The WAN Show - More "Hot Water" for the Galaxy Note 7 - September 30th 2016
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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okay I believe we're live welcome to the W show you got am I streaming on the
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right one yes I hope so so I know I know
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we are about as late as we've ever been and I did promise that the new streaming
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equipment video capture equipment would
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help significantly with that but there is also a reason why we haven't done our
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official like the W show set was updated
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video yet and that is because we haven't really done anything about our audio
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situation yet we definitely need some
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kind of piece of dedicated mixer
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Hardware that will definitely happen at some point but basically in a nutshell I
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was super loud Luke was super quiet he's
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uh Skyping in from twitchcon right now the little like volume thing in the
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corner you know the bling bling thing was crazy quiet the uh playing back
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videos that we recorded from last week were crazy loud and then playing back
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videos we were test recording just now was like normal and then apparently it's
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all normal and we spend a bunch of time diagnosing something that wasn't a
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problem other than that our system audio is infected by Gremlins on the streaming
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computer which shouldn't surprise anybody are you surprised
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Luke I'm not very surprised this so funny I look towards my webcam and your
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picture but actually I should be looking over here hi Luke hello how's it going
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you have a very nice hat you want to explain your hat oh um oh yes I was
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working on my PlayStation 4 um my like my PlayStation 4 water
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cooled project that is hardly my project at this point because Jake did most of
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the work but um basically my intro
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involves a rant about the PlayStation 4
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Pro and how like if I had to upgrade my
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PlayStation 4 and spend $400 every 3 years to get
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better graphics well that's starting to sound an awful lot like being a PC Gamer isn't
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it anyway the rant involves Doritos and Mountain Dew and this hat and anger so
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it B it should be pretty good should be pretty good also I saw someone in the
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twitch chat saying vinus you should be spending time with your baby instead of
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being on a land show and I would love to
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except that my baby is still safely
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tucked away in Mama's uterus so um there will be no
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spending time with that particular baby other than like kind of kind of poking
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it through her stomach which doesn't really doesn't really appeal to her nor
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does it really appeal to me I I got to confess I am not that into the whole
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unborn babies thing like you know not
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into the whole unborn or born babies thing yeah one step further I mean the
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thing though is like people are like oh it's magic it's it's it's it's just as
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magical as an iPhone and I'm just kind of like you know what it I cannot get
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the scene from Alien out of my head can you can you tweet on a baby belly I
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don't think so tweet on a baby belly
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yeah okay oh sorry we're back to the iPhone comparison sure but like some
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people get all like oh it's the magic of like they want to put their hands on and
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like oh the baby's kicking and uh uh the other night I was like mostly asleep and
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I had my ARM over my wife because we're adults and we're allowed to do that um
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and the baby kicked so hard through her
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stomach that I jolted awake flipped out
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I'm like and I woke her up I am not a
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fan not a fan of baby in the tunnel so smooth yeah so smooth so when um when
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the baby's out will talk and the baby will not respond because they don't
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speak English yet when they are born and are therefore not a lot of fun um
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not that I'm saying people you have to speak English to be fun I'm just saying
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being able to communicate at all is super helpful it's like you could just
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say I'm hungry instead
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of oh my God I got so limited sleep last
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night um that because of one of those
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situations I'm not going to add way too many details but for way too much time
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because exactly what happened yeah just
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reinforcing why I don't want one fair
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enough man all right we should roll the intro speaking of uh things that I do
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want an intro though yeah I do want an intro let's do
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that
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all right ladies and gentlemen so why
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don't we get things started with our first big topic of the day the Galaxy
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Note 7 this was originally posted by daring on the Forum the original article
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here is from Tech time Tech time Tech times the tech times all right L is the
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screen share oh look at that he's still
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there that's right that's what I spent 45 minutes setting up
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today at least that's my that's my story and I'm sticking to it so Galaxy Note 7
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Replacements they might not explode but
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they might overheat and drain the battery while charging Samsung just
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cannot catch a break here can they I I
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would assume because the uh losing charge while it's charging thing that it
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was losing 1% of power every second first of all that seems a little insane
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second of all he's probably not using a first-party charger not that that even
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like matters that it should matter but he could be using like a05 amp charger
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right something that's not made for charging notes still losing 1% of power
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every second while charging that's still
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like something's wrong although this was one user who was reporting this that's
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that's I think he might be exaggerating a little bit because that's 100% to dead
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in under two minutes so Samsung said this problem is completely unrelated to
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batteries uh they haven't stated if the problem is present in units replaced in
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other countries aside from South Korea so so far everyone who's encountered the
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issue has been in South Korea and the good news is there are no reports of
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devices Catching Fire at least yes so
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that is a small victory a very small in
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consequential
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Victory um on in other news it really
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doesn't get much better for Samsung here are you posting uh links in the chat by
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the way or am I doing that okay so the next one here is from
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hardware. do.org or money.cnn I'll I'll
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go with Slash doot wow SL doot that's like a blast from the past right I
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remember slash Dot from like 10 years ago apparently it still exists so
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there's that ah Samsung may have a new problem on
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their hands after the US warns Samsung
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washing machine owners after explosion
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reports there's a picture that goes along with it if you want to show that
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uh oh yeah where is that post that picture in the
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chat all right let me see if I can figure out that picture in the meantime
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here H yes there we go so the the
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scariest part of this one is this could affect units all the way from
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2011 to 2016 so here's a picture of
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uh you know what appears to be a bowed
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out washing machine um it's unclear
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right now I mean this is not the world's most gorgeous wall in the first place
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but it's it's unclear to me if this hole in it is a result of the washing machine
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explosion um picture was documented by a Texas woman who claims it exploded
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during use she's part of a class action lawsuit against the company
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currently wow Samsung currently has
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declined to comment on the litigation at all um which is not super surprising to
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be completely honest with this type of a claim they would want to do
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investigations before trying to claim anything so I'm not too surprised if
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they haven't said anything yet uh but they have issued a statement that said
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they're talking to us authorities about how to address safety problems um said
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in the statement that in rare cases affected units may experience abnormal
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vibrations that could pose a risk of personal injury or property damage when
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washing bedding bulky or water resistant
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items you know the like Fight Club thing
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the like the like Fight Club thing I I I have no idea what you're talking about
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but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to be talking about it investigating car accidents and
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seeing if there's been enough of a certain type per car for it to be worth
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doing like a recall or whatever yeah I wonder if like there's GNA be like Fight
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Club 2 and like pretty early on in the intro it shows him and he's like I
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investigate phone explosions and washing machine explosions to see if it's worth
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doing a
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recall oh someone's got a someone's got a parody it at least at some point so
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awesome at some point it's bound to happen I mean all Samsung needs is one
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more to reach that magic three number because one's a fluke two is sketchy and
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three is a trend so I mean the problem
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is that Samsung makes pretty much everything so all we need is for like a
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a printer to explode although they or if you're from
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Korea like anything oh that's right yeah
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they make like everything there if I remember correctly there's like Samsung
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toilets and like Samsung whatever the heck you want we almost put a Samsung
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air conditioner on the roof of the building actually oh our air
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conditioning for the server room just went in oh cool so there you go so
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that's a thing is that loud now uh well
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it'll be just as loud until such time as I do something about the uh the air
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vents that in are in the door for the old ambient air cooling system okay but
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uh at that at that time yes it could potentially be less
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loud um sketchy there's a UK advertising
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agency named Assa wow um that is
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investigating hello games which is the no man Sky guys over false uh
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advertising mainly things like having uh
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screenshots and I believe videos yeah screenshots and videos that depict large
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scale combat and ship flying behaviors that didn't actually make it into the
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game and I think they could go a little bit farther than that those are probably
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just their like cemented this is very easy to Target kind of stuff because
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there was also a large amount of other claims that didn't end up being true at
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all um so yeah I kind of have a feeling
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that Halo games is going to lose this and I also have a feeling that the
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entire internet will be okay with that this could have a huge impact on the way
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that games marketing is done in the future I mean it is not unusual watch
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dos uh it is not unusual to end up with
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a situation where a game developer shows
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off a trailer um or you know some kind
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of a of a of a concept um and the finished game though
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I can't really judge Star Citizen as they haven't finished the game yet um
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and and the Finish game ends up not having those features or those uh or
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those levels or or whatever the case may be and seeing in World of
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Warcraft right um and while this one you
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know looks pretty open and shut because it's fairly egregious that this you know
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large scale combat that the screenshots and videos on the page depict is not in
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the game
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um I think it would be harder to go after a situation like Watch Dogs where
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it is a graphical difference um because
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while you and I and probably everyone in the audience can very easily see the
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difference between the E3 demonstrations and we actually were delivered in the
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end I think it's going to be harder to argue in court because I would assume
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that the judge and jury wouldn't fully understand what's actually going on
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whereas if you go look there were big ships and they would go pew pew and now
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there isn't big ships that go pew pew I think that's a more straightforward case
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I mean some of the some of the complaints about no man's sky are also
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regarding misrepresentation of the graphical quality in the game right
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which which is great but I think the main ones are the functionality things
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and hopefully they'll also hit them with other things as
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well so the complaints Target steam but
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the ASA said that the ruling would apply to any other advertising for the game so
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that could be uh YouTube videos and or the games listing on the PlayStation
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Store this this could be very interesting I mean as it is game
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developers keep things pretty Under Wraps while a title's in development but
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this could drive them to be even more I mean could this potentially apply to
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something like uh a demo shown at PS like if IID Play If I played um Wolf
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Among Us okay is a game that it's one of the few games that I've ever demoed at
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packs just because usually the lineup at
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places like packs is such that I'm just kind of like you know what I can either
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wait six months for the game to come out or I can wait six months in this
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lineup and at the end of one of those six-month periods I will get a demo and
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at the end of the one I will get the entire game so I think I think they'll
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have a better time getting away with that because that could be I think you
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could pretty easily put a sign somewhere on your
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booth and say like game is subject to change or some crap like that but when
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it's on your store Page yeah okay
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wrecked for well that I oh go ahead is that the the screenshots and the videos
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of the stuff that they are trying trying to
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directly sell right then o how does that
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apply to like Early Access stuff I don't know and and another complicated thing
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here too is like so go going back to the to the PS game demos let's say for
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example that the difference okay because we've seen this before in movies right
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where the trailer will actually contain a scene that ended up getting cut right
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yeah that's a thing but there's a difference between
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a a cutscene oh no there's a difference
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between a cut scene and completely
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pulling uh core functionality out of the game so if you're going to go okay yeah
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our game is gratuitous Space Battles and your trailer has the like a cut scene
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and then it has like a h two like Legions of ships blasting each other and
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you know some some cinematic is gone from the completed game versus like you
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can only fly two on two uh
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that those are very different things so in something like a px demo if they were
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to say okay yeah our game is like a top down you know uh platformer and then
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someone sees that that is marketing so if someone sees that tries that game and
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it turns out to be a racing like a mobile racing game or something like
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that then it I guess it it becomes a gray area and a question of just how
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misleading it was what happens too if that
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communication comes through game
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journalists like say say someone goes to
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a show and it's not an interview and
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they play the game and they describe their experience that everything that
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they described in their experience that could be seen as a form
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of marketing and then if that's not actually how it ends up
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going hard to say because unless they pay the games journalists and the games
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journalists opinions are their own then that's not officially right okay yeah
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but what if it's still kind of an interesting
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area because if you're going like this
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game has battles in it that have 400 ships versus 400 ships yep that's stated
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as a fact yep that's not like this game
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has battles with a lot of ships and then the game journalist version of a lot is
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four I don't know that's true I mean
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this manifests I really want to see how this plays out another thing I want to see how it plays out is Twitch news
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twitch announces twitch Prime I think
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we've already seen how this played out actually there is an insane amount of
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Subs randomly on the lonus tech channel
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oh and like this whole stream I've been watching twitch chat and every once in a
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while you'll see like has just subscribed with twitch Prime uh so what
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twitch Prime is to kind of help people out a little bit is Amazon Prime now has
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a component under it called twitch Prime that doesn't cost any amount more money
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you get it when you have Amazon Prime it gives you one subscribe per month to a
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channel I believe you can like move it around but you only have one so you'd be
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able to switch it once a month I believe you get some extra prizes I think there
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they said uh swag in Hearthstone and smite although I'm not sure what that
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swag exactly is um I think they were talking about getting certain games on
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launch and then discounts on physical copies of games from Amazon now I
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checked that out and literally every single game that I was able to find that
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was discounted because of being a Prime member was discounted by three to 10
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cents wow all right rock on hopefully
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that I love it but I could no no no no no luk I
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could get it shipped for free
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yeah there you go you also get a badge which is like a little blue crown you
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can see a bunch of people in the chat right now have little blue crowns I
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guess the YouTube VOD won't be able to see that but I just described it so oh
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well hold on hold on I got this i got this i got this i got this line is the screen there blue crowns blue crowns
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okay there gigantic blue crowns enjoy so
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let me give me one second oh come on now
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do the thing oh I'm trying to pick up like the
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official list of um perks just to make
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sure I didn't miss anything
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but I think that's basically it it's it's going to be interesting
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because this is part of the Amazon takeover right yeah so they're giving
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everyone that already had a Prime account a free subscribe which is giving
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Partners more money we've already seen with this channel like last week there
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was almost no subscribers this week there is a large number of subscribers I
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just there's literally two people just did it in chat right now I don't know a
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check um sorry it's in your like partner
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panel and stuff so if you go to your um
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I think it's your dashboard and then you go to partnership I'm the world's worst
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twitch streamer I legitimately have no idea how the site
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Works let's see if I can figure it out for you it's like okay no no go ahead go
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ahead keep explaining how we have more twitch subscribers and how that's good or something anyways it's it's exploded
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for us and I'm sure while the change in growth might
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not be as big for other people because our we might have more people watching
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here that don't normally watch Twitch
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because we're not average content that is on Twitch and this is like we're way
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above average and um we basically just got
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subscriptions as well so people didn't necessarily know that you could even subscribe to us so we're in like kind of
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a special spot but everyone's going to see growth and a lot of the growth could
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even be like some dude's girlfriend has an Amazon
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Prime account and he's like hey mind if I link my twitch so I can get a free sub
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or dude's mom or girls mom links her
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Amazon account to the kids twitch so they can get a free sub I'm still
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confused as to how the whole Amazon Prime thing is not just an enormous cash
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sync as far as I can tell it is um like
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I I okay okay so let's let's let's like break it down right from you know top to
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bottom Amazon will pay me to tell you
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about prime if you sign up yeah then
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they will give you free shipping on everything which as far as I can tell if
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you buy like because okay because the benefit of prime initially was supposed
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to be that it encouraged repeat shopping right because you wouldn't have to think
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about shipping costs when you were shopping on Amazon okay so if you buy
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like one thing a month there goes the
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entire Prime membership for the month probably unless it's something very
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small okay so there's that plus there's video streaming so Amazon Prime costs
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more than a Netflix account unless your Netflix is uh 4K I think then I think
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they're pretty similar I can't remember how much prime costs to be perfectly honest with you but anyway so they they
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have Amazon Prime video so there's all
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the licensing costs associated with something like a Netflix service maybe
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not all of them actually had don't I have two prime accounts I have one
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Canada and one us I have never looked at Amazon Prime video maybe I should do
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that um anyway so there's a licensing cost associated with that there's the
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cloud storage they give you you can store an unlimited number of photos
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using prime so so so far what what is what is Prime cost again $79.99 for the
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year Canadian it's $79 flat sorry and
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that's a 13mon membership okay so it's
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probably about 59 bucks American okay so it's 11 bucks a month apparently
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on amazon.com okay okay 11 bucks a month so
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out of $11 a month so far we have spent
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all of it times lots and then at the end
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of all that they're going okay you can subscribe to a twitch Channel for free
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which is five bucks and we will give some of that money to the twitch Channel
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sorry so once again oh oh oh Luke had a
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bad burrito bad burrito he's running to the bathroom folks oh that's the uh
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someone's already in there oh no he there's been a negotiation there's been
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a negotiation he has been negotiated back back to his chair um he's do you
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need ice someone need ice um he's gonna
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go to the bathroom on his chair no no I'm good I'm good could you hear me the
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whole time yeah oh okay she could too oh
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okay well that's awkward he's taking a drink people that don't know I am at
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twitchcon um um what I was doing here has changed a fair amount but so I'm
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streaming from a hotel room and that was
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someone else's room service who ended up at my room somehow yeah so the plan
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actually this is great because it TI brings us right into our sponsor spots
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for the day the plan was for Luke to be streaming from the Razer Booth yeah
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check out the Razer broadcasting Suite below and the talking points for Razer
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there's actually a bunch of stuff that they're showing off that's well that
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they were going to be showing off in their booth at twitchcon when they
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arranged to sponsor us to be down there covering twitchcon and streaming from
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their Booth uh so the Stargazer the tiny webcam that Clips onto your laptop or
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Monitor and does everything a green screen setup does for background removal
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and more so it actually features inels real Sense Technology so that's the uh
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the depth sensing whole camera thing so it can cut out things that are far away
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as opposed to things that are a different color which is pretty darn
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cool as well as the siren Pro the mic that any streamer should look at first
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XLR input helps aspiring streamers take their audio to a professional level
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you're using that right I am actually using the siren Pro right now the thing that I like about the siren Pro actually
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is not necessarily that see I'm not using the XLR though I probably will at
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some point probably should at some point
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the thing I like about it is it's one of the few mics I found that just kind of
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works out of the box like you just set the thing and then it doesn't peek which
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is nice that's really all I ask for that's all I'm asking for it doesn't
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seem that complicated but we've tried like six different mics on the L
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show um yeah and then they're also featuring
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The ripsaw the world's first usb3 capture card I actually don't know that
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it is the world's first usb3 capture card know why you said that I said the
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exact same thing because of the thing that I'm using right now um and it's
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we're wrong oh are we the Ripa came out first by like a few months oh it was
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close how about that then yeah okay no
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delay when recording and it comes out with just about every cable you need for
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PC and console streaming out of the box so shows you what I know and you can
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check these products out at the link in the video description which will be
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there when you are watching this on YouTube or another possibility and I'm
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going to go ahead and paste all these links into twitch chat for you guys or
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another possibility for those links would be to see them on the twitch VOD
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and twitch now has the capability this is the last part sort of big part of the
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uh the whole upgrade announcement thing that they've been doing twitch now has the capability for
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you to just upload vods straight up so
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you don't actually have to stream to Twitch in order to have your video
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appear on Twitch and this is a weird reversal for
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them isn't it first they don't want you to leave your Twitch vods on Twitch now
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they want you to just upload videos to Twitch yeah they've totally change
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although that probably came with like Amazon just being like
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servers because yes that's what Amazon that's what Jeff bezo sounds like we're
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gonna have him on the show he's gonna sound just like that we're g be like hi
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Jeff welcome to the show he's gonna be like Amazon we have servers and we're gonna
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be like wow that's great Jeff thanks for uh thanks for
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coming two things that the fire phone wasn't very good but it wasn't my
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fault two things that's interesting about this to me is one I think the
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amount of people spamming pre-recorded
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question mark is going to be way too insane on our stream I know and two my
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like main problem with my stream is just ban the word my consistency because I go
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on like work trips and stuff yeah so I could legitimately pre-record them and
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then just have them play
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what one interesting thing is if they're
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just going to show up in your past broadcasts when you upad a VOD or if it
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will like if you could like schedule one to play on your
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channel through twitch I don't know how any of this works yet because just shows
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up in your past broadcast I don't think
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it's going to be super successful because that's unless they
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change like how people look at things on
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Twitch because right now going to someone's past broadcast is very manual
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yeah and it's tedious and they're usually not titled correctly because
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twitch streamers are irresponsible and yeah it's just
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horrible so if if they could have it so that like you upload it it goes into
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your past uh past broadcast and then there's like a settings thing somewhere
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you can be like play this file at this
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time and that could be kind of interesting for people that legitimately
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just replay stuff like there's certain gaming tournament channels that will
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replay their tournaments while various tournaments aren't live so
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you can go watch them at different time frames and yes it is pre-recorded but
29:04
it's kind of like going and watching TV yeah it's kind of like watching like a
29:08
match replay like you would on sorry TV
29:11
yes Co and would make it so that those
29:14
guys don't have to have computers that are just set up constantly just playing
29:18
like video files and streaming video files all day so that could be kind of
29:24
cool but I have no idea if it's going to work that way I'm sorry oh go ahead I
29:30
said I have no idea if it's going to work that way I just hope it does I'm
29:33
sorry for contributing nothing to that last exchange and just repeating what
29:36
you
29:39
said I felt bad no worries I've got some serious
29:43
conspiracy theory nonsense going on here we've got people saying that you are
29:48
pre-recorded and that I am not and that I am actually live and that we are just
29:52
be extremely impressive on yeah that
29:55
would be amazing if that's even true like I would just
30:01
give it to you at that point yeah right
30:05
oh uh knock to a 21 is saying we should ask nerd Fusion about playlists I
30:09
actually I I should probably talk to uh to seus over there and see what he
30:13
thinks um hanging out with him probably
30:17
tomorrow and Sunday so I'll I'll I'm sure we'll talk about that cool tell him
30:21
I think he's nice sure we'll do or that
30:25
I'd hate him it doesn't really matter gave to myself sorry an what an gave me
30:31
maker Fair tickets wow my like plan to hang out at
30:36
twitchcon is maybe changing a little
30:42
bit all right this was originally posted on the Forum by Master disaster and I
30:47
think that pretty much says it right there the BBC reports I got this post in
30:52
the in the chat here the BBC reports that
30:56
Blackberry will stop designing its own
31:01
phones how long ago did we say they should do
31:04
this uh how long ago did everyone say
31:08
they should do this I mean we weren't the only ones for the last few years
31:12
saying that's fair why don't you just be a software company why don't you just do
31:17
an Android Branch or something and
31:21
become a a a security software specialist so it looks like they are
31:26
finally going that route I have
31:30
apparently lost the tab um but in a
31:33
nutshell U so John Chen their CEO said
31:37
that he would know by September whether the hardware business would become
31:40
profitable for Blackberry um it is now September and
31:44
apparently it did not so they are Outsourcing Hardware development to
31:48
Partners uh Chen has stated that further devices even ones with the iconic
31:53
physical keyboard would go on sale um I
31:58
always wanted to make sure that we keep having iconic devices he said we just
32:02
need to find a way to be more efficient and be able to make money I think we
32:05
found the model so the company sold 400,000 smartphones in its second
32:10
quarter Which is less than the previous 3 months
32:15
um yeah there dumb you didn't find the
32:19
model stop selling
32:25
phones I mean like it's a step in the Direction but they need to just get off
32:30
the platform and just start making only software oh man I
32:36
don't understand how they keep doing this I was looking uh I was actually
32:41
reading a couple other articles about this that aren't the linked ones here and that the notes apparently weren't
32:45
pulled from but uh basically they've already got a couple of Hardware
32:48
Partners they've worked with I believe it was uh
32:53
foxcon and I want to say uh shoot it was
32:57
some other it was some other Chinese phone maker can't remember exactly but
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um oh o TCL I think is the TCL is the
33:05
other one so here we go uh this one
33:09
right here so the first touchcreen only Android device the dtec 50 that was
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released in July 2016 so to reduce cost this was based on a phone manufactured
33:18
by TCL so the idea is they're going to leverage those Partnerships uh they're
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going to kind of blackberry brand
33:25
existing Hardware which quite frankly I don't think is inherently the worst
33:31
thing ever and then they're going to be putting their own uh their own kind of
33:35
spin on Android in order to I guess make it more secure or
33:40
whatever this is something I can't really figure out why Google hasn't
33:43
tackled like why do we need Samsung's knock in order to yeah optimize Android
33:49
for better security I uh well okay whatever okay I guess
33:56
that's a conversation for another day but there you go would would you consider
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okay here Luke you were the last one to
34:03
review a BlackBerry device on our channel the Z10 I think it
34:08
was and it was a while ago but yeah okay
34:11
so your takeaway from that if I recall correctly feel free to kind of jump in
34:15
and interrupt me here but your takeaway from that if I recall was basically
34:19
there were some things about it that were really good including text messaging um it was responsive was like
34:25
pretty smooth to use but not having apps
34:28
is basically the end of the world yes okay now there were even even back then
34:33
there were ways to like ghetto side load Android apps but it was not great but it
34:38
was not great in fact it was super dumb so would you consider a Blackberry phone
34:43
if they have a mostly stock Android looking skin and other than that it's
34:49
just a pH phone and with Blackberry
34:53
security optimizations it dep like my
34:56
most important m right now for phones personally are
35:01
water resistance levels and battery life
35:06
um which is like why the iPhone 7 looked
35:10
kind of cool and then all a sudden it was like no headphone jack and I was
35:14
like all right probably not going to do that um so it would have to depend on
35:20
how well they did in those categories right one thing that I really really did
35:25
like was the Blackberry hub
35:28
um so for like an efficiency standpoint it might actually win the Blackberry Hub
35:33
was a wonderful system I liked it a lot more than just like standard
35:36
notifications because you just see everything in one category made it very
35:40
efficient to skim through things it's like uh Google inbox or whatever that
35:44
was called that we all got kind of excited for for a little while and then the entire world forgot about
35:50
um but like better and for
35:53
everything instead of just your email which was super cool but like I'll wait
35:58
and see till they come out if they have good water resistance and good battery I
36:02
would legitimately consider it yeah I actually on the subject of the iPhone 7
36:07
I was talking to one of my badminton buddies who got an iPhone 7 and I was
36:11
like so how's it uh not having a headphone jack there and he's just like
36:16
oh I actually haven't really noticed I only use my jbirds and I was just like
36:20
wow okay I'm officially no longer mainstream I'm officially like an old
36:25
fuddy duddy for actually car in around
36:29
wired earphones at all times I say
36:33
though like their wireless ear pods look
36:36
incredibly stupid and I'm not even like
36:39
I'm not really a fashioned dude or whatever but they just look so dumb um
36:43
there are wireless headphone solutions that don't look incredibly stupid but
36:48
theirs are brutal and considering uh Apple often gets described as like a
36:53
technology jewelry company where like what you're buying is a fash
36:58
style te yeah that's kind of brutal
37:01
because they're ugly as Sin so I don't
37:04
know uh if people start adopting
37:08
thirdparty headphone options I that are Bluetooth I see it being a little bit
37:12
more popular but regardless of the power
37:15
of Apple to make something trendy I think those headphones are just
37:19
fundamentally ugly and I don't think they're going to be able to get over that we'll see I mean we will see but
37:26
yeah I don't you know white white wires on your on your earphones that like that
37:31
look grungy and yellow in two weeks became a status symbol so that's
37:37
true there you go I don't know man but at least they looked cool at the
37:43
start oh oh ouch okay I don't know for
37:47
me a phone like I I'll either have to buy a charging and headphone adapter if
37:53
I were to want to use the iPhone 7 or I would be just unable use it because I so
37:59
my earphones I wear them while I sleep um I always listen to music or podcasts
38:05
or shows while I'm sleeping because it uh it helps me it helps me fall asleep
38:10
like it used to take me sometimes an hour two hours to fall asleep at night I had horrible insomnia uh to the point
38:15
where I was like taking sleeping pills sometimes just because I'd be like I
38:19
really need to be awake in the morning so I will take this sleeping pill now
38:23
because otherwise I will not sleep um
38:26
and this completely fixed it for me uh
38:29
the best one is I'll I'll watch a show like I'll listen to cuz I'm not watching
38:33
it but I'll listen to a TV show like
38:37
episode that I've heard 20 times and
38:41
that's like it's boring and it puts me to sleep it's great so um yeah problem
38:48
solved all I have to do is wear earphones when I sleep but I can't charge my phone and listen to these at
38:53
the same time if it doesn't have a headphone jack so there you go
38:58
everyone's giving me advice in twitch chat I'm not asking for advice I have
39:01
fixed the problem he's been doing this for years
39:04
and it works very well for him I think he's it's great anywhere from like five
39:08
to 18 minutes just get medical tape and tape over your ears so that the
39:13
headphones can Bluetooth in and they won't fall out while you sleep it's it's
39:17
no man no man you're doing it wrong brilliant you got to get on that medical
39:21
tape game wow the entire twitch chat is
39:24
just like oh Francisco Ela is officially
39:29
fired from watching the show I listen to this show because it's
39:36
boring that's a little sad but it's also kind of funny so are we I mean okay this
39:42
this Demands a straw pole oh God this
39:46
Demands a straw pole okay are we your
39:49
sleep
39:54
aid how do how do you feel knowing that you might uh
39:57
help people fall asleep at night I mean I guess that's a useful public service
40:02
but like come on are We your comfy
40:05
pillow that is really not what I was going for here so far 100% of the vote
40:11
okay there we go there we go it's getting a little better oh oh oh oh come
40:16
on come
40:21
on what
40:24
54% yes God guys fight the 54% okay vote
40:30
Yes Luke come on yes what's wrong with
40:35
you hey the ways I help you sleep we don't talk about on this
40:41
show we only allude to them right yeah
40:44
and I can't do it from here buddy well I mean I mean
40:49
tell oh oh we've got over a thousand
40:53
votes I mean that is like that's significant enough that uh
40:57
it could be considered the definition of
41:03
significant I'm sad now okay well at least this answers a question that you
41:08
and I have posed to each other a handful
41:11
of times why do people watch the WAN
41:14
show and now we know y because they're
41:18
tired Y and it's time to go to bed that
41:22
makes sense so maybe like our time zoning thing was wrong we should
41:26
actually be going for nighttime instead of like
41:30
midday I had no way of knowing bro yeah
41:33
I had no way of knowing okay now we know
41:36
all right hard drives are on the ropes
41:39
maybe okay there we go no conspiracy theory that's why we're late every
41:44
time because we're trying to be later you're waiting for the W show you start
41:48
kind of dozing off a little bit on you're like okay good you press the
41:52
button and then you just fade off that's right everything's fine drift to sleep
41:57
everything's good and then you never wake up unless you feel
42:02
refreshed yeah yeah okay so this was
42:05
posted by it's me on the Forum ssds are steadily displacing hard
42:12
drives in more applications but
42:16
NVMe this is interesting uh this is from Tom's Hardware NVMe shaping up to be the
42:22
dark horse that may put the venerable
42:26
hard dis drive to rest so this is based
42:30
on Samsung predicting a collision course
42:34
for SSD pricing and hard drive
42:38
pricing D actually think that will mean hard
42:44
drives will be done
42:47
because well in the Enterprise sure
42:50
sorry in like Enterprise like cloud storage sure yeah at the home they'll
42:56
probably die off quite a bit faster but like being able to put critical stuff on
43:01
a hard drive that you can recover if it
43:05
fails kind of nice storing things on a variety of different mediums is a good
43:11
thing I don't know I don't know I see hard drives becoming okay so so here's
43:16
the things to look at so number
43:19
one have we reach the limit of what
43:23
people actually need to store like yes people take lots of photos and they take
43:27
lots of videos on their phones and that's one of the things that hard drive
43:31
makers have loved talking about at conferences or at or in presentations uh
43:37
conference calls where they'll kind of be like yeah the data storage needs of
43:40
the world is going like this but the reality of it is that cloud storage
43:46
pricing is such that if people wanted to
43:50
store their data somewhere where they theoretically you know don't have to
43:55
worry about it getting lost or or being vulnerable to a failed device um cloud
44:02
storage for the amount that most people have like a couple terabytes is pretty
44:07
reasonable yeah yeah so have we gotten
44:11
have we reached that threshold where ssds are starting to hit that one to two
44:15
terabyte capacity where they hold pretty much everything you could need unless
44:19
you have a gigantic steam library and you don't have you have dial up internet
44:23
so you need to preload everything so that you'd never have to download or
44:27
whatever so we're talking edge cases where most people can hold everything
44:32
they could need on their phone or their computer or backed up in the cloud
44:37
especially looking at the way that okay Google for example gives you unlimited
44:41
photo storage through photos if you allow them to compress the image yeah
44:46
what else do people store you stream all your music sorry go ahead go ahead I'm
44:50
done this ties in to to when did I bring this up like last week I was like when
44:55
are when are people not going to have SATA cables
44:59
anymore yeah yep so like this might I
45:03
still think that's a little ways out but this might kind of advance that up even
45:08
a little bit more it's going to be really interesting seeing computers that
45:12
don't need space to put
45:16
drives yep interesting yep and then I
45:19
think at that point everything is either backed up in the cloud or you have
45:23
you'll have the enthusiasts who are the guys like me that have an UNR Bo in
45:28
their clet or because they want to be a to trans code video on the Fly and they
45:33
want to be able to do this they want to store uncompressed uncompressed Blu-ray
45:37
rips on on a network machine so that they can play it back you know on any
45:41
screen in the house like there's going to be enthusiasts and I think for guys
45:45
like that like the hard drive is by no means dead for me not even close yeah
45:51
but I'm also at the point where one of
45:55
the videos that I have coming soon is the the most cost effective 100 terabyte
46:00
server and what I learned when I was working on that video is that with
46:05
seates archive drives which sit at
46:08
around three cents a Gigabyte or something like that like just obscenely
46:13
low cost with an archive drive I can
46:16
saturate a typical gigabit home network
46:20
already so you could do 100 terabytes
46:24
for I kind of want to pull up my spreadsheet now so I don't give you guys
46:27
the wrong number but that video is coming soon but AR uh seates archive
46:31
drives are 247 rated drives they run at 5900 RPM um and you can buy a 100
46:37
terabytes of hard drive
46:40
for cost per gig is uh 2.9 cents and 100
46:46
terabytes for $3,000
46:49
okay I think from an Enthusiast standpoint all that number needs to do
46:55
is fall down to another or another third
46:58
and I think 100 terab is reasonably all that most people could
47:04
need and there will always be the exceptions the people that want to back
47:07
up the internet or whatever the case may
47:10
the only Channel where you'll hear someone say I genuinely think a 100
47:15
terabytes is all that anyone's probably going to be
47:19
needing and obviously you know 50 years
47:23
from now that might not be the case but you look at the trends we are not on the
47:28
same path that we were before of you
47:31
know going from uh 480i being an acceptable you know video
47:38
standard to you know now we're at 4K explosion in data in data
47:43
requirements in order to get to a point where the quality is acceptable and now
47:48
the trend is towards dedicated Hardware
47:51
to handle video compression and video
47:55
decoding uh so where the the hardware in the devices is so much more powerful
47:59
that we don't have to have these obscene
48:02
bit rates in order to get decent image quality um and so I'm just kind of
48:06
looking at it going yeah everything could be compressed on the Fly
48:10
everything could be uh everything could be uh could be decoded and could be
48:15
converted on the Fly and I think that is like a ton of
48:20
storage I think it's just huge
48:24
yep I have yet to determine if I think 4K Blu-ray is worth is worth it I
48:30
actually all my 4K Blu-rays and my Xbox One S are here though so I'm going to be
48:33
trying it out very soon stay is that what those those Blu-rays that you just
48:38
ordered are HDR stuff yes because HDR
48:41
does genuinely look really good is that a conversation though but that's a
48:46
different conversation I think because HDR can also be handled again it's not
48:51
like going from 480i to 1080p HDR can be
48:56
added without necessarily okay so so we
48:59
doubled the capacity of a Blu-ray disc going from Blu-ray to 4K Blu-ray we
49:04
managed to quadruple the resolution and add HDR so we added a bunch more
49:09
contrast and color information and quadrupled the resolution we doubled the data so we're not on that same
49:14
trajectory anymore that's kind of the point I'm trying to make is I think that
49:18
we're using processing power which continues to increase and is pretty darn
49:21
impressive these days even in tiny little devices to compensate for
49:27
what we normally would have just added more storage for and that's been partly
49:31
out of necessity because storage hasn't really continued to scale in the same way that it has and I think that's why
49:36
Samsung is making this bold prediction where they're kind of going
49:40
okay SSD upgrades this is actually amazing 40 million ssds they're saying
49:45
SSD upgrade sometime in 2012 it looks
49:50
like overtook CPU upgrades as the most
49:54
common upgrade that people make to a computer that makes sense and they're
49:58
also saying that the SSD doesn't have to reach exactly the same pricing as a hard
50:02
drive gig for Gig it just has to reach a point where and we're there now where
50:06
256 gigs for an SSD is about the same as
50:09
a one tab hard drive so that entry level capacity versus that entry level
50:14
capacity they're saying it just has to be good enough and 512 gigs for me is
50:20
that sweet spot where I don't really feel like I need an additional storage
50:24
Drive anymore I can still have like
50:27
the two or three big games that I'm playing right now and I can still have
50:32
all the data that I need as long as I have a Nas and I think everyone should
50:35
have a NZ anyway yeah I don't I still don't personally feel like that's enough
50:40
in my desktop are you a one terabyte guy
50:44
I'm a four you're a four terabyte what the heck do you have on your computer
50:48
that takes up four terabytes and I have a 16 tab N I know
50:52
about your NZ it's that's an important part of my original question too mine is
51:00
slightly specially use case though because it's all the games because I hear you it doesn't take that long to
51:04
download them because isn't that bad but I don't want to sit and download games
51:08
while I'm streaming okay so i' like be able to
51:11
have everything available I think you should just go Icey then because your
51:15
Nas would support an Icey Target would it I I don't know that it's
51:22
pretty slow that Nas is not that fast all right
51:26
fair enough it's good at holding things for a long time it's not really doing
51:30
much else you know what's funny um I don't normally notice when gaming off of
51:35
a hard drive because generally speaking game developers are good at masking
51:39
those loading times I mean maybe part of it is uh that it's a heck of a lot
51:43
better than an optical disc and so many games are designed for optical media
51:47
still um but when I do run into trouble so so
51:53
my uh my home theater PC the one in my living room actually just has a small
51:57
boot SSD like it's actually kind of an older config like 128 gig boot SSD so I
52:02
pretty much can't put more than one AAA game on it if I want to have anything
52:06
else on it um another thing that I'm gonna I'm gonna sorry I'm gonna bring
52:10
this up the amount of people that are not only um like not not necessarily
52:16
that it's their job but the amount of people that are even just doing it as a
52:20
hobby yada y y Twitch streaming YouTube
52:24
all that kind of stuff people that are just doing Do It For Fun the amount of
52:27
people that are trying to get into it the amount of people that are successful at it is huge to the point where a lot
52:33
of people that I talk to in my day-to-day when I tell them what I do go
52:37
like oh yeah I've been kind of like trying that out or I tried that out at
52:41
one point in time storing footage is a
52:46
nightmare Computing stuff is a nightmare and like twitch streamers I know a not
52:52
that insignificant number of them that actually archive all of their footage
52:56
right which is kind of crazy I still I still think that's a niche case but um I
53:02
don't remember streaming archive yeah but like there's a lot of people that
53:06
dab dabbling in things like YouTube right now right yep that's true that's
53:10
true I still think hard drives will hold on but I think it's going to be instead
53:15
of the the thing that everyone buys for every single computer ever it's an
53:19
accessory purchase yeah yeah so either an accessory purchase for a little
53:23
external drive yeah or when you're ready to move to the big time I think it I
53:27
think Nas I think Nas moves in y um so
53:32
this is interesting this is one of the challenges for hard drive is that
53:35
there's roughly a $40 price floor hard drives have never been under you know
53:40
like $39.99 not unless it's a lost leader or
53:43
something along those lines whereas and this is something that Samsung's saying
53:47
ssds can scale well below $4 in much
53:51
smaller quantities cuz the hard drive no matter what no matter how cheaply you
53:56
can can make them you still need a casing Motors heads other you need the
54:00
the actual platters themselves so the platters and the complexity of the
54:05
motors and how many heads you need and how many platters are in it all that
54:09
increases in cost as you scale up but you can only go down to one platter yeah
54:14
and that costs how much it costs there's pretty much nothing we can do about it
54:17
and it's not really going to get any better um so Samsung also figures that
54:21
ssds have displaced hard drives in 40% of new notebooks and they predicted
54:25
reach 55% in 2018 and I totally get it and I personally definitely prefer ssds
54:31
uh back to my story I don't mind gaming off of a hard drive in general and I
54:35
forget a lot of the time that my media PC has a 2 tab hard drive to go along
54:39
with that small SSD but the other day I was trying to install a game by copying
54:44
the files over the network while trying to play a game and I loaded my game it's
54:50
like Lego Batman or something like not the world's most amending game and the
54:55
game sat there at the loading screen the entire time that those files were
55:00
copying and then as soon as they were done Boom game loaded just like yeah
55:05
that's brutal that's terrible I I like I
55:09
can't even basically comprehend using
55:12
like a hard drive based computer as my daily driver now any anytime I use
55:17
someone's that set up that way I'm like man you can make your life so much
55:21
better with a little bit of an upgrade here and then I point them to my like
55:26
hard drive SSD configuration video thing
55:30
like there even if you buy like a really small one like a 128 gig or something
55:35
you can still live and it'll still be far better and 128 gig ssds are like
55:40
pretty cheap these days all right so techrax has convinced
55:46
people the video has 10.3 million views and apparently I just opened it in
55:50
another browser window and I'm trying to no this I mean it's iPhone 7 so it can't
55:56
that old um so 10 days ago techrax has
56:00
convinced people to add headphone Jacks
56:04
to their iPhone 7S I haven't actually talked to him about this yet but I think
56:09
it's pretty funny um as with every
56:12
iPhone hoax every time this happens and it's
56:17
like make your iPhone waterproof with these easy steps hit it with a hammer
56:23
you like just just terrible terrible
56:26
ideas um tightening the handset in the metal
56:31
Vice the screen starts to flicker he promises his viewers this is normal uh
56:36
he just drills a hole kind of randomly he doesn't even pretend like he's not
56:40
even pulling a um a oh shoot my yeah
56:45
there Theo Joe he's not even pulling a Theo Joe here where he's like trying to
56:50
look like there's some kind of Science and methodology behind it he just pulls
56:53
out a drill drills a hole in the bottom goes boom there now it works I'm amazed
56:57
he was able to get far enough into the iPhone that he was able to insert a 3
57:02
and half mm Jack while it was still working you know what I noticed which I
57:05
thought was kind of hilarious was like okay there's the screen flickering when it's in the vice thing but he addresses
57:11
that when he plugs his headphones in it's still playing audio over the
57:15
speakers I know what
57:20
guys
57:25
yeah don't I also wonder at the same
57:28
time like if people are just saying they did it to get attention yeah and then
57:33
that multiplies of views on the video because everyone likes laughing at
57:36
stupid people right yeah that seems
57:39
pretty possible uh speaking of things that are
57:43
possible I would have never imagined this to be possible Tinder for sperm
57:47
donors swipe right for a sperm
57:50
donor the London sperm bank is now taking orders for customized dads in the
57:56
UK they released a Tinder esque mobile app that lets women filter potential
57:59
sperm donors based on traits like ethnicity occupation personality type ey
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color and more that's cool the search results are labeled with numbers like
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donor 10002 instead of
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names so without getting into too many
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details about my family history what I
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will say oh wow is that sperm donors can
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lie and some of them might fill out their form saying that they are oh I
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don't know say for example a doctor and might turn out to be a milk truck
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driver so I don't know what steps they're going through to prevent um
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fraud in this case but um anyway the app
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also gives women the option to create wishlist alerts for POS surrogate
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fathers if they already know what they want and aren't interested in browsing
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it will notify them when they're preferred characteristics become available the selected sample will be
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sent to the fertility specialist where the woman is undergoing treatment once a
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approximately $122,000 payment is made through the app and
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uh there you go uh some critics say this is great
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this is from the qz.com article say that there's a difference between narrowing
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down food delivery options by Cuisines and choosing sperm donors by eye
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color um
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the abundance of choice and narrowness of selection categor as they save could
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exacerbate the eugenic tendencies that already exist at traditional sperm
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banks wow so uh yeah there you go it's
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legal what I would hope that it would do
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is when you swipe right say so you're
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like accepting it then like sends you a more detailed
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profile I don't know appar apparently the all the donors in the app have to be
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approved by the British andrology Society uh the British fertilization
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society and the human fertilization and embryology authority to ensure they
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don't have any infections or genetic conditions so at least there's that
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going for them how do you define a genetic condition um I don't know like
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could stupidity be a genetic condition
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because me if it runs in your family line all right so thanks for tuning in
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to the L this week guys we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat
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Channel I probably won't be here um so
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Luke you'll probably be on Wow upload Duty do you know how to do
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it uh yes no I think what I'll do is I will
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screen record me doing the entire thing tonight cool and then I will think that
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to you way safer if you just do that I'm just going to do that I'll put it in the
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wow folder on the server sorry we we'll take this conversation offline thanks
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again next next thanks again next week thanks again I'm rolling the intro same
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same someone in twitch chat wants me to say you're not my real
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dad
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know