Do Beats Headphones Still SUCK?

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2019-05-06 · 3,310 words · ~16 min read
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0:00 step into my office lonis take a look at my Wares yeah I'm pretty sure I'm the
0:03 one who paid for them okay so here's what happened we were going to review
0:08 the Microsoft Surface headphones because we were intrigued Microsoft wait a
0:12 second you didn't even pay for these they sent them to us okay these ones yes
0:17 I paid for other ones and these well I paid for these which hurt as much as
0:21 paying for all the other ones combined yes okay so basically what happened was
0:25 we were going to review these and Microsoft sent us a review sample two
0:30 three weeks after everyone else's reviews were already up and we were like okay we need a new angle so we're going
0:35 to turn it into a four-way Roundup of
0:39 the premium noise cancelling over
0:42 headphones on the market this time not failing to include Sony's offering the
0:49 wh1000x M3s so James has prepared sort
0:53 of a a blind taste test of sorts I guess
0:56 you only need your ears though if you were blind would it matter no it
1:01 wouldn't and you know what else wouldn't matter if you guys listened to this
1:05 message from our
1:20 sponsor I want to unbox these ones no you have okay so each of us will start
1:25 with one of the sort of wellestablished players okay well I mean I guess
1:29 arguably this is is well established but maybe not with our audience so much so
1:32 I've got the Sony wh 1000x M3s and I
1:36 have the Bose Qui Comfort 35s version 2's Google Assistant these are similar
1:41 but yours is kind of nicer I like this this has got like kind of a crush
1:45 resistant that presses quite a bit yeah this divider actually serves a couple of
1:49 purposes you have one of these though uh yeah actually oh and you can see you can
1:55 actually see what's in yours Sony's done a good job of their case here so it
1:58 holds your you got your air airplane adapter yeah mine are just sitting in
2:01 there you've got your 3 and 1/2 mm Jack in case you're a caveman and your phone
2:05 still has one of those on it you've got I don't like how short this cable is but
2:09 check this out USB type-c charging on
2:13 the Sony love that everything USB type-c
2:17 all the things
2:22 please it's all it's equally short uh
2:25 but it's also micro okay let's do uh let's open up the
2:30 beats and the and the surface I'm expecting this to be like the greatest
2:35 unboxing experience of all time because
2:38 from what I've heard about the headphones themselves it better be the
2:41 greatest unboxing experience of all time I've got it upside down I got
2:46 this I'm expecting steam to come out no
2:49 change the way you hear sound to make
2:53 these headphones sound better okay I'm being a jerk I'm being a
2:58 jerk I actually haven't tried headon in a long In fairness it's pretty robust
3:03 feeling it doesn't have like an actual reinforcement no it's not low profile
3:08 you can actually see like compared to the Sony it is quite a lot thicker and
3:12 same goes actually for everyone everyone else well these guys went with the wider
3:18 flatter ooh do these even fold though
3:22 they don't fold what they don't fold
3:25 what uh okay so I just get this cable
3:28 okay so 3 and 12 m and I just what throw it in there 3 and mil oh but I do get a
3:34 nice long charging cable micro
3:38 b USBC nice and then I get a carabiner
3:44 industrial design wise I would say these are like the dad hat of headphones what
3:49 dad hat he doesn't understand that Dad hats are in I mean I just mean they're
3:54 not that flashy or modern they're kind of the standard they still look great
3:58 matte black is always a good idea and honestly you're no more
4:03 dad hat than these yeah I am those are smoother one thing that stands out about
4:07 these to me is you hear that that's
4:11 brutal nice swiveling ear cups though and same here one thing they've done
4:16 well is look how deep the cushioning on the top bar is squeeze
4:21 mine yeah actually not not impressed
4:24 with that said but everyone knows bows are comfortable over long periods yes
4:27 they are and part of it is that they they grip R the side of your head a little bit more I feel like these are
4:32 relying a little more on the top headbands than the qc35s do I think it
4:37 is just the way these seal around your ear and kind of grab onto your head but it's not uncomfortable they've basically
4:41 got it perfect all right this is what I'm really curious about though cuz I've
4:45 tried those I've encountered these before these are heavier did you see
4:50 that though there is almost no padding on the headband that click that's
4:55 satisfying they nailed that these don't fold at all oh a nice headband though
4:58 basic ratchet no swivel yeah I feel do
5:02 the air ear cups do a bit right not much not really yeah barely when you take
5:06 them off you want them to go on your shoulders level and stuff like that oh
5:10 you seem like the kind of person who actually used to wear overthe ear
5:14 headphones in public these don't go as big as the
5:17 other ones either see they didn't get the they didn't get the cage Force right
5:22 I feel like those aren't really even over ear they're like somewhere between
5:25 on ear and over ear my ears touched the drivers and it's like just a hard
5:29 plastic that's a real bummer and that over time that can be uncomfortable
5:33 really nice foam on the ear cups though although I don't know if it's quite as
5:37 nice as the Sony's Sony's have just like this
5:40 spectacular memory foam on here I'd be more comfortable at the office with
5:44 those than on the bus if you're trying to get laid this is the these are what
5:48 you need headband a little bit on the skinny
5:53 and not padded enough side for me but I think they've done a better job of the
5:56 clamping pressure oh we haven't tried any headbang tests
6:00 give me like
6:05 a all those are done already
6:09 whoa not bad they hold pretty well give me these hold
6:14 on okay that's Bose clear
6:19 Victory okay Sony won I would say Bose
6:23 next say Bose two uh tie for third then
6:27 cuz I don't think either of them really stands out to me so the second ranking
6:30 is feel and comfort and we're going Sony Bose in
6:35 first then surface then beats and then
6:39 for the headbang test clear ass
6:43 Victory um everyone else fail tied for
6:47 second I'm calling all the others a fail so we can go with that if you want
6:51 whatever so right now what we're testing is interacting okay so play pause skip
6:56 go back turn the volume up and down okay so I actually have butt but on the Bose
7:00 up and down for volume and then you double click this to go forward triple
7:03 click to go back single click for play and pause what's new is this button
7:08 which would it's called the action button you can toggle between noise
7:11 cancelling on noise cancelling off or you can use it to activate the Google
7:16 assistant so one tap will the Google Assistant will tell you your notifications and stuff and if you hold
7:20 it down you're going to summon the assistant and then you can talk cool as
7:24 for oh wait wait wait wait there's one more thing only the bows have this and I
7:28 actually think it's huge an actual toggle for on so my navigation is all
7:33 handled via touch then okay so that's volume up is it beeping when you do that
7:37 I can't hear you volume down volume down volume down volume down does it go beep
7:42 yes it does how do you feel I actually don't mind it now there is a physical
7:47 button back here that I just found so that would be for my assistant try a
7:52 double there it
7:55 is okay so with that button you found a the
7:59 back it's the same deal as with the bows where if you don't hook up the Google
8:03 Assistant that's your button for turning on noise cancelling and then ambient and
8:07 then off it toggles through them but if you do hook up the Google Assistant you
8:11 lose that and you use it to hail the assistant so then you have to use your
8:14 app on your phone to turn on the ambient and all that stuff I don't prefer it and
8:18 I'd rather have a physical button personally I tend to agree these I want
8:23 to try the be so this is not capacitive these have buttons so you only get the
8:28 one button so press once to start and stop twice I'm assuming next
8:34 track it's feels really cheap that was what I noticed too it's nice having a
8:39 physical button but that like the sound of it as you're pressing you hear it and
8:43 the feel of it is awful the feel of it is really cheap another one thing you
8:46 can do though allegedly is if you double click and hold you'll fast forward if
8:51 you triple click and hold you'll go back but I couldn't get it to work on my Android phone maybe it works with the
8:55 iPhone or something I think so can you even do volume up and down on this
8:58 here's the be logo there's an outer ring oh there we go but then but then you
9:03 can't use the side right yeah no the sides don't do anything that's so weird
9:08 that's the thing that's always bothered me about Beats why have such a cheap
9:11 button the thing is that apple is literally in my mind anyway the king of
9:17 haptic feedback these are how much 350
9:20 they're all 350 okay can I tried the surfaces no man
9:25 I'm trying the surfaces these I think in my opinion are the Undisputed interface
9:29 Kings check this out the volume is a knob nice it's really smooth to turn and
9:35 then on this side you turn it one way for turning up the noise cancellation
9:39 and you turn it the other way and it turns up the ambient noise oh so totally
9:44 I don't have to go into the app like all the other ones you have to go into the app and set that they also have
9:48 capacitive ear cups for the pausing and seeking but it's both ear cups so you
9:52 can just use either and there's also a mute button on here I do like this
9:57 that's nice e it feels good
10:00 so interface C clear winner for me for the interface yeah oh we should mention
10:06 these also have uh Google assistant and Cortana and Alexa inter integration yeah
10:11 Cortana there's a separate app you can get cortana's dead now though you heard
10:14 about that right what yeah Microsoft admits Cortana and also ran yeah it's
10:19 rough it's rough I'm willing to say I personally I'd give the edge to Bose
10:23 just because I don't like touch interfaces as much but I'm willing to
10:27 say tie here because it comes down a personal preference with the cable that
10:31 comes with it oops oh an inline remote there's
10:35 inline controls I mean do you disagree would you put this above any of the
10:38 other three hell no no all right no no no all right this is the airplane sound
10:44 okay not bad First Impressions wow big
10:49 difference and that my friends is why Bose has so much respect when it comes
10:54 to noise cancellation with that said I'd say the Sony cancellation is damn near
10:59 as good but I don't feel the same pressure on my ears with bow they've
11:03 done such a great job of tuning that my face is like this cuz I just heard the
11:07 music you were playing I Love My Little Pony's music
11:11 definitely weaker I don't think these are even
11:15 working yeah those are that's on yeah that's that's on this is just a much
11:20 less aggressive algorithm that they're using so they're leaving in some of the
11:24 higher pitch of the airplane and they're only taking out the low Rumble but
11:28 that's also why you're not getting that same pressure on the ears that you get
11:31 from the Sony I'd say they're the worst in that regard out of the bunch I don't
11:35 know I think I kind of like the Sony I think even pressure-wise I might prefer
11:41 this just to totally confuse everybody
11:45 okay wait we can do there's one more test sure variable high frequency noises
11:49 like your worst
11:54 nightmare I can really hear them fighting it so in terms of loudness I'd
11:59 say this is about like having the baby about two rows away Sony does less to
12:04 the tonality of the baby cry but probably blocks as much of the raw noise
12:09 I think the baby gets more annoying with the surface
12:12 headphones these are just terrible the noise cancellation on these is not very
12:16 good are they even on yes they're
12:19 on if you have to ask that's not a good sign really oh yeah it's on it just
12:25 sucks that's another clear win for both Bose and Sony in my mind yeah agreed and
12:31 a clear loss for honestly these weren't great either clear loser clear also
12:36 loser third it's not second yeah it's not close it's it's a distant second
12:41 close second well close to third so yeah let's do let's do a quick listen he we
12:46 should listen to the same song though you give me one of your songs I'm I'm
12:49 I'm down I'm down it's pretty crunchy not bad I find the bass a little
12:55 bit more natural sounding on these oh yeah they're they do have a different
12:59 signature but a little smoother I would say they're pretty similar me too
13:05 okay
13:09 withhold I find both of these lacking distinctly in completely different ways
13:15 I find vocals don't really come through very clearly on
13:20 these no Basse no B ironically you would
13:24 think that these had the would have the most overstated bass but it's not even
13:27 like muddy and overpowered just there's just really nothing there um these ones
13:32 I felt I detected a little bit of distortion I couldn't put my finger on
13:36 it um they were clearly not as good as either the Sony's or the Bose but I
13:41 preferred them to the beat I felt that these had a wider Sound Stage uh these
13:45 are a little narrower a little tennier but to be clear I think for a lot of
13:49 people any one of these will be good enough I agree with that I mean given
13:53 that most people are fine with like ear pods like truly the ones that just with
13:59 your head phone yes I I don't think anyone's going to pick up one of these
14:03 for a few hundreds and say oh well the
14:06 sound quality simply I mean you're buying them because they're Wireless you're buying them because they're noise
14:11 cancelling and you're buying them because of the interface or or the
14:15 assistant or whatever other features it is that you care about which is why I
14:19 think honestly when it comes time for the conclusion
14:23 here it's so much more complicated than just like which one sounds the best and
14:28 is the most comfortable because there's a lot to these so why don't you do your
14:32 rankings first and then overall overall
14:35 well I mean sound I think we've got a pretty clear hierarchy don't we once
14:38 again these two are clearly the best if you're a more Discerning listener I'd go
14:42 for either of these then these then
14:45 these okay you know what I'll let you go first for the overall overall the
14:48 overall it's time for overall it's time for the overall overall My overall
14:51 ranking the bow number two the Sony number three and I really like this
14:57 interface but overall number three the these These are good I would still buy
15:00 these the noise cancelling sucks true okay go ahead I'm going to let you
15:04 finish good enough for an office good enough for an office they also don't
15:07 fold so on the go for a plane definitely get these don't buy these ever okay so
15:13 I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to say I'm not even going to rank these two
15:17 so then between these two I mean really
15:20 it comes down to physical buttons versus
15:23 touch interface but then USB type-c oh
15:27 yeah and the fast charging Sony there it is you did it Sony you did
15:32 it don't even bother Sony or if you don't like the Sony get the bows but I
15:37 just I wouldn't even if you can if they're beside each other at Best Buy
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