The WAN Show - GTX 960, R9 390X, and Ubisoft KEEPS ON DIGGING - November 14, 2014

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0:01 and we're live welcome to the W show sorry guys Luke couldn't join us yet
0:07 don't worry he'll be here in a little bit but for now Slender Man will be
0:10 taking his place while I introduce the topics for the day and all that good
0:13 stuff because Luke is actually finishing
0:17 up what will be tomorrow's video right
0:20 now we're going to be covering the ASUS Gladius Rog Mouse it was supposed to be
0:26 an Assassin's Creed Unity performance guide with a bunch of graphics cards and
0:30 benchmarking and all that stuff but I'll let him cover when he gets back why that
0:36 didn't happen H yeah it was it was pretty bad so we've got a lot of great
0:40 topics for you guys today aside from that an AMD has released the mantle
0:46 public SDK so they are pretty much inviting
0:50 everyone with some uh with some need to
0:54 have a super like bare Toth Metal Graphics API whether it's game
0:58 developers or say for example other Hardware manufacturers they're inviting
1:02 everyone to the party AT&T is acting
1:05 like a small child about the ongoing net neutrality debate in the US and uh
1:11 honestly this is just unreal so we'll give you more details on that and the
1:15 NVIDIA Shield tablet is going to be one of the first devices not made by Google
1:20 to feature the new Android 5.0 Lollipop
1:24 Os Oh also I guess you know grid gam streaming went out of beta so we'll talk
1:28 about that as well but for now now I got to roll the intro to buy myself some
1:32 time to uh go ahead and get our
1:35 announcement video up that we're live so that's a
1:40 thing oh there's no music in this one I
1:43 swear one of these days I'm going to figure out which one has the music and
1:47 this is not going to happen
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2:47 AMD releases public mantle SDK well th
2:52 this year so let's go ahead and um first give credit to our op so Tera flop
2:57 posted this on the lens Tech tips forum and the original article is from and I
3:03 know these guys aren't the most popular source of news on the Linus Tech chips
3:09 Forum but W wccf Tech posted that it is
3:12 coming this year and AMD has basically come out and said look NVIDIA and Intel
3:18 we want you guys to use it you can use it for free Now Intel has expressed some
3:25 interest in mantle apparently um NVIDIA
3:28 on the other hand has not been that warm
3:32 and has not been that uh friendly to the whole idea but I mean this was something
3:37 that we've talked about in the past as well it might not necessarily be about
3:42 mantle being the API for you know every
3:46 future game although they do have a surprising number of games on the list
3:52 of already released to be released soon
3:55 and currently in development that are supporting this technology but it might
3:59 not end up being mantle API that you know the game runs on ultimately 5 years
4:04 from now but what's great about them
4:07 opening up the kimono a little bit like this is Kronos and Microsoft so the
4:12 openg and direct X guys have already said that they're looking at mantle and
4:18 possibly implementing various parts of it in their own apis so I mean openg has
4:23 the advantage of its ubiquity I mean you can run openg games on a tablet or you
4:29 can run them on a PC um so that's really
4:34 cool direct X of course has that amazing backwards compatibility as well as that
4:39 enormous industrywide support on the PC side of things and so if either of those
4:45 get anything positive out of AMD's
4:48 public mantle SDK then that's uh that's
4:51 absolutely fantastic so that's I mean
4:55 it's it's incredible how much momentum it's gained and yet how it might not end
5:00 up being the winner but there's no question that mantle has pushed the
5:03 industry forward and we should definitely be thankful for
5:09 that all right I just you know let's do a straw
5:14 pull here I want to hear from you guys okay straw pole
5:20 will NVIDIA provide any kind of mantle
5:27 support yes no and let's go with apple fritter for
5:34 our third option because I know how much you guys love you know just not
5:40 contributing to the poll at all all right let's go ahead and spam the chat
5:43 with this bad boy boom boom
5:48 boom ah I missed that first time yeah no
5:52 matter where you click in that apparently the camera looks really bad
5:55 today I don't know what you're talking about all right there we go
6:00 all that's bam so we've already got uh who's this
6:04 in twitch chat one man Pizza in twitch chat already says it's not even a
6:08 question they will never I I don't necessarily think that's
6:13 true I mean it's not like NVIDIA is in a position where if some game comes out
6:19 that that ends up actually running you know 20 30% better on mantle compared to
6:24 directx12 which looks like it's going to offer many of the same benefits so this
6:28 kind of thing seems very un likely but if there was a game like a really key
6:32 game or a lots of games like a dozen games that run 20 30% faster on mantle
6:38 you really think NVIDIA's not going to leverage that if they can I I don't
6:43 think that's true at all but let's go ahead and see what you guys think let's
6:47 fire up these results here while I move on to the next topic wow we've got 51%
6:53 of you uh saying no 30% of you saying
6:57 apple fritter and a um tiny 19% of you saying yes so it looks
7:02 like you guys are pretty much on the same page about both apple fritters and
7:08 uh the chances that NVIDIA will provide any kind of support in their drivers for
7:13 metal all right our next topic actually
7:18 you know what this is a Ubisoft thing so I think I'm really just going to have to
7:21 wait until Luke gets here for this um so
7:25 first up is this was posted by Tech dreamer on the Forum let's go and the
7:28 original IAL here is from Ang Gadget but
7:31 Tom wheeler the FCC chairman says that he may ignore Obama on the topic of net
7:39 neutrality now he made it very clear
7:43 that even though he was appointed by Obama the FCC is a separate entity just
7:49 because the White House says something like you know oh we want to classify the
7:54 internet in the same way that we now classify telephone lines so there can be
7:58 there can be no no messing about with the way that traffic gets allocated and
8:04 and the way that bandwidth gets allocated so that you know large
8:07 corporations would have an advantage if they're able to afford to pay for
8:11 internet Fast Lanes so Obama's basically said look you know net neutrality is a
8:16 really good thing but the FCC chairman has come out and said that he thinks
8:21 that the solution while you know I I hopefully hopefully you know
8:27 the the solution that the internet service providers are offering up which
8:31 is that they should basically be able to do whatever they want as far as I can
8:35 tell he's saying he prefers a or he prefers a more nuanced solution so you
8:40 guys can interpret that however you want but it sounds like what we're likely to
8:44 end up with isn't going to be straight net neutrality and isn't going to be
8:48 straight the isps are allowed to do whatever they want but some critics and
8:52 Advocates are expressing their concern that a compromise between these two
8:57 might just end up with a muddy set of rules that doesn't actually have a whole
9:03 lot of meaning in the real world so guys
9:08 there are a thousand places that you can voice your opinion on the subject of net
9:12 neutrality but the only thing I really have to say about it at this point is go
9:17 voice it it's extremely important without net neutrality we could see
9:22 situations where let's say a company
9:25 like oh I don't know hypothetically Netflix were to try to start a let's say
9:30 hypothetically streaming service where they deliver video programming to
9:34 people's homes and let's say you know an
9:38 incumbent let's say Comcast whose business happens to be and these are
9:41 just examples these are hypothetical companies any semblance they bear to
9:45 existing companies it's purely coincidental so let's say for example
9:49 this company hypothetically named Comcast goes oh well you know we're in
9:52 the business of providing internet connections to people's homes but we're
9:55 also in the business of providing video content to people's homes and if these
10:00 guys are going to use our lines for that well they should be paying us a lot more
10:05 than necessarily the you know exact
10:08 amount we would normally charge for the amount of bandwidth that they're using
10:11 and if we don't maintain net neutrality we will be stuck in a situation where
10:16 they would be free to do that and we could rely on the courts to enforce any
10:21 kinds of you know anti- competitive laws or whatever else but we talked about
10:26 this last week where oh shoot and I
10:29 forget how long it took I think it was back in 2000 was the issue with Intel
10:34 misrepresenting the performance of their Pentium 4 processors against AMD's
10:38 competitor and so 14 years later last
10:42 week this was news people who bought that misrepresented processor got $15 I
10:47 mean that's how long this takes and that's how ineffective it is um so I
10:53 wouldn't I wouldn't rely on that we just need to make sure that we keep the the
10:56 freedoms that we already enjoy in the first place place if we want to have any
11:00 chance of of not living in a world where
11:03 our isps are in control cuz we know how
11:07 awesome they are speaking of how of how
11:10 awesome our isps are AT&T has publicly okay this was posted
11:15 by Dietrich W on the Forum the original article here is from The Verge I'll just
11:19 pull this up here but AT&T has oh that's
11:24 weird oops okay hold on a second let's
11:27 just change my screen share around here wow it just decided that it was going to
11:32 go into extend mode rather than
11:36 duplicate okay
11:41 what
11:45 ah sometimes I just don't even you know
11:50 like I just don't even get it so let's
11:55 just show desktop only on one let's try that first
12:01 okay keep changes sorry guys then let's
12:06 try uh oh okay and then that display is
12:10 completely not detected anymore which might explain some of why it's uh being
12:14 a little bit borked anyway the original article is from The Verge here and
12:17 AT&T's basically said well you know look
12:21 we're not going to invest in high-speed fiber connections and there were they're
12:26 in talks with something along the lines of 100 cities about getting high-speed
12:30 fiber rolled out and this looked very reactionary to Google Fiber starting to
12:35 roll out in selected cities and so they're saying okay look we're not going
12:39 to invest in any of that stuff until we know the lay of the land with the new
12:44 rules um so so basically how much money
12:48 they're going to be able to squeeze out of every you know foot of fiber that
12:52 they lay down in these cities and this is extremely disappointing to me not
12:56 only because they already got the money
12:59 to build a better infrastructure I mean this was this is this is well documented
13:03 at this point they got the money they did nothing with it so aside from that
13:08 they've already been paid um this is disappointing because it's not like
13:12 they're not doing just fine today the
13:15 plan to roll out this high-speed fiber networking is in place on the basis of
13:22 they're already doing just fine charging people as much as they're charging them
13:26 for internet connections that at some point they had to build the
13:30 infrastructure for and at some point that investment paid off from a business
13:34 standpoint investing in something that you can get someone to pay you 50 to $75
13:40 a month or whatever else for in densely populated areas is a winning proposition
13:46 and the only reason that they can afford to just sit on ass until presumably
13:51 sometime in early to mid 2015 when these
13:54 rulings get finalized I mean if it even happens then the only reason they're
13:58 able to do that is because it is so difficult for competitors to come in and
14:04 force them to step up their game so I I
14:07 I don't know how all this plays out I mean it's it's easy for me to say as a
14:10 Canadian well this is all kind of us nonsense so it will never affect me here
14:15 but the problem is that so much of what happens in the US does tend to become a
14:21 precedent that's been set for it now and it does tend to trickle down to other
14:24 places not everywhere but in the case of Canada that tends to happen a whole heck
14:30 of a lot and our isps are no less evil
14:33 than the American isps so they're going to look at what worked down there and
14:37 they're going to push real hard to have it you know work up here and they're
14:41 going to build case studies and they're going to Lobby our politicians and go oh
14:45 well look how successful this was it you know did this for the economy because
14:49 we're able to charge this much more to to whatever else
14:54 so what a childish thing to do we're just going to stop building any more
14:59 better infrastructure until you know we get and they haven't they haven't said
15:04 that it has to be a favorable ruling they've just said that they are going to
15:08 re-evaluate their plans once there's a ruling but I think we all kind of know
15:11 how this is uh how this is going to play
15:17 out got people asking where's Luke Luke is recording a video right now so as
15:22 soon as he's done he's going to jump up here and join me and then boot Slender
15:26 Man out of his spot all right so this is uh this is a really
15:34 unfortunate little piece of news this was posted by Victoria Secret on the
15:38 Forum and it is unusual for large
15:41 companies like NVIDIA to come and out and speak speak publicly to post on
15:47 their blog about you know something like an ongoing lawsuit but uh this is this
15:52 is really important not because of
15:56 really I straight up don't understand
16:00 where that's coming from that is oh I
16:05 know what it is that's a that's a screen
16:08 grab of the last thing that I was looking at it's not updating anymore I
16:14 see okay well you guys will just have to take my word for it it's on NVIDIA's
16:18 blog and uh basically I'm I'm going to kind of run through the whole thing here
16:21 because it's super it's super crappy and Samsung is behaving like a spoiled child
16:26 about this so they basically said look we filed patent lawsuits 2 months ago
16:30 against Samsung and Qualcomm alleging that they've used our patented GPU
16:33 technology without proper compensation to us when we filed those suits we fully
16:38 expected to be sued in response it's a predictable tactic so we weren't
16:43 surprised when earlier this week Samsung filed the lawsuit against us adding in
16:46 for good measure velocity micro I don't know if you guys are familiar with
16:50 velocity micro if you don't follow the boutique system builder space you know
16:54 the Falcon Northwest and uh you know pit
16:58 systems guys of the world you might never have heard of velocity micro but
17:01 they're a a pretty small company okay
17:06 they're not like a gigantic Mega corporation like a like a Dell where
17:11 there could be some kind of you know collusion between Dell and NVIDIA to
17:16 allegedly break some Samsung patent or
17:19 something they're just they're just a system integrator very similar to this
17:22 could have just as easily happened to any other shop that builds custom gaming
17:29 Rigs and sells them on their website so
17:32 they included velocity micro a small customer based in Virginia so their
17:37 action focuses on eight patents NVIDIA is alleged to have violated six and
17:42 included in the in the filing is a false advertising claim against NVIDIA um that
17:47 the statement about the Shield tablet with the K eger K1 processor is the
17:50 world's fastest mobile processor there saying it's fals and misleading so NVIDIA goes and like straight up puts
17:56 here's our benchmarks against the exos 54 433 that's in the Note 4 yeah you're
18:00 not faster yes NVIDIA did include a lot
18:04 of gaming focused benchmarks so are they spinning things a
18:08 little bit uh yes but they also included
18:13 some non-gaming Focus bench marks and it looks like if you were to just sort of
18:17 you fire a shotgun and if you hit sort
18:20 of you know the the Dozen or 15 or so
18:23 benchmarks that they ran you would hit more that NVIDIA wins than that Samsung
18:27 wins and uh pretty much here we go it's
18:31 unfortunate that Samsung sued velocity this isn't velocity's fight this is this
18:35 is just extremely this is just extremely crappy
18:39 a velocity and this isn't something that um that NVIDIA's put in their article
18:44 but it is something that I've seen in some of the articles about NVIDIA's blog
18:48 post but you know we got to consider when we shop a lot of different things
18:53 that often we don't we tend to look at a spec sheet we tend to look at a
18:57 benchmark Mar score and we tend to look at a price and then we go ahead and we
19:02 we make a purchasing decision but I
19:06 mean no one I shouldn't say no one I
19:09 think a lot of us are frustrated at times with the way that Apple behaves
19:13 with respect to its patents but is Samsung really being any less vindictive
19:18 and it's one thing if they're going to go after another big boy you know if
19:22 they're going to go after an apple or an NVIDIA but it's a whole other one if
19:26 they bring in a little company like velocity that didn't do anything other
19:29 than put NVIDIA graphics cards in their systems um just because and this is
19:34 NVIDIA's Theory this is allegedly just because Virginia tends to process these
19:39 filings extremely quickly and velocity had the bad luck to be located in
19:44 Virginia so just something to something to
19:49 consider oh there there is an open letter to the public from Randy Copeland
19:53 the CEO of velocity micro where he basically says look we know nothing
19:57 about thee previous issues between Samsung NVIDIA and we don't care you
20:01 know his response really had a very he had a very it had a very bitter tone to
20:06 it and he basically said we'll have to use company resources to defend
20:10 ourselves from Samsung and obviously
20:13 mismatched opponent and he says if this is how Samsung operates we want no part
20:18 of it and we hope others agree and we consider this during the upcoming
20:22 holiday shopping season can't say I disagree Mr cop who
20:28 I've actually never had the pleasure of meeting but seems like a nice enough guy
20:32 and doesn't deserve this kind of nonsense all right I've got another
20:35 Ubisoft thing here that I'm going to skip and wait for uh wait for Luke to
20:38 come in so he can weigh on but I have
20:41 the most hilarious thing that I probably
20:45 saw this entire week to show you guys here and I'm going to I'm going to fire
20:50 it up on on this computer so that I can screen share with you guys so you can
20:54 see this but this is freaking unreal gig
20:58 B releases a triple or show shows off I
21:02 don't think you can buy it yet I'd be surprised if you can ever buy it to be
21:06 perfectly honest um shoot where did it go I can buy you I'll buy your face oh
21:12 all right so the original article here is from tech power up let's go ahead and
21:16 do a quick screen share I don't know what's broken about my uh my stupid
21:21 thing here but I can't screen share again this week all right screen region
21:27 boom okay Gigabyte announces gtx980 water
21:32 Force Tri SLI all right so this is three
21:37 GTX 980s each with their own individual
21:42 120 mm radiator and 120 mm cooling fan
21:46 it features this massive like coolant
21:50 exos style external radiator system
21:54 thing and then presumably because Gigabyte wanted to use a prepackaged
22:00 solution um instead of going with a custom pump configuration and then
22:05 allowing one pump or even dual pumps to power the whole thing each of these is
22:11 its own separate allinone with its own
22:14 separate pump and then its own separate set of Inlet and Outlet lines into the
22:20 computer so you actually have to run all six of these tubes into your computer
22:26 with this box sitting next to it how are you even going to be able to do that
22:30 though uh because I could see like are they really really small tubing they
22:35 look like quarter inch to me oh man so they're not hyper small like you're
22:39 probably ripping a PCI like slot out of
22:42 the back gross on the back of your case cuz like you're not going to be able to
22:46 get through the included grommets and because it's pre-filled okay because
22:51 it's pre-filled you can't even like go through a grommet unless you could
22:55 thread your graphics card through your water cooling grommet
22:58 oh my God so this you wouldn't be able to go through one of the expansion card
23:02 slots either then oh yeah wait how's this even supposed to work I wonder if
23:06 they do have go through the maybe they have quick connects okay maybe I'm wrong
23:10 about this don't quote me on that the front you have to go through the
23:15 front no that's
23:20 horrible no they didn't even sleep the cable look look look look look this is
23:25 worse than I could have Poss
23:29 yeah they can yeah yeah they're looking at this right
23:32 now come on is that okay do they give
23:36 you a custom like B thing I guess so that is it isn't it
23:39 yeah wow just wow mind you mind you here
23:43 this is a value at it comes with this graphics card reinforcement cool bracket
23:50 doohickey bracket do hii and and so yeah
23:53 is that a custom that's a coolest lie Bridge yeah I'm not going to buy this to
24:00 get that SL hybridge mind you but um but I wouldn't buy that to buy the like
24:04 thing that looks like a BAL tire pump either so yeah welcome to the show thank
24:10 you um so I was saving the Ubisoft topics oh yeah so I should probably
24:14 finish up I should probably finish up that graphics card thing for you guys uh
24:19 each of the cards is going to be clocked at 1228 MHz core 1329 boost although of
24:23 course you'll be able to overclock them further at with 7 GHz on the memory
24:28 um the front panel can control fan speeds and coolant pressure of each of
24:33 the three Loops for whatever reason you wanted to
24:38 do that and I think that's pretty much
24:41 it it's fully assembled in the factory but I think that was implied when I said
24:44 these were these were pre-built yeah okay so let's start with uh let's start
24:50 with this article on PC pur.com and I
24:53 apologize for for this just being sort of a little bit cluggy this week I will
24:58 figure out what's wrong with the capture card um so here's the original article
25:02 from pcp.com it was post posted by obscure mammal on the Forum where um
25:08 Ryan had an article or had an opportunity to talk to the Ubisoft
25:13 development team about hey actually
25:16 didn't know about this article what the heck is what the heck is going on over
25:19 there um so basically the development team came back and said that Assassin's
25:25 Creed Unity is one of the most detailed games on the market it has a giant hold
25:31 on hold on just calm down Luke it has a giant open world city with tens of
25:35 thousands of objects visible on screen Paris is incredibly detailed for example
25:39 notredam is millions of triangles itself
25:43 it features Global illumination local Reflections realistic High dynamic range
25:47 lighting they talked about scaling down the quality to allow for lower system
25:52 requirements but decided against it because they were targeting existing PC
25:57 Hardware not future cards but high-end
26:01 existing PC hardware and this is a quote
26:04 our position always came back to us ensuring that Assassin's Creed Unity is
26:08 a nextg only game with breakthrough graphics with this Vision we did not
26:13 degrade the visual quality of the game
26:17 they are planning to continue working on optim oh I haven't been screen sharing
26:20 with you guys I'm sorry there's the article on PC per so yeah basically it's
26:28 it's just Ryan asking questions and
26:32 then a big long thing oh there's some updates since the last time I I had
26:39 uh okay so apparently okay okay okay so
26:43 there's updates we can actually chat about these updates very briefly but the
26:46 the the last part of what we originally sort of sort of knew about this was that
26:50 they're going to continue working on optimizations and you'll hear more details shortly so here's an update a
26:55 couple of other media Outlets have posted anonymous information that indicates that the draw call count for
27:00 Assassin's Creed uni is at fault for the poor poor performance of The Game on PCS
27:05 according to this quote unquote anonymous source while the consoles have
27:09 lowlevel API access to Hardware to accept and process several times the
27:13 number of draw calls that direct X11 can
27:16 um direct X11 is limited to 7 to 10,000
27:19 Peak draw calls while um the game is apparently pushing in
27:24 excess of 50,000 draw calls per
27:28 frame and then if this turns out to be true it would be a confir confirmation
27:33 that UBC didn't take the time to implement a direct directx11 Port
27:38 correctly and if it's not true or that's
27:41 only partially to blame then we're left with more meaningless finger pointing because people really want to point
27:46 fingers I've seen fingers pointed at NVIDIA Gameworks yeah I've seen fingers
27:50 pointed at Ubisoft um I actually don't
27:54 think I've seen anyone blame Microsoft for this one although you could make the
27:57 argument that if we're draw bound um the
28:01 overhead associated with DirectX 11 could be partially to blame given that
28:06 it's no secret that graphics card makers like AMD have been pushing for a lower
28:12 level API to the point where they went just went and created their own their
28:16 own for an awfully long time now um but
28:20 it makes a ton of sense especially
28:24 because even though we weren't able to do our own performance testing of
28:27 Assassin's Creed unity and I'll let you go on that very soon especially weren't
28:31 able to do our own today and yesterday which is what we wanted to do um it
28:34 makes sense given that we've looked at other people's performance analysis and
28:38 it just doesn't make any sense yeah we don't seem to be limited by the
28:43 traditional things like memory bandwidth
28:46 or you know fill rates or at the same
28:50 time though pretty much everyone that I've seen actually reporting numbers has
28:54 had like fairly blatant disclaimer being
28:58 like it's pretty spiky because like even even the amount
29:01 of times that I was able to get it live like I could be just staring at one
29:05 exact wall and like I lined up framings with like okay there's a Groove along
29:10 the wall here I put my screen exactly on that Groove stand on this I stand on
29:13 exactly the spot like I had the framing perfect and I'd look at it and get 63
29:18 FPS and I'd look away and come back and
29:21 now I'm at 52 and I'm
29:25 like wow bro I'm staring at the same wall like it should be the exact same
29:30 performance and it's just not like why not what is wrong with you so are we
29:36 actually here so why don't you give the update on your experience with
29:39 Assassin's Creed Unity so far okay so I'm sure they want to hear from
29:42 you it's awesome oh hold on hold on hold
29:45 on yeah there's a the little look I don't
29:50 know if we supposed to anyways um uh
29:54 that's my that's on my shirt I'll hold really still yeah there you go um so it
29:59 it started off I showed up to work quite early today cuz I was like I need to get
30:03 this testing done before the W show trying to be all good Samaritan and get
30:08 you guys a video Yeah didn't get a successful boot for what 2 and a half
30:14 hours yeah no you were talking to me at like4 to 9 the first message I sent to
30:19 you was I think you hadn't had it booted yet yeah I think the first message I
30:23 sent to you was before 7 cuz I got to work pretty early I don't think I
30:27 replied to that one no no not till later I was sleeping I I thought so I just
30:31 wanted to send that message before I forgot about it anyways um had tons of
30:35 issues like I I could load in and then
30:39 take like two steps and I'd lose connectivity to you play so the whole
30:43 game would just crash it wouldn't go like oh you're offline now you can't
30:46 open those stupid freaking chests no you actually can't play at all and it's not
30:51 like it just closes the game the whole thing just like gray screens and then
30:55 does that like uh Microsoft is trying to figure out what just happened to this
30:59 program we don't really know do you want to end it I like of course it's trash um
31:03 anyways so then eventually I'm like I I
31:07 messaged lonus and I was like should I just go offline mode or should I go
31:11 online mode like there's a noticeable performance increase when you go to
31:14 offline mode which is hilarious and I voted for offline mode because I figure
31:20 they've got to patch this I'm sure that if there's that much of a performance
31:24 disparity just between being
31:28 and being offline they can probably implement that fairly easily so I was
31:32 like okay test offline and then hopefully that'll represent what people
31:35 will be getting once the next patch shows up okay go ahead okay so so we're
31:40 going along it's it's it's kind of working now I still have a few issues
31:44 but I get over most of those and I I I get through it and I'm finally like okay
31:48 I need to finally find a benchmarking run I had planned to have a benchmarking
31:52 run way before now sorry of course it's
31:55 trash Luke 24 I had planned to have a benchmarking run
32:00 way before now I'm kind of worried cuz I need to get all these cards done but at
32:03 the same time I'm like 3/4 these cards aren't going to work anyways so whatever
32:08 probably won't be as hard as I'm expecting it to be um finally loaded to
32:12 the game and at this point I'm like okay I need at least at least a little bit of
32:17 a fighting scene and I need a little bit of free running and then I'll be happy I
32:22 don't need much like I just need something that'll work and I'll just say
32:25 in the video that it's not great because I ran time CU it was broken and a
32:28 benchmark run doesn't necessarily have to be representative of the most
32:32 demanding scene in the entire game in fact a lot of the time it's not because
32:35 we're looking for repeatability so a benchmarking run should should be
32:40 demanding enough that there isn't an obvious CPU bottleneck and you're going
32:44 to want to try and show some amount of variance so like explosions and wide
32:48 shots and close shots and lots of people and different things well like we want
32:52 to get a feel for how the engine performs and then we want to be able to
32:55 rank graphics cards against
33:01 perance quantif FPS will get if I'm
33:05 running a similar configuration to them in this spot in the game if I upgrade my
33:09 graphics card to this that's what we want you guys to
33:12 know anyways so I I found a spot that
33:15 was actually not too bad and it's pretty close to the beginning of the game you
33:19 spawn in I'm not going to give any spoilers but you spawn in you run forward and follow some dude there's a
33:24 fairly quick little sequence thing you run a little bit further you stab some
33:28 dude you run a little bit further there's a little quick sequence thing
33:31 you climb up some stuff you climb up some more stuff y y fairly straightforward and it captured the main
33:35 things that I wanted to find and I was like okay this can kind of work but
33:40 considering how fast I found that I actually have a little bit of extra time
33:44 let's see if I can push on forward and see if there's maybe a little bit more fighting scene because I literally just
33:48 ran past this dude poked him twice and then kept going that's all the fighting
33:52 I got and I knew people would have been like H this isn't Assassin's Creed you
33:56 have to stab more more people so I was like okay whatever I'll try to find something really quick run forward kill
34:02 some guy that I didn't really seem was I didn't think was super important in
34:05 hindsight like it kind of makes sense but it went into this crazy long stream
34:10 of annoyingly not skippable for a lot of them cutcenes which ended up being like
34:15 8 minutes or something which if I had any amount of sound might have been good
34:19 but I didn't cuz I'm on a benchmarking rig yeah so I'm just like sure I have no
34:24 idea what's happening you guys are talking that's cool anyways it goes to
34:28 the next sequence I'm like oh okay well how do I
34:32 get back to the last one cuz that's where my benchmarking run is you can't
34:39 you can't go back at least at this point in the game I don't know if maybe later
34:43 on you're able to go into the the thing that I'm going to not spoiler and go
34:47 back but at this point in the game you can't go back in sequences you also
34:52 can't delete your save file and you can't restart the game so you have your
34:58 one save file and you have the furthest progress you've gotten to in that save
35:03 file what so for the next little while I
35:06 was very surprised that you couldn't do that in game for one but then
35:10 immediately I'm like okay whatever I'll just do the super ghetto option and go
35:14 delete it from either I'm assuming my documents or app data or inside the game
35:19 folder not super likely that it's inside the game folder because you'd lose your
35:23 saves if you uninstalled the game but it's possible I start looking around and
35:28 I can't find Jack I can't find anything I I found a save games folder with
35:33 folders that were just extremely long random strings of characters and inside
35:37 those folders just files that were just random numbers I'm like sweet found a
35:43 couple that were from today but like I didn't want to delete the wrong stuff so
35:47 I started looking online and I started tweeting and I asked people and some
35:50 people shared some ideas someone was like oh it's file 740 or 720 or
35:55 something I don't remember so are looking for that F
35:59 420 um so I I but they can't be
36:03 high because you can only run the game on they keep on digging oh there's two
36:08 jokes there good one um anyways So eventually I fig okay
36:15 it was supposed to be a folder named 720 but there was no folder named 720 but I
36:19 found a file named 720 which was created
36:22 today so I was like oh awesome okay we found it successful delete load the game
36:28 save still there what what okay so I go and nuke like
36:34 every single file that's been created today like everything I can find just
36:39 destroy everything whatever like if I have to redownload a small part of the
36:43 game at least I have the bulk of it just go to like destroy everything mode it
36:47 takes a while to find everything delete it all launch the game file still there
36:52 I still have my progression file I'm like what the crap what is going on why
36:57 can't I get rid of you why won't you go away and then I'm like oh okay someone
37:03 posted online even if you're on offline mode maybe one of the things that keeps
37:07 functioning if you have internet is your Cloud saves right so I'm like actually
37:12 that kind of makes sense cuz maybe you go into offline mode to like hide from
37:15 people maybe it's their version of anonymous but you don't want to lose
37:18 your save files maybe like okay that's
37:21 actually not a horrible feature I'm down with that okay fine I
37:26 don't know how many people would I'd love it if we could just manage our save
37:29 files normally anyway exactly yeah but
37:32 or if it was like steam where you could be like I want to use the cloud SA or
37:37 don't yeah yeah options are good thanks
37:40 Ubisoft except no thanks steam um so I'm
37:45 like okay disable go back through I find those old files that I just deleted
37:50 again so I'm like oh they're Cloud syncing that totally makes sense cuz it
37:54 recreated them right right so I'm like all right right cool delete them all
37:58 loadad the game save file still there so basically in a nutshell we're
38:05 going to try and figure this out yeah uh but it's just it just might take some
38:08 time and normally finding an Assassin's Creed run is just a matter of me making
38:12 sure Luke gets provided with a review copy of the game that he doesn't have to
38:16 pay for and he just goes and plays it because he's going to play it anyway because he's the biggest fraking
38:20 Assassin's Creed Fanboy ever like have you 100% did every game up till now yes
38:25 yeah so there you go so usually finding an Assassin's Creed run is as simple as
38:29 Luke kind of having it in the back of his mind while he sits and like yeah
38:32 zombies out at his at his computer for 4 days after launch you know what I'm
38:36 trying to think Black Flag you were a zombie for about a week after launch cuz
38:41 as far as I can tell that was all you were doing outside of work time have you
38:45 even been tempted to touch Unity no and I haven't wow I've been working in my
38:50 spory time instead of playing and you've even played Assassin's Creed games 100%
38:54 at Assassin's Creed games that by your own admission weren't that great no I
38:58 hated three three sucked wow I was not a
39:01 fan of three at all so in the spirit of
39:04 keep on digging we are finally releasing
39:08 the keep on digging shirt are we yes
39:12 it's ready the campaign is ready we were supposed to have shirts to wear today
39:17 you get banned from spanning your own channel really I think so oh all right
39:22 well um just cuz that was that was just a lot I actually really want this shirt
39:26 so oh I am I am super stoked on this
39:29 shirt because the way we design the shirt it's not just to be used on
39:33 Ubisoft necessarily you can keep on digging
39:37 anything so the previous keep on digging even though we didn't use that
39:40 terminology would have been EA so now we're just it's now Ubisoft and whoever
39:45 e was brofist yeah that's true that's the origin of brofist that was the when
39:49 we started brofisting on the show yeah wow that was so all these gaming
39:53 companies start our memes I know thank you for being ter
39:57 and keep on keep on digging like I I know that I didn't invent the phrase
40:01 keep on digging but did did I popularize it yeah for Ubisoft yeah yes it's all
40:07 over the place cuz there have been some fantastic keep on digging me St on like
40:14 PC Master race on our own Forum um I've
40:17 seen a lot of gifs of me digging on the show so guys if you want to rep if you
40:24 want to rep just the keep on digging this the amount of hatred that this
40:29 morning that is that is going on right now show your support for Luke keep on
40:34 diing t-shirt um oh good we have hoodies oh I
40:39 might have to order a hoodie cuz the uh the the the Highlander
40:43 hoodie I have is awesome it's super nice is it the same kind yeah it's the same
40:47 one it's the it's the same Gilden one I wasn't sure about Gilden hoodies when we
40:52 first um there we go when we first
40:55 ordered our our Highlander stuff and I just kind of ordered one hoping it would
40:58 be nice and I was checking if there were better options and that was all they
41:02 really had but it's like super nice you saw it right yeah so I I definitely want
41:06 like a keep on digging hoodie yeah me too I'm going to buy
41:11 one every every winter season I get like a new hoodie this was last season so I
41:16 need a new one yeah so everyone was everyone was pretty darn stoked with the
41:20 uh with the quality of the Highlander shirts so that's why we're going ahead
41:24 with Teespring again cuz they did a great job of uh of that campaign I had
41:29 uh a guy on the Forum and stuff Str strore map had two shirts from I think
41:34 one from district lines and one from Teespring both show up with little holes
41:39 in them and he got both of them promptly replaced nice yeah so that's good all
41:47 right I feel like I had more crap to throw at e or Ubisoft oh no there
41:52 there's more like there's a there's a there's some crap going on with respect
41:56 to to Far Cry 4 review copies oh polygon
41:59 didn't get one really yeah they have
42:02 like a developer version that they can't use to actually review the game and then
42:06 they couldn't get it working on any of their PlayStation 4s and then they just
42:10 so they're just like so yeah we're other Publications got retail copies we don't
42:15 really understand why we don't have one so we're just going to go buy a retail
42:18 copy we'll have a review for you guys as soon as possible wow yeah they've got a
42:22 blog post up I was like really messed up oh jeez and then
42:28 what was it Assassin's Creed Unity the Embargo date was 12 hours after the
42:32 release um total actually this ties into
42:35 hold on let me just biscuit made a video for that didn't he I don't know if he
42:39 made a video about it but um okay I here
42:42 can I can I do our next news article first then um but this is great I'm so
42:47 happy with this I'm going to talk about total biscuits thing so Ubisoft stock
42:51 and I actually haven't looked at it today so this is the old headline but
42:55 Ubisoft stock fell 99.33% um direct immediately after the
43:00 Assassin's Creed Unity launch I mean we
43:04 are talking not inconsequential amounts of money and I am so glad because I I am
43:11 a huge advocate for gamers voting with
43:14 their wallets if you don't like it not
43:17 only don't play it or no excuse me not only don't buy it don't even play it
43:23 don't even give them the opportunity to look at like piracy you know seeds and
43:28 Torrance and and and try to extrap take those as positive metrics yes they can
43:33 interpret that positively even by downloading it you can be supporting
43:38 what they're doing if you ignore Far Cry
43:41 4 if every single one of you and all of your friends ignore Far Cry 4 and all of
43:47 their friends and all of their friends if you can make a difference to the
43:51 pocketbooks of these companies they will treat you like your voice actually
43:55 matters because because as long as you keep giving them money your voice doesn't matter not at all y the only
44:00 reason why we wanted to do and still kind of want to do an Assassin's Creed
44:03 Unity benchmarking video and the only reason we will want to do a Far Cry 4
44:06 video is that we can warn everyone essentially like look at this crap it
44:11 doesn't freaking work don't buy it we're not a we're not a gaming publication we
44:16 are a hardware publication so we're going to look at it from a hardware
44:19 perspective this is how well this piece of Hardware handles this game and then
44:24 we're going to do some investigation which is going to take a lot of detective work in this case to figure
44:28 out why this particular game doesn't run well on that particular hardware and
44:33 we're going to come to a conclusion that should be fairly obvious by this point in time because it's trash because we
44:37 want you guys to know this stuff but we're not going to be doing Let's Plays
44:40 of Assassin's Creed Unity no well exactly two minutes yeah in a way that
44:46 you probably shouldn't play the game unless you're so we're going to
44:50 have it open on our computers un unless you're very
44:54 specifically trying to B bench market so to be clear you know a stock dip like
45:00 this can be temporary it might not be indicative of a long-term struggle I
45:04 wouldn't be surprised if it bounced back at least a little bit but it can be a
45:09 warning sign and it can be and at least if nothing else it's going to be an
45:14 attention grabber because Executives and bean counters will notice that even if
45:19 they're not reading you know every comment in the twitch chat of the Linus
45:24 Tech W show stream you know yeah exactly
45:28 not watching which I feel very disconnected from cuz I don't have my laptop right now oh you don't have a
45:32 laptop wow you're like a you're like a
45:36 you're like a peasant of no laptop of
45:40 why don't you just um here why don't I message well no because the the the the
45:44 peasants are defined by their disbelief
45:47 of PCS being better that's true I didn't mean console peasant I just meant your a
45:52 wow peasant because glorious wow Master
45:56 race people have laptops so so okay yeah that's really
46:01 unfortunate I'll ask Nick to bring you one okay cool um okay so let's let's
46:06 sort of let's keep going here um right so it's it's probably going to bounce
46:10 back at least a little bit I hope it doesn't bounce back that much um I don't
46:14 want Ubisoft to die Ubisoft has been a good company at some points in time I
46:19 think they just need a like massive B slap to the face so they wake the hell
46:24 up and stop being idiots yeah let's just bring back our keep on
46:28 keep on digging lower third because we're still talking Ubisoft they're like half the show this week and it's not
46:33 like we want to talk about Ubisoft I'd love for us to be I'd love for us to
46:36 just be talking about what like what a great game Assassin's Creed Unity is and
46:40 how stoked we are for Far Cry 4 I would love that to be the topic that is the
46:43 conversation we love Black Flag was amazing and Far Cry 3 was really really
46:48 good and you know know what incredible okay what news did they get over last
46:51 week what news did they somehow get through I don't even remember something
46:56 really big last week that I don't remember oh yeah yeah they pulled
46:59 everything from uh from Steam yeah but no yeah but then it's it's back now
47:03 there was other news though that was really big and we were like I can't
47:07 believe you were even noticed like you made yourself no this was going on
47:10 either way oh blon BlizzCon right BlizzCon was going on and people still
47:14 heard about what the hell Ubisoft was doing because they were bcon was such a
47:18 big deal this year bcon was huge and then now there was just the uh warland
47:22 of dra or release and everyone's freaking out over U
47:26 soft what how are you that
47:31 bad I'm kind of tempted to pick again
47:35 really should I just not last time you got pretty I know last
47:39 time was bad okay forget it I'm not going to I'm just going to repair my joystick and play more xwing um okay
47:44 maybe wait till your kids are at like a minimum age so this was original
47:48 articles here this was posted by I'm the wallus by the way the Ubisoft stock
47:52 falling thing um original sources here were kit guru.net and finance. yahoo.com
47:57 um but there were also some other things that were that were brought up by these
48:00 other articles um we might not even need a charger I think it's charg right yeah
48:05 yeah just uh yay Luke will have a laptop thank you but um one of the other things
48:09 that was pointed out was that things are not looking that great for Far Cry 4
48:13 because some Publications didn't get review copies yeah so um yeah not
48:19 necessarily a great sign and then and like with with stuff like that uh that
48:24 polygon post like people are going to read that and that is going to be taken
48:30 as a negative review if people are reading into it properly yeah I would
48:33 yeah the fact that you for whatever reason are not enabling as many
48:38 Publications as possible to get their hands on this game so that they can Rave
48:43 about how great it is is a really really bad sign and I mean total biscuits
48:48 comment I think is is awesome about the way that the Assassin's Creed Unity
48:53 embargo was handled where the review embargo was not lifted until 12 hours
48:59 after the game's retail availability which is given the way that games cannot
49:04 be refunded anymore if you buy a physical copy or really any copy um is
49:10 is really telling I mean that really says something about how they might have
49:15 felt about how quickly they needed to cash in on the immediate launch sales
49:20 before the reviews go up and people start maybe considering whether to wait
49:24 for even Far Cry for or some other game to spend their money on
49:30 um not not good not good I I would lose
49:33 consumer confidence basically immediately if I had a Far Cry 4 uh
49:38 pre-order which I don't but if I did have one I honestly probably would have
49:43 canceled it once I read that polygon post cuz I'm I'm pretty skeptical
49:48 already there's very few things that I'll pre-order I'll pre-order stuff like
49:52 uh Smash Bros for Wii U you would have normally pre-ordered Assassin's Creed
49:55 actually yes I would have normally done that I have done that for every single other Assassin's Creed launch but this
49:59 one yeah so anyway total biscuit came out and said he is not going to accept
50:04 review copies of any game that has an embargo that is after the launch time of
50:10 the game which is awesome which is awesome and uh and I think I think
50:13 that's I think that's great I think that's a great way to handle it and it just I I actually responded to I think
50:18 it was that tweet or one of the related ones just cuz I was so blown away that
50:23 you could have a review embar after people are expected to drop their
50:29 money for the game I mean no one in the hardware industry does that no one and
50:33 you know what and and you know what John John TotalBiscuit has has actually
50:37 tweeted me as well saying that he has no
50:40 idea how we seem to kind of pull off this weird thing where our advertisers
50:45 are Hardware companies and yet we criticize these companies openly on our
50:51 shows and in our reviews and and some
50:55 somehow we've managed to take money from these companies for advertising maintain
50:59 the trust of our viewers and maintain the relationships with these companies
51:03 and do it all at the same time and he was just like how does this even work I
51:07 think it's because there's a much different mentality with like computer
51:11 hardware companies and gaming companies canuter Hardware companies seem like
51:15 infinitely humble and they'll take whatever you say and they're just like yes okay next time we do better and and
51:21 that's not true of all of them but that's true of many of them they just
51:24 seem to be so much more mature than these gaming companies like someone like
51:29 Corsair if I come out and I slam them about something I'll get an email but
51:34 they're not going to pull our funding they're not going to pull they're not
51:37 going to refuse to work with us they're not going to stop seing us review samples because they value the
51:44 input what a what a freaking concept right oh my God
51:49 amazing not really with gaming in gaming
51:52 they they they they tote their marketing muscles as as much as they possibly can
51:56 try to silence anyone that they possibly can that would say anything negative
51:59 about them at all and then just try to slam games down your throat and then and
52:04 it is a generalization pour the DLC water down not every gaming company is
52:08 like this no praise G Ben um praise gin
52:13 uh what is it super giant games does really well there's definitely developers and Publishers that are that
52:17 are good and there's ones that mostly seem to try to do the right thing but
52:22 sometimes screw up and we have to understand and respect that too and
52:25 that's fine people are human they make mistakes we make mistakes um but it just
52:30 feels Ubisoft screw up looks feels like some like Cartoon Network like where
52:36 they just keep falling forever it's like EA last year yeah where just every week
52:42 there they were doing something horrendous they they fall down the hill
52:45 and gather so much momentum because the hill is so large that they have enough
52:49 momentum to climb up the next one and then fall down it over again like
52:54 ridiculous stop screwing up hit a wall
52:57 at some point and then just be like no we will be better we're going to shut up
53:00 we're going to say nothing we're just going to make games that hopefully
53:04 people want to play yeah if they stop talking and start working some more
53:08 maybe they can fix some of their crap I am just I am I I got to say the whole
53:14 thing with the the draw call issue in Assassin's Creed Unity is so believable
53:18 yeah because their whole thing their whole defense of unity to Ryan from PC
53:24 per was is we weren't going to dumb down the level the detail and the objects in
53:28 the city it like and every object is a draw call yeah and and when uh when when
53:35 Call of Duty like massively outclasses you in every possible appearance aspect
53:41 that's bad you did something wrong I
53:45 know like Assassin's Creed is supposed to be the like holy crap this game looks
53:49 good I mean Advanced Warfare should have been taking all the headlines for crap
53:55 and instead I mean everyone's like oh it's pretty good you know it's probably
54:01 unfortunate that they didn't publish after Assassin's Creed in Far Cry 4 so
54:06 they could have cuz I suspect a lot of people because you know how it's always
54:10 whatsoever The Horizon you never look back at what was that thing I didn't buy
54:15 it's always like okay well Far Cry 4 is coming next or this is coming next or
54:18 whatever's coming next we coming get later I feel like if they had just kind
54:23 of waited for all the people who didn't spend their money on all the stuff that
54:27 came before them they could have gotten an even bigger payday probably I I doubt
54:32 they needed I'm sure they did fine yeah yeah I'm sure they did totally fine but
54:36 it's just it's just like how did you get
54:39 graphically outclassed whoa whoa Photoshop CS6 says lonus doesn't even
54:43 play video games lonus doesn't game as much as he'd like to that doesn't mean
54:46 lonus doesn't play video games he's starting to a lot more lately too yeah
54:50 I've been finding a little bit more time for it especially on my shield yeah
54:53 speaking of Shield um actually that leads us really well into not a Ubisoft
54:59 topic y um and Vidia just announced that their
55:05 grid streaming service and this was um this was posted by jper 10996 on the
55:11 Forum and the original source is the NVIDIA blog um but grid is coming out of
55:16 beta so grid has 20 titles right now
55:19 including actually I'm just going to fire up the grid game list here but they've got a Arkham Asylum Arkham City
55:25 they've got Allan Wake uh American Nightmare they've got Darksiders
55:29 Darksiders 2 Dead Island Psychonauts which is a freaking awesome game by the
55:33 way if you have a shield and you have an internet connection that's good enough
55:36 for grid go play Psychonauts if you haven't already Saints R II Trine 2
55:40 Witcher 2 Ultra Street Fighter 4 like there's some pretty great games on this
55:45 list what's the like payment plan stuff for this does it just come with a shield
55:49 or okay so the beta's been free for anyone with a shield and the non data is
55:55 free for anyone with a shield until June 2015 okay so you get about 6 months of
56:01 free access to the game pretty good actually that's a lot more than a trial
56:06 yes which considering the cost of something like a Shield tablet and and a
56:11 controller when you are when you look at the Shield tablet as oh it's also a very
56:14 competent 7in tablet um is actually a pretty darn compelling value yeah that
56:19 feels a lot like the I'm trying to remember the name of it but those HP
56:23 things yeah yeah yeah the um streams
56:26 yeah where you get so much stuff with them yeah where you get not just value
56:30 ad stuff that's like hey you got a 30-day trial of maca can I interest you
56:33 in paying us it's not even value ad just like where there's real value ads that
56:38 are relevant to the people who are using that device so so you get 6 months for
56:42 free if you buy if you buy a shield now um they're recommending 10 megabits per
56:46 second down and 60 millisecond second ping or less to your nearest grid server
56:52 but they're expanding their grid server Network so there's already the one in
56:55 California they've added one in Indiana
56:59 and EU and Asia are soon to come so
57:02 they're it looks like what they're building is and they're it looks like
57:07 it's meant to be about like Netflix for games yeah now you can say what you will
57:11 about the 60 millisecond additional latency that is not going to be
57:15 palatable for certain types of games are you going to play CSO with an extra 60
57:19 milliseconds of lag no no but you probably wouldn't have played that on a
57:22 controller but are you going to play Darksiders sure sure why not probably
57:25 that's probably fine cool yeah um all right they've also
57:30 got other news The Shield tablet is getting Android 5.0 Lollipop in a few
57:34 days yeah I they're going to be they're going to be I think I was on the phone
57:37 with someone from NVIDIA today actually and he was saying I don't remember if he
57:41 said they're going to be the first or one of the first uh one of the first
57:46 advice makers whose name is not Google to have lollipop on their device I mean
57:50 NVIDIA committed back when they launched Shield portable to prompt Android update
57:55 but come on we've heard that we've heard it over and over again how many prompt
58:00 Android updates have you gotten for your Galaxy Device one per device is usually about
58:06 the general rule yeah and then you might get an update but everyone else has been
58:11 using it for six months nine months by the time you get it if at all um whereas
58:16 NVIDIA's like on this yeah it's actually kind of absolutely fantastic if I do say
58:22 so myself it's nice to see that especially when you're getting a device
58:26 that like talking to people that aren't you
58:31 about Shield is like often they don't really know what it is or they're like H
58:36 is there really a lot of support for it like I don't really see anyone using it
58:40 now I see it around a fair amount when looking at stuff like the r forum and
58:44 like within the office and like these closed ecosystems but I got a message
58:49 from someone either on the for or Twitter where they told me how the
58:53 shield was kind of embarrassing to be out about with because people kept asking if it's a portable
58:57 Xbox sorry go on but yeah just to illustrate the point but yeah like it's
59:01 it's it's it's very new and it's very
59:05 different so people are a little bit skeptical about it so I think it's
59:08 actually really good for them that they're getting these like they're
59:11 pushing the update thing really really hard and they're actually repeatedly
59:14 getting these really early updates which is awesome because that's just going to
59:18 increase um confidence that they are interesting products and they are
59:22 they're really good would you buy an NVIDIA phone
59:26 actually probably cuz I know you're not into the tablet thing so much not really
59:32 and phones the only reason I'm not super into phones the only reason is because
59:36 most of them are trash that's a strong statement it's
59:41 true though like there's so like there's so many that have glaring issues that
59:45 you like know someone must have figured out and then the Droid Turbo is just not
59:49 coming to Canada at all in no form my
59:53 brother tweeted them and asked and they were like no the droid turbo or
59:56 variation Max are not coming to Canada officially from Motorola oh that's a
60:00 bummer awesome what the hell the one phone that's like that's super cool nope
60:06 god wow that's really sucky I mean it's
60:09 not going to happen with Tegra K1 because Tegra K 1's power consumption is
60:13 just straight up too high but if Tegra K2 or whatever they end up calling it
60:19 came to a phone would you consider it I mean they're not that far away they've
60:23 already got the the tablet 32 gig which has LTE and they did acquire that LTE
60:28 radio technology maker not that long ago so they can build their own radios I I
60:33 don't think it's that difficult to I don't think it's that difficult to I'd
60:37 be really interested to I would check it out I'd want to check it out for sure
60:40 definitely want to check it out uh if if they got the if they got the the battery
60:43 capacity right and they had a not trash
60:47 camera I would be definitely confident enough in the rest of the phone to be
60:51 like all right let's do this NVIDIA is one of those companies where I think the
60:54 camera could go one of two ways they could either have a bunch of Knowledge
60:58 from cuz they know a lot about image processing yeah that's interesting it's
61:02 not like they don't have experience when it comes to image filtering to make
61:05 things look better this is NVIDIA's
61:09 freaking wheelhouse but that doesn't necessarily
61:12 mean they know that much about sensor technology so so I I don't know which
61:16 way the camera would go and that's a huge part of any smartphone purchase um
61:20 one thing of just to note is that right now the 32 gig version of The Shield
61:25 tablet lvid is on fire with this announcement here comes with Portal
61:30 halflife 2 and halflife 2 episode one holy crap Android versions if you jump
61:34 up to that one in addition to the grid thing and those are all pretty good to
61:37 play on that device as well actually especially portal Portal's really good I
61:41 play portal on the shield portable yeah yeah um and shield portable is getting
61:45 lollipop support but we don't have an ETA for that yet so I'll have to wait
61:49 cuz I don't really use my Shield tablet much I mostly use my portable yeah all
61:53 right other NVIDIA news this was posted by big STS on the Forum the original
61:58 article is from techreport tocom the
62:02 gtx960 has been found in an India Import
62:06 and Export label or data or something the record States four GB of gddr5 a
62:12 256-bit bus 993 MHz core and 68 MHz
62:17 memory it's unclear whether that is a base or a boost clock speed and the
62:22 price translates to around 256 US Dollars although we don't know if that
62:26 will be a retail price or if that's like an NVIDIA to their board partner price
62:31 or a board partner to retailer price or just an invented number or if they're
62:35 going to flip it 18 times 3 days before it's out because they kind of do that
62:39 sometimes because they do do that sometimes um the speculation on the
62:43 internet right now is that this is going to be a GK 104 based card so actually
62:48 the same chip as the 980 and 970 just like we saw with the 680 670 and 660
62:56 Ti um we should probably do our sponsor spots actually so we're going to start
63:01 with the one that I hopefully label yay Phantom glass so phandom glass we love
63:06 these guys uh for any of the viewers who have watched before you know what the
63:11 sales pitch for Phantom glass doesn't really change so I do find myself
63:15 repeating myself a fair bit but it doesn't need to change because it's good
63:20 enough as it is the only reason that we started working with these guys was that
63:24 and it's just kind of a funny story The only reason I reviewed the product at
63:28 all was because the guy was Canadian because normally screen protectors I
63:34 don't we've only done two screen protector videos in the entire time lus
63:38 techtips has existed and they've both been like very oddly Innovative yes some
63:43 kind of real actual important thing that
63:46 happened with them so the only reason I would even listen to him was he was
63:50 Canadian and then the only reason I wanted to review unit was because I I
63:54 was like okay if this does what you say it
63:58 does I will like it but if it doesn't do
64:01 what you say it does then I'm going to throw it in the garbage and never talk about it again and he was like okay okay
64:06 okay send over the review unit and then the reason that we're doing advertising
64:10 with them is because it's freaking awesome basically it's a sheet of
64:13 Gorilla Glass 3 that sits over top of the existing pain of Glass on your phone
64:18 so if you already liked any kind of the
64:21 you know the the glare Clarity um touch
64:24 feel characteristics of your phone screen it will be exactly the same it
64:29 does add a little bit of thickness to the front of the phone but it's still compatible with other third party cases
64:34 and it has this like Nano coating on the bottom of it that actually works like it
64:40 actually does what they say it does it's I think you'd have to work pretty hard
64:43 to try to get a bubble under Phantom glass and if you apply it wrong you can
64:48 just pull it up reapply it I've actually done it and it goes on perfectly second
64:52 time around so pretty cool I mean if it's given that it's kind of expensive
64:57 it's nice to be able to reuse it because I actually had to RMA my HTC 1 M8 so I
65:01 had to pull my Fass off yeah you peeled it yeah so I put it in some Saran Wrap
65:05 to keep it safe cuz I don't really have the original packaging anymore and uh
65:09 there you go my One M8 is actually back as of yesterday and uh before we move
65:14 into our next sponsor spot just wanted to share my experience with that so I
65:17 was a little disappointed with HTC because the first custo I my one8 camera
65:22 lens cracked on my rear camera cracked and so rather than work through my HTC
65:27 rep I decided you know what just for fun I'm going to go have the regular
65:30 customer defective product experience because it just cracked out of the blue
65:35 there wasn't a single Mark anywhere on the entire phone other than a cracked
65:39 rear camera screen so I would have had to I would have had to literally take
65:43 like drop it on like a very point of a rock but then catch it before it
65:48 actually hits the ground yeah or like take a chisel and like whack it or
65:52 something in order to crack that thing so it in my mind this is not something
65:56 that could have been feasibly broken by accident and I see it as a design like
66:02 probably the one design flaw in that
66:06 phone that I really dislike is that they used a plastic cover on it there's
66:11 actual Flex to it okay maybe not actually it might not be plastic okay I
66:14 shouldn't say plastic maybe it's some kind of composite or glass or whatever
66:18 else but it's got some real Flex to it once it was broken and it has a coating
66:22 on it that scratches off very easily just taking it in and out of your pocket
66:25 and gives you blurry photos until you rub it off with toothpaste this is a documented problem so I talked to their
66:29 customer service and they basically the first person I talked to said seem to be
66:35 aware of the issue and said yeah that should be no problem to to for it to be
66:39 covered under warranty but they asked me to call my carrier to ask if they'll
66:44 deal with the RMA for me because I'm in Canada and that's the normal procedure I
66:48 kind of went yeah sure okay so I called my carrier they didn't deal with it because I didn't buy the device from
66:52 them I knew that was going to happen but I jumped through the hoop just to humor
66:55 them so I called back and they told me they couldn't guarantee anything about
66:59 the repair and then it turned out that they did want to charge me over $100 for
67:03 the repair even though and the repair center was not willing to Advocate to
67:08 HTC on my behalf or anything like that I basically said you guys are experts you
67:12 look at phones every day is it even
67:16 possible is it even conceivable in any way that I could have damaged the phone
67:19 in this way at all or does this seem like the
67:23 kind of cuz it just cracked out of the blue and they just went you have to talk
67:28 to HTC so I didn't pay the money I ended up just going through my HTC contact
67:32 telling them I was being jerked around and they got it taken care of within like an hour cuz that's normally the way
67:38 that that I get treated but I was I was disappointed in the way that an actual
67:43 customer um would would be treated in
67:46 that case yeah that's kind of that's kind of sad the problem the problem too
67:51 though is that like I get it physical damage is generally not not covered
67:54 under warranty yeah but if it's a known issue it generally is so it's a matter
68:00 of whether they're acknowledging the issue or not the internet knows about
68:03 the issue I don't know if the internet knows about a cracking issue but the
68:07 problem is that my my rear camera was scratched already before it even cracked
68:12 so I should have been eligible for a replacement had i r made it sooner and
68:16 it had not cracked on its own anyway so that's why I was so upset so I get it I
68:21 understand I'm just a little bit disappointed I've had to deal with very
68:25 few like very few uh customer service
68:28 for like ship out and repair stuff uh one of them was uh an Xbox 360 which was
68:34 hilarious um and that was actually super easy right because they were all red
68:39 ringing so I'm sure their whole Factory was just like in- and out in- and out
68:43 in- and out in- and out um because it was just a swap and then the other one
68:48 was uh evj when I was doing my mineral oil computer and that was like the best
68:54 on the phone experience with someone who is supposed to help me in any form Ever
68:58 right yeah EVGA is kind of Legend always liked them because of that their their
69:02 customer service was fantastic all right so let's move on to speaking of
69:06 fantastic customer service and super easy to use squarespace.com oh yeah with
69:12 their 247 support and their well
69:15 basically it's just a great service we love Squarespace we love those guys and
69:19 they are on fire L lately they recently
69:22 introduced Squarespace 7 and it's a huge
69:25 upgrade over the previous iteration so
69:28 they've redesigned the interface they've got integration with Google Apps which
69:32 is really cool for any businesses that use Google apps like say for example the
69:36 one that you're looking at right now we use can I help you oops we use Gmail for
69:42 uh for our internal email and all that kind of stuff um they've got their new
69:45 partnership with Getty Images so that you can have greatl looking images to
69:49 match your greatl looking site you know the the funny thing about Squarespace is
69:53 it feels like some of the stuff they do is more selfish than anything else it
69:58 feels like okay so the partnership with Getty Images is basically you can get
70:02 very reasonably priced beautiful images to put on your site but it seems like
70:06 they're just a bunch of Geeks care about websites looking really great yeah and
70:11 they're then they don't want to see people take their beautiful template and put some crap image on it so it's like
70:17 it's it's almost like and I'm not saying selfish in that it's not beneficial to
70:21 the user I'm just saying it seems like like they just kind of are like oh they
70:26 like don't screw their stuff in bad ways yeah take good images we really love our
70:30 product and we wish you wouldn't like make it ugly than it has to be so we're
70:34 going to get you guys this like great less expensive gy images thing and you
70:38 can get that get go get good images don't pay much for them um they've got
70:42 new templates they've got cover pages and
70:46 um yeah I guess that's isn't isn't that
70:49 it right yes um also I wanted to just cover the usual talking point so if you
70:54 guys don't know what Squarespace is it's a fast easy affordable way to build your
70:57 own beautiful website they've got uh
71:01 only $8 a month and you get a free domain for your trouble if you sign up
71:05 for Squarespace for a year they've got responsive design so basically that
71:09 means your website scales to look great on any device and they've got integrated
71:13 Commerce now that was actually one of the previous things that they rolled out
71:16 that is pretty freaking cool so if you want to build a store on Squarespace
71:20 then you can rock on and do that so you can start a trial with no credit card
71:24 required and start building your website today and you get 10% off if you use
71:29 offer code Linus and you decide to go ahead and use that website for your
71:33 store or blog or restaurant
71:36 or someone I don't know maybe you want to make a website dedicated to pictures
71:40 of your junk wow I don't
71:44 um preferably not please don't but you
71:49 could yeah you could it's technically possible it's possible um some someone
71:54 in the twitch yeah quite literally uh someone in the twitch chat was like
71:58 please tell Squarespace to fix their documentation for developers it's really
72:02 bad I've looked at it what are you
72:05 talking about for one and for two I'm sure you can just contact them I've had
72:08 to contact them about stuff before they've responded very well and very quickly so if you're having a problem
72:12 with something which I'm not sure what you're doing because I've looked at
72:16 actually a fair amount of their documentation for developers it was all
72:20 fine from what I've seen maybe there's something that isn't I don't know but
72:23 just them and it should be fine so this is the best way I think YouTube could
72:27 have possibly done this they have implemented YouTube music key and this
72:33 is the first subscription based YouTube
72:37 service that we're seeing and I think they did it absolutely brilliantly so it
72:41 was posted by Raph banan on the Forum and the original article is from
72:45 official Android. blogspot.com and basically it's going
72:49 out of beta so it's not like it didn't exist already it's a monthly
72:52 subscription service for $9.99 a month
72:56 but it is $7.99 a month right now which
73:00 happens to be exactly the same price as a Google Play music subscription so if
73:05 you sign up now if you happen to be a Google Play music subscriber already yo
73:10 then you can just sign up for this you get a full Google play music account for
73:15 exactly the same price if you sign up during the promo and then you also get
73:19 ad free music background play on music
73:22 which is pretty nice if you like to listen to music on YouTube and offline
73:26 viewing of Music on YouTube it's invite
73:30 only right now and those who get an invite get to try it out free for 6
73:34 months if I can get this for $7.99 I'm
73:37 sold done because I and even if I can get it for $9.99 you know what I will
73:42 probably buy it that's actually pretty sick I really
73:45 like the background play thing yep background play and to be able to listen
73:49 to playlists on Monster cat for example and not have the ads interrupt your
73:53 groove that would be really nice I I think they knocked it out of the
73:57 freaking park with the way that they implemented this that's actually really cool music was the one to go after first
74:02 and the way that they did it enabling it to be the same price as a streaming
74:05 service that they already offer that's already great I love Google play music
74:09 especially the curated playlists it's awesome Google play music is more for me
74:13 than just I feel like I'm doing another sponsor integration but it really is
74:16 amazing I'm just a paying customer it's just nothing special but the the way
74:21 that they that they manage it it's more than just just not pirating music is it
74:25 the same sorry I might not have heard that part is it the same thing as if you
74:30 have the Google music that you have right now is it the same do you get this
74:33 yeah yeah okay so they're together oh wait no no no no no no this is this is
74:37 going to be a a more expensive subscription but would okay but it will
74:41 also that one include that oneic yes and then for a promotional
74:45 period of time you can get it at the same price okay so you should buy this
74:48 one yeah yeah um but like I mean it's more than just not pirating music and
74:53 and saving money versus going and buying albums it's it's for me it's all about
74:58 the curated playlists um where I can it'll be like hey it's Tuesday afternoon
75:02 do you want to listen to like you know pickme up music or do you want to listen
75:06 to like Mello music and the I'm feeling lucky radio is is awesome and does a
75:11 really really great job interesting uh Sharp's latest iGo
75:17 prototype sets the stage for 4K faets as
75:20 if it matters uh the oral say like sounds surprisingly excited for this
75:25 what's happening obscure mammal posted on the Forum the original article is
75:29 from techreport tocom and they have they
75:32 have made a prototype 2560 x600 4.1 in
75:37 panel oh jeez that is some incredible
75:41 pixel density so we're talking
75:44 736 pixels per inch that is massively
75:48 more than the Galaxy Notes 515 pixels
75:51 per inch the Google NEX 6 is 493 pixels
75:55 per inch and Apple's iPhone 6 Plus is 401 pixels per inch which quite frankly
76:00 is already enough I should point out
76:05 that the Droid Turbo has I really like the display but
76:12 the issue is that I don't know if it's related to the fact that it's AMOLED and
76:17 I'm really enjoying the Deep blacks or if it's related to that it's 2560 by
76:21 1440 yeah because on the G3 I didn't
76:25 feel like there was a benefit to the higher density display but the contrast
76:29 wasn't very good yeah it was icky and contrast is more important once you
76:34 reach a certain point than you know I was really surprised at um Marcus MKBHD
76:39 he did a a collaborative thing with the Verge like ultimate smartphone like
76:43 dream smartphone like well I would take this one and then I would change this
76:46 and I would squeeze this and I would do this and it would have a bigger battery and all that kind of stuff and I was
76:50 really surprised he picked the screen from the G3 for his dream smartphone
76:56 yeah he's wrong oh well that's one way
76:59 of putting it I would have said I would have said to each his own but just
77:05 no what so the latest iGo prototype will
77:08 have 11.5 micrometer pixels that will
77:12 likely be impossible to see with the naked eye um when okay when when was
77:16 that article done which one was that uh was that done before like Note 4 came
77:21 out and stuff no no it just went up two days
77:26 ago okay I don't get it um okay so one
77:30 one okay so so that's really cool that we won't be able to see the pixels but
77:34 one potential drawback is that higher
77:37 density displays typically require more power to achieve the same brightness
77:41 because as you pack in more Electronics do hickory in order to actually get
77:45 light through it to your eyes you have to have a brighter backlight now Apple
77:50 seemed to figure out how to address this on their 5K iMac um and that thing is so
77:56 bright and they've achieved the same brightness they say I don't have a last gen one but they've achieved what they
78:00 say is the same brightness as their last gen one which is ridiculous I have it on
78:03 like 10% at all times I don't understand
78:07 why it needs to go that bright but um
78:10 just in case you need like a random Spotlight yeah I mean honestly I guess
78:15 here all I have to say about this uh mass production will reportedly begin in
78:18 2016 so all I have to say about this is by 2016 battery
78:23 technology better have caught up in some meaningful way and I still don't care
78:28 because I would still rather have a 1080P or if you have to have a higher
78:32 spec to make your competitor look stupid a 1440p panel that gives me better
78:36 battery life um on my device right and
78:40 better performance in and better performance at Native resolution in
78:43 games and other applications like I don't want to necessarily have a 4K
78:48 display on something that gives me no benefit and tanks my battery life and
78:52 means I'm I'm going to have to run interpolated resolutions in order to get
78:56 decent performance in in in mobile games I don't play a ton of mobile games but
79:00 I'm it's more of a I'm speaking on behalf of what you guys should be thinking if you do play mobile games
79:05 yeah there you go ah rumors
79:12 r9390x Fiji XT this is posted by Paragon
79:16 X on the Forum and this thing looks
79:19 banana hammers May feature
79:23 4,096 stream processor so 64 compute and
79:26 256 texture units with a
79:30 4,096 bit memory
79:34 bus oh my God this is due to the fact that AMD is rumored to be using a
79:40 completely new technology for the memory
79:44 on this particular card the more traditional way is we've got the chips
79:48 laid out on the card and then we've got contact points on the bottom of the GPU
79:52 that lead out to them so that's why it was so costly to implement wider memory
79:57 buses that's why we saw memory buses continue to increase on graphics cards
80:00 until we reached 512 bit and everyone kind of went whoa hold on a second this
80:07 is really expensive now in terms of the area that we need for the package in
80:11 terms of the contact pins that we need to create on the bottom of the of the
80:15 chip itself and in terms of the PCB design we need to lay out all those
80:19 traces to all those memory chips this sucks so NVIDIA just bailed and they
80:24 stopped at 384-bit and amds actually I
80:27 don't think NVIDIA has ever done a 512 bit GPU was 480 512 bit that was the only
80:34 one I could think of cuz 480 was an interesting card let's
80:40 see 512 bit or was it no I don't think it
80:46 was 285 was the
80:49 285 okay anyway I if NVIDIA ever had when they bailed and they started doing
80:54 384-bit for their high-end cards and then now we even have a 256-bit GTX 980
80:59 which is passing for DDR3 okay so that was GTX 285 um so so
81:05 it got really expensive but in it's in a
81:08 similar so an analogous technology to what Samsung is now doing on their 850
81:13 Pro SSD where they're not using the latest super tiny manufacturing process
81:19 and instead of trying to go wider with the design of their chips actually
81:23 stacking them on each other so it looks like this technology is going to enable
81:28 AMD to deliver massive massive memory
81:31 bandwidth we're talking like a 1024-bit interface per chip um without hopefully
81:38 a huge significantly much bigger incremental cost um One Challenge is
81:45 that right now we're going to be limited to 4 gig configurations because uh this
81:50 is this is a highx technology K highx technology and it's only the first
81:55 generation but um yeah we could be
81:59 looking at bandwidth for the memory bandwidth for the graphics card in the
82:02 640 Gigabyte per second range that's
82:05 nuts that is redonkulous I I I very
82:09 reportedly am not a huge fan of just rumor mill
82:13 stuff you very specifically hope this one comes through that would be really
82:18 exciting to see this card I wouldn't be surprised I mean it's uh makes sense the
82:23 the problem that I have with rumors is
82:27 if you've been around for a long time it would be really easy to fabricate a lot
82:30 of them yeah that's true CU you could be like these things would make sense rumor
82:35 printed and a lot of the times I even wonder if people are just like yeah this
82:39 is probably what it's going to be and just rumor drop and then they're like oh
82:42 yeah look it was accurate because usually it's going to be accurate cuz
82:46 you can look at things like road maps like if you know SK hinx says okay we're
82:50 going to be sampling it here we're going to be going into mass production here
82:54 and then you look at fairly credible rumors like when the 390x is rumored to
82:58 launch and you go well gee why would they be Mass producing it if not for X
83:03 yeah you know a lot of the time you can kind of guess yeah speaking of exciting
83:07 memory technology uh this was also posted by big stuns on the form original
83:11 article is from tweak Town SanDisk
83:15 releases memory mounted ssds these fit
83:20 in DDR3 memory slots and they're ailable
83:23 in up to 400 gab capacities so either
83:27 200 or 400 GB oh crap I need to set this
83:31 reminder for myself for uh for later
83:34 otherwise I will not remember oh good I I already have a reminder for five
83:38 minutes before it happens hooray yay back to the dock um yeah so 2 400
83:43 Gigabyte capacities and basically you'll
83:46 just slot ssds into memory
83:49 slots what I mean this is not a consumer
83:53 oriented technology you're not going to be putting this on your z97 Deluxe or
83:58 whatever this is this is more for servers but what it does is it removes
84:02 complexity components and cabling from server designs if you had a server where
84:08 you didn't actually need a ton of memory but you did need a lot of storage but
84:13 you wanted to be compact this could make a ton of sense and you need like crazy
84:17 fast storage mhm yeah maybe not a lot CU
84:20 these are actually very high drives well hold on a second 400 GB per drive on
84:26 something like a 16 dim
84:29 motherboard cost yeah it's expensive I didn't say it
84:33 wasn't expensive and it's not even going to help that much in terms of space
84:37 really like it's yeah it's largely going to be for
84:42 Speed okay well it offers 880 megabytes per second of sequential read speed and
84:46 600 megabytes per second sequential rights but the big one here is actually
84:51 the warranty so it's support it's got a 5year warranty at 10 full disc RS per
84:57 day so the application for this looks like it's more like caching and less
85:02 like mass storage which makes a ton of sense so you could build extremely
85:06 compact racks that are just designed to cash data and they can actually do full
85:11 fleshes of the entire for so we're talking four terabytes per day per drive
85:17 in this cache server that has all these drives in it and is Lightning Fast Very
85:22 responsive and has extremely low complexity and very small size
85:25 incredible technology I mean I would have said and for a stor for because
85:30 databases will need a lot of RAM but servers that aren't going to need a ton
85:33 of RAM which there's definitely some of them if you want to cash some of your drives and you can fill those slots with
85:38 these that would be sick because again the reducing complexity thing not having
85:42 those extra cables and stuff that's super super nice and to be clear they're
85:45 nonvolatile storage so they're not like memory and that as soon as the system
85:49 power's off the data is gone so they're they're just ssds they just just go in a
85:52 dim slot that that's freaking cool I want to see one is there a picture in
85:55 here yeah I think so it's just my screen sharing is not working so I'll check it
85:59 out later a BMW is developing street lights that can also charge your
86:03 electric car now the whole idea of
86:07 having roadside stations or parking stalls with electric Chargers in them
86:11 was kind of like yeah okay I guess we
86:14 slow this idea wow this is gamechanging
86:18 because the okay the idea is not to that
86:21 you would have to replace all the street lamps in your entire city the idea is
86:25 that you would be able to retrofit your existing Street lamps with chargers and
86:30 be able to monetize it brilliant What
86:33 city doesn't sign up for that they get to go Greener they get to have an
86:37 additional new Revenue stream in the longer term they can monetize things and
86:42 and I mean you'll see this I think we're going to see this in obviously more
86:45 densely populated urban areas first but all of a sudden the whole parking thing
86:50 maybe you can have like like you know a bundle thing where you buy your parking
86:54 for that spot and that also includes zapping your car for the time that
86:58 you're there and ends up making a ton of sense for electric electric vehicle
87:02 owners I think it's awesome yeah that's actually really cool um I don't think
87:05 Tesla has commented on it yet at least not at the time that we were working on
87:09 the dock but I would imagine Tesla and
87:12 musk would be very supportive of a technology like this down yeah anything
87:16 that expands the the infrastructure for electric vehicles is going to make a big
87:20 difference to people who are considering buying one the only thing I can imagine
87:25 musk being against is if he looks into
87:28 it and realizes that it's like I'm
87:31 completely hypothetical right so realizes isn't a fact I'm just saying
87:37 like if this happened uh realizes that it's crap like if he comes up with
87:41 something we didn't think of it's bad because of this reason or he tries it
87:45 and it's bad because he observed this thing or whatever that's the only real
87:50 reason why I could see him being against it cuz he a definite advocate for trying
87:53 to get more of that kind of stuff out there and if he can suddenly utilize all
87:58 of these things in that ever growing map that he's trying to do yeah which is you
88:01 can travel here to here to here to here if he can suddenly just go there's all
88:05 these spots now filled up of course we're going to keep putting superchargers y because those are going
88:10 to be the super fast ones but this will massively expand your network I'm sure
88:14 he'd be down for that yeah I I'm I'm I'm
88:17 super excited for for the whole for the future of that I think this makes a
88:20 whole lot more sense than uh than solar powered roadways in terms of how much
88:25 thought appears to have been put into it you know so any I don't think I don't
88:29 think musk doesn't seem like the kind of guy who gets all butt hurt because you
88:33 know someone else came up with a good idea I think if it's a good idea he has
88:37 no problem going Head to Head Tesla's EVS versus BMW's EVS he'll just try to
88:43 do a better thing I I I think that's uh
88:46 I think this I think this will happen this is the most sensible idea I've
88:49 heard yet for how this could be implemented and I'm really excited for
88:52 it yeah all right speaking of of bad
88:56 ideas Google did a fishing survey not this kind of fishing P pH fishing which
89:02 is a method of attack that actually gets you to give up your
89:06 information voluntarily Yeah Yeah by by
89:09 tricking the user similar to social engineering and you know how you know
89:14 you and I have conversations where we we'll get a particularly stupid spam
89:18 email or fishing email and we'll laugh it to each other trying to go really
89:22 could anyone fall for this yes I used to work in tech support places they do
89:27 Google's fishing survey revealed that 14% of people submit information to
89:33 hackers wow Google and UCSD looked at
89:37 100 fishing emails picked out of a random sample self-reported by Gmail
89:41 users the researchers also reviewed a random sample of 100 fishing websites
89:46 caught by Google's safe browsing system to further understand how the scams work
89:50 these websites were all created through Google forms which is how researchers
89:54 were even able to access the data and even the worst performing fishing
89:58 websites like think about some of the ones you've seen where it's just like
90:02 obviously not a real website full of typos like you click on any navigation
90:08 on the site and it doesn't go anywhere it just leads to a broken page like
90:11 we've all seen them even on the worst performing 3% of users still submitted
90:17 their data on the most effective sites
90:20 as many as40 5% submitted their dat I wonder if this
90:26 data took account for faked stuff
90:30 probably not
90:33 but I would speculate that most people
90:37 aren't going to go to the trouble of even because okay the techsavvy
90:42 user unless they're one of those super
90:46 techsavvy users who runs you know a virtual machine on their computer solely
90:50 for the purpose of opening up you know potentially malicious stuff you know
90:54 unless you're one of those I would I would venture that most moderately power
90:59 users are just not going to click it yeah yeah because you don't even want to
91:02 go to that site that's bad you just don't even want to go there I used to
91:07 okay when I used to work at certain shops uh depending on where it was
91:10 situated so like depending on the demographics of the area around me um I
91:15 could get from like one a week to maybe
91:18 two a month um so like 0. five a week
91:21 people coming in like oh I had this is
91:25 even worse this is just phone calls someone called me from Microsoft and
91:29 said that my computer was sending them messages saying that it was having
91:33 problems and they need me to go on my computer and type all this stuff and
91:36 then I'm like oh yeah you screwed up
91:41 it's such an awkward situation like how do I get my money back I'm like you
91:45 don't you don't like it's gone so according to
91:51 Google's resear search here um hackers spend an average of 3 minutes figuring
91:55 out how much an account is worth once they have access and will apparently
91:59 move on if the account doesn't seem valuable enough so there you go the
92:03 solution is to either avoid fishing websites entirely not give them your
92:07 data or not have any money yeah yeah oh
92:11 but then you okay you still need to not be a doofus because the hacker then
92:15 tries to get money from your account's contact list so you can be compromising
92:20 your friends and family members right yeah being dumb speaking of being dumb
92:24 gizmodo.com article about this website I
92:28 can't remember what it's called right now but this is just terrible so creepy
92:33 website um insam claims to feature feeds from IP
92:38 cameras all over the world including 11,000 in the us alone and uh Gizmodo
92:44 browsed some of the feeds finding people's living rooms um parking lots
92:49 porches and even bedrooms in these feeds and the site says that the way that they
92:54 did this was by exploiting people who haven't changed the default username and
92:59 password on their IP
93:03 camera um that's creepy I don't even
93:07 know if I should be saying this on stream but it's fairly widely known and
93:12 spreading the knowledge that exists might help get it fixed um there's
93:16 certain Google Search terms you can use to find uh open IP cameras
93:22 and you can get straight up into their control panels to the point where you can move them around like it's crazy I
93:28 was doing like a presentation in high school talking about like internet
93:33 security stuff this was a long time ago and I did a live demonstration from the
93:37 class and like moved the camera around and everything and it's like yep it's
93:41 really bad I mean it baffles me that more things don't require you to change
93:46 the password the first time that you log into them because anyone can be lazy
93:51 even someone who knows better can be lazy but maybe you're just spamming next
93:55 and you don't notice that one of them was whatever really important yeah H
94:01 anyway Assassin's Creed Creator launches new studio the original article is from
94:05 gamespot.com so following his reported firing from Ubisoft last year the
94:09 Assassin's Creed Creator uh has opened a new studio in Montreal called panach
94:14 digital games Pan's other co-founder another former Ubisoft veteran who was
94:19 fired in 2013 uh or yeah sorry pacha's other
94:23 co-founder um was another Ubisoft veteran so in June 2013 he sued Ubisoft
94:28 for 400,000 and the rights to purchase 1666 which he was working on at THQ
94:33 Montreal before its collapse cool interesting hopefully he
94:37 does good things yeah well based on how good Assassin's Creed is with his
94:41 involvement and how rubbish it apparently is without his involvement oh
94:45 I guess we need to uh okay so just just
94:48 just a I'm I I have to I have to kind of pitch this to you guys again because
94:53 Nick will give me a hard time if I don't uh but the keep on digging shirt
94:56 apparently has already sold like 40 shirts oh that's awesome because you
95:00 guys are pretty into repping the keep on the keep on digging so we have yet
95:05 another Ubisoft topic it's just a short one uh cuz they just can't stop can they
95:11 so check it out it's over on oh no this one oh yeah I
95:18 know okay brain's going to bleed before we're
95:23 done this uh hold on I'm just trying to I'm
95:27 just trying to post our uh our link here I don't know if that link is going to
95:31 work hey look at that it works so if you guys want one of these shirts check it
95:35 out I'mma spam my chat
95:39 boom Nick's like here's one link I will
95:43 do things the way that isn't obnoxious good job Nick and like says
95:48 what it's for and stuff you're just like B
95:51 no dog and it's funny because of the stream delay right yeah so just out of
95:55 nowhere just huge amounts of nothing all right so Ubisoft patches
96:00 microtransactions before frame rate issues so this is this is a post that
96:06 has actually been pulled down already let's just go ahead and uh and pull this
96:10 up here so this is on imer um there we
96:14 go a patch has been deployed and the issues with purchasing and receiving
96:18 Helix credits is now fixed on PS4 We are
96:22 continuing to work to solve the issue on PC and Xbox One 214 thumbs up from the
96:28 24 members of the Assassin's Creed team that were told to thumbs up that post
96:34 pretty much yeah
96:37 unbelievable I just want to make sure it's pulled down when was this supposed
96:40 to oh it just says 14 minutes that's not
96:45 helpful yeah W the rest of their Facebook is just we are aware of the
96:49 issues we are working on it yeah that's already November 11th so I
96:54 think we're we're done yeah wow yep it's
96:58 gone that post is gone they don't want us to they don't want us to talk about
97:02 that nope all right recked I think we
97:06 got not much El not much else Apple's chip suppliers are apparently gearing
97:11 Up Get It gearing up that's a different
97:15 company for mass production of the Apple watch I know it's a it's a competing
97:19 product that's true that works I think it's funny
97:23 I think it would have better or is my humor wearing on you oh there we go
97:27 except that's still a different company I know you got to like it's got to be
97:31 within the Apple ecosystem no it doesn't it does uh chip orders are estimated to
97:37 be around 30 to 40 million units for a debut in early 2015 stainless steel and
97:42 gold editions will reportedly retail for prices starting at
97:46 $54,000 respectively uh the the Lenovo S90 is
97:52 the most ridiculous phone I think I've ever seen speaking of patent trolling um
97:58 oh no if anyone was going to if Apple was going to go after anyone about
98:03 anything this oh right my screen sharing
98:06 isn't working right bloody balls right
98:09 uh this should have been this should have been it because this is absolutely
98:16 brutal here we go on the left the iPhone 6 on the right
98:23 the Lenovo S90 wow on the bottom the iPhone 6 no way on
98:30 the top the Lenovo S90 they even copied the promotional
98:35 images I mean the antenna band is the
98:39 same wow wait are those different those are
98:45 different oh
98:49 no that's it's not good isn't that horrible apparently this
98:54 phone is not going to be available in all regions and I'm guessing this has to
98:59 do with that Lenovo knows they have no
99:03 ground to stand on if they brought this thing to the US there would be a sales
99:06 embargo like that that's uh it looks
99:10 like it's a China only China only design
99:13 not surprising this posted by Shadow captain on the Forum though I tweeted
99:16 this out earlier this week rather I posted it on Facebook cuz I thought that
99:20 was hilarious like just embarrassingly
99:25 blatant copy that's funny all right so I
99:29 think that's pretty much it there's only one other thing that I wanted to call out um we did a couple live streams if
99:34 you guys are interested in programming so becoming a coder we actually did a
99:38 number of live streams they were sponsored by modus the same guys that we
99:41 partnered with for Geek Stakes uh earlier this year where they gave away a
99:45 bunch of really cool stuff they're a they're a Placement Firm for coders so
99:49 basically they work with companies that need coders and coders who need
99:52 placements andies connect them wow um not as
99:59 aggressively as that they're like pretty nice about it they're a little bit more
100:02 considerate of each other's needs yeah so anyway they sponsored a series of
100:06 interviews where we took some folks from code school which is um a video a video
100:10 tutorial online uh online site where you can
100:15 learn coding in a fun and engaging way and they had a few of those folks come
100:18 and interview with us about sort of how to how to become a coder and of
100:22 particular interest is number two um
100:26 that one was really excellent especially if you know any females who are thinking
100:29 about programming because she talked a little bit about what it's like as a
100:32 female learning to program and being involved in the developer Community I
100:35 thought that was really uh I thought that was really really cool and actually our third our third interviewee was um
100:41 was really cool as well because a lot of what we talked to him about was not
100:45 sitting in front of your computer you know Finding inspiration for your
100:49 programming projects in the real world by being a real person and doing real
100:54 things especially stuff um like apps or if you want to build a if you want to
100:58 build a program which is going to solve someone's real world problem you
101:03 probably need to get off your butt and go figure out what that problem is cuz
101:07 we see a lot of uh we see a lot of a lot
101:10 of solutions that are to problems nobody
101:14 has yeah yeah yeah which is great if you
101:17 like have a different job and you're just soling your own
101:21 solutions that other people might not have that's awesome that's a really good
101:25 way to program and actually most programmers that I know just do that
101:28 because they'll have other jobs and they'll program their own solutions to stuff um but if you want to like make
101:34 your job doing stuff like apps for phones you probably need to figure out
101:38 stuff to go do huh look at this okay well we've got
101:42 one more we've got one more news item hi lonus I'm sure you saw some news
101:46 floating around today about statements made by Richard huie in regards to
101:50 directx12 12 I wanted to provide comment from AMD to give some context around
101:54 what has been said thus far there have been reports based on a video of Richard
101:57 h of AMD making speculative comments about directx12 support on versions of
102:01 Windows Richard Hy does not speak for Microsoft he was unfortunately spec
102:05 speculating for Microsoft publication of key dates and milestones for Windows 7
102:08 life cycle and blah blah blah okay that's not very interesting never mind
102:12 boring email okay well I think that's pretty much it no longer interesting
102:19 goodbye all right all right so yeah I think that's pretty much it thank you
102:23 guys for tuning in to the WAN Show
102:27 um we'll see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel and thank you
102:30 also to so many of you for tuning in we had almost 6,000 viewers we had over
102:34 6,000 viewers at one point not for a huge amount of time but we did well you
102:39 guys are awesome and we will see you