AMD RYZEN 7 OFFICIAL LAUNCH - ALL THE DETAILS!

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2017-05-06 · 1,683 words · ~8 min read
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0:17 oh I just sat through over three hours
0:22 of AMD presentations and what do I have to show
0:26 for it well we know it'll be available starting 2:22 2017 which is today and
0:32 that performance will be competitive with Intel's core i7 lineup but as we've
0:36 been saying for so long that means nothing if it's priced the same so is it
0:43 well as it stands today AMD ryzen looks
0:48 poised to deliver top shelf performance
0:51 and do so at an incredibly disruptive
0:54 price so let's have a closer
0:58 look
1:08 so we'll start by talking about the lineup all the general stuff we confirmed back at CES is still true dual
1:13 Channel memory overclockable across the board assuming you've got a motherboard
1:17 chipset that supports it and 24 PCIe Lanes but we have a ton more details now
1:24 so at the top of the product stack is the ryzen 7
1:28 1800x this is an 8 core 16 thread
1:31 processor okay that we knew before but now we know clock speeds it runs at 3.6
1:37 to 4 GHz though it'll actually boost up
1:41 to 4.1 with what they're calling xfr or
1:44 extended frequency range assuming you've got the cooling horses for it and it is
1:49 coming in at a tiny well okay it's still
1:53 expensive but $4.99 AMD is positioning this a 95 wat
1:59 500 part up against Intel's 130 wat
2:04 $1,000 6900k though as usual the
2:08 top-of-the-line part isn't necessarily the most compelling and things get even
2:13 more interesting as we work our way down the stack so behind me here is the 1700
2:19 x it still gets the X for like X Factor
2:24 so it's a 95 watt part you should expect better overclocking out of it compared
2:28 to a non-x part and it still features their extended frequency range so it
2:33 runs from 3.4 to 3.8 or 3.9 with
2:37 appropriate cooling it's still got eight cores it's still got 16 threads and it
2:43 does all of this priced at $3.99 which
2:47 puts it competitive with the
2:51 6800k which is actually the demo that they have behind
2:55 us before we do the demos we've got to introduce the good
3:00 member of this good better best product stack this is the ryzen
3:06 7700 this guy is a little bit unique you
3:10 still get eight cores you still get 16 threads but now we're talking
3:15 significantly lower clock speeds 3 GHz
3:18 base up to 3.7 GHz boost and you get a
3:22 significantly lower TDP 65 Watts making
3:26 this the lowest rated 8 core desktop
3:29 processor on the market and you will be doing this
3:33 at a slightly lower price $329 compared
3:37 to a 7700k so that would be a quad core eight
3:42 thread processor that it's going up against but come on lonus enough
3:47 spreadsheets show us show us so uh they
3:51 gave us access to their cine bench demo unsupervised which was unwise of them
3:55 let's go ahead and run that while I explain what's going on behind me so we
3:58 have a ryzen 7 1800x remember that's the topof the line one $499 with 16 gigs of
4:04 RAM on some validation board then over
4:08 on the other side they've got the hardware right here we can see it we've
4:11 got a 6900k running with 32 gigs of
4:14 Corsair Dominator platinum on an ASUS Rog board so they really couldn't give
4:18 it much more of an advantage and then we're running cin bench with
4:22 multi-threading enabled and the results are in so right here here's the
4:28 6900k can actually see okay nothing's
4:31 disabled 1479 and over here is the ryzen 7 Zedd
4:38 3601 B it's an engineering sample but
4:41 whatever what it's a ryzen 7 1800
4:44 x600 marks at half the price now
4:49 obviously this isn't the whole story when it comes to CPU performance but it
4:53 is definitely an impressive demo though not as impressive as this one I'm going
4:57 to press this big red button which has been beckoning at me since I pressed it
5:02 five minutes ago and I'm starting what AMD is calling
5:07 their megat tasking demo which is a
5:10 combination of blender and handbreak designed to test the multitasking of
5:16 these CPUs although I believe megat tasking was like an AMD TM thing that
5:21 they were using back when they were marketing I think it was Tri cores or
5:25 six cores or something like that against Intel's quad cores and dual cores anyway
5:30 all that's ancient history at this point the point of the demo is that we are
5:34 timing how long it takes to run this octane demo and this hand breing code
5:40 that you can see here is running in the background on these two systems so
5:44 they've put the 1700x remember this is the 399 8 core 16 thread up against
5:50 Intel's core i7 6800k once again the systems are similar
5:56 though AMD has for whatever reason kneecapped themselves with 16 gigs of
6:00 ddr4 versus Intel's 32 gigs of
6:04 ddr4 and now I just have an awful lot of
6:07 time to kill so I will use this opportunity to talk about how they have
6:11 a lot of cool systems here on display from all of their Partners this could be
6:16 one of the most complete AMD ecosystem launches that that we have ever seen I
6:22 think they're saying something along the lines of 82 motherboards available at
6:27 launch with more to come and I think it 18 system integrators that are going to
6:31 have systems ready to go at launch it seems like there's a lot of confidence
6:35 in the am4 platform while the AMD
6:39 system's done maybe we could just like time lapse
6:44 through this so people know we aren't faking it there we go okay so 91.6
6:49 seconds versus 112.1 seconds I mean none of this should
6:54 be that surprising from a Pure
6:57 Performance numbers stand point I mean we're looking at an 8 core 16 thread
7:03 processor versus a 6 core 12 thread
7:07 processor but AMD is not designing this test to be fair in terms of core count
7:12 to core count they're designing it around pricing this chip on the right
7:17 costs less than this chip on the left
7:22 really yeah wait
7:26 oh you were in the same presentation I was leading us finally to what may be
7:33 the most disruptive skew of all the 1700
7:36 so this one is as I said before $329
7:39 putting it around the same price as a 7700k and you can see right here they've
7:45 got two demo systems running again side by side with a ryzen 7 17008 core and a
7:53 core i7 7700k and they're playing Dota 2 while
7:57 streaming using obs at the same settings
8:01 they really let us get a lot closer to the demos here so we're able to validate
8:05 all of this stuff ourselves and demonstrating how and I had been asking
8:10 for this for many generations why is the mainstream still limited to quad core so
8:15 they're showing us how more cores can benefit a multi-threaded workload even
8:20 for gamers so the core i77700k stream drops frames while the
8:26 1700 stream does not
8:30 this last demo Battlefield 1 at 4K is actually one we've seen before sort of
8:36 we've had some of the blanks filled in this time so we already knew that ryzen
8:40 unnamed was up against a 6800k with ddr4 memory and dual Titan
8:46 XPS and SLI but what we didn't know was exactly what that ryzen chip was or what
8:51 speed it was running at so now we know it is actually their lowest tier ryzen
8:56 7700 that's the 65 watt part
9:00 and we know that it runs at anywhere from 3 GHz to 3.7 GHz in this case it's
9:05 running at about 3.65 which might tell
9:08 us something interesting about the granularity of the way that ryzen
9:14 boosts anyway back to the game the other
9:17 key difference between then and now is that AMD has their boost technology
9:22 working so while at CES frame rates were
9:25 the same to within a frame or three now here we are looking at EX exactly the
9:29 same starting scene driving our tank exactly the same way and ryzen 7700 has
9:35 a clear performance advantage and a
9:38 significant one now to be fair AMD is picking their battle somewhat here they
9:43 could have put it up against the much more similarly priced
9:47 7700k which due to its higher frequency
9:50 is in most cases a better gaming CPU than a COR i7
9:54 6800k but there's no denying here that
9:58 there's a compelling value case to be made for this chip that outperforms a
10:02 6800k at about $100 less so all that's
10:06 fine in good line is this is the kind of CPU that we can have 4.8 billion
10:11 transistors 2 kilometers of signal wiring if we're not concerned about
10:15 putting Graphics processors inside them
10:18 but you've left out the most important part does it have RGB and the answer is
10:25 yes you are looking at an RGB AMD St
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