Our best effort still SUCKS - Sketchy Heatsinks 3

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2019-05-06 · 3,079 words · ~15 min read
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0:00 it's been over a year since the last episode of sketchy heatsinks
0:04 this project was actually probably alex's worst at
0:08 the company it was over time over budget
0:11 and the end result was absolutely
0:14 abominable so i told him
0:18 we're not doing sketchy heat sinks again unless you can do a better job than this
0:23 which you might think is a reasonably low bar but then it took an entire year
0:29 to bring another concept to the table so you're already over time and over budget
0:33 but to your credit this does look
0:37 a lot more promising
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0:56 all but not fair at all what part of it was not fair first of all this is amazing it
1:02 cooled the processor great but anyway what was not fair about that is that i
1:05 just did not have the tools that i needed to properly do it
1:10 you had a blank check to buy the tools you needed that's not an excuse okay
1:14 okay let's just yeah let's yeah let's just get to let's put the past in the past
1:19 all right so the plan for this one is we're actually going to put heat
1:23 pipes into aluminum and then have
1:27 actual aluminum fins so we're going to try to make a hyper 212 basically yeah
1:32 pretty much exactly it's like largely ripped off of them if you look at the
1:35 design here basically we're going to do is take one of these guys
1:40 drill six holes directly down in then
1:44 we're going to stick the heat pipes in bend them at 90 degrees and they'll go
1:48 up through the fins which will have also six holes in them and are you gonna
1:51 solder the heat pipes to the aluminum or
1:55 um they're going to be thermal epoxied on you can't solder them
1:59 because like pipes will explode if you eat them the only
2:03 part that really sketches me out is bending the heat pipe
2:07 which hopefully will be done with this but i don't know if we'll get a full 90
2:11 degrees on it so if that doesn't work it's gonna have to sort of come out
2:16 at two angles like a v8 or a v6 i guess
2:20 that's going to make the holes through the fins a complete nightmare oh we'll
2:24 have like fins on either side we'll like cut them in half
2:28 and they'll like come out like this the first order of business was to see
2:32 how far we could bend the tubes we ordered 10 heat pipes so we only have
2:37 four chances to figure this out oh man this is
2:42 this is such a terrible bender oh my god authority just stuck on itself
2:48 oh this is about to get gross
2:51 out of the box the guide on the bender wasn't correctly aligned how is this
2:55 thing so balls so we needed to make up some of the slop to get consistent bends
3:00 so the working idea
3:03 to make this which goes the wrong way compared
3:08 to the tubing sizes line up correctly
3:12 is to just give her with the gaff tape
3:15 hopefully it'll work
3:21 i guess what you get for buying like a 20 thing
3:30 i think that'll work
3:34 will it fit
3:39 so we've got the clearance there uh
3:42 looks good
3:46 yeah that one didn't quite work out
3:51 oh that one did not work out either those are both totally mangled
3:55 this one right here this one worked out
3:58 so we're going 45 degrees with the heat pipe angles decided it was
4:02 time to move on to creating the base that would sit on top of the CPU out of
4:06 aluminum stock we have a guide for the CPU block what we
4:11 really needed was a three and a half by three and a half inch square but it was
4:15 cheaper to buy four inch stock so the first order of business was to cut it
4:19 down then with our square cut down to the correct size we needed to drill the
4:23 holes for the heat pipes to go in huh
4:28 it's basically a milling machine
4:31 ah that's not gonna work
4:39 problem solved
4:45 perfect could not have been better
4:49 well it definitely could have been better but is this even going to hold this in place
4:53 oh yeah it should be fine i didn't want to like take the time to
4:56 measure all the holes so i just laser cut them captain should be fine everyone
5:00 this this one is fine that one this
5:04 is gonna go through there yep i don't think you have a plan
5:09 i i was just gonna eyeball it sweet about
5:12 thera look good no this way but that way that too hey look it's got a
5:17 laser
5:20 yeah it doesn't work well
5:24 if only we had a rubber mallet prepare for some lube to go everywhere
5:35 well i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to
5:39 apply that while it's spinning if only we had brushes here
5:43 you know i approve everything you want to buy
5:47 all you have to do is order it well we also literally have brushes so
5:53 i want to try it
5:56 i mean you wanted something to go wrong so now we can both get our wish yeah
6:00 that's lots
6:07 oh yeah you want that
6:13 this actually isn't as far off as i was expecting why are you expecting it to be
6:16 off gee i i don't know
6:20 wow these don't fit that tightly they fit tightly enough
6:24 some of them are tighter than others this one's pretty loose
6:27 how are you gonna get all that oil out of there i was planning on just kind of
6:31 cramming it full of thermal paste and uh
6:38 you can't just slap a block of aluminum on the CPU though since it will
6:42 interfere with the capacitors around the socket so this side with the holes i
6:46 don't want to destroy them so that's why i'm using the hacksaw for this
6:51 i can see this really quickly just turning into my angle grinding
7:42 with capacitor clearance cut and sharp edges removed with the sander and file
7:46 the block was looking like it might work it's drill pressing time again well i'll
7:51 have to let you do that yourself i have other pressing matters to attend to
7:56 all right bye no satisfaction it's excellent time
8:00 no no i'm still satisfied i don't need you to
8:03 get off to be satisfied oh it's so much more on the edge i love
8:07 it with more lube
8:16 perfect i love how proud you are such a great fit cool with our plan fully
8:21 worked out it was time to bend the rest of the heat pipes all right now we need
8:25 to do six of these
8:28 and i can make two errors during that
8:31 and i don't know if i'm capable of that really these are kind of finicky and
8:35 this tool sucks and i say
8:38 that but i just made it look easy so
8:42 we have one left over we can tell Linus to do the last one and tell them that it
8:46 actually matters and see what happens
8:53 nice well that was easy enough
8:56 the problem that we have to go over now
9:00 we have all of these sheets of aluminum yeah and they need to go on these
9:04 yes so we need to drill
9:07 these holes in these and we need to figure out a
9:11 good way to hold these got the clamps
9:16 yeah we seem to be on the same page here so do we want to do half of them like
9:20 that i don't know you're you claim to be the
9:24 expert that moved a fair bit while you were
9:27 putting it on i don't even know how much that's going
9:31 to affect the bit wandering
9:34 oh that moved so much
9:38 okay uh oh wow how are we gonna do this
9:43 professional this is where we find out if
9:46 this project's gonna be on time or not
9:53 yeah it cuts through these like butter
9:56 not bad they are mostly in a straight line-ish
10:00 yeah i think so just some cleaning and prep was left until it was time to do a
10:04 test fit and make sure it would all go together all those clear that awesome
10:11 come on okay so about there
10:15 the fit surprisingly was pretty good although a couple needed to be trimmed
10:19 down so that we could get the maximum number of fins onto the heatsink
10:27 oh nice so we got this thermally conductive adhesive from mg chemicals
10:33 which hopefully when put between the fins and the heat pipes will
10:38 conduct most of the heat i don't know the thermal conductivity on it isn't
10:42 great but it's the best that we've got
10:45 or that exists really this kind of looks like candy tuna i
10:50 don't think i'd recommend putting this on your sushi sushi
10:53 sushi oh man that smells like tuna too our choice of medium cure time epoxy
10:58 means we'd have about 45 minutes to work with it before it cures first the heat
11:03 pipe holes in the block were filled with nth-1 thermal compound and then the
11:07 thermal epoxy was put on the end to hold them in place
11:11 suppose it's done i guess
11:15 oh my god these are like almost gone from here the heat pipes were covered in
11:19 thermal epoxy and the plan anyway was to
11:23 just jam the fins on i guess before i put the epoxy on i should have made sure
11:26 that all six heat pipes will go into this all right
11:30 to keep the fins from sticking together we resorted to some good old-fashioned
11:33 canadian engineering using pieces of a cut up tim hortons box to space them out
11:38 we repeated this process until we were out of fins so while you're off spending
11:42 company money on lunch actually that was personal lunch with
11:46 personal money same thing so i basically
11:49 finished it oh finished is a word
11:52 so don't move it too much it's still setting but i noticed that something i
11:57 hadn't really thought of until now uh all the heat pipes are together
12:01 which oh yeah probably isn't the most efficient way to do that no yeah it's
12:05 going to be like right here is where all the heat gets
12:09 dissipated and then this is all just worth it yeah like probably the
12:12 like outer inch or so is doing nothing
12:15 so aluminum here doesn't help us a whole lot it probably should have been copper
12:20 but it would have been way more difficult to machine and stuff you're
12:23 calling what you did machining
12:26 yes at this point all that was left to do was leave it to cure overnight and
12:31 gather some comparative benchmark data so we could determine just how good or
12:35 bad our creation really is it's really dumb that Windows doesn't automatically
12:39 restore connection to network drives all the time i mean far be it from us to
12:43 criticize other people's products at this moment
12:46 though we pay for their products though
12:50 no one's buying this i paid for it uh you're getting paid for
12:55 it the total cost of this monstrosity
12:58 was 107.38 which is canadian dollars so that's two
13:04 dollars less than an hd15 and let's find out how long it takes to
13:08 mount i guess now you've stolen some mounting hardware i see here this looks
13:13 like uh Noctua mounting hardware that's sort of cheating that's revised to
13:16 everyone though so i think it's okay and it's the first one that wasn't mounted with zip ties so
13:21 it's a pretty big improvement what we're looking for so Intel stock
13:25 heatsink okay took 40 seconds to mount
13:29 okay the cooler master hyper 212 took 9 minutes
13:33 and 30 seconds okay so that's what we're looking to beat so we start the time
13:38 right now um sure this is kind of cheating because we're using two people
13:42 but i think this thing needs every advantage it can get hold on no i don't
13:45 have to hold it from the bottom actually and of course this is going to be a hard
13:48 mount now not a spring mount because our block is so thick these
13:53 aren't going to reach oh did you check you didn't check
13:57 i might still have an old school water block mount in my office this is
14:02 like training wheels off CPU mounting
14:05 we could probably go a little tighter but it's fine
14:08 no we're not going to use a blowy on this that's cheating well i figured that
14:13 if that doesn't work i think rubber bands is actually probably a better bet
14:17 yeah sure good enough all right it's 54
14:20 seconds still being hyper 212
14:24 so the hyper 212 idles were like 30 40 degrees the Intel stock was
14:29 regularly getting up to 60. it's still 30 degrees it's not going up
14:34 yeah so do we hit it with a load it's kind of cheating to put like a 30
14:39 fan on it too i realized that but i just wasn't gonna mention it
14:45 like we definitely could have just like c and seed out the whole block
14:49 got the pipes professionally done it wouldn't even cost that much probably
14:53 would have cost less than a drill press
14:56 there's no fun in this exactly that's why it's our job to do it wrong it's not
15:00 even warming up like our heat pipes with
15:03 their lesser bend may actually have some kind of
15:08 efficiency improvement in terms of their evaporation and condensation another
15:13 thing that we haven't really considered is that even though our heat pipes look
15:17 like they're the same diameter they might be like a high quality heat pipe
15:21 so we don't know if these are good heat pipes or not i would say that they are
15:24 they cost like 80 bucks
15:28 and you were just like ruining them all right hit me with the flear
15:32 i want to see this first whoa it's really cool yeah the hottest
15:37 part is the fan hub yeah like if you look at the motherboard
15:42 i mean there's the coolest spot is our heatsink the base of our heatsink
15:47 is tops like 31 degrees as measured by
15:50 this you compare that to like this capacitor
15:54 at 35 so CPU score is seven
15:59 like 73 26 73 26 how does that compare
16:03 we're right up there with the hype same as the hyper 212
16:06 i mean there's plenty of time for it to buckle under a sustained load i guess
16:10 oh okay so that jumped right up to 83
16:14 degrees on the hottest core so far still turboing huh
16:18 full turbo no throttle oh it's still climbing though 86 degrees yeah so our
16:23 victory there might have just been purely on mass alone so i have a
16:28 solution to this what's that we call it a gaming heatsink
16:34 then when people say well you know under a sustained all-core load it actually
16:38 doesn't perform as well we say well it's designed for gaming so if we had spread
16:42 out our heat pipes more which we knew yeah was better that's why they design
16:48 it like this so that way that little area around the heat pipe
16:52 right in the path of the most optimal parts of the fan
16:57 is exactly right yeah and that's why it ends like a fingers width away from the
17:02 heat pipe because you're just nothing's happening if you have more
17:05 aluminum here all right so it hasn't thermal throttle though or it's thermal throttle but it
17:10 hasn't it has it doesn't it's not turboing anymore it's actually no you
17:14 know it's still above base clock 3.85
17:18 is above the base 3.7 clock speed of an 8700k
17:23 so do we declare victory
17:26 it's better than Intel stock it's worse than a hyper 212 so assuming
17:31 that you have a half a dozen heat pipes some blocks of aluminum and a bunch of
17:36 aluminum sheets a drill press some
17:39 thermal epoxy and a lot of time on your hands
17:42 you can conceivably have a better cooler than the Intel stock cooler that your
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