would just smash this on the ground and
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then get tons of more views it's not a thing now that's that's a thing yeah
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what why but we are just very not super
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we're just mostly popular the whole Princess Bride thing mostly popular and
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ridiculously on time dead or mostly dead
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we're just mostly we're mostly Dead memes um so we are taking the longest
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long weekend of all lus Media Group time
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minus me except you we're taking Friday and Monday off so we deci deed to stream
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on Thursday so that everyone except Luke
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who works at a different company now good for him yeah except in this case
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never never time off where it's bad for him yeah and you you're working uh
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you're still working the Friday right
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y Monday off though Monday's a stat isn't it not everywhere oh
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right national holidays brilliant half
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of my full-time force is not in Canada right so there you go what national
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holiday is it I don't know it's something I don't know it's a stat
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though is it isn't it is it even have I been fooled by all the other staff I'm
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pretty sure it's a stat Canada stat we're horrible
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Canadians uh good I'm pretty sure it
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isn't good Friday hold on there are 16 more
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rows oh God Valentine's Day how is Valentine's Day at St Civic holiday what
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is that oh it's BC day ah BC day and then they
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all have like their own so that's why we don't know or probably doesn't get the
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day off bam oh hey I didn't even realize
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that yeah so yeah we're just literally all working it's not even National there
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you go so I can't take the day off because no one else is and that's stupid
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well it's it's rough but I don't have to like come to work so I can sit in like
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my boxers at home and just like work on full plane so it's kind of like that's
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nice yeah so it's like it's uh it's like casual day yeah yeah except you can
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actually just have your junk hanging out oh yeah cool so it's like very casual
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day okay so here's something that I want
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to know yeah and we'll get into okay no hold on let's introduce no no we'll get
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into the topics a little because this is very important okay all right okay now
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we all know PC culture right okay right
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everything's politically correct now there's no you can't see I wasn't actually sure if you're talking about
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personal computer or politically correct of course I'm not going to ask obvious
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questions okay okay and you can't
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discriminate based on anything do I have something on my head but what if the
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person's a nudest but okay so if you had
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have dress code though if you had a c but but hold on but hold on this is what
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I want to know this is what I okay look look if you had a casual Friday okay and
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you did not have a company dress code which we don't
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and somebody showed up naked and there
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was no policy in place is it discriminatory it's still technically a
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government sanction though is it well yeah because it's indecency oh it is
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yeah there's a law for that indecency yeah ah and then there's the flippy back
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and forthy law thing where like uh
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certain like in in most areas I think
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women can't have their tops complet complely off because you can't show your nipples but then in some places you're
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alive like on Twitch yes but then I
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believe in Vancouver you can't because of what's
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her face Linda whatever her name was there was some like nudest protester who
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was always all over the place top and then they were just like whatever we don't care and then I think in New York
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it's the same thing I think I'm not really sure and there's other areas
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where it's okay okay okay okay so like I think you'd be able to like just have
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bottoms on in most places got it
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it I don't know fascinating I don't actually so we've actually got a lot of
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great topics for you today T of them competition is great for the industry
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NVIDIA claims 3x performance with a new
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driver update for the Titan XP I wonder what prompted that driver update just to
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be clear because I really hate when these things are vague because it drives
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me freaking insane it's 3x performance in specific applications not games AMD
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clarifies why Threadripper uses four d
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on the chip what else we got GTX 1070
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killer it's a killer RX Vega 56 bench marks leaked
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again like everything else from every other company cuz everything gets leaked
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CU that's that's advertising right now it leaked it leaked all over the
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place oh my god did you do that on
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purpose it's really hot so I wouldn't be surprised I actually am feeling pretty
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good right now with the ice water down the front of the shirt there you go RX
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Vega prices and bundles have been confirmed leaked confirmed leaked
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whatever leaked firmed welcome to the news firmly
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leaked and it's intro
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time it's going to cause some firm leakage on my
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side I wish I wasn't drinking I wish you weren't drinking at
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work too but what can I do about it casual FR Thursday casual Thursday yeah
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no I don't drink oh you drink water yes yes go
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Master SP B Savage leaking
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jerky a no that's not what it is no oh
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boy you know what this is going to be a fun show because it has show it was a
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short week yes but it was already a hell
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of a week I shot my Fri cinemagraph this
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week oh those are cool what what were you doing okay what was going on
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hopefully none of this is embargoed or anything but uh MSI actually sent a a
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photo crew out here from like I don't
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know the the the kind of director the art director was from Sweden and she was
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hilarious she was like the most stereotypically Swedish woman I've ever
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met with like the hair in the like Curly thing and the flower and freaking
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everything she was delightful um um and
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you know what she came with complete instructions and didn't fall apart in
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two weeks go figure go figure anyway um so
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so she had me they actually used a lot of our equipment which was cool made me
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feel very professional that like this we had these things available yeah this
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baller photo crew that travels around the world you know doing professional
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shoots and stuff was like oh yeah that's pretty good equipment maybe we'll use
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that they even used our green screen which was pretty cool so they had me set up in front of the green screen and they
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had me do like these like these little like actions like I was supposed to be
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like like looking off to the side and like cuz the rest of the frame will be
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still and if you're not familiar with what a cinemagraph is it's a really cool
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on I can try to pick them up while you talk yeah if you want to grab a couple is your screen sharing working yes it is
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oh fantastic so most of the frame is still but then selectively there's a
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little bit of motion so it's actually an MSI here I'll flip over to so there you
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go so she's still the wall still but the but the bubbles blow which is which is
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pretty cool uh there's another really cool one um if you go down uh this one's
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really good this one's really good yeah so the mug steams but
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everything else is everything else is completely still and it's not like like
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nothing in here would naturally move but it's it's not like there's mostly no
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movement there's actually none except for the steam yeah so what's supposed to
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go on in this one is I'm supposed to have the um MSI infinite a gaming PC
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like hovering under my hand like some wizard wizard stuff and then I'm
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supposed to like look at it and then like slightly glance to the camera but
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everything about me will be maybe still or maybe they'll put a little bit of our
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movement to like be manipulating this like spinning PC and uh yeah I'm I don't
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know it was like a an hour of uh it was
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an hour of shooting with just me and then they had like another 2 hours with
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the system and with they're actually going to do it in our Workshop set so
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I'm not going to be on in like some weird location or something so here's a
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uh here's another example it's loading
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loading wow uh this is not a great way to go
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Twitter way to go Twitter but this is a razor cinemagraph yeah so the idea the
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guy doesn't move but like the colors change oh um whoops for on me except it
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just it it keeps like loading and freezing because yeah I don't know
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either Twitter or our Wi-Fi so it's like that but better yeah yeah pretty much
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sweet um but they're cool so that was fun what were you up to this week this
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week wow wow um I hired someone wow I
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thought I got and then like didn't really get but maybe still he's going to
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message me message me later a domain thing
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right yeah have you heard from him about it not working I heard from him he said he's going to check his email but he
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hasn't done it yet so we'll see uh
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uh what did I do I was very busy but I'm trying to remember everything that I
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did figured out some weird stuff with some tax things figured out that maybe
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we have to go to America um balancing
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the pros and cons of just straight up moving to Quebec um there's been a lot of it's
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been a lot of weird stuff you'll have to speak French no I
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can't this will have to speak French
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lordy they will hate you yes especially because my last name I will actually be
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lynched anglophones that move over there
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and like straight up are like hello Bon
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I would like to order waffles the waffles like no they're
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going to hate you I'm going to have to I'm going to have to like get all my
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food delivered from Amazon or just buy it at Costco and literally never say a
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word I've gotten through certain foreign countries that way but it's like
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pretending I'm mute and just being like I know how all this stuff works and just
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like being obvious about things and then just never talking and just it it works
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it's fine K back
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no oh my God is that is that
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the French yes oh my God no oh man but
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like yeah okay seriously right now and there's some theories and a prime
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actually has a very good always speak English you are stupid English people at
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lonus Tech yeah yeah some of you do yeah
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if you go to Montreal sure but you make your way out into the BBS and it's a
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whole other story yeah so um I I've been
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looking through rums and a very very large like 75 80 85% of the strong
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resumés are from Montreal or Quebec or
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or Quebec City or or Verdun or wherever
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there's quite a few different areas but it's all in Quebec to some degree a huge
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percentage of it interesting and not even just programmers a lot of different
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talent that I'm looking for seems to be over there and English speaking ones are
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moving to the states to make more money a prime theory is the frankophones don't
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want to move ah oh
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oh I need a cigarette a really long one
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so like like really good programmers
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from other parts of the country that are English main speaking either like move
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to the states or everyone else moved to the states so they stay here and get paid ludicrous amounts of M
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right fascinating all right yeah I don't
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know pre-recorded yes uh technically no
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we are actually very live right now we were thinking of spoofing you guys and
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just like playing this on Friday and then we were like
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H YOLO whatever y all right so um should we do an actual
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Tech topic here I mean we can I mean this one's pretty interesting mazore
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settings on the Forum was the original poster for this the Titan typo is that
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supposed to be Max settings I I don't even you know what maybe it's like a
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maybe it's a Star Wars reference okay but isn't that Moz which
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doesn't make any sense but um I I you
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know what just whatever um did I just
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correct you on a Star Wars thing I have very
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much and very deep Star Wars knowledge I
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know none of it is Canon anymore oh and
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it's all old okay yeah all right you
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want to talk you want to talk Grand Admiral thrawn Mary Jade fine gral thr's
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Canon is he Canon yeah shut up he got brought back in oh hell's yeah the new
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animated series Rebels is like is that
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that story line gr Emerald Thon thank goodness cuz like out of all the like
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Legions of Star Wars writers Timothy Zan has got to be no he's super stoked right
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now because it's like a show about his character that's fantastic yeah and it's
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like actually really cool because it brings a more dynamic character into the Star Wars Universe did they somewhat
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stick to the I see I'm I like B watching
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a show so you haven't started it no okay got it and I no one we don't want know
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there yeah okay okay all right and like
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okay I have heard from the writer that he really appreciates the depiction of
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his character so they must have stuck with how he was fantastic well I am
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stoked on that I you know what's another one that's said all the books are Canon
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no no they're super not um I would okay I we'll get back to Titan X in a minute
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um because this is more important uh you know what's another really great
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opportunity for um for for for
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adaptations to film is have you read the tales from the Moss Eisley Cantina no or
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Cantina whatever it is Cantina I think um really good it's just a collection of
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short stories in fact I think it's from a bunch of different writers but like some well-known ones like I think
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Kevin for Star Wars sort of it's It's The Back stories of like everyone who's
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in there oh that's cool yeah it's it's actually so that's how people know about
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like the doctor and stuff cuz like I know some of those like factoids but I
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have that makes a lot more sense I've been trying to figure out like what book would this be in yeah that makes way
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more sense yeah so it's actually like they're they're really good and there's
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such a variety from from short story to he's in Rogue one Dron no uh the the the
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crazy doctor guy that oh yeah what's his face the guy who's I have the death
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sentence on 12 systems you mean on 12
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systems Mac PC Linux Xbox PlayStation 4
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what are you talking about that has driven me crazy like and that that's the
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kind of stuff that I probably would have fixed in a special edition right right
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right fix one word and all of a sudden this sentence makes any sense that dude
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is in Rogue one it's like a weird Cameo he like slides past the screen and
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there's been some controversy there because like the town that they're in
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blows the hell up so everyone's like how did he make it or I guess no that's
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after yeah so that's it's no yeah so he
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must have gone there and then died well
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he has the death sentence on 12 systems so guess that got taken care of but
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um oh yeah so I'm okay okay okay fine
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we'll talk we'll talk about this basically NVIDIA posted a blog post uh
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Titan XP enables new levels of performance for Creative professionals
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our latest driver available today delivers three times more performance
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and applications like Maya so you can create and design faster than ever
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before and when you're done you can rip through Battlefield 1 at 100 frames per
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second the best part is it's available from NVIDIA.com yeah that is the best part um yeah not GeForce experience
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although it's also available there here's why okay while I appreciate the
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gesture this is why um no competition is
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a big loadable crap because NVIDIA to
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their credit has actually done a reasonably good job with the tech
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technology available to them of iterating and driving graphics
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performance faster and faster and faster in basically the complete absence of any
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competitor over the last few years when it comes to gaming yeah where
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they have cut back and they have scaled
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back especially and to be clear I have my criticisms of NVIDIA U the fact that
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we now get each generation of gpus as
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two generations of g-forces with the the the SEC the cut down card as a flagship
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and then we get the real one as a Next Generation Flagship okay so I've got my
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issues which is super frustrating which is frustrating clear but I understand
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the business reasons why they're doing it and it's not that bad they are still
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developing new gpus even if that development is driven by professional
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use and the data center our title is LTX
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2017 oh is it uh can you fix or do you
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want me to fix oh blood um
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okay uh the wi show you need to change
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what category we're into news and talk uh Fridays at
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:30 Pacific is yeah that's okay we'll
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just leave it and the category shows talk shows talk shows Bippity boity done
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thank you viewer okay all right remember
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the first Titan yeah was actually
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suitable for workstation use yeah so it
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was actually capable of less cut down
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fp64 performance compared to the gaming
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cards it was more like a Quadro in that sense since then not only Titans but
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also quadros have not had the same
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functionality enabled compared to their Tesla counterparts and then in the case
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of the very high in Tesla GP 100 that that one has excellent uh High Precision
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performance as well so this is basically NVIDIA like re unlocking something that
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they locked away because they didn't have to deal with
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it which is
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frustrating but also I'm glad that we have it like I'm I'm happy it happened
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I'm sad that it had to Happ this looks like a blatant response to Vega and the
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rumors around Vega are that regardless of gaming performance
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it looks like it's going to be a pretty powerful professional platform which is
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like weird but cool I can also see why
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they're doing it you know like we have a video coming soon about AMD's Vega based
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supercomputer so it's one peda flop on a single rack W and um I mean that is
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between like between Mining and like
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professional like research use AMD could probably more common mhm
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AMD could probably sell every graphics card they could possibly
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make that's great which is which is which is great um cuz they need to cuz
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they really do need to um and I forget where I was going
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with that right so that so right so it's not a huge surprise to me that that's
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driving their design yeah it's just it hasn't been very
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common in in those style of cards yes
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all right right so uh let's move let's do one more topic um and then we'll just
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end the show early no I'm no I'm kidding then we'll do ads so AMD clarifies why
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Threadripper is using four dyes so this
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was posted by diin on the Forum let go ahead and pull this up cuz check that
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out there's a delited Threadripper this doesn't make any sense because epic goes
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up to 32 course and also sits on a very
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similar package with four exposed dieses
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like this if you were to delit it so why would Threadripper also need four
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because it doesn't have an eight channel memory controller like epic does so it
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wouldn't need the two memory controllers
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per die and it turns out that what's going
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on here is because Threadripper only goes up to 16 cores what we're actually
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seeing is two fully enabled dyes and
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then two of them are just dummies right
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and diagonal that's right so these are supposed to help spread out the heat
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load according to uh you know what will give us more better heat dissipation to
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our coolers well more yeah evenly dissipate so instead of it being on that
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diagonal it's kind of more around better for coolers a lot better for coolers and
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uh the other purpose of the two dies is actually structural so they prevent
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imbalance and allow for simple cooler mounting without any chance of damaging
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the CPU they are not active they're not like failed ryzen cores or anything like
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that they don't even contain working transistors so there's no hope of being
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able to like unlock them or something they are just dummy course AMD also
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didn't want to create a new socket for Threadripper so they like found some
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ways to take benefit from having these dummy core things and we're like cool
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sounds good designing a socket is a fairly significant undertaking um aside
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from electrically and it's really annoying yeah not not for AMD it's
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really annoying for everyone else there's this whole new platform new boards new mounting holes new mounting
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holes you're you're not going to be able to transfer Hardware as much it's going to be harder to have stuff on hand if
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you're swapping stuff out in like a very high availability many server type of
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situation it's annoying for board Partners who have to make more things
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now it's annoying for everyone on the entire stack yep and you know you look
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at something like USB micro b that should give you some idea how hard it is
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to design a robust reliable interface
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yeah and so the more of those that AMD has to build the better
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good if I just don't go way too fast so three levels or three bars three bars of
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spice okay I want to try this one um so
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Savage jerky the jerky made with the best ingredients the best without
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nitrates or preservatives the goal was to create a snack that's full of flavor
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they definitely achieved
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that but it isn't bad for you I'll go with ghost
28:49
pepper um we've got notes here about
28:52
what people seem to love I like the maple Buffalo bacon and I think Mojo is
28:56
my new favorite Mojo is really good Mojo and traditional are both really good mhm
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and I think they're their new flavors aren't they but if you like spicy there's like ghost pepper and like
29:05
Carolina Reaper and like all that kinds of crazy
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stuff I need to wait until my first one's down yeah to get acclimated to
29:13
this one but this one tastes really good too oh exactly yeah Mojo habanero also
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quite nice um so that's pretty much it use
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offer code LT to save 10% at Savage jerky.com
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and now I'll be eating this for the rest of the show sorry in advance everyone which one
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did you have today ghost pepper oh the ghost pepper is brutal yeah it's all
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right yeah everything's fine this one's
29:44
really nice full plane um oh yeah what do we have oh you know what no I don't
29:48
have it ready yet let me get it ready first that's cool first up we've got a
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leak that's right leakas has left the
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building entered the building entered
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this was posted by Mr troll over on the Forum and the original article here is
30:03
from tweak Town AMD Radeon RX Vega
30:10
56 benchmarks have been leaked and it looks like according to the leak it may
30:16
prove to be a GTX 1070
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killer which would be good for them cuz the 1070 is a very nice
30:26
card is a a little bit too hot yeah but I'll I'll get i'll get
30:31
adjusted I find that one like if you take it slow is really good yeah I'm
30:34
going to have some more after um so Battlefield 1 has it beating the GTX
30:40
1070 Civ 6 same thing Doom apparently
30:43
same thing and uh Cod whatever I is that
30:46
infinite infite Warfare Warfare okay I don't know why they're benchmarking that but sure sure okay anyway it looks like
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it actually looks like uh anywhere from
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10 to even as much as almost 15% faster in some of those benchmarks so that
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would be great news for team red although I don't know how much stake and
31:06
do we know our stock to put in this and do we know the price um
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$3.99 it is rumored to be $3.99 in fact we have all the rumors for Vega pricing
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and we we go through those in a minute so and okay how much is a 1070 right now
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let's see GTX more about 450 450 yeah um
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so the benchmarks were run at 1440p Battlefield 1 at Ultra ziv 6 at Ultra
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with four times M uh multi sample anti-aliasing Doom it ultra um with tsaa
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and it is rumored to be coming in at 3.99 now so yeah you can get 450 usually
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closer to like 470 480 and some at$
31:51
499 that will be pretty killer um we
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don't have a rumored release date though for though for that I don't think
31:58
so we'll have to wait and see when it actually shows up right other prices
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though we do have as well so this was
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posted by Buck goop on the
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Forum and this slide here leaked by wccf
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Tech says that it will be available August 2017 and there will be a Vega
32:22
64 a Vega 64 limited edition this we
32:25
knew about this we talked about when we did our unveiling at TX so that's with a
32:28
brushed metal shroud and there will be a Vega 64 liquid
32:33
cooled uh what else we got here is that just a lighter colored brush metal
32:38
shroud on the liquid cool it looks like it it might not even be lighter right I
32:42
don't know why they went so light yeah nobody does silver right
32:48
now yeah it's like they want the reference card to clash with
32:53
everything um okay so here's the room
32:58
pricing the Radeon Aqua pack which is
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supposed to include the liquid card with
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um with what probably with the rest of the equipment you need to run it I'm
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assuming I have to see what's rumored um no but
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up Vega Vega Vega Vega Vega Vega spec
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spec specs reference model starts at uh
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$4.99 apparently for the 64 limited
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edition 295 watt card
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wow wow you
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guys I do I do want to say if you can scroll down for a second whoa the liquid
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cooled one is apparently 350
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watt wow AMD what are you doing over there
33:46
buddy ah okay sorry what were you pointing at uh just the fact that this
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is just like a thing that's averaged now 12.7
33:56
Tera flops yeah that's crazy like I still remember when we like just barely
33:59
passed one and everyone was like holy crap wow a tera flop on a GPU holy
34:05
smokes um so what else we got here for
34:09
rumors so the bundles will apparently include discounts on select ryzen CPU
34:14
and motherboard combos select Samsung free sync displays and two game titles
34:19
Wolfenstein 2 and prey 2 that's really cool um the the game part is actually
34:25
surprisingly less cool than the other ones but would you you pay an extra
34:30
however much for a bundle oh wait no this okay right the
34:36
the packs aren't rumored right we I I've already made a video about that okay I
34:39
can never tell what I'm supposed to know and not supposed to know so I do know
34:43
that okay but tell me this so what's your thought process on it then cuz it this the first time I've heard it looks
34:47
like the pack adds about $100 to the card versus if you were able to just buy
34:50
it Standalone but then what's the discounts on the other stuff the disc
34:54
you pay an extra $100 and you get a
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discount on other stuff but what's the discount cuz if I'm going to buy that
35:01
stuff anyways oh you get 100 bucks off a ryzen CPU and motherboard combo um you
35:04
get up to $200 off a free sync display so if I was going to buy a monitor and
35:08
that CPU and motherboard anyways then you're thrilled yeah but were you as an
35:13
Enthusiast I don't I don't know because the 64 version is only going to be
35:18
available at launch with bundles oh
35:23
really okay how does this bundles thing work or pack or whatever like what are
35:28
you actually buying when you buy the pack you just pay1 extra dollar and you get discount cards yes what you just get
35:34
like little paper from thinking it's a great idea to being super mad like like
35:39
that it's amazing you just get like little paper discount cards or like in
35:43
an email or something digital
35:46
yeah and presumably based on how promos
35:49
like this typically worked at the retailer I used to work at you'd
35:52
probably have to use it like right
35:56
away okay so now what do you think that's just
36:01
weird so the r as a consumer I would just wait until I don't have to do that
36:05
anymore okay can I explain the rationale though unless for some reason I did want
36:09
to buy that specific combination which might happen uh someone who's just now getting
36:14
into PC gaming I could totally see that as a thing okay so the rationale is that
36:19
they don't want coin miners to just snap them all
36:23
up and if I had to guess I would say
36:27
that this is AMD's way of punishing coin
36:31
miners just charging them more since the
36:34
value like the the the use secondhand value of the cards will be higher than
36:38
the freaking retail price AMD might as well take that money and those people
36:42
won't care about monitors or games or CPU motherboard bundles and so it's
36:48
their way of punishing Miners and giving an even better deal to
36:53
anyone building a new pc isn't that crashing though crashing like miners
36:58
aren't buying as many cards right now that's I I'm not sure to be perfectly
37:02
honest with you I don't know where the whole mining scene is at um what it's on
37:07
the up it's on the up again again yeah
37:11
all right well apparently mining is back so so so that's question away for like a
37:14
week or two and new
37:18
CS really really good okay so now that
37:22
you know that now what do you think I I
37:27
it's just weird as a consu as as someone who's buying a new computer I would look
37:32
at that and be like especially someone who's not into Mining and has no idea
37:35
what it is I would look at this setup and just be like
37:39
what the hell is going
37:42
on and that's like the majority of the people that are going to be looking at
37:46
this just to be completely honest right the majority of the people that are looking at this are going to go
37:50
mining what or like I heard my friend
37:54
talking about that why do I care I just want to buy graph I just don't get it cuz like my kids don't have graphics
37:58
cards so why do miners need all these graphics cards
38:03
wow wow all right that's like pretty high up
38:07
there for bad in other news tape storage
38:11
yeah the media that just keeps on T um
38:15
this was posted on the Forum by WM groom AK the original article here is from RS
38:21
Technica IBM and Sony have figured out how to cram 330 tab into a tiny tape
38:29
cartridge sputtered magnetic layer lubricant and new heads enable 200 gabit
38:35
per second oh excuse me per inch density
38:39
yeah per second I was like Whoa man yeah that' be some fast tape yo um so this is
38:46
um yeah in a so this would be 330 tabt in a palm-sized cartridge the world's
38:51
largest largest hard drives by contrast which are about twice the physical size
38:55
of the tape are the 6 60 terb seate SSD
38:59
or 12 tbte Hitachi helium filed hard
39:03
drive pretty cool um the largest
39:06
commercially available tapes Only Store about 15
39:09
terab so uh when it's eventually commercialized these new cartridges will
39:13
be significantly more expensive because of the tape's complex manufacturing
39:17
process likewise a new tape drive will be required but we'd only need like two
39:22
to back up our entire paby project yeah
39:25
cuz there's some redundancy it's not actually a cabit of um addressable space
39:29
yeah all right this is kind of a bummer this is posted by Morgan
39:34
MLG um coffee lake so that's Intel's
39:38
upcoming rumored to be up to six core
39:41
mainstream processors will apparently
39:45
not not
39:48
work m m mute mute mute uh yeah got this
39:52
will not work with z270
39:56
yeah done D mind you this shouldn't be a surprise
40:00
to anyone who's been following Intel's um processor motherboard Cadence over
40:06
the last few years because z170 and z270
40:11
same socket okay the chips that work in
40:14
either work in both as long as there's BIOS compatibility it's usually two gens
40:18
and it's usually two gens on the mainstream so and there was probably a
40:22
significant reworking that was required in order to put a six core on the
40:26
mainstream it's interesting though that right now it's not possible for people
40:32
during the biggest war Intel has had in
40:35
a while because they haven't had a war in a while um that both sides would have
40:41
to upgrade their whole platform because right now if you if
40:46
this happened a year ago you wouldn't have had to upgrade your platform right
40:51
Intel fans would have been able to buy the new chip just buy the new six core
40:55
and that would have been the excuse I don't want to move to the other side because I'm just going to buy a chip not
40:59
a whole chip and motherboard combo it's going to be way cheaper for me there's
41:02
no way it's financially viable for me to invest in a whole platform now it's
41:05
whole platform versus whole platform
41:09
so normal Cadence or not I think it
41:13
helps AMD a lot that that's happening rumor though this won't help AMD if it's
41:17
true by friendly non- murdering sort on the
41:21
Forum that's kind of a that's kind of a cool name uh the original article here
41:26
is from Guru 3D there's a rumored core
41:30
I3 8300 with four cores and eight
41:35
threads which would make it basically equivalent to like a 6700k cuz it's
41:40
apparently clocked at like 4 GHz I don't know if this is just someone
41:44
messing around with like Windows registry nonsense to get this to show up
41:49
but it it it doesn't look like it because there are also um here what's uh
41:56
oh wait no yeah it's all it's all Windows capture so I'm not aware
42:01
personally of a way to do that like off the top of my head but it seems like something could beit it like
42:06
disgustingly easily but yeah this is according to screenshots on a Chinese
42:09
Forum I find this very hard to believe
42:12
and I would think it's more likely for it to be some weird apparently yes it's
42:16
fake yeah yeah I uh that's like super
42:20
low res it's pretty crap um but there
42:23
you go there's a rumor uh oh we got featured on on RS
42:28
Technica RS Technica which was pretty sick so I just want to self-
42:31
congratulate over that um neat and they
42:35
wrote up a little kind of like write up thing essentially a summary yep Jake
42:39
thinks that we should have a written site to accompany our videos I disagree
42:43
I think we went down that path Y and then we're like wow wow this is hard and
42:47
there's no money in it yeah um we discovered fortunately before we
42:51
invested our whole livelihood in print
42:55
online written we sites yeah that that's
42:58
a bad idea um what else we got okay I'm
43:03
going to I'm yeah I got one more topic for you okay okay so let me Pitch it to
43:07
you let me Pitch it to you while while okay let me Pitch it to you while I um
43:12
while I go through the float plan stuff you can think about it okay so this is a
43:16
new segment that I'm going to call what's
43:20
worse so I know I've already read it I know I
43:24
know but I got I gotta hold on hold on okay
43:27
so this kind of thing happens especially to some people but what's worse dropping
43:33
your phone in a public toilet that's
43:36
empty or in your own toilet after you
43:40
peed in
43:43
it okay now hold on in other news we
43:46
have some exclusive content over on Floatplane that you guys will want to
43:50
watch yes Techquickie what's the difference between parallel and serial
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the fastest ultrawide gaming monitor but
43:58
at what cost we can see thumbnails too w
44:03
wow that is a cancerous thumbnail look at it go um there's exclusive content
44:08
mezzanine update number 12 almost there
44:11
Techquickie wire PC video game ports so
44:15
bad so bad the worst um LT the brightest
44:20
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display AMD let me build their new ad
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Vega super computer which they actually
44:29
did uh what else we got more exclusive
44:33
stuff LTX behind the scenes Vlog before the show opened a lot of comments on
44:37
that um what else we got here I think I
44:42
think this one's live already I'm not sure July 28th no h why is Hotel Wi-Fi
44:45
so slow that's a pretty good Techquickie Pippin Apple's only ever made
44:50
console is still not on YouTube yeah that's still not on YouTube so we did a
44:53
reaction to Apple's forgotten game console one of our longer videos mhm
44:58
yeah actually it's really long 16 or 17 minutes long and it's one of the rare uh
45:02
actually featuring Luke videos these days yeah and I think there's one more
45:06
that I'm missing cuz uh there's been a lot of simultaneous releases lately cuz
45:10
all the rise and Threadripper and all the VGA and all that kind of stuff so
45:15
yeah uh I think what goes up I think there's some good stuff going up this
45:19
weekend we're going to have our unboxing from LTX of the Razer toaster okay so if
45:24
you guys aren't uh subscribed to float playing already then uh I'll go ahead
45:29
and copy that link into the video description for you because it's pretty
45:33
sick Early Access better streaming video quality and of course it helps us keep
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this whole show going around here so uh thank you in
45:42
advance um okay so so I don't think it's
45:46
that simple okay of a question okay so
45:50
do you need some clarification yes okay so the public toilet doesn't have any
45:56
obvious like buildup in it okay but it's
46:00
a public toilet and you weren't what's
46:03
again this is another thing though what's the water level because a lot of
46:06
home toilets have a very high water level and a lot of public toilets have a
46:10
very low water level the phone is submerged Sub in either case yeah the
46:15
phone submerge you got to put your you got to go you got to go above the wrist
46:18
bone deep in either
46:22
one it's an interesting question I think
46:26
from from reading the twitch chat it
46:29
seems like most people I could be totally wrong but when I looked at it it
46:34
seemed like most people were saying good straw pole good idea seemed like most
46:38
people were saying public toilet really because it's
46:43
clean actually I actually disagree
46:47
exactly and my big thing for it
46:51
is very narrow amount of sources of
46:54
bacteria and other junk
46:57
compared to extremely wide range amount of sources of other bacteria interesting
47:02
so you're going full science on your answer here not just like oh I'm more
47:06
comfortable with my own pee and my family's pee yeah versus like a lot of
47:11
my own pee versus Trace Amounts of
47:14
somebody else's P Trace Amounts of a huge mix of other people's stuff and
47:19
more aggressive more uh resilient bacterias might still be in there for
47:24
sure mhm but that could also be people saying of your own toilet
47:30
agreed but it's still me it's stuff that
47:33
went through me it's stuff that's like around me and it's just going to go on my hand y y it's probably okay okay and
47:39
I would do I would do the trick where you flush it first and then you grab it
47:44
and I would probably grab like a bunch of toilet paper and then grab it well no
47:47
no for the sake of argument you can't go get a rubber glove like you have to
47:52
toilet paper is literally right there you don't have like you don't have a
47:56
waterproof phone you have a pixel okay yeah you got to get in there and get it
48:01
fast yeah I'd probably flush it flushing
48:04
happens really quickly yeah but flushing also circulates the water there's a
48:08
worse chance of it penetrating a membrane or getting de into pixel so
48:12
it's screwed because they use cloth Liners in their like speakers and stuff
48:16
instead of metal like most phones did you know about that no there's people
48:20
that have like reached into here to try to clean out their like speaker Grill
48:23
thing and torn it oh that's a shame
48:27
yeah it's it's kind of a mess all right well we've got the results we've got the result I'm really excited for the pixel
48:31
2 am I doing that review I have no idea I'm
48:36
down most of you prefer what if you flush your phone
48:41
down whoa no you can't do that how big
48:46
is or how tiny is your
48:49
phone I'm very surprised all right well
48:54
what what do you think it's your question
49:00
I'm I'm going I'm going home toilet I'm going P home toilet why though um for me
49:07
it's a purely emotional thing I don't have a scientific basis for you want to touch other people's stuff I just I I
49:12
find other people's stuff so remember I'm coming at this as a
49:15
parent part of my daily life is touching other people's pee and poo yeah so like
49:21
my comfort level with that over the last 5 years has gotten a lot higher but like
49:26
with your own crew but that's like with my kids yeah whereas someone else I'm
49:32
just like oh man that's yeah and like I
49:36
at least know what the cleaning schedule of my own toilets is whereas like
49:39
someone else's it could look clean but like might be clean just cuz like a lot
49:44
of people been going through there and they take the stuff away yeah like I
49:48
don't know man so so that's where I'm at on that that's where I'm out on that
49:51
yeah all right well thank you guys very much for tuning in we will see you again
49:55
next week same Time same
49:59
no oh right on but on Friday at the
50:02
proper time on the proper Channel this is the proper Channel yeah okay bye bye
50:08
oh right the intro
50:11
outro are you surprised by the results of that a little actually I thought
50:16
people would prefer not to put their hand in pea
50:24
water someone said it's Friday I guess maybe somewhere Friday Friday got to get
50:30
down on Friday something something something for the weekend weekend Friday
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Friday