ONE PLUS 5 CHEATING IN BENCHMARKS - WAN Show June 23, 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2018-05-06
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15,179 words · ~75 min read
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and live the entire office is under
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construction only 5 minutes late and
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even though he's not here it was because of Linus's computer yeah it's like 28%
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Windows updates yeah yes Linus's laptop has been sitting here trying to Windows
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update since before 4:30 and then now
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Nick actually has you guys can't see it but he has two laptops one of which just
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got factory reset so he's going through the like Windows set up and the other
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one which has been stuck doing a Windows update for like uh probably I'd estimate
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around like 11 minutes now 10 11 minutes
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so uh yeah that's pretty cool anyways
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welcome to the W show we have a few topics that aren't uh waiting for
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laptops to work they are Apple's iMac
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Pro is rumored to be using server grade Intel processors we have benchmarks for
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AMD's epic processor and pricing apparently so that's pretty cool also
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OnePlus 5 gets CAU cheating at benchmarking programs this is not new
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well okay it's new for the OnePlus 5 but this is not new for phone manufacturers
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I'm not saying that's okay for OnePlus I'm just saying you know uh the NSA has
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opened a GitHub account and posted a bunch of uh programs there so that's
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that's interesting pretty pretty interesting um interesting is a good way
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to put that but yeah we will talk about that and more after this brief intro woo
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like I I literally just want to have twitch chat open
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and I I just no ni not allow you know
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yeah you're not allowed to have ttch I'm not allowed to see the
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fpsa Y Synergy share your mouse and keyboard
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on multiple computers comic Bento use off code LD to get 7 bucks off of comic
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Bento today and visit freshbooks.com
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slw if you want to like stuff that has to do with freshbooks which is like
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doing the accounting of a small business and stuff
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anyways while you're still I have two
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computers both have slightly different blue screens on them
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now hey hey okay he's finally into his
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first computer and we are into our first topic I'm going to post the link in the
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NOP he is not into his first computer
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never mind I'm going to post the link in the chat oh also I think I'm supposed to
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set this thing to live that would be a good idea come on
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buddy I'm going to go find a third computer I'll be back okay bye Nick um
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apparently YouTube has their server had
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a temporary problem and couldn't do what I asked it to do and I've been told to
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try it again in a few minutes so the announcement video is not going to be up
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yet if you guys want to remind me Focus the
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camera hey Max apparently I'm out of
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focus sorry okay so we will we will work on
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that also my name is not lonus I'm sitting in Linus's position today uh I
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will be luke today and the person sitting over here will be Nick light
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once he returns uh I mean I think it looks good to me but I'm pretty bad at
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that stuff
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so your sound is odd yes okay so that is
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because there is currently construction going on like 30 40 50 feet give or take
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which person we're talking about directly behind where the camera is and
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this mic is not super narrow range so it
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can probably uh pick all that
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up how's the focus now guys now it's in Focus okay cool good job Max thank you
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very much good job Max thanks thanks Max
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see you later wow later all right
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cool um if if I can get Google servers
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to start working at least at least now like Flo
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plane isn't the only one having issues with uploads this has been a great show so
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far is this is this going to have a title now okay so if we want to kind of
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jump in I posted the link into the chat what we're talking about right now is
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the rumor is the rumor yes there's a rumor that it's going it's going to it's
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it's posted on oh Mom don't call me right
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now so what this rumor means is that the
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iMac Pro would be offering server level xon processors their code name isn't
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going to be sky like X or kbl lake or
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whatever it's going to be pearly which is interesting it's going to use LGA
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2066 socket um yeah so no ryzen no epic
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for iMac Pros I kind of sort of actually
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saw this coming I think a lot of people probably did Apple's been using um Intel
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processors for a very long time one kind of neat thing is that the blog also
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noted that the iMac Pro will feature an ARM processor for like a secure section
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of the computer a secure Enclave similar to that of the MacBook Pro with the
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touch bar um this secure Enclave will add additional layer of security to the
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mac and it suggests that there should be Touch ID built into the keyboard as well
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which is actually pretty cool that's cool they wasn't there either like a
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rumor or something about a Microsoft
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keyboard that also has Touch ID enabled so it would just be pretty much same thing oh I thought there was one from
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last week I don't remember that
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personally wow I hate I hate Edge so
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much there we go that video has been fixed which is
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good um YouTube is having some weird server issues oh
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Bing there we go we're good there okay yeah so that's actually pretty much all
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we have to say there just a rumor about what might be on the next iMac Pro um
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I'm going to do a straw pole I want to see what you guys
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think um what processors you guys think should have been in there
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um let's go wow this is lagging a lot
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let's go with um
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epic or
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2066 socket
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Intel spoiler alert it's going to be
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epic that they want I just I just want to see spoiler alert I just want to
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see don't insult AMD that much when did I insult
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AMD people are so weird sometimes yeah I don't know okay anyways next topic cuz
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that one was sort of boring epic benchmarks and pricing uh we're going to
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go to the anch article which I will share in the chat give me one quick
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second this is the new 7,000 series
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CPUs I'll jump back to that straw pole in a little while after we've read
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through this article I'm going to bring this up on
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screen so yeah fairly big news um it's
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it's pretty cool that they're actually showing charts and stuff of it which is
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nice it's going to be interesting seeing the Epic
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actually doing stuff this is is a whole bunch of different SKS so these are like
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probably all the Epic 7,000 series SKS so everywhere from 7601 to the
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7251 with the 7601 having 32 cores and
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64 threads I know a lot of people have already seen this but the pricing
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information is here as well so that 32 core 64 thread one is going to be you
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know like around $4,000 is a little little little bit
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rough um quite a bit it's quite a bit yeah so
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h a little bit brutal but oh well down
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to the bottom end of that the Epic 7251
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is only going to be around $400 though so you've got a pretty massive spread in
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terms of price but that does go again from eight cores 16 threads to 32 cor 64
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threads so I'm not too surprised I have found this whole like giant War that's
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going on right now between like I9 and
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epic and all this kind of stuff pretty interesting because of the percentage of
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people that are very viciously engaged in the war that will actually even
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purchase any of it yeah and like okay
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this was something that kind of I don't know I saw and I was like what are you
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even saying um but some people were like oh why didn't you mention epic at all in
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your core I9 video and it's like well epic isn't a core I9 competitor thread
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Ripper is right yeah so like why would we mention a server processor in a core
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I9 video well they're both they're both little broad spectrum too and like
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people will use them for both things so I I sort I sort of understand both sides
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um but yeah we also don't have it yeah
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yeah yeah which is slightly problematic but you're right like it's you know like
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with most things it's a lot of people who are never going to buy either of
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them um debating not to say that that's
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bad because we all know just like in the Auto industry stuff that you see on the
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top top end stuff is going to trickle down into the consumer grade prod in a
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number of years um but yeah it's just kind of kind of interesting going to
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shrink us a little bit here so here's the disruptive one socket performance
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stuff that's actually pretty cool I I always worry about getting benchmarks
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directly from companies instead of being able to look at a wide spectrum of like
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different reviewers yeah uh cuz that's my favorite way to do it if I get like a
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whole bunch of different banks of numbers cuz people can run different settings on their test people can run
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different uh gaming benchmarks people can run different whatever so you get a
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mass of everyone's different numbers and look at the average and then you get
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whatever you want but um this is actually pretty cool these are running
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against a number of 2x so you have you have like two processors from the Intel
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side of things which is pretty crazy and it's still performing higher than that
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so I don't know I'm I'm very excited it's going to be sweet like I'm excited
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to see both Threadripper and epic in action so I am personally stoked um but
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that's about all I can say right now because who knows yeah yeah we need to
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get it in office and like you never know because what was there was something
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around the uh the most recent actual
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launch of an AMD processor I don't remember exactly which Benchmark it was
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but there's a huge amount of controversy over like how they ran it and how much
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RAM was in each system and like how many channels they were using for the
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different RAM and all that kind of stuff so when you get to the reviewer level
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there's hopefully more transparency in terms of like how their setups are being
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ran what their different settings are and you can get a way broader Spectrum
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with having a whole bunch of different reviewers and a whole bunch of different
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people that actually went out and bought it all testing it which is super cool
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yeah definitely let me check that straw pull now I actually think I might have
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lost the link which I'm pretty sure every you have
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it okay so uh do you want to post that
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in twitch chat actually yeah sure oh actually uh I not logged in that's fine
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I will grab it from you I got it
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cool okay great so people wanted an epic processor by
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65% versus 35% this is this is interesting I know
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like we and probably the majority of you
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guys are not the target audience for an iMac Pro um so they probably don't care
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also this is going into like deep Partnerships that have probably been
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worked on for a long time um who knows
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if Apple even knew the the Epic was coming I have no idea but like it's
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interesting to see how the Market's shifting because I bet you if you asked
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this well I guess there wouldn't have been competition but it's it's just fun
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to see this war happening I guess is kind of what I have to say because
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seeing a poll like this hopefully some
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people from different brands and from different companies see this and go oh
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interesting maybe I should put maybe not epic necessarily but AMD processors at
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some tier depending on whatever product I'm making yeah into my device cuz
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people are wanting it it's nice that it's actually a conversation again yes
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where there's actually the question of should we use Intel or AMD yeah and now
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that we have my like biggest worry leading up to this whole thing was like
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oh my goodness this sounds like a huge amount of work but now we have all the
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writers and they can do the work so I'm actually very excited this is an
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interesting time I I what I really want to see is more polls like this I want to
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host more polls like this on W show and I want more people to talk about it on
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the forums and stuff not that it isn't being talked about a lot um but cuz Yeah
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the more the word goes out the more it'll actually be put in stuff and
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that's exciting most definitely going to move
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on to the next topic it's probably enough about that
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for now OnePlus 5 gets caught cheating at benchmarking programs so this has
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happened in the past I believe with Samsung and probably a few other people
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as well I think it's fair to say probably most if not all phone
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manufacturers at this point so the OnePlus 5 received about a 5% boost in
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performance achieving the highest geek pinch four scores of a Snapdragon 835 to
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date instead of dropping to 0.31 GHz
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when there was a 0% load the OnePlus 3T
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score uh cores would stay above 0.98 GHz
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for the little cores and 1.29 GHz for
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the big course
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wow yeah that's uh oh jeez H go away okay there we go
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that's that's something yeah that's a little
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rough oh well like I I don't know I have
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been just like when was the last time
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that you took like hardcore benchmarking numbers into consideration with a phone
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that's another there we go I'm going to do another straw poll actually I'm interested cuz right now for me it's
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usability battery life yeah
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because like everything that I want to do on my phone even game stuff any like
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fairly High tier phone will do completely fine with all of the games that I wanted to play yeah I personally
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I literally never look at phone like benchmarks but I am not the target
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consumer for that style of information so is this is this in benchmarks that
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they were uh running themselves pre-launch and then releasing or is this
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uh like a totally Market wide thing like
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is the release phone doing this or is this just their benchmarks I'm not sure
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if you can check into the post there you don't have access to that okay I'm just
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going to finish up this poll real quick let me see if I can get some stuff going
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here okay me create the poll and drop it
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in the chat
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there you go check out that straw pole in the chat I'm interested to see what you guys say battery life
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is uh usability is probably my number one most required needs to be really
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good feature on a phone then battery life for sure and then it starts getting
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to Performance and stuff of course but I'm not entirely looking at benchmarks I
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just need to make sure that it can do what I need to do very fluidly that's
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kind of what I'm looking for and geekbench itself I have not been
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super interested in for quite a while I think um but I'm going to check this
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straw poll pretty much immediately and see how this goes so sorta is is the top
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result and that's kind of exactly what I expected very important is literally the
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lowest result with only 59 votes at 7%
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not very is the second highest not at all is the third highest and important
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is the fourth highest so very important and important together only get like 25%
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of the vote and that's with a very Tech Centric Tech Centric audience yeah so
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like I find it interesting that companies would cheat cuz I feel like
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you're getting bad PR for cheating but you're not getting a huge amount of good
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PR for the 5% of bonus that they got I think it's one of those things that's
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like a huge disconnect because um yes
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you're 100% correct but I don't think that they have this information or maybe
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realize that how unimportant it is so stop cheating in your freaking test stop
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cheating it just makes you look bad it's so scummy and then like it's it's
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apparently I guess 25% of a tech audience is actually fairly significant
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yeah so maybe I get that to a certain degree but yeah you got to remember
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that's okay new straw 20 that's 25% of the audience that's going to be the
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person who their entire friend group goes to or family group goes to and is
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like hey what phone should I get and that person is now saying hey these guys
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are shady essentially um so yeah just
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don't don't cheat whether it's in phone benchmarks or or anything else in life
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just just be a good person things will
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happen as they're supposed to happen you
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know essentially so I'm making a new straw
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poll I'm asking does cheating and phone benchmarks make you dislike a product or
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a company just in case any phone companies
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saw that last poll that we did and we're like H 25% of viewers think it's pretty
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important maybe we should start cheating I'm going to see here because they get
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caught like every time I think does cheating and phone benchmarks make you
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dislike a product or a company yes or no we're going to keep it pretty simple
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this time and I want to see what people this is a straw pull heavy show but you
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know what I mean I'm down we're going to review this should do a straw about
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doing straw PES we should that would be a do you like us doing straw poles straw
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pole yes versus
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no there we go good so so some people
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don't really care and to be fair I'm
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maybe a little bit in that group it'll turn me off on a liking a company a
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little bit but not that much but like 70% of people dislike it if you cheat on
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benchmarks so they're phone companies I think I would care more if it was
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cheating was the outlier it just makes me like distrust
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benchmarks for phones in general to be honest like it just makes me go like
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okay even more so I don't care about those benchmarks but I I honestly think
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that's part of the reason why the previous drop hole that we did was so
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heavily in favor of not really caring for years we've all just been like well
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they fake them anyway freus anyways yeah
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uh Tom Chambers in twitch chat asks is Nick on drugs today and the answer to
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that is maybe if being high on life
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counts there you go best best best joke
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best joke I could ever do heck yeah bud okay moving on the NSA opens a GitHub
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account this is actually kind of hilarious I'm going to post this in uh
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the twitch chat as well this is from SD Times by the way I'm going to go through
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and call out the people who actually posted these
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topics uh so this one was posted
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by vertical box on the Forum thank you
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very much previous one was nerd Slayer one that was the OnePlus 5 topic epic
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benchmarks was posted by Tech Fanboy and the Apple iMac rumors was posted by red
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round two so the nsa's GitHub account
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this is actually kind of interesting yeah here we go so it lists all the
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different programs that they actually W
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stop it popup ads um all the all the different programs and stuff that they
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have on there so Apache acumulo a
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key/value store that features serers side programming cell-based access
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control ability to scale and stable client API that follows semantic
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versioning one of the interesting things in here is some of them are actually
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kind of cool um but I wonder if people
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are going to actually use them because
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of all the bad press that the NSA has had for a while now especially with like
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what was the name of that uh ransomware that like was just
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around W to cry W to cry having such
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heavy ties to like leaked NSA stuff and
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having like back doors all over the place and all this kind of not very good
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thing and now they're giving out software it makes me kind of wonder if
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people are going to be uh a little bit worried about actually using
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it uh Java Pathfinder manager jpf mango
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a static code analysis tool designed as part of the NASA a Java Pathfinder
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project this like this is kind of my
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take on this in general and this came from D DGM 1802 in twitch chat who said
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NSA GitHub government transparency
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and my response is they want you to think that yeah there's going to be an
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obscenely huge amount of stuff that they don't put on here and it's probably like
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super outdated crap that they're putting on there just speaking as a total Layman
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who hasn't looked into it at all my initial assumption is if they're putting
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it on GitHub they don't use it anymore and they haven't used it for like two
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years yeah cuz like defense software uh
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trickling down into the public is a thing that happens just not immediately
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so like said this might be slightly older things uh you can think of
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internet and GPS as two services that came from those kind of locations they
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did release 32 open- Source projects
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which is pretty cool and people can pour through the source which is a good thing
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uh one of them is DCP a program that reduces the time span needed for making
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forensic copies of hard drives for forensic analysis which is cool and
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freaky at the exact same time uh maple syrup close to my heart assesses the
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security state of an ARM-based device by examining the system register interface
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of the processor security enhanced Linux or SE Linux security enhancements for
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Android or SE Android and more like I
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said there's 32 different things that they released so that is uh both cool
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and interesting and transparent and not
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transparent and everything else that is confusion and limboe when it comes to
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NSA things essentially I don't know
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apparently uh if you're done with that topic apparently there was a flash crash
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for ethereum yesterday yes did you hear that is it back up so ethereum went down
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to like 10 cents yesterday um I don't
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know what the ethereum price is now
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uh is this it it looks like it popped back a little bit but maybe not entirely
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if we can get Jake down here he would totally know um so what it looks like
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the twitch chat will also know is this a topic that we have or I don't think so
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but somebody was spamming it in twitch chat so I decided to look it up um
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essentially what it looks like happened is somebody tried to sell a giant
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boatload of ethereum like multi-million dollars worth of ethereum is back at 326
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so apparently it just went like
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yeah you know a typical lesson in supply and demand right if you flood the market
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with something the value is going to drop significantly and with a market
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like this where it's so young and and there isn't like a a set standard where
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somebody can look at it and go okay there's a large Supply right now but we
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know that it's going to have longer term value um like people are going to be
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trading it immediately and when they see like oh crap the market has dropped then
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more people try to sell due to that and y y y so um just kind of interesting and
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and one of the concerns I guess that that you always have to have in mind
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with new currencies and cryptocurrencies and all that is like one person can
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significantly impact the price of the entire Market yeah to be fair that's
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happened with real too though oh yeah um some someone okay not someone a few
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people in chat are posting repeatedly in all capitals GTA5 mod thing are you
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going to talk about it or no I'm pretty sure we talked about it last week um if
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you want the best details on it those are going to be from other sources yeah
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and like the mod thing this summation of the mod thing is essentially they were
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being dicks um they now sort of went
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back a little bit on what they said and they said that they're not going to impact single player stuff but I don't
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think that's what people cared about anyway well and at the same time uh so I
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read that to add to the GTA 5 thing I
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read that in a statement saying that they're not going to attack the single
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player stuff but in their actionable items it didn't have anything to do with
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that so it's still super sketchy okay cuz I know the the single player mod
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stuff came out this week I'm not sure if the action mod items was from last week
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or from this week okay um but yeah I I I
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think people don't really care because most of the mods that people actually
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care about are the multiplayer ones anyway so
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like yeah like GTA RP I think was mod I
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think it was a super stupid move for them to do hopefully they hopefully they
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figure their life out yeah I don't know
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but yeah pretty I'm pretty sure we uh talked about it last week I know it's
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still developing um but yeah I'm pretty sure we did talk about it last week if
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you want to know more there's lots of like actually really good fully detailed
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reports I'm sure the GTA 5 subreddit is
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all over that um there's there's tons of details on this online uh we don't have
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like properly detailed notes in our DOC
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for the show today so I don't want to dive into it too deeply and say something wrong uh because that would be
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bad so I would I would uh the statement was mostly empty empty legales yeah
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exactly so it didn't actually like really mean anything when they're talking about the single player thing
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which was kind of sketched
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um nobody gives a blank about
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multiplayer mods I think they do yeah I'm totally do yeah like modded servers
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I think were like a huge thing weren't they they killed single player mods
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that's what people are pissed about I'm sure a huge percentage of people are
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pissed about single player mods I'm also sure that there's a percentage of people
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that are pissed about multiplayer mods um I think a lot of people are just
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angry in general because they probably should have been left alone uh because I
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haven't heard anyone screaming or upset about the mods existing in the past and
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I've heard a huge amount of people screaming and upset about the mods
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existing now so okay yeah well there you
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go we we'll see how that keeps developing uh speaking of developing
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Netflix interactive TV choose your own
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Adventures this is yeah I saw that I
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don't know man I think it's kind of neat I don't really know what to think about
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it outside of that um it's kind of Neo burrito yeah I know I watched I think
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the the person that has the KE sake to
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this shirt Philip def Franco we talked about it in a video I think it was him
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that I was watching said that he thinks it's super cool because he used to like
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Choose Your Own Adventure books right and now he can like relive that with his
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son by doing Choose Your Own Adventure Netflix stuff I don't know how well it's
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going to work um apparently the first one is called puss and book as in like
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the Puss and Boots character um trapped in an epic tale it's debuting uh it says
27:57
today but I don't really know when this was posted so there we go
28:02
uh three days ago so it's it's up now if
28:06
you want to go do a Choose Your Own Adventure on Netflix you can do that
28:09
that's a thing with puss and book it's a it's an interesting direction for them
28:14
to go into I just like I don't know it's
28:18
one of those things where I think the experience is probably so much better
28:21
with a book
28:24
um and it's another like dumbing down of
28:29
entertainment step um that we seem to be
28:33
taking in the past few years but it's it's cool and you know the perfect
28:38
example is like you said with Philip DeFranco where he wants to go through it
28:41
with his son like I think that's an excellent use case I just think that
28:45
it's an extremely limited genre but then again I would also say that YouTube toy
28:50
content and kids content is probably an extremely limited genre and it's
28:54
literally the most successful thing on the platform so maybe I'm just stupid
28:59
I'm I'm not afraid to admit that little bit of an interesting tidbit here uh
29:02
most TV experiences and the latest iOS
29:05
devices should it should work on uh though not its own site and Apple TV
29:12
isn't compatible either nor are Android smartphone or tablets but support for
29:17
these platforms could come down the road I guess wait what yeah so it can their
29:23
own website Android devices and Apple tv
29:27
it doesn't work on on but so what does it work on iOS iOS devices and most TV
29:34
experiences okay but not Android TV and
29:38
not Apple TV so like smart TV is the biggest thing I'm sure like tyen and all
29:43
that stuff so that's good but you're
29:46
still cutting out a gigantic percentage of your consumer you want to ban that
29:50
dink
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yeah um I'll work on that if you want to keep talking about yeah I mean I don't
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think there's a ton else to say um it's
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an interesting Direction it's you know I think it's one of those someone said
30:07
chomecast I think chomecast would work if you were streaming off an iOS device
30:12
I think does chomecast mirror on your device though or does it just broadcast
30:17
I think it mirrors on your device so as long as the device that you're using
30:20
broad supports it right I think I think
30:24
your device would be the important thing there yeah yeah
30:29
as long as the interface is still on your device and your device supports it I'm sure it would be fine yeah I think
30:33
it'll be okay so we'll see that's interesting I I can't even watch it
30:39
because I don't have a smart TV or an iOS device I just use the browser or uh
30:44
Android TV so I'm boned yeah so I won't
30:48
get to go on a puss in book Choose Your Own Adventure on Netflix I'm sure you're
30:53
devastated I'm my life is basically destroyed at this point but if you guys
30:58
would like to report back and tweet me or the lineus tech handle and let us
31:02
know um wait oh that's his personal one now so I guess tweet me or lonus who
31:07
isn't here um and let us know what you think of Netflix interactive TV that
31:11
would be cool cuz I don't think he can watch it either no he has an iPhone yeah
31:16
cuz I I actually kind of want him to try it cuz he has his kids or whatever yeah
31:21
that's a use case that makes sense I think the LG TV he has is not Android so
31:25
it could probably work okay yeah all right
31:28
yeah yeah I guess we should do the
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sponsor stuff now sponsor sponsor spots
31:35
there's a lot of Rapid Fire wow yeah
31:39
okay cool it was kind of a rapid fire kind of week Synergy I'm going to talk
31:44
about Synergy um so I have a video on Synergy if you want to check that out I
31:48
don't remember what the title is but if you look up L Synergy you'll probably
31:52
find it more magic than or apple wishes their mouse was this magic or something
31:56
like that something like that yeah it's kind of weird but if you look up Synergy
31:59
it's like a pendant on the end of the title I believe so you can check that out yeah Synergy is a software download
32:04
tool that solves the problem of having like a few different computers in one
32:09
area hooked up to a few different monitors with a few different sets of
32:12
keyboards and mice you can keep the same amount of computers and the same amount
32:16
of monitors but just one set of keyboard and mouse and have your keyboard and
32:20
mouse automatically transfer between all
32:23
the screens no matter what the uh OS is you can go Linux to Windows to Apple
32:28
whatever the heck you want and it supports drag and dropping of files and
32:31
all this other kind of stuff which is super cool um they have different tiers
32:36
of options they have a basic option and a pro option uh it's a one-time payment
32:40
for Lifetime access which is which is pretty dope actually pretty damn cool
32:45
yeah they have clipboard sharing even drag and drop like I already said you
32:48
can set up hot keys to transfer your stuff over you can also have it so like
32:52
the the method that I like is that when you get to the barrier between two
32:57
systems so if I have like a a Windows PC with two monitors and then a Linux PC
33:01
with two monitors uh the monitors that are on the
33:05
say Windows PC the barrier between those is fine it just passes right through it
33:09
normally like it always would but the second you get to the Linux PC it will
33:14
give a little bit of a stutter so it'll pause right at the end and then if I
33:17
keep pulling my mouse then it'll jump through I like that just so that it
33:20
doesn't jump all over the place too easily uh but yeah you can set all that
33:24
up yourself or you can just hotkey yourself over so you can get there and
33:27
then jump with your keyboard if you want to be more efficient that's also cool as
33:30
well um you can get it for 50% off which
33:35
is actually a pretty intense discount at ses.com simless simless seamless
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seamless s seamless sure it's sy ym so
33:44
there we go but seamless makes the most sense.com
33:47
Synergy Linus 18 which is also right
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below me right here so there 50% off of a product that
33:56
you have for your whole life is pretty cool kind of dank now we're
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going to move to Comic Bento comic Bento is your original comic
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book subscription box um there's at least $50 of value in each box in terms
34:11
of comic books um each box comes with four or five graphic novels it's 25
34:17
bucks a month or less depending on the plan that you select there's monthly uh
34:22
themes like gnarly 90s and out of retirement this one is girl power I
34:26
believe so this one one is girl power
34:29
and you get a nice little uh kind of info card that tells you gives you like
34:34
kind of a synopsis of all of the books that come in it and uh yeah shows you
34:40
everything cool yeah they have a bunch of different books in here one of them
34:44
is Marvel um they say it's one of
34:47
Marvel's most exciting new teams so there's damsels in excess which is this
34:53
one here just pass and because the world still needs Heroes
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Champions change the world this is the Marvel one it looks like there's like a
35:03
Hulk like person and some X-Men like people in
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there and uh the vampire
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Huntress she actually looks just kind of like badass yeah y uh Wonderland Clash
35:18
of Queens that's uh you know it's a deck of
35:25
cards and uh I I can aano this one just
35:29
looks like this one looks like she like messes people up yeah like like that's a
35:33
pretty insane like axe thing that she's got going on Legit AF
35:38
messes here oh it's really hard to point
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like this but right about there it's hard to see on that camera but she has
35:45
like a crazy like scy looking axe thing which is pretty cool uh it's this this
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this weeks months is four soft covers
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and one hard cover which is actually pretty cool cool
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um if you use offer code LT you can save $7 off of your purchase over at
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combo.com one second have to sneeze
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bless you in advance come on it's not
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happening this is so frustrating also the last one it didn't happen so we're
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good is fresh books uh freshbooks is a super simple easy to use accounting
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software Cloud accounting software actually which is pretty cool it helps
36:22
you track your time with the time sheet function you can manage your expenses by
36:26
just taking pictures of your seips and bring it into the uh system which is
36:31
pretty cool I can take care of this guy um all
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right and if I jump back here it does a
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ton of stuff we used it for scrapyard Wars to be able to keep track of how
36:44
much money we had left as we were buying parts along the way which was actually
36:48
very helpful even outside of a sponsor standpoint it was just very helpful if
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tree no escalations no return calls you just call them you get a person that's
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it just answers which is pretty fantastic all their functionality of
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their desktop app is also in their mobile app as well they understand that
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business people are often on the go these days which is cool it makes sense
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yeah freshbooks.com techtips enter the W show in the how did you hear about a
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section and there you go free trial sounds good the mobile thing is actually
37:59
really cool cuz you don't want to like lug around a bunch of extra crap that you don't need necessarily well makes it
38:04
so your whole business is just in here yeah super is like actually pretty neat
38:08
cuz now almost everything else is just in here as well so there fresh
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build it beautiful wait what there's a rumor that auss colorful
38:23
and MSI are releasing gpus for mining
38:26
this was posted on video cards I'm not
38:30
that surprised with the sheer amount of
38:34
like lack of GPU stock that has been going on lately no AMD cards are
38:39
anywhere because they're just sold out all over the place which is great for
38:43
them that's Perfecto right now um and
38:46
it's starting to dip into the NVIDIA stuff as well but I think they've got just more stock of various things yeah
38:51
like wasn't this sort of already a thing is it just ASUS is it just that there's
38:55
more people doing it or is it like a well there was like weird like minor
38:59
appliances and stuff that you could get but these are specific gpus that they're
39:03
targeting for it okay so they're saying it's an NVIDIA p
39:07
106-100 with 6 gigs of DDR gddr5 uh GPU boost clock of 1708 MHz
39:13
memory clock of 8,000 192bit memory interface fairly standard in terms of
39:18
that it's like a 1060 I don't see any
39:23
actual pictures it says it's based on the GTX 1060 yeah yeah Expedition
39:29
series but I don't see any actual pictures about
39:33
them it's kind of interesting apparently
39:36
they're going to be more efficient than normal GeForce cards in cryptocurrency
39:40
by about 30 to maybe 10% depending on
39:44
the skew so that's fairly major especially if they're priced the same
39:48
yeah so if this is priced the same as a
39:52
1060 yeah I don't know I'm I'm curious
39:55
if like this is going to be a consumer thing or if you have to like buy like is
40:00
this are you going to be able to go to New Egg and buy a p1061 100 or is this
40:06
that's the graphics engine so they they'll call it something else okay um
40:10
but yeah so apparently they're also making versions on p104 100 which would
40:14
be based on like GTX 1080 1070 design so
40:17
they probably sell more of those yeah but I'm I'm just curious if this is
40:21
something that like say you're just a person more consumer focused yeah you're
40:25
just a person who wants to have a minor rig in their garage can you just go buy
40:29
one from New Egg or do you need to contact ASUS and go through like a bunch
40:33
of rig andar to get one it kind of looks like you'd be able to just go buy it
40:37
from neck um because they look like gamer
40:41
design they look like end user cards yeah for sure they don't look like just
40:45
rack cards that have the most basic shroud on it they can put these are
40:48
stylized but I thought the whole point
40:51
of these was that they didn't have display outputs so is
40:55
that apart from the missing DVI connector okay yeah so this is a like we
41:00
think it will look like this concept I I doubt it'll be that gamering personally
41:05
but you never know I was expecting more along the lines of this yes that's my
41:11
assumption was something closer to a Founders Edition look
41:14
yeah but maybe not it's interesting this could be a smart move if ethereum keep
41:19
keeps up for a little while this could be a smart move especially cuz they're
41:23
not rebuilding the wheel they're just kind of retooling a few cards and
41:27
releasing them oh yeah like I think it's a really smart move from the manufacturer's perspective it just
41:31
depends on what availability looks like how the pricing shakes out and like is
41:37
there going to be resale value in these yeah like cuz right now if people will
41:42
know that they were used for mining yeah they'll know that they were used for mining and there if there are no display
41:48
outputs then you can't sell them to somebody who just wants a gaming card so
41:52
that's good for the for the used Market in that sense because then you won't be
41:56
going to Craigslist and buying an rx580 and being like oh did somebody mine with
42:00
this I don't know probably like am I going to be able to game on it for a
42:03
long time I don't know um but yeah if you're if you're buying
42:08
one and let's say you just buy one or two and put them in your uh put them in
42:12
your garage just CU you like to mine and
42:15
it doesn't end up working out or ethereum crashes or whatever it might be
42:19
um can you resell them are you going to get any money for them yeah I don't know
42:24
that's going to be interesting cuz like it's it's not not going to be as searched for for gamers yeah cuz Gamers
42:30
going be looking for specific names for other different cards well and it's and
42:34
people will know that it was used for mining well and the cards don't have display outs yeah so you can't use it
42:39
for gaming well I wonder if you could use it as
42:43
like no cuz it would be a slightly different card I was going to say an SLI
42:47
bridge I was literally yeah just going it's going to be a slightly different card so no uh weird interesting article
42:53
apparently this was posted two hours ago so we didn't have it in the doc but a
42:58
bunch of people just spammed this and I read the URL and it looked interesting
43:01
apparently we're going to jump here now I posted in the chat as well if you guys
43:05
want to see that and other people I'm sure are going to keep on posting it CU it was just posted a lot uh hackers
43:09
reportedly leaked 32 terabytes of Secret
43:14
Windows 10 code Microsoft has declined to comment but to be completely honest
43:19
this was posted 2 hours ago yeah so they
43:22
probably just they're getting their PR people together yeah they haven't like
43:27
it's going to be a long night yeah exactly someone is not sleeping at
43:30
Microsoft or probably an entire team of people are not sleeping at Microsoft
43:34
right now so expect a better statement later on I don't think this is more of a
43:38
decline to comment it's like guys hold on let us figure this out so the files
43:41
include much of the code that Windows 10 uses to work with PC Hardware including
43:44
built-in USB Wi-Fi and Bluetooth drivers um hackers and other Bad actors
43:49
are now free to sift through the data and look for potential vulnerabilities link to Beta archive.com
43:55
a site that seeks to preserve and make public software that would otherwise
43:58
never see the late of day and it appears to be taken from Microsoft starting in
44:02
March wow some people are saying fake news this is a very recent post so take
44:07
this with a grain of salt uh it's only been up for 2 hours Microsoft has
44:11
declined to comment um I'm not
44:14
necessarily saying this is absolutely true someone just linked the um beta
44:19
archive article right now um so apparently the folder itself
44:25
was 1.2 GB size uh contained 12 releases
44:30
each being 100 megabytes uh this is directly from an admin from beta archive
44:35
I'm going to bring this up right now um so he's saying that it is very far from
44:39
the claimed 32 terabytes so yeah some fake news right there that makes sense
44:43
um the registers article said and so did the Business Insider one that we just
44:48
read um he said it cannot possibly cover these core source code which I would
44:52
agree because it's way too small um he's
44:57
saying that first of all let us be clear about a few facts the shared Source kit
45:01
folder did exist on the FTP until this
45:04
article came to light we removed it from our FTP so it's gone off of beta archive
45:08
right now um and listings we currently have no plans to
45:13
restore it until a full review of its contents is carried out and deemed
45:16
acceptable under our rules that's cool I don't know a ton about beta archive but
45:21
that's cool they seem to be doing the right thing there um at this time all we
45:25
can deduct is that the r refers to the
45:28
large Windows 10 release we had on March 24th which if any of this could should
45:35
change we will remove these bills from the FTP and we will happily comply with
45:39
any instructions to do so by Microsoft so they're like hold on don't blame us
45:45
don't blame us we didn't do it please go away
45:48
um yeah I don't know so take all of that with a grain of salt
45:54
Not only was the leak not even remotely
45:57
anywhere near as big as it was claimed
46:01
um but people are still sifting through the data who knows what's actually even going to be there it's an interesting
46:06
thing that there was a leak of Windows 10 code at all it could be all
46:10
completely meaningless garbage and nothing might come from this uh
46:14
Microsoft might go I'm going to punch all you guys in the face and everything
46:18
will get really bad who knows I have no idea um someone in the chat was like
46:22
Windows 11 leaked there we go yes that's that's exactly that's totally what it
46:27
was that's what happened but yeah I would maybe see it
46:31
happens every time partway through the show and then it's just going to be
46:35
completely borked for me for a sec so you're on your own for a moment um but
46:40
yeah I I I would take that entire article softly especially when something
46:45
just gets leaked um maybe wait I think
46:50
it's good someone posted the uh what was
46:53
the name of that site beta beta archive beta archive link right away with an
46:58
administrator from that site talking about it directly that's super cool I'm
47:01
happy that they reacted really quickly uh pulled the stuff that they had are
47:05
reviewing it are actually taking the time to look at things properly I agree
47:09
with all of that so I I just found another link around the to go back way
47:13
back to near the beginning of the show the ethereum crash um and it's pretty
47:18
much what I expected so they said that
47:21
uh it dropped about $296 to low of 10 cents in a matter of minutes almost as
47:25
quickly as it collapsed the price pronounced back uh at 6:25 a.m. on
47:31
Thursday uh ethereum was trading at
47:34
$340 per unit um I wonder how many
47:38
people got purchases in at 10
47:41
cents I don't know but so one of the
47:44
main issues is that the way a lot of
47:47
people have their stuff set up is that it has Auto Sell when the price reaches
47:51
a certain amount so the multi-million dollar order the multi-million dollar
47:55
sell order was the initial drop and then as soon as that dropped a bunch of
47:59
people's triggers happened and they were like oh crap sell now sell now sell now
48:03
so like just not only that initial multi-million dollar uh order but a ton
48:09
of other orders flooded the market um so
48:12
it it triggered 800 stop losses they said and uh yeah that's that's
48:17
essentially what can happen in a in an an unproven Market Per Se or any Market
48:21
really um but yeah that's that's kind of interesting to see that uh something
48:27
like that can happen so quickly cuz like
48:31
if you look at the time graph here I don't have sharing unfortunately but
48:35
it's literally just like a few moments and then it was back up yeah like the
48:38
overall time graph of a few hours that looks like yeah so this is just from the
48:44
span of 2 2:00 p.m. to 400 p.m. it's a
48:47
thin line on this graph as it drops down
48:50
and then goes back up which is pretty cool Nick's going to post a link in the
48:53
chat if you want see I'm not logged in anything he can't so he's totally not
48:57
going to do that but what what site is that on uh that was on Business Insider
49:03
so if you look up Business Insider flash crash explained yeah you will find the
49:08
chart that we're talking about it bounces back up super crazy fast yeah um
49:12
I don't anyone even really bothered to stop
49:15
mining because it was so fast it was
49:18
literally a matter of like a moment it
49:21
hit a huge amount of news places um but
49:25
yeah ends up being not really that big of a deal so that's probably a good
49:30
thing I guess it's it's driven a lot of interest in the computers area it's
49:34
driven a lot of interest into how to do all this kind of stuff and it's driven a
49:38
lot of purchases of graphics cards which is going to help AMD which is fantastic
49:41
cuz like especially AMD cards are just gone which is great that's cool someone
49:45
in chat says this was the one one exchange stop talking about it like it's
49:48
Global okay I'll stop talking about it like it's Global it was on one exchange
49:54
sorry bro it's still kind of a big deal
49:57
it's still interesting and significant yeah uh give us one
50:03
second okay another interesting topic
50:06
ASUS releases xg- c00 c a 10 gig Nick
50:14
for under $100 it's $99 so it's
50:17
essentially $100 but uh it is it is
50:20
technically under $100 which is pretty
50:24
sweet I got him already byebye play a
50:27
um and that's that's great this is
50:31
another thing where like the the more that this price goes down means the more
50:35
that people will buy it means the more the price will be able to go down so
50:39
it's really good that they have this Nick out there it'll be great once these
50:42
are built into boards um I don't know why that random keyboard video is right
50:47
there uh if you could not be there that would be good that's fine um this is
50:52
this is really exciting I'm sure lonus is probably going to jump on these he
50:56
loves his networking stuff um this is a
50:59
10 gig Nick for like almost nothing uh one of the difficult things with a lot
51:04
of these is going to be getting everything in your network that you need
51:07
to have this actually having one or everything in your network that needs to have this actually being compatible with
51:11
one um as in like you can even plug this into it um so yeah but under 100 bucks
51:18
10 gig Nick that makes it so that like I could definitely see many consumers
51:24
being like hm I want just a crazy fast bridge this is like 200 bucks between
51:28
these two computers that's not the end of the world I'll just go ahead and do that yep that's not too bad excuse me
51:35
sorry give me a quick second
51:39
sorry I don't like the fact that people are buying Nicks neither do I I don't
51:42
want to be sold it is it is kind of surprising that
51:48
people are still buying Nicks in 2017 and I don't even mean like the human
51:53
trafficking side of things I mean like actuallyy network interface cards cuz I
51:56
thought like a few years ago oh okay we're like done that now on the consumer
52:00
side of things not that not that okay to be very clear not the Enterprise side of
52:05
things I'm not surprised at all that that's still a thing like multiport like
52:08
four port and more ni sure yeah totally
52:12
um but like when you build out and spec out a computer including a Nick in it
52:16
was like dead for quite a while dead meme yeah and then now like I could
52:21
totally see people doing that I wouldn't think it was that weird to see someone be like here's my configuration for my
52:26
computer and includes a 10 gig neck if they have the hardware everywhere else
52:29
in their Network to support it pretty fancy Dancy um fancy Dancy I
52:36
want to show Floatplane but as this is the only one that can see the other
52:41
stuff I can't really can you work on getting logged into that uh and then
52:46
plug in a thing I can't like to
52:50
this I can't you can't do it here no can
52:53
we can talk about it your phone
52:57
we what use your phone to help you log in uh to this or to this no because it
53:02
would take too much time okay um I also don't have access to the one that you
53:06
think I have access to apparently oh right that makes sense all right never
53:10
mind uh speaking of virtual currency Razer makes a push with a $20 million
53:17
investment which is pretty crazy uh Razer has invested close to $20 million
53:22
in Malaysia based online payment firm m
53:25
o global as part of a push to establish
53:28
its virtual currency for gamers in Asia
53:31
this is their like z vaa z Vault digital wallet and zold Rewards program that you
53:36
guys have maybe heard of um it's it's
53:39
kind of interesting uh Razor's Network combined with that of M Mo will allow
53:45
users to buy its points at over a million
53:48
what at over a million online and retail stores across southeast Asia New Zealand
53:54
and Australia what are these even being used for right now cuz last time I
53:58
looked at it it was like not a lot so I don't know why they would spend that much I think this has to be something
54:03
that's like really big in Southeast Asia
54:07
and that we just have no interest in in North America for some reason like I'm
54:11
curious if maybe there is yeah I mean look Crossfire that's not a super
54:16
popular North American that's like the Korean Counterstrike or something isn't
54:20
it so like I I have a feeling that we just have no perception of of how
54:26
important this is because we don't experience it here I'm not sure if it's
54:29
perhaps due to like uh a lack of availability of of credit cards to some
54:34
people or something like that but it seems like um currency cards and stuff
54:38
like that are a lot more uh a lot more
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widely used in Southeast Asia and these countries that they're targeting with
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this investment compared to over here in the states yeah like Mech Warrior online
54:50
War Thunder Crossfire Smite I don't know if this is Arc age or
54:55
Arch age arcage yeah arcad
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yeah yeah yeah I I guess it's
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interesting that they bought a company that big to run this yeah I don't know
55:08
but they just must be pumping huge sorry who did they buy M Mo online oh yeah
55:12
almost $20 million that's kind of yeah that's insane earn Z silver pay with Z
55:19
gold so are they just trying to go up against like nexxon or whatever I guess
55:23
that's interesting isn't Nexon like one of the bigger ones so Z silver this I
55:28
think this is what I knew of cuz you can get like the the razor mug holder and
55:32
the mouse and stuff like that Z gold was the one that I wasn't fully aware of cuz
55:38
Z silver like you just need huge ridiculous amounts of it but then you
55:41
can get some like razor Hardware stuff which is cool I guess yeah but Z gold is
55:47
something entirely different yeah so it's just like another digital currency
55:50
I guess I'm sure there's people in the twitch chat who use this and know about
55:55
it Z razor mug holder yeah RGB mug
55:58
holder it's actually pretty neat I'm just going to put that out there it is
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pretty cool um Ed has
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one I'll take one twitch pleas oh mol points
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yeah I love twitch chat it's interesting
56:16
I sold someone someone in chat Linux source code leak LOL JK I sold Razer for
56:22
$450 and bought Z Vault for $500 I don't even know what that means
56:27
but I love it cool good job yeah heck
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yeah moving on U this is titled valve
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gives Oculus the finger with five finger controller um little little bit of a
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sensational title that we have from the internal title people but what up man
56:45
this is mine he's wondering if you want more oh no I'm good thank
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you um so this this we've seen this before I've even talked about it on the
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wow before but I guess this is like an official hey look from from valve which
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is cool they have a middle finger cap sense ring finger cap sense and pinky
57:05
finger cap sense which is cool that's a lot of different sensing locations
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innerface button outer face button these are these on the outside if you can see
57:13
my mouse pointer here can I uh
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Zoom uh it's going to Auto I'm going to get rid of this sweet there we go so the
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outer face buttons are like this one here and this one here you have the
57:25
trackpad in the middle still system button right there still not too surprising and then a lot of the sensory
57:30
stuff will go around like this part of your hand which is kind of cool it looks
57:35
much more similar to um the Oculus
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controller than I would probably say the Vive controller but it kind of looks
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like an extended version yeah the part
57:47
before the ring yeah they get rid of the ring that part still kind of sits in
57:52
your hand yeah and then it the the ring part instead of being a ring on the end
57:56
kind of wraps around the back of your hand instead which is kind of interesting but that's that's sensory
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stuff for all of your fingers cuz there's trigger and then there's the
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three fingers that you're using to hold the controller which all have indep
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individual uh cap sense there's the
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trigger like I already mentioned and then the trackpad the outer face button
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and the system buttons so it can tell where all your fingers are all the time
58:20
which is that is super cool actually really good for immers very immersive oh
58:25
yes it's extremely imersion much wow much wow much wow
58:30
that's a dead meme uh speaking of VR
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Google VR um YouTube new VR format uh I
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don't know this is almost certainly not going
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to be heavily targeted at desktop tethered VR experiences like Rift and
58:48
five I think they're more expecting people with like the Daydream Daydream
58:53
cardboard if that's really a popular thing stillar gear that kind of stuff
58:58
even yeah their demo video of it is like here's a phone using the slowmo
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guys is uh with a phone and daydream Al
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so it's 180 it's not 360 that's interesting but
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it sort of makes sense yeah if you're sitting down on the couch or whatever
59:16
yeah creators can shoot the videos using any camera with a vr10
59:21
certification Google's Daydream team is working with three companies
59:28
it's I mean it's kind of neat
59:31
um filmmakers will no longer have to hide behind trees I don't think this is
59:36
an extremely freeing thing for filmmakers I don't think this is going
59:39
to be very widely used you would be extremely uh narrowing your audience and
59:45
then the whole video would have to have been shot this way so it's going to be a
59:48
lower quality experience for everyone else yeah that isn't viewing in VR it's
59:53
a cool thing it's a cool feature to have on the platform for sure
59:57
um but I don't know it's it's one of those things that is really one of the
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huge limiting factors of VR in general right and that in order for someone to
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create like a truly immersive and amazing experience they have to in some
60:14
ways like fall on the sword um and just
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be like I am executing my Creative
60:20
Vision for this game to be VR and I know
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it's not going to sell that many units and it would sell a lot more if I
60:27
designed it not for VR yeah like someone
60:30
someone it's been brought up in the chat a few times now like buy one of these
60:33
certified cameras and do a build log with it or do a build guide with it or
60:37
do something like that and I hear you I personally think that would be really
60:41
interesting but the amount of people that could actually um watch that would
60:48
end up hurting that video so much that I
60:52
don't think it would do well that could be an interesting test thing for us to do though
60:56
yeah if we did a 180° VR build guide
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have it be like the only VR computer build guide that there is and like if if
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we got like a chest mounted camera or something like that so you could see
61:10
around the table all the time or if it just like hovered above the table so you
61:14
could kind of look around I'm not sure about positioning of the camera for a build guide that's another thing like
61:18
once you actually start breaking it down I don't know how much of a benefit
61:22
there is for a build guide to be in v
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um because it would still be a fixed Point camera so it's not like you could
61:30
lean your head into the computer it's not like you could lean your head to the
61:34
other side of the computer it's one fixed Point camera um yeah it's 180 not
61:45
360 Channel Super Fun that's a little bit more applicable but then that's a
61:50
lot of uh work for a channel super lot of investment for a channel that doesn't
61:53
do very well yeah just to be
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yeah like like the second you try to get um Luke will you make a VR porn review
62:02
no but apparently that's like a huge
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amount of the content on the Oculus subreddit now I keep on going like on my
62:10
Reddit account looking around scrolling through um I follow like different Tech
62:15
reddits and all this kind of stuff and I keep on saying not safe for work posts and I'm like what the heck even is this
62:21
I don't see any up there right now no I don't see any up there right now but it's fairly common fake news Luke tell
62:26
you man fairly common erroneous fake new
62:29
and I I get it it it makes sense that it would be good for that it's just I don't
62:33
know it's not my thing
62:38
um Tesla creating its own music streaming service that there's a rumor
62:42
for that I just like what I don't know why they would do that how could okay
62:48
here's my thing how could it possibly be more cost effective to go out and build
62:54
this thing and build relationships with all these different record labels and
62:58
pay licensing fees to all these different record labels and pay people
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to pay licensing fees to all these different record labels and pay people
63:05
for support when this stuff goes wrong and pay developers and pay these people
63:09
and those people how could it be more cost effective to do all of that than to
63:12
just go to Spotify and be like yo dog um we want to get like a a thing so just
63:17
like we'll pay you some money and we'll use Spotify and then it's
63:21
good which they already offer Spotify like directly through their so I I I did
63:26
read one compelling thing where a lot of record labels are concerned with Spotify
63:31
getting a monopoly on the market so they are willing to offer competitors to
63:36
Spotify better deals and stuff like that in order to like maintain the like
63:41
competitive nature of the market and all that stuff but like from a pure dollar
63:46
standpoint I don't understand the move by Tesla but then again Tesla is one of
63:51
many companies of Elon Musk that has a history of not making any money at
63:55
anything that they do for a number of years and then everyone just going holy
63:59
crap this is super dope and becoming super successful anyway so maybe I'm
64:02
just again I'm probably just stupid and don't understand it would make sense to
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me if what they were offering was and I
64:10
know this is part of their plan they plan on having a multi-tiered service where they have uh like radio like
64:15
things I think they said like Pandora and also Spotify like things on their
64:20
own service if they just had a radio like service that they offered as a
64:25
default through the car right away and then you
64:28
can like yeah pick a platform after that
64:32
I could see that making some amount of sense because radio like would be much
64:36
easier for them to spin up someone says it's it's about the Tesla AI te I mean
64:40
maybe this is just a very shallow look at what they're trying to do maybe
64:45
they're trying to create you know a system that recognizes where you're
64:49
driving on the road and what the road conditions are like and what what music
64:52
would be suited for that and your yes your speed in theic in your personal
64:56
preferences and take all these factors maybe they take like heart rate through the steering
65:00
wheel so again maybe I'm stupid and
65:03
freaking the heck out maybe they start playing more calming music they're like hey dude chill hey that's there going to
65:09
be okay don't crash the car as usual there are a lot of people smarter than
65:13
me in the world that probably have all this stuff figured out already so that could be pretty interesting it could be
65:18
a lot more interesting than I'm giving it credit for like it notices that um
65:22
all of a sudden like one or two times a week there's a person of a certain
65:27
weight profile that sits next to you and you drive a little bit slower and you
65:31
tend to go to like a restaurant and like one other activity and it's like okay
65:35
I'm going to start playing more romantic music I'll make this work I'm going to
65:40
help you out it's it's Seas your car becomes your wingman you leave a
65:43
restaurant at like 11:00 p.m. it starts playing like Berry
65:49
White you you you end up going to a uh a
65:53
residential address before going home so so it plays like a different music to
65:58
try to like cheer you up
66:01
yeah it's like no man it'll be okay this actually sounds pretty cool now that
66:05
we're now that we're talk yeah now that I I'm I'm not being closed-minded about
66:09
it it sounds kind of interesting yeah we'll see what they actually do with it
66:13
um I I tend no one listens to Barry White anymore says you hey you know the
66:19
car would probably know the age of the person driving it and find like romantic
66:25
applicable music to that age group as well mhm so it's everything will be fine
66:30
but I don't want Bumblebee as my wingman well unless you drive a yellow Camaro
66:35
you won't have bumble bees I think I think with that we might
66:40
be kind of done I think I think that's the show ah
66:45
there's the power hungry RX Vega is the
66:49
uh title of this
66:52
one MSI RX why did it auto scroll to the
66:55
bottom of the page MSI saying damn RX Vega needs a lot
67:01
of power you know what that's probably
67:04
fine because power supplies of large capacities haven't really been needed
67:08
for a while now so we're just giving them a reason of course's like please
67:12
please Let Us sell more ax1200 I please
67:16
AMD can Vega please take a lot of power it would help so much U apparently the
67:21
frontier boards which again like these are not the most most consumer facing
67:26
boards ever um but as the power
67:29
consumption I don't think anyone expected it to be lower than Frontiers
67:32
which has a board power of 300 WTS air cooled or 375 liquid cooled Edition so
67:39
yeah these things yeah they they can they can take the powers there's really
67:43
not again there's not a lot to say here this not a super news heavy week um but
67:49
we'll see once we get them we do power testing of like all the stuff that comes
67:54
through here in terms of cards so you guys will know how much power it takes once it shows up in different load
67:58
scenarios which will be good um but yeah
68:02
I don't know most computer internal components have been taking less and
68:06
less and less and less and less power for a really long time so it's probably
68:10
fine I know a lot of people out there that only have like a 500 WT power
68:13
supply and barely even use it I don't think it really matters if you take up 200 extra Watts cuz most people who have
68:18
bought PCS in the last few years have probably bought psus that are way too
68:22
big yeah way too big for their for their needs
68:26
it will probably be fine um should we talk a bit about Floatplane without
68:29
showing it before the end of the show we can do you know what videos are on there
68:33
right now I can I can maybe jump on real quick and look without showing you guys
68:37
so there is uh we checked out the cheapest motherboard we could find on uh
68:42
on Amazon um oh I'm already logged into the right account hey let's go here we
68:49
go so this is flow plane we can see on Tech rookie why can't you use your
68:53
phones on planes let's check this out right now look at
68:57
lonus he wants to use his thing but he's like uh can I I don't
69:01
know whoa that's new hey good job Dennis
69:06
I don't think we've green screened like an actual actually that might have been
69:09
while Dennis was in Taiwan so good job whoever did that oh it's gone it's gone
69:13
now I kind of liked it that's fine is that a paintball
69:17
gun why would it that's weird anyways
69:20
moving on uh LT old people are the worst technology
69:25
then versus now this is actually people like this so far it's hilarious I I'm in
69:30
it as uh both an ant and a grandpa yeah
69:34
which will be explained once you watch the video it's on full plane you can check it out right now Luke is Linus's
69:39
Dad yeah officially that happen Luke is
69:43
Linus's dad confirmed on stream I am Linus's daddy daddy daddy such a weird
69:50
word it is it is uh the cheapest
69:53
motherboard on the market we played games on it which is cool that was that
69:56
was an interesting video I checked that out there's uh say hello to the float
70:00
playe club float playe blog number one which I actually I guess you know what
70:04
I'll show this real quick I'm going to jump into here this is a sneak peek at
70:10
what is going to be the front page of the website once we actually launch the
70:14
website so uh in the actual text in here
70:18
I talk about all what the different sections look like and what we're
70:21
planning for those sections and how everything's going to work and yada Yad
70:25
y um and there will be more blog posts
70:28
like that in the future I have already started writing next week's which will
70:32
be like a more succinct like what the heck actually is float playing Club so I
70:37
think it'll be good to have something that I can actually link people to uh
70:41
instead of trying to reiterate what it is every single time uh we have a tech
70:44
quickie on core I 9 fast as possible that might already be on YouTube
70:48
actually um uh potentially no it's coming to
70:53
YouTube on Monday cool yeah cool there's
70:56
a bunch of stuff Flo plane is cool if you want to see what is going to be on
71:00
YouTube next week this week you can get
71:04
on fling Club right now someone says please tell me you aren't making a
71:07
scroll website um a scroll website so
71:10
they're saying like a onepage no super
71:14
not no don't worry your pretty little head about it that entire thing that you
71:17
just saw okay I'm going to I'm going to that's like the like intro to that is
71:21
the whole that is the whole front page that's it I wouldn't call it the front
71:26
page cuz that's not what like people see when they l in that's a good call so
71:30
this whole thing that you can see right now the introduction page which like
71:33
this is the top part of it and then this is the bottom part of it and that's
71:37
that's that's it that's the whole page is just the introduction page this is
71:42
the front page that you see if you are not logged into the website once you are
71:46
logged into the website you will see whatever creators you follow and their
71:50
most recent posts or videos or whatever um this is just shown if you don't know
71:55
what the heck the website is uh it's split into two parts which is like the
72:01
login kind of area at the top which is the biggest part because we expect if
72:05
you dump here that you're probably just looking to log in because if you're
72:10
going to the website and you don't already have an account you're probably going to the website from a creators
72:15
link because Flo plane is about the creators
72:18
not really just it's not about Discovery yeah um so we don't really expect people
72:23
to land here unless they're trying to log in so the main big areas are like
72:26
right here which is the learn more which
72:29
would just jump you down or start watching which is like the big one
72:33
because it's like hey this is supposed to be easy and bright to click on
72:36
because this is what we want people actually doing uh a Creator search area
72:40
and then just information at the bottom that's it not not a not a one pager so
72:45
to comment on a couple things in chat uh Nikki V office takeover yes that is also
72:50
y there right now um it's actually pretty pretty funny and uh the ending it
72:56
gives you the feels like the real feels like the the the feels te feels um
73:02
somebody asks where is Linus's d-wave video so with many things like the
73:07
d-wave video um when we're going behind the scenes and checking out like the you
73:12
know sensitive information of a company in many ways um we have to get approval
73:16
on all that stuff so it has already been edited it's been sent off to the brand
73:20
they checked it out they gave us some feedback we're implementing that feedback and then it'll hopefully be com
73:24
to Floatplane next week um one more thing are we yeah the
73:29
uh quantum computer company yeah yeah the quantum computer company um somebody
73:33
asks are we getting new payment options you can stay tuned on that I am we are
73:37
working on it working on that a lot and trust me it sucks yeah that
73:44
industry sucks yes so very much so
73:48
working on it it's not there yet but we're working on it and it'll be there
73:52
by the time that we get the the real the real site up and everything um yeah I
73:58
think that's that's that's that's that's probably it check out Floatplane it's
74:02
been a fun time over there how can we pay for Floatplane uh currently just
74:06
PayPal right right now PayPal uh once the site is live we plan on having more
74:10
ways I know a lot of people in chat have been saying accept Bitcoin can you take
74:15
Bitcoin um we'll probably look into that
74:18
we'll see we'll see there are some options that the the main first hurdle
74:22
that we're trying to get over is not just being PayPal yes so we're trying to
74:27
figure out well Nick again is mainly trying to figure out um how to use how
74:33
to be able to accept other things should I like talk about some of the boring
74:37
busy things about it like why it's hard sure so one of the main issues is that
74:43
there are like there's payment gateways which are the things that accept credit
74:48
cards and debit cards and all that stuff and then there are subscription
74:51
management tools as well and sometimes
74:54
pay gateways have subscription management tools integrated into them but sometimes they don't sometimes they
74:59
don't but if you do that then you're essentially locking yourself into using
75:04
that payment Gateway Forever unless you
75:07
want all of your users to have to re-enter all of their information when
75:11
you move to a new one so it's like a massive thing that we're trying to
75:15
figure out because it literally could affect Floatplane for the life of it
75:20
whatever that ends up being hopefully a number of years um
75:25
so that's that's why payment stuff is taking so long because it's a huge thing
75:31
and it's something that I am not personally super familiar with and I'm
75:34
learning a lot about as we go so uh me neither yeah it's it's it's messy it's
75:40
been a learning experience for all I hate PayPal use stripe we're looking
75:43
into stripe we're looking into like we're looking into brain tree we're
75:46
looking into stripe we're looking into a bunch of different ones lots of lots of
75:50
lots of different stuff Luke looks sad I am not sad it's just it's really hot in
75:55
here right now it's like yeah I'm like a little and
76:00
and the the payment Gateway thing maybe makes me a little sad it's been a it's
76:05
been a quite a process where is dead mouse once again um when there
76:10
are that's why people have been saying dead mouse okay when there are large
76:14
celebrities at play as I would say dead mouse is very much a large there's a lot
76:18
of hands on the video there are hands on the video there are hands on rights
76:22
releases and image releases and Etc ET ET that we're working through so um that
76:27
video is coming soon um TM um but yeah it it'll be there soon
76:33
and I've seen it a couple times now and it is really freaking cool that dude has
76:37
like the coolest life have to say like
76:41
super badass and he's Canadian yeah but
76:44
here's here's a sneak peek his garage is a Tim Horton
76:49
storefront he like bought the whole thing didn't he like what just for fun
76:54
like what can he get Tim Hortons there no he should hire like a storefront he
76:59
should hire like a barista person he
77:02
could do it I mean he he definitely could he should franchise a Tim Horton
77:07
on his property oh my God and like still have his property so other people can't
77:11
come on it but he should franchise the Tim Hortons there so that so that just
77:15
he can have Tim Hortons somebody says Tim Hortons question mark exclamation
77:19
mark do you really not know what Tim Hortons is or are you just stoked can we
77:24
pay with germanium what is that isn't it
77:28
like an element who's who's Tim
77:31
Horton Shame Shame every Canadian shames
77:34
you shame anyways I think we're done with
77:37
the show for now later thank you for coming by
77:41
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weekend the wrong button
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nro
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why what do you do for a living I'm dead Mouse's personal
78:13
Barista that would be sick though yeah
78:16
it would be it would be interesting what do you do I make a coffee and scones and
78:20
donuts and Timbits for uh for dead mou
78:23
one one dude dead mou and uh the other people that work in his
78:27
house to be fair he probably like consumes as much coffee as 10 people and
78:31
there's like also everyone else that works in his house there's like the
78:34
essentially permanent residence a bunch of people yeah dude has like I don't
78:39
know dude has so much going on it's insane lots and lots of people I'm going
78:44
to be streaming tonight if you guys want to come by and hang out I'll just be
78:48
playing play ons Battlegrounds which is all I do with my life now these
78:52
days um
78:55
I had something else to say and I don't remember what it was but anyways have a
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good one bye