1080Ti CONFIRMED - WAN Show Feb 24, 2017
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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let see if that all right welcome to the WAN Show where we deploy new ways of
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streaming without actually going ahead
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and um testing the aforementioned new ways of streaming and we are back so um
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since I have a badminton class tonight and I am not going to have time to um do
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a thing where I stitch together the footage we're going to start over so
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this is John hi John went to Duke we
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have a lot of great topics for you today uh what were they right Disney Disney of
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all companies nails free roaming Wireless power delivery I mean Disney I
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can see a few ways they would actually use it to make Star Wars well other than
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that with Star Wars
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technology actual lightsabers the switch
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will not have a virtual console at launch which I guess actually makes a
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fair bit of sense um Microsoft is
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testing underwater data centers and we've going to have all the we're going
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to do a summary of AMD ryzen for those three of you who haven't already heard
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about it and finally we are going to
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reveal a rumor that we can neither confirm nor deny because it's just a
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rumor the source of the rumor we will explain later but apparently allegedly a
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GTX 1080 TI graphics card is set to
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launch next week week more at
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11 and let's roll the
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intro everyone's like shoe on head or
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pre-recorded jokes on you I don't wear shoes I wear
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sandals and I'm wearing slippers yeah should we should do it we should totally
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it okay this video brought to you by Evan
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and also
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so there you have it our proof is entirely unsuitable neither of these are
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shoes and therefore this video is pre-recorded
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H take that twitch chat all right everyone's like where's
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Luke um so actually you know what that would be a great first topic for us to
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jump into because there is a thing that
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is not in the dock so um comments to
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jamesg gravity for managing to miss the
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biggest news of the week the very first
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thing we're going to talk about in our dock here and that is the um what are
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they calling it Cloud bleed yes kind of
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like but Cloud yeah so here we go the
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original article here actually if you don't mind pulling it up I'm having a
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bit of an issue with my uh with my
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laptops oh hold on that might solve it
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yep let's see if that works
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um fnf4 very important okay there we go oh wait do
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you have Cloud bleed up um I don't know I don't think I do I'm trying to what
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you got this you got this just Cloud bleed look at my incredible Bing skills
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wow why are you using Bing because I open why why why do you why do you hate
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finding things John I'm kind of a masochist
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anyway okay so cloud lead is a big
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problem it's like actually disastrous
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and uh pretty much in a nutshell I got
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it I got it I got it you got this I got it okay I don't have my notes on it so
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I'm going to sound like an idiot for a second until I pull up our internal
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things so pretty much what's happening is if you've logged into any Cloud flare
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protected site and there's lots of those for those of you who aren't familiar
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with Cloud flare basically it's like a Dos mitigation mechanism
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that uh websites businesses online services can use to make it more
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difficult for folks TOS them so if you
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logged into any cloudflare protected
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site or submitted any other sensitive information between and this is like a
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fairly significant date range the 22nd
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of September 2016 and the 18th of
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February 2017 there is a chance it's a very small
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chance but there is a chance that your password or that sensitive data may have
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been leaked the bug was most severe
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between the 13th and 18th of February of this year but even so the chance of your
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data have been leaked is very low with that said security security security
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preventative security is better than reactionary security and what you guys
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need to do is go check out some of the
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resources that exist right now about this and uh change and update the
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passwords for the sites and services that you use that have been affected
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immediately like e immediately that's
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like the internet but faster almost almost almost apparently
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this was this was reportedly caused by
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one incorrect character in I don't know how many how many lines of code and what
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essentially happened was my my understanding is that it was a server
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memory dump so lore knows what was in
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the memory of all these websites at any given time so this is why you should
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probably be going and changing your passwords if you have used any of these
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these affected services so even during the greatest period of impact uh so
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February 13th to 18th around 1 in every
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3.3 million HTTP requests through Cloud
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Fair flare potentially would have resulted in memory leakage so that's
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about
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0.003% of requests but with that in mind even that
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tiny percentage is potentially a huge
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problem and the reason for that is that even
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0.003% of the leaks from a mere 770
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sites is 2.5 billion
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requests internet's a big place yeah internet's like internet's like huge
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it's like they have more tubes the most tubes the bigest tubes the bigest tubes
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so many tubes like you can't even you can't even keep track of all the tubes
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it has um so guys go check it
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out um let me just see yeah there's a blog post over on cloud flare I'm going
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to post that in the Forum or in the in the Forum I'm going to post that in the twitch chat so you guys can go check
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that out make sure that you're not uh
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not getting all your you know stuff ruined by having a bad day because
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people stole your information and whatnot all
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right moving on shots fired Google's wh
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Mo Suz Uber so the original article here
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is from RS Technica and you will have to pull it up if you don't mind oh yeah
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there it is look at that way to go Luke streen Luke screen share um alleging
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that they stole trade secrets so Google
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names Anthony levendowski once one of
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its top engineers as the chief suspect in this case now
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this is something that I've personally never really understood that well
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because while it's obvious that if you
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were to take like physical documents off
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of let's say you know a fellow a co-worker's desk and put them under your
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armpit or up your butt crack or wherever
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it is you decide to keep them and you waddle yourself over to another job
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interview and kind of go just like that yeah if you like my face you should see
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what happens when I turn around and pull my pants down um you know like obviously
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that would be considered uh corporate Espionage and in
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this case what they're alleging is that he installed specialized software on his
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corporate laptop loading it with
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14,000 confidential Files about liar
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technology and that while he was at Google he was secretly plotting this
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whole whole thing his next startup Auto
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so then he left Google in January receiving a multi-million dollar
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Severance by the way so it was like here's some Millions buckets of here's
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some buckets of money see you later nice guy that we like then sold that startup
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in August so it's like eight months later for 680 million to
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Uber then a month later Uber unveils its
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plans to bring self-driving cars to Pittsburgh so this looks pretty open and
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shut but uh
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explain to me what the difference is between putting corporate documents on a
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USB key up your butthole and you know
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learning and um developing as a person
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and as a professional and taking your your job skills with you and the
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knowledge you gained to a new employer okay so full disclosure on this I had
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maybe three weeks of trade secret law in
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law school but here's what I can tell you so there's possibly two issues was
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the best three weeks of your life though it wasn't the worst three weeks of my
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life so there's that I had a I had a I
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had a I had a good had a good professor from the University of Kansas actually I
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saw we had a Jayhawks fan somewhere in the Twitter so or not Twitter but twitch chat but so there you go anyway so
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couple ways to look at this so the guy we he was an ex Google employee yeah so
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one thing you can do obviously is when you hire someone you can stick a
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confidentiality agreement front of them and you make them sign it as a condition of employment and you can put in that
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confidentiality agreement you can't do things like take sensitive dots put them
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on USB drives and Jam them up up your butthole you can put that in the contract so so obviously you it's
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probably okay to jam it up his butthole as long as he doesn't then give it to anyone else probably okay yeah I would I
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would assume that their lawyers would be good enough to flush that particular detail out but anyhow so and you know
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obviously this guy was obviously working on something very very important and
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Google is a major company with plenty of money to hire a good legal counsel so he
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probably did did this but even if that never happened and they hired him off
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the street which I'm sure was not the case but let's say they did this and there there was no confidentiality
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agreement they said they just told him oh you're hired you start on Monday even
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so um trade secret law my understanding is it could still in because it has to
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be if it's information that isn't publicly available and there's some sort
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of like possible real economic benefit
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or business benefit to that company and they actually made efforts to protect it
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like Google wasn't being all Loosey Goosey with this information but they
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were actually trying to protect it okay so it's not like how to get to the
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bathroom on the second floor right it's got to be something that's not publicly
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known and might have some sort of real economic value so as long as Google made
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reasonable efforts to protect that then even if he had no agreement saying you
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can't sell this stuff to competitors then they could still go after him in
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court okay so if that's so okay just and
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I'm just curious and again I'm probably digging in a little bit deeper than your three weeks might have covered TR for
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your correspondence law degree or whatever it is no I'm just kidding never
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well well I I didn't end up working here so it's feels like sometimes
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but okay but let me dig a little bit deeper what if he didn't sell it now in
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this case you can make a pretty uh
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pretty easy case for that he sold it
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because he went and started a company that clearly had this information and
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sold the company but what if you just gave it is that is that a different type
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of offense um I don't know if it as far
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as like type I'm not even sure how they characterize that but at the same time
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I'm almost completely certain you still can't do that like obviously I think
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this there's some trade seeker and some like patent stuff going on here I'm not
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sure if they had a patent on any of this stuff or not but but if they let's say
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say there was a patent there um a patent actually excludes other people even from
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making your invention for a set period of time so but some things are
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notoriously difficult to P they are but the other part of that was um so this
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stuff looks more like trade secret than patent right because because a patent
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are publicly available like you can go and you can look at them but you just can't make it or sell it so so um so to
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answer your question I don't think the fact that
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he if he didn't sell it if he didn't sell this stuff I don't think that would
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just completely get him off the hook right and in this case uh I think it was
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n fishing in twitch chat pointed out that we're talking hypotheticals here
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Google is a smart and together enough company that I pretty much guarantee you
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every person who sets foot through that door has signed a piece of paper that
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says something about how you don't steal their stuff um you know let alone high
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ranking Engineers so we we get that but and fish also pointed out that usually
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um some kind of uh why the word has
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escaped me it has been actually a very long week folks um the severance package
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that would usually be accompanied by some kind of agreement as well like
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here's some buckets of money um and you can't do these things for for x amount
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of time after you leave that would be fairly typical so we're pretty sure
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Google has their butts covered here and this is going to end up being a pretty
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uh uncomfortable situation but the other
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sort of possible outcome of this is that he's
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got so many hundreds of millions of dollars that it could end up dragged out
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in court for a very very long time um
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nothing like ly litigation so this is this is a quote from the suit that
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apparently he took this is a quote extraordinary efforts to raid wh's
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design server and then conceal his
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activities and they are alleging that his web searches downloads and access to
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an external drive left digital footprints that they plan to use to
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bring the suit against him and you can also certainly use that stuff to say oh
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this dude knew what he was doing was wrong that does not look good in court
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so all right so the original article
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here is from forums. overclockersuk and I'm going to get John
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to bring it up okay um do you have the dock open I can't get to it on this
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laptop you can't get to the dock you can't get to the duck no it's fine just
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give me one second we're going to we're going to we're going to do this guys it's going to be okay we're going to do
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this the oldfashioned way but we're going to do this the iPhone one way no
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copy paste you just if you want do it just do it hold on if you want to get
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something you read it do we have it do we have it do we have it I think that's
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it hey we got it okay okay so first things first I want to give you guys the
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AMD Ryzen summary have a little bit of discussion here and then we're going to
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talk about already prior to launch and I don't have
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mine yet the pictures that I took were of one at the event I didn't bring that
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with me um but uh we're going to talk about
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rumors already surfacing that there might be some
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issues Don okay so step one of this is ryzen's
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coming okay I actually don't know if the
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uh yes okay so it's for pre-order now and the ship date is March 2nd okay so
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ryzen's coming that's super exciting we're all super amped up on that there
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are three SKS that they're announcing right now all in the ryzen 7 lineup have
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you looked into this much a little bit okay so there's the topof thee line
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1800x that one is clocked at I think it's 3.6 to 4 GHz and it's an 8 core 16
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thread processor there's the 1700x which is 3.4 to
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3.8 if I recall correctly and then there's the SE did I say x that time you
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did okay then there's the 1700 non-x um
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that tops out at like 3.7 I believe yeah so that one's like 3 to 3.7 yeah they're
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priced anywhere from $4.99 down to 3.99
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down to 329 so what's really cool about this is
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that AMD has taken eight threads or eight eight cores 16 threads and gone
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you know what this is worth 500 bucks tops and
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you can have this for as little as Intel was spend as was asking for a
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7700k which is four cores 16 threads and
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on board Graphics um well and we can we can
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discuss that a little bit later as well actually and uh yeah I mean it's got
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support for ddr4 24 PC I Lanes which is
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smack in the middle of Intel's high-end platform and am and Intel's lowend
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platform their mainstream platform um
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and performance looks really really
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impressive now to be clear there are some things that apparently I misspoke
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on something obviously when I was talking about the Intel chip I meant four cores eight threads okay chill I I
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I misspoke on something else recently and people are like get their pitchforks
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out already yeah right anyway so
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you are actually making some trade-offs let's say that ryzen's performance per
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clock per core was identical to Intel
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Broadwell or Sky lake or kbl lake or whatever the case may be I I haven't
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personally tested it so I can't break an embargo for information I don't have
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let's say for example it was it was identical you are still making some
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tradeoffs Intel does have exclusive Technologies they have Thunderbolt 3
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they have the upcoming opan which I don't know really a whole lot about John
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has done a fair bit of research actually you have done a fair bit of research do you want to talk about what's opan in a
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nutshell tldr uh extremely fast ssds
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like quite a bit faster than uh PCI Express m.2 okay yeah cool should we
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should we talk more about that no that's fine so so Intel does have exclusive
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Technologies they do potentially have
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optimizations and functional units available in their CPUs that AMD might
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not have so so a perfect example of that would be the onboard GPU so that GPU can
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do things like one of the demos that AMD
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has been running to show how more cores
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can benefit real users today has been
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gaming playing Dota 2 while streaming
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and they've demonstrated that a 7700k gets
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absolutely butt wrecked by that scenario
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dropping something like 20% of the frames while the game streams yeah like
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pretty significant like 15 to 20% however what AMD conveniently
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doesn't demonstrate is that you could
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stream using Intel quicksync video MH in
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which case you would be offloading that encoding task to the onboard GPU now the
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argument AMD makes is that at the kinds of bit rates that you're able to use
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when you're streaming to Twitch so typically around 3,500 kilobit per
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second you are it is very important to
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have the cleanest possible Source because any blocking or artifacting that
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exists in the original Source at that kind of a bit rate at 1080p60 or like
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900 p60 which is again fairly typical for twitch is exacerbated it is made
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much worse by the low bit
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rate stream over twitch's service so
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they make the argument that more cores in this case more important than having
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that fixed function video encoder so
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there you go basically the the fight that's coming is pretty interesting AMD
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is saying you know what forget about it with some of this other stuff that we're
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we're going high performance CPU I mean
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that was right on the it was right on Dr Sue's deck and Intel has taken a
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completely different strategy over the last few years increasing their per core
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performance and their core counts on the mainstream basically not at all in
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several generations and adding more and more GPU performance in that
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igpu I forget where I was going with this a little different than how it used
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to be almost almost opposite because you had amds with the a with Andy with the
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apus and then you had Intel who was running circles around them in terms of
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things like IPC and now now it's seemingly flipping a little bit with
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what they're focusing on yeah now it looks very interesting where Intel is all of a sudden the Apu company um with
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that said um I mean when we when we showed ryen
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off back at CES just I have to be really careful while I'm talking to not say
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things that are embargoed so I'm trying to remember when I learned things and
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whether they're embargoed or not so you'll remember this from CES apus are
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also coming to the am4 platform in fact most am4 boards have video outputs on
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the back even though none of the RIS 7 CPUs have any onboard Graphics so those
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will just be dead ports in that case well will they be your is are they
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integrating any kind of um you know back in the day they they would Som have have
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little igpus that set directly on the motor board I'm guessing they're not doing this anymore they're not doing
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that it's either on the CPU or Apu as it
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were or it is not in the computer so
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that's kind of the summary AMD and the demos look really impressive there were
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more demos than what I showed in my video and if you watch some other people's coverage they might have
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focused on different demos but I was incredibly impressed with the amount of
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progress that AMD has made over the last
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4 years that Zen core has been in
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development now with that said oh you
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know what okay no no no no a little bit I want to straw pull this I want to
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straw pull this I want to get your take on this okay
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um but and I'm going to straw pull it before I ask you because someone has
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pointed out to me in the past that it is like a huge problem to issue a straw
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poll to the audience and then say oh here's what we think and then so excuse
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the poll and say what we think first yeah okay so AMD ryzen um does this Mark
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a return to competition yes no how are we how are we
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defining competition like a certain percentage of the market or a certain I
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don't think we are I don't think we're going to try to Define it in black and
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white necessarily I just want to know in the minds of the viewers
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do you feel like we're getting back to a
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time when there is competition in the CPU market and where you don't feel like
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Intel is just doing whatever they want as long as they want or as short as they
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want and we all just kind of have to suck it up
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princess so while the results roll in
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why don't you go ahead and share your thoughts so what do we know about uh
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about performance levels like single threaded performance because I've heard
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rumors and you have probably learned new information since I've heard this I'm
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not sure how much you can say but I've heard oh so it's going to be similar to
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what Intel had with Broadwell and Broadwell is a couple Generations old
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now by this point but at the same time if you look at how most users and even a
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lot of enthusiasts are using their their rigs they they'd be hard pressed to tell
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the difference between Broadwell and K Lake in the day-to-day okay so you so
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maybe assume okay AMD is not going to take a huge hit because users want more
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raw single threader performance assume that doesn't happen yeah so I looked the
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other night on Amazon and ryzen's
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already like number one selling CPU now granted not everyone's going out and
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buying CPU in the Box vast majority of people they're buying pre-builts or buying laptops whatever yeah but
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nevertheless it did make it up to like the top of the bestselling charts okay
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so um and you're looking at okay so
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we're it's 2017 now and we have more and more things that can take advantage of
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multiple cores not everything obviously but but it's a better situation than it
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was it's a much better situation four or five years ago when Intel said look six
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cores and more that's Enthusiast exactly so we're getting to the point now where
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you know those sorts of things that can leverage that stuff is becoming better
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optimized it's become a little bit more mainstream and you have you have a chip
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here that is eight cores and reportedly 16 threads we kind of had a discussion
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about this earlier eight cor 16 threads and this is we're not talking bulldozer
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here where AMD was like yes we have eight cores but actually they have four
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compute modules which share some resources these are eight cores they
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showed die shots there we go yeah these are eight cores okay so we have eight
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actual independent cores that aren't sharing resources as lions just and and
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you have this you can get a 3.7 GHz chip
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with this architecture and yes you miss out on some of like you know the Intel
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platform exclusive features but if we're just talking about performance here 330
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bucks us as opposed to the equivalent ship was like what about $1,000 from
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Intel so depending how you measure it and that's something that we have to be
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really careful as the press and users have to be really careful about as well
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we need to make sure that we understand that there are going to be situations
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where 7700k is going to kick a ryzen 1700's
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butt and there are also also platform features that you would be getting with
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Intel I mean is what's the is 40 to 24
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as far as the PCI expressing are my numbers right there on the 7700k
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it's 20 to oh no I'm not talking about I'm talking about like uh because the
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7700k is not 8 core I'm talking about Intel's um Skylake or not Skylake but a
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Broadwell e broad e so in that case again so we have to be really careful
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when we compare to the 7700 K which has a much higher clock speed and will
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therefore deliver better performance in some applications that are really clock
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speed or like individual core performance like some games so we got to
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be careful about that comparison we can't say the 1700 is hands down better
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even if it absolutely spanks it in
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content creation benchmarks for example and then we have to be really careful
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again saying okay the 1800x is equivalent to a
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6900k because like John was saying if you have um if if heavy expansion is a
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priority for your system then they're not going to be equivalent then they're not equivalent because 24 PCI Lanes is
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not 40 PCIe Lanes 4 is clearly a lower number than 40 yes so AMD made a bet
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here they they they they put down their bet and they kind of went we think that
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there's a mid that instead of taking Intel on headon in the high-end desktop
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so that's the architecture e so HT is
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the the 40 core platform LGA 2011 and
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rather than taking Intel on head on on
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their mainstream platform we're going to go we think
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consumers Enthusiast consumers and consumers in general want something kind
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of in between because it would have been more expensive to have more PCI links it
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would have been more expensive to have triple or quad Channel memory AMD went
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dual Channel memory MH but they did spend a little more than
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Intel because they went they threw more cores at the problem so there's there's a more complex interconnect at play
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obviously here so that was the bet that AMD made and there are I mean you know
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this is not a sales pitch for running out and buying a kbl leg processor to be
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very clear but there are other exclusive things on Intel as well uh for example
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Netflix at 4K MH yeah have to have kbl like or new whenever their new chips
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come out so but I mean that's something that doesn't favor Intel necessarily
28:15
even that much anyway because uh the the
28:18
high-end desktop like the, $1,700 processor they don't have that anyway no
28:22
way so okay let's bring up the results of
28:26
the straw pull here actually oh you have to bring it up whopping Lee it's okay so
28:30
here's what we're going to do I have to actually type in the straw pole address
28:35
here so bear with me for just a moment while Line's cackles at me I don't know
28:39
what's wrong with my HTMI out I'm sorry
28:43
I'm sorry everybody and I don't know why John
28:46
doesn't get signed into his thing at some point here while we're talking I'm
28:50
just trying to be expeditious I don't know okay there we go cool 91% say yes
28:59
that's good I mean okay to be clear this is not the stock market and you know
29:04
consumer sentiment does not dictate how
29:08
things are going necessarily to to to that kind of a degree I mean but this
29:14
kind of confidence is great to see and really encouraging which brings us then
29:19
finally back to that article that we were going to bring up before rumors are
29:24
apparently already surfacing and this is I'm not trying to pick on AMD here this
29:29
always happens whether it's an ARA or whether it's like you know some you know
29:36
oh H oh perfect example like what kind of thermal interface material is getting
29:41
used between the dye and the integrated heat spreader there's always some
29:45
Scandal every CPU launch green or red team there's a scandal but it looks like
29:51
ryzen ddr4 memory might not be operating
29:54
at the kinds of speeds that folks might have expected
29:58
Ed so long story short apparently ryzen
30:03
is having some issues running four sticks of RAM especially while running
30:07
high speeds of RAM so it's recommended to only run RAM sticks at Max of around
30:12
2 2400 mahz if running with four sticks
30:15
however it is possible to run two sticks with a max speed of 3200 mehz Mega
30:20
megaherz meah hortz apparently this is
30:23
all according to one Forum post though and since we don't have a chip yet we
30:27
have absolutely no comments to make on this subject whatsoever other than to
30:32
say yeah that doesn't really surprise me it may or may not be true if you're
30:37
having problems with your brand new ryzen rig TR down might want to try
30:42
turning down your memory speeds just in case so there we go just see if that
30:46
helps you out a little bit there all
30:49
right we've got uh Disney's thing what's
30:52
coming up next oh yeah let's do Disney thing we were going to talk about that
30:56
and then we ran to some sight problem so
30:59
all right so the original this was posted on the Forum by uh let's just go
31:03
find out I don't know I've got it here I
31:07
still don't know uh by hey yo cool and
31:12
the original article here is from Mashable let's go ahead and oh I
31:16
actually have it up from ours but oh RS okay that's fine it's basically the same
31:20
thing I I love ours too Disney research
31:23
has achieved room scale which is pretty
31:27
freaking let me let me uh just stay still there we go it looks like that
31:31
room scale ubiquitous Wireless power
31:35
delivery now to be very clear wireless power delivery has been a thing for a
31:39
long time but unless you know we go back
31:43
to secrets that apparently died with Nicola Tesla
31:48
um it's had some limitations so some of
31:51
the ways that they can do wireless power are with magnets and that's where the
31:55
induction charging that probably exist on your smartphone if you aren't an
31:59
Apple user um that's where that comes from okay or if you are an Apple user it
32:04
might exist on your watch okay so some of it involves
32:08
magnets uh so changing magnetic field causes a something it causes a current
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to flow thank you okay other options
32:16
involve microwaves um so with like a
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beam you can actually use microwaves to
32:23
send power remotely however that is um
32:28
while possible and actually like Works
32:32
um super hazardous and like that's a big
32:36
problem have you seen the videos um there was there there was a channel I
32:39
forget the guy's name but there's a Channel of a guy from the Ukraine I think and he took like the magnatron out
32:45
of a microwave and he stuck a he stuck
32:49
like a tin can on top of it and pointed it at a boom box and the boom box
32:52
exploded wow yeah so some pretty serious
32:55
stuff here no no that wasn't what I was surprised by I was surprised by you calling it the Ukraine you're usually
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the king of geography it's Ukraine yeah
33:03
they took out the the a long time ago I beat John at something just because I
33:08
use a slightly Antiquated term for a country that's not even really incorrect
33:12
I got to take the victories I can get okay okay very good all right so the
33:17
concept here this is really cool this is like next level stuff you walk into the
33:22
room with a smartphone in your pocket and it starts charging boom so
33:26
researchers actually built a freestanding living room with aluminum
33:30
panels covering the walls floor and ceiling in the center of the room a 2-in
33:36
copper pipe runs vertically from floor to ceiling electric current runs down
33:41
through the pipe into the floor and up the walls looping it get this
33:47
1.3 million times per second 1.3
33:51
mehz sounds less impressive when you put it in the context of like uh you know
33:56
CPUs yeah said it's not the same kind of her but trust me it's a lot it's a lot
34:00
and this is cool the looping electricity creates a room filling magnetic field
34:06
running in a circular pattern perpendicular to the pole so no humans
34:11
can stand within 46 cm of the foot and a half for our American viewers yeah of
34:16
the copper pool because your body will absorb dangerous amounts of energy but
34:21
the but the researchers say it is safe to transmit 1.9 kilow of electricity
34:27
enough to power up to 320 USB power
34:30
devices I can see I can see P's brain
34:33
exploding so pel's just to put this in the appropriate context P's mom is a
34:39
researcher on the effects of EMF on humans and um it is it is her belief
34:47
that we are underestimating and I'm putting this fairly mildly but it is her
34:52
belief that we are underestimating the effects of all the waves and bullcrap
34:57
that are going on around us and I get
35:00
the feeling that she probably wouldn't want to live on a block that has one of
35:05
these on it do I get that do I get did I get that right Pella he's nodding he
35:10
would she want to live in a city that has one of these in it I'm getting the
35:14
I'm getting the head shake
35:18
honestly you know you know what's really what's interesting about this is that
35:24
um I think we're finally getting to the point
35:29
where I'm I'm right up there with the
35:34
guys that are like look if you can't prove that it's causing a problem it's
35:38
probably fine it's a magnet we're like surrounded by magnets and crap anyway I
35:43
mean there's like hippie morons out there that wear them because they think
35:47
that it will Channel their Chi or whatever um they didn't die so it's
35:52
probably fine like I'm I'm I usually kind of take that approach go ahead put
35:57
an implant in my you know eye that helps me you know see better there there's
36:02
never to my knowledge there's never been any study that actually suggests that
36:05
things like em interference is actually like hazardous or cancer causing or
36:09
anything I mean yeah if you if you get bombarded with Gamma raay or something
36:13
that's a little bit different but I'm talking about you know Electronics so but this is this makes me a little
36:19
uncomfortable well just don't stand um
36:23
less than 1.5 ft from it right but this but this 46 CM th
36:28
like it's not like it's not like a microwave oven where we go yeah that
36:33
stuff's dangerous yeah like you shouldn't do this you put your head in there and it's a big problem but it's
36:37
okay we put a faraday cage around it where we have the Faraday cage this is a
36:41
well understood thing and it's
36:45
fine and here we're saying yeah it's
36:49
fine don't get too close how close is too close well this I guess and you know
36:55
what I'm sure there's science to back this up sure it's you know and I'm sure
36:58
twitch chat is full of people raging at me because Disney has already
37:02
demonstrated that Beyond exactly exactly 46 CM um you know it it it fades away
37:09
into the background radiation of which there is lots I
37:13
know but it's like a foot and a half it's dangerous beyond that don't worry
37:18
about it uh 1.9 kilowatt of electricity
37:21
don't worry about it I can see them refining this to the point where they'll
37:25
deploy it at like their theme parts and stuff and if it actually you know would
37:29
cause a problem there' be so many lawsuits so I feel like they would probably be pretty careful with it so
37:34
you think in the interest of protecting themselves from lawsuits bearing in mind
37:37
of course that you know lawsuits didn't
37:41
result in the tobacco industry having to
37:45
pay for you know the entire world's lung
37:48
cancer treatments like um yes with that in mind do you
37:55
think Disney is exposing themselves any more than let's say tobacco big
38:01
tobacco did wow it's like a law school exam question um so so what's your
38:06
actual question FL out a little bit more sure
38:09
I'll flush it out so your you say Disney would research it
38:16
fully to avoid exposing themselves to potential lawsuits because people are
38:21
walking around in their park and getting you know ass cancer or whatever the case
38:25
may be I like how that's now the second
38:29
like butt Anatomy reference we've already made on W show oh I can do more
38:33
than that oh I know I know I you should see how many I can fit in there I work
38:37
with this guy 40 hours a week so there we go anyway
38:43
uh sorry um okay but what I'm asking is are
38:49
they really exposing
38:52
themselves any more than than previous
38:56
um what's it called precedent like then then we already have precedent for these
39:00
companies not ultimately ending up being responsible for giving people cancer I
39:04
mean okay if if they get to the point where okay we know this is safe and the
39:09
reason I even bring that up in the first place is because oh you know if you go
39:12
to like Disney World or something they give you the little they call them magic bands you wee them here and it's got
39:16
like an RF chip in it and they they're like oh you don't even have to carry
39:20
your wallet around with you unless you want to buy alcohol or something because you can just do you tap to everything
39:24
and it works right so so I can see them deploying Wireless power in in like
39:29
let's say a theme park to do something with those or to or to make their rides
39:32
cooler so they don't have to run wires or something like that but y but
39:36
regardless of what they use it for if they're going to do something like that you know if they if there's a real
39:42
danger they would obviously have to like disclose it and they wouldn't do that
39:45
because if they say oh by the way if you walk into our Parks we're testing this
39:48
new thing out it's probably going be pretty cool but you also might get
39:53
ballat cancer or something and that would be very bad so so um and even if
39:57
they warm people everyone's going to be like yeah let's not go there so so you
40:02
know I I can't see them using this in like a very you know risky manner okay
40:07
so the basic argument being made here is that consumers were complicit in giving
40:13
themselves cancer because by the time the dangers had been proven there was a
40:17
warning label on the box and they're ultimately buying cancer so that's their
40:21
problem whereas if they walk into a theme park with the assumption that there's magic cell phone charging mhm
40:27
not realizing that there's any any danger that Disney would be exposing
40:31
themselves if they hadn't done appropriate due diligence at the very least yeah it's called Assumption of the
40:36
risk and it varies really wildly depending on exactly what situation
40:39
you're talking about I'm actually not down on my history because you know I was born in ' 87 and I'm so I'm not sure
40:45
exactly I'm not I'm not a smoker so I don't know exactly when they started
40:48
putting the warnings in all the cigarette boxes that said yo this might
40:52
kill you it was like how you know when they first invented Coca-Cola they had
40:56
cocaine in it back in n 1910s or something and they had no idea like how
41:00
bad cocaine was for people so so I'm I'm not exactly sure about that but like at
41:05
the same time I think there is a you know you know you know the average
41:09
reasonable person as we say in law you know if they walk into Disney World
41:13
because they want to go meet Mickey Mouse and ride Space Mountain you know I
41:16
think there's a reasonable expectation that that will not give me cancer so
41:20
right there we go so special cancer Mickey yeah as opposed to inhaling smoke
41:26
and lighting things on fire haling smoke which I think is just obviously
41:29
inherently more dangerous so than meeting Mickey unless you have like a
41:33
depending where you're meeting Mickey unless you have like a a crippling
41:37
psychological fear of like FES if you're meeting Mickey in the back alley that's
41:42
probably inherently as dangerous as inhaling
41:45
burning that that that's really not safe no meeting making the Alleyways off of
41:50
International Drive in Orlando please do not do that probably a good idea so the
41:53
original article here is from Kotaku the switch will not have a virtual console
42:00
at launch and this is a statement from Nintendo Virtual Console games will not
42:05
be available on Nintendo switch at launch we will share more information in
42:09
the future so virtual console for those of you not familiar is Nintendo's
42:14
emulation service which allows the switch to play games from The Nest up
42:18
through the GameCube it will likely
42:21
become a major part here's the original article here from where's it from again
42:26
Kaku right it will likely become a major part of the console's new paid for
42:30
online subscription which will offer NES and SNES games each month the delay in
42:36
Virtual Console support likely means we'll also be waiting longer for
42:39
Nintendo's plans on whether discounts will be offered on games previous
42:43
previously bought for other platforms so
42:46
this is kind of a bummer in a wide variety of different ways um so NES and
42:51
SNES games each month does this mean they'll have like a rotating selection
42:55
of titles and they'll only be available for so long and then after that you
42:58
can't play anymore or am I understanding that I hate to say this um but I don't
43:02
know I think we've discussed this previously and Luke knows the answer but
43:06
um I'm sorry I don't remember I'm sure twitch chat is going to pipe up and let you know anyway I'll keep an eye on it
43:10
but uh basically I understand what's going on here um this is an entirely new
43:15
architecture so it's not like Nintendo could just be like oh well let's just
43:18
take the emulation software we were already using and let's just run it on
43:22
the switch not that simple this is a completely new device
43:27
um so I get what happened there but it's
43:31
like super balls
43:34
because Nintendo is doing their thing
43:38
where like I don't even know why it made headlines that Nintendo was allowing you
43:42
to carry Virtual Console purchases forward from Wii to Wii U because I mean
43:47
it it half made headlines because of the ass backwards way that they did it where
43:51
you like had to deactivate your Wii and
43:55
then put it on your Wii you instead of
43:58
just having it be account based is ridic anyway the point is now I mean we don't
44:04
even know if we're going to get a discount on games we previously bought
44:08
let alone still have them and be able to carry them forward and number two is
44:12
that this even further damages the game library of the switch
44:19
it doesn't even have Virtual Console this time and it's also funny because
44:23
let's say someone is waiting for the switch and maybe they were tired of
44:26
their Wii or they sold it or whatever and they want to play an older game
44:30
guess what they're going to do they're going to Pro there's a chance that
44:33
they'll pirate it and this is a company that's extremely protective of his IP so
44:37
there might be more problems with that which Nintendo was ultimately going to be very upset about but because they
44:43
didn't ju they didn't simply find a way to either Port Virtual Console over or
44:47
at least say okay we're going to at least have something more available for you at launch
44:52
so all right um that was pretty much it
44:55
for that wasn't it yeah yeah okay cool let's move on to the next topic then
44:59
Microsoft is testing underwater data
45:03
centers so the original article here is from spectrum. e.org and I know that the
45:09
whole concept of underwater data centers is not necessarily the newest thing ever
45:12
but there's some new information and this was originally posted on the Forum
45:16
by helpful member actually I might be getting ahead of it might be uh oh
45:21
aluminium Tech okay yes helpful member aluminium
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it doesn't make any sense especially ones that I know have the hardware just
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the makers like yeah that feature seems unnecessary you should know what you're
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outputting you know what in some cases you don't some cameras you select
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that there doesn't seem to be a compelling reason for it that seems like a lot of rig roll just to capture a
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49:55
um so this is interesting RS Technica
49:59
reports that Amazon is refusing to hand
50:02
over data on whether their Alexa
50:05
overheard a
50:10
murder Amazon said that because of the
50:13
Constitutional concerns at issue the authorities need to demonstrate a
50:18
compelling need for the information and must exhaust other avenues to acquire
50:25
that data even Alexa's answers are apparently
50:29
protected by the First Amendment which protects as speech the results produced
50:34
by an internet search engine so wow
50:38
we've had so many legal topics today this is great M your thoughts because I
50:43
don't I don't know well again Amazon is a huge company I'm sure they could
50:47
afford some very good lawyers but at the same time I kind of raised my eyebrow a
50:50
little bit because I'm not sure about like the first amendment here this
50:55
sounds to me a lot more like Fourth Amendment search and seizure um the
50:59
fourth amendment is the piece of our Constitution that says um it says you
51:05
can't um search or see someone's property without a warrant right yeah so
51:10
this seems to fall a lot more into that you know I'm not exactly sure how the
51:14
First Amendment comes into play here there's there's a quote from the court
51:18
Mo there is a quote from the court motion there we go um I'm looking at
51:23
that is alleging that this could um have a chilling effect on speech from users
51:29
so folks who buy an Alexa or buy like um
51:33
what what's the what's the other product is is it's I'm drawing the blank right now Echo yeah the echo an Alexa or an
51:38
echo from exercising their first amendment rights to seek and receive
51:42
information and expressive content in the privacy of their own home okay so
51:46
there is like a little bit of a concern there but the more immediate one seems
51:50
to be whether um whether they can actually be compelled to turn the
51:55
information over which which like I said I feel like there's some other concerns
51:59
maybe like Asser and seizure that would be that would be brought up here because
52:02
it's a it's a local police department in Arkansas that's actually asking for the
52:06
data Bentonville that's where Walmart is headquartered right so fun fact of
52:10
course you know that but all right so
52:14
not I'm I'm not entirely sure about that but it did make it did it did make me
52:18
raise my eyebrow a little bit I'm also just intrigued like if if Alexa did in
52:23
fact hear a hear a murder or was present for a murder like what exactly is being
52:27
stored on their servers like what what what Amazon actually knows about it yeah
52:31
I mean at at a certain point I have to I
52:35
have to kind of like you know for myself
52:38
I have to kind of wonder whether there's a a line between
52:43
sort of legal obligation and just sort
52:46
of moral obligation in this case like I I personally as someone who was murdered
52:51
would appreciate Amazon kind of you know
52:54
helping me out on this I don't know why my HDMI output isn't working well I mean
52:57
at the end of the day this I got you I got you um at the end of the day this
53:01
kind of comes back down to um obviously
53:05
Amazon's business right because if if
53:08
this gets out and it's like oh well you know the cops were able to get their
53:12
hands on what my what my smart speaker
53:16
from Amazon heard then they might may not buy smart speakers anymore so there
53:19
you go right fair enough okay I could
53:24
have done that you know this is a maze ball
53:27
um the article here is from The Washington Post and you guys oh have to
53:33
check this out um is this just a slideshow it's pretty
53:38
cool though like or it's a video but hope I don't get into too much trouble but France is apparently training Eagles
53:45
and I hope we yeah there we go you can kind of see training Eagles to snatch
53:49
drones out of the Skies to combat
53:53
terrorism freaking awesome way to go France I'm you guys are amazing so uh
54:00
basically they they train them from a very young age um and they wanted a way
54:04
to take down drones without shooting at them so there you go they train them from a very young age they're hatched on
54:09
top of drones to get used to feeding from them and practice drones have meat
54:14
attached to them this is amazing so the
54:17
military is designing leather and Kevlar
54:21
mittens an anti-blast material to protect their
54:25
talons wow that's freaking awesome I'm also
54:30
surprised like if you hear the headline army trains Eagle to attack drones you
54:36
would think it's the us but it was France I right it's like take that
54:41
America France is gonna um uh no no this
54:45
one okay uh okay last topic for the day
54:49
GTX 1080 TI rumors NVIDIA will be
54:52
holding a GTX gaming celebration event on February 28th
54:57
allegedly um just after AMD's caps and
55:01
cream event the same day so the original article here is from overclock 3d. net I
55:06
don't know any of this stuff NVIDIA states that this event is one that you
55:11
don't want to miss with many people speculating that the event will be used
55:15
to launch new GPU Hardware how very
55:19
interesting all right so last thing left for today is uh oh yeah hold on a second
55:25
there you go so there there you go that is the rumor oh I don't even know is
55:28
that just photosho I think it's just a mockup that just looks photosho the the
55:31
ti kind of just looks shoved in there so yeah yeah I don't think that's a real
55:35
one no no no this is pretty okay anyway
55:38
there it is which leaves our last topic as Flo playing Club so those of you who
55:42
aren't familiar with float playing Club in a nutshell it's a super cool way to
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watch Linus Media Group videos one week
55:50
early we've actually got way more members than we were expecting to have
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at this point in the process but I just want to tease you guys with
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what's going to be coming to Floatplane Club in the next week or no not what's
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going to be coming to Floatplane Club sorry what's going to be coming to
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YouTube what is already available on Floatplane club now so starting on
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tomorrow actually it's going to be a heck of a week so
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uh right oh right no no what is already there what is already there is right
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Apple airpod Alternatives so we uh we
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took for a spin a bunch of wireless earbuds that um are a lot cheaper or in
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some cases even more expensive than the Apple airpods to kind of determine is
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Apple really overpriced or just is it just expensive we've got server room
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upgrade Vlog part two of three we've got
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our investigation into bulk thermal compounds so we bought a kilogram of
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thermal compound and we find out is buying your thermal compound in bulk
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worth it we've got Dell's inspiring game gaming so their new replacement for the
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Inspiron 90 whatever Inspiron 15 whatever it was so this time they're
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really calling it Inspiron gaming and it's looking like a pretty cool little
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machine we've got um that was a
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simultaneous release we've got server room upgrade vog part three of
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three and that's it yeah so all of those are
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up on Floatplane Club right now and we've actually got fastest possible topics up there as as well which I can't
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find unfortunately right now but if you know them off the top of your head that might be helpful well uh we just pushed
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one out today um on the Nintendo P one out popped one out today yeah
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oh on WE plopped out a video today if you
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would if you would prefer that on the Nintendo switch um Nintendo switch as
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fast as possible now available on float planing Club um it's a pretty
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comprehensive yet pretty quick rundown of the new features you can expect on
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the Nintendo switch so you have that to look forward to on YouTube next week
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actually on switch launch day so cool oh and did we mention um DRM free downloads
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is that right for FL play Club yeah DRM free downloads for Flo plan Club so
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there's no ads DRM free downloads and Early Access there we go alongside that
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we also got the Channel Super Fun release that came out to Floatplane
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with we threw some axes it was wonderful
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we threw some shade is what just got thrown you get to see Dennis throw sharp
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objects so I mean how can you say no so we linked where you guys can join up and
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we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat
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Channel roll the outro oh my nose is
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DPP uh not quite and hold on almost and