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The WAN Show - AMD and NVIDIA at it Again! - September 4, 2015

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0:01 is the camera supposed to be that zoomed out so stay here and wait and yeah is

0:05 the camera supposed to be that zoomed out we seem super far away welcome to

0:08 the Bro show the Bro show yeah so

0:12 hopefully the audio is not terrible I'm going to wait hopefully someone will

0:15 tell me if it's horrible one of the cool things that you might have seen or might

0:18 not have seen is that I'm mobile I can just like go around we have chairs that

0:24 have rly things which basically makes this work it's perfect I love you guys

0:29 Welcome to the intro it's not

0:32 working all right intro intro

0:38 intro intro yes success audio is out of sync awesome

0:46 that's good all

0:58 right linda.com Linda learn all the things

1:04 about all the stuff it's squarespace.com make all the things about the websites

1:09 and stuff actually linda.com is great you can learn a whole bunch of different

1:13 stuff and squarespace.com is great you can make a whole bunch of different websites using their templ things caning

1:19 back here now I can even tell the audio is out of sync here well wow there's

1:24 lency just say what you were going to say and then mou it afterwards so hey

1:29 hey this is a good

1:37 show so the the video is out of sync still I don't know dude turn up the

1:42 volume I can do that the the video is delayed

1:48 here so I think it's the capture card or

1:52 something Co I don't know out super out

1:56 of syn I'm just hanging out while everyone freaks out I want to run

2:01 away okay so I don't know why is there there's no delays set

2:06 up on anything so that's not

2:13 good that's probably a good idea did all the camera people just leave they did

2:18 when we're having camera problems yep that's what camera people

2:22 do they just leave you when you need them you just can't trust them okay well

2:31 I don't know turn vsync on always the problem I wish wouldn't

2:38 that be

2:41 great delay the audio track that's not a

2:45 bad idea but I don't know how delayed the video track is um want to make a

2:50 guess three three milliseconds that's

2:53 really fast maybe more milliseconds 30 30 milliseconds okay

2:58 that seems like a lot

3:02 okay let's try 20 that's the wrong keyboard let's try

3:08 20 20

3:12 okay uh wasn't the audio already delayed

3:15 though so delaying it wouldn't that increase the issue or

3:19 we no I think the video is delayed I think the audio is on time I think the

3:23 video is delayed so if we delay the audio then they should mesh up gotcha

3:27 how's it how's it working guys

3:31 did that not work at all 300

3:36 Wow audio delay

3:41 300 that seems huge but we're now trying 300 where's

3:48 Justin isn't Justin our official stream Watcher talk to me about the things it's

3:54 pretty okay um so I think

3:58 maybe

4:01 I just tried 300 I don't really work in milliseconds some people are saying a

4:05 little bit more so maybe I'll try 400 400 yeah 400 okay 400 thanks for working

4:10 with me on this twitch chat we're basically diagnosing everything together

4:14 so instead of watching Tech tips what you guys can actually do is just tune in

4:18 to the WAN Show and then you can learn your own Tech tips from like helping us

4:23 fix things cuz we we're crowdsourcing the the fixes this is Kickstarter but

4:29 live and don't have to donate exactly it's crowdsourced uh Tech tips so we

4:35 just went to 400 so let me know what you guys think

4:39 of that Justin I'd like some input from you as well we need we need help from

4:44 internal sources and external sources to optimize the throughput of our audio and

4:49 video 500 500

4:55 okay 500 500 we've got 500 here we're

4:59 going to try 500 people are saying 420 but I de 420 YOLO 360 I was going to say

5:04 if lonus was here it' be he'd put it at 420 that's something he would do I put

5:07 it 500

5:12 no some guy said 9,000 that would probably work over 9,000 would probably

5:18 work 9,000 is kind of you're trying but you're not fully

5:22 there yeah if I had like I was going to

5:25 say a super nice car I would price it at $9,001 and I was like that's not a super

5:29 nice car that's no your cars like double

5:33 that 550 to 600 oh Lord just off okay

5:38 okay we're going to we're going to change it to 600 we just going keep jumping in

5:43 hundreds and then we can dial it back a little bit we're getting there boys we're now at 600 thank you guys for

5:47 sticking with us this is uh this has been fun this has been good it's been an

5:52 experience the cool part was that when I had to do the sponsor spots the image

5:57 was up so it doesn't even matter if the audio was

6:00 say just do the whole thing like this and then we're Flawless because except

6:05 if I like laugh and do that that's true and you'd know it's fun watching a delay

6:10 it is fun watching the delay I did that while we were spinning in our chairs you guys can't see that I'm sorry it's it's

6:14 pretty fun it's too much pull it back is that right Justin too

6:20 much we're gonna we're gonna wait for some input from Justin but I'm thinking

6:25 580 might be where we need to go way too much less than

6:32 500 550 550 550 you're slightly ahead

6:36 now 550 going crazy okay we're getting

6:39 it narrowed in all right we will get there cool by 6 we will by by six o'

6:45 yeah we're only half an hour late because of misplaced equipment and then

6:48 we're going to be an hour late after that because of equipment not working

6:52 well so there we go I want to run away so topics that we

6:59 have um Netflix is going to be dropping thousands of titles um unified weapons

7:05 Master they're going to have a Hightech gladiatorial combat you can't really see

7:08 what I'm saying right now I feel like that dude from Tool Time yes who's

7:13 standing behind the fence KS over the fence think have to

7:18 go 75 or SC when I was listening to it

7:22 it six so over try 650 700 maybe yeah

7:28 that's a lot of delay dude of those milliseconds you guys yeah pretty off

7:33 when you first started okay go check it again um we also have the introduction

7:38 of gddr5x um apparently gddr5x Wan although

7:45 I'm pretty sure that was just me typing that in properly um then after that we

7:49 have new federal requirements on cell phone surveillance so that should be

7:52 pretty cool I have to be very animated with my eyes because you can't see my

7:56 mouth no okay moving moving forward I

8:00 need to I need to move down to one of my topics so give me a second here I just

8:04 need to keep talking like this because then you can't really feel the delay actually I should show Justin the delay

8:09 that would probably help him try to figure that out so I'm actually go

8:13 through my first topic we're just going to try to live troubleshoot this with

8:16 Justin in the other room while we go so yes Netflix is dropping thousands of

8:20 titles apparently they're not renewing their deal with distributor epics so

8:24 basically how Netflix gets all their titles is they have to have a deal with

8:27 the distributor of these videos who would also distribute them to different

8:31 like uh cable companies and whatnot so that you could do like video on demand

8:35 um Netflix's deal with epics was reportedly worth about a billion dollars

8:39 that's pretty obscene um was reportedly worth about a

8:43 billion dollars uh it will run until the end of September 2015 so yeah you don't

8:49 have much time at all if you want to watch some of these movies and stuff uh

8:53 Chief content officer Ted Sandos hopefully I'm saying that correctly said

8:57 while many of these movies are popular they're also widely available on cable

9:01 and other subscription platforms at the same time they are as Netflix and

9:05 subject to the same drawn out licensing

9:12 periods add 30000 you're at 700 it's like a 50%

9:18 increase 650 so as we're talking about Netflix

9:22 they're trying to move to more of their own original content which is kind of

9:26 super hard to blame them because the original content is doing extremely well

9:29 really really well I loved House of Cards House of Cards was awesome

9:32 Daredevil was really cool have you watched Daredevil I haven't watched the entirety I think I've watched about 34s

9:36 yeah yeah there's a few like I I felt there's a couple actors in Daredevil

9:40 which weren't like super amazing but the show overall was actually really good

9:44 yeah um but yeah they're going to be moving towards a more their content

9:49 focused platform which isn't the reason why I got Netflix but might make me keep

9:56 Netflix so I don't know I know very little about Hulu but Hulu is picking up

10:01 the deal that Netflix is going to be leaving behind so they're trying to kind of push their way into that that void of

10:06 you're saying the reason why you got Netflix maybe that'll pull more people towards Hulu I know Hulu is not quite as

10:11 successful as Netflix um keep keep but yeah they're

10:15 going to be picking up all those shows that you're going to be losing from

10:18 Netflix so if you really want those shows if that's a problem for you Hulu

10:21 could be an answer um haven't heard too many great things about Hulu to be

10:25 completely honest but Netflix is definitely the kind of kingpins but

10:28 again they have so many of their own original shows and they're going to keep it Rolling Orange is the New Black

10:32 wasn't a good show for me but it was extremely highly rated uh people really

10:36 like that show I liked season one I wasn't super into the season two or

10:40 three season two I was like all right they're bridging into something all

10:43 right cool and then season three I was like yeah kind of fall House of Cards c

10:48 yeah that's true season one and two were just Gang Busters and three kind of fell

10:52 off a little but uh anyways that's Netflix for you I I kind of expect if

10:57 they keep doing this there's going to be more rampant piracy again uh cuz for a

11:02 long time there it was like how is everyone watching whatever show download

11:06 on Pirate Bay and now it's kind of the same deal obviously but also with a huge

11:11 amount of it gone to Netflix and I think yeah I think that might stop because yes

11:17 Netflix is doing a huge amount of original series but the people that just

11:20 kind of watch Netflix all the time are going to run out of original series

11:23 stuff really fast and they're probably hanging around for that mass expanse of

11:27 other stuff

11:31 1200 okay it could be like

11:38 time also you anything that Ash

11:42 sing no it's a game right okay yeah yeah okay

11:50 tax was awesome so chat chat if it's wrong it's at 1200 now so you guys might

11:56 suck it is at 1200 now yeah so we'll see

11:59 how that works sorry guys the cancer was spreading through chat 1200 1200 yes

12:03 well we'll we'll see if they're right someone might have been trying to time it or something I can clap for

12:09 everybody there's your clap I tried to like line it up so you could see my

12:13 hands well and stuff anyways uh we will

12:17 keep moving on we'll try to do all the main topics

12:21 so unified weapons Masters high-tech gladiatorial combat yeah so this is

12:26 pretty much probably as sick as it sounds if I can find the topic contrl F

12:31 glad third page top of the third found it contrl f is my hero looks really cool

12:37 the suits are designed uh really well I

12:40 guess you could say from the video I watched they look great uh fighting and

12:44 basically what the idea is you can do melee combat with different types of

12:47 weapons the suits will protect you and the biggest part of the suits is

12:50 actually they give you a reading of what the blow would be and basically gives

12:54 you health points and you would lose Health points uh by taking strikes in

12:58 different areas is but there is such things as you know a one hit kill like

13:01 something to the throat or something like that but maybe if you just kick the

13:05 guy in the side he'll take a you know x amount of damage um it looks really

13:09 interesting kind of combining the oldest form of fighting with the newest

13:14 technology um a really interesting blend they've got going it's actually pretty

13:17 freaking cool what I liked at the beginning of this video was just them

13:20 showing what's up down

13:25 1700 is the number you should be at I thought I was at 2

13:29 okay we did 1200 I thought 1 1200 mind

13:36 1700 that's a lot of

13:40 milliseconds okay all

13:43 right uh anyways you guys just saw that again probably hopefully so what's

13:49 really cool is they're they're fighting those are probably foam because that

13:53 makes sense but they're they're fighting and you can just record the data

13:56 afterwards if you have someone sitting on the sidelines I'm sure they could tell you when things happen so if you

14:00 get a throat shot like you were talking about he could end the match he could do whatever you want um really cool

14:06 apparently when are they starting their first uh actual like matches I think

14:10 they were trying for the end I tried to find the dock here I think they were trying for the end of this year probably

14:15 beginning of next year I think is what they're saying first live combat event in 2016 okay there do so that's pretty

14:21 cool that'll be exciting to watch I kind of H

14:24 hope I don't know they're probably foam weapons but I kind of hope that they

14:28 don't they said that they're going to be real weapons like the suits are made to

14:32 protect you um and you can see at one point if you watch the whole video the

14:35 guy is completely losing like he's losing his health points are going down

14:38 I think he's got 30% the other guy's at 100 30% guy wins he gets a strike

14:42 through to the throat and they pause it and you can see the sword hit and bend

14:46 and flex with the pressure so it might not be foam and might not be steel but

14:50 it could be something well it could be that fencing yeah it could just be

14:54 really thin kind of but I think their goal is to really really get physical

14:58 with it that you see guys hitting pretty hard and uh the armor is you know

15:02 supposed to protect you kind of deal so really interesting stuff um I know

15:05 they've been trying to work on this for a while and it could be a lot of fun I think the big thing right out of the

15:09 gate would be the price I think it'd be extremely limited just due to the insane

15:13 cost well if if they're doing a live combat event it sounds kind of like

15:17 they're probably going to plan it more around UFC style stuff oh yeah so not

15:21 like a laser tag at your local thing but more like non named Fighters going into

15:26 gladiatorial style combat so yeah it'll proba be expensive but I'm sure they'll

15:30 probably be the only ones actually using the full body suits apparently they use

15:34 a combination of I'm going to say this wrong but a combination of pis eletric

15:38 shock and vibration sensors and accelerometers to measure uh not only

15:42 where the hit lands but the severity as well so so if I strike and I just kind

15:47 of Nick his ARM barely that's probably not going to take off that many hit

15:51 points but if I strike and I hit the same part but then kind of dig in when I

15:55 do so it might do a lot more in terms of damage I'm not entirely sure but throw

16:00 everything they're throwing elbows and kicks and they're tripping each other

16:04 and yeah they're it's uh it's that's

16:07 super cool apparently the data collected by the suit will be beamed wirelessly to

16:11 a special ringside computer system like I was mentioning earlier which will keep

16:15 the score so that's essentially probably going to be health health points oh yeah

16:19 they show the little bars it's very video gamees uh in that video check that

16:23 out jump back so I I linked in the chat

16:27 the the video so that you watch but I'm going to jump back here right now so you

16:31 can actually see the health on the bottom so that guy just hit 0% and lost

16:35 um I'll jump back a little bit more so you can see that again at a different

16:39 point they also say what these guys are trained and these guys um some of them

16:42 are ninjitsu some guys are doing karate but all sorts of different martial art

16:46 backgrounds for these guys um but yeah

16:49 it looks it looks pretty cool they have some really great engagements yeah he

16:53 got the ninja brilley see nice kick there right to the midsection actually

16:57 did a good amount you can see their BPM

17:00 uh you can see what kgf I'm not entirely

17:03 sure what that is but um probably like

17:06 armor or health or something I'm not sure but it's cool how much data they

17:09 have on these guys pretty sick pretty sick what's up

17:12 Justin it's still app I am yes he's

17:18 definitely hitting apply I can vouch for it yeah I was I was worried about that

17:22 actually I am I am hitting apply it's on 1700 definitely applied try try 2000

17:29 it's it's 2 it's still off but at this point like I'm not even I think I'm

17:34 going crazy because I'm not even sure like what we're doing is actually making

17:37 a difference yeah okay it's now on 2K 2K

17:41 2K like uh 2K Games did anyone get that reference can we sell it for another $50

17:45 now maybe probably maybe I think they came out I could be wrong with this but

17:49 they came out with an NBA game it was like $70 on Steam really yeah 2K NBA was

17:54 70 I'm excited to play Mad Max speaking of excited to play video games and

17:58 possibly Mad Max I'm going to do a Shameless plug here because I think it's

18:02 okay because it's for charity tomorrow Saturday not entirely sure when I'm

18:06 going to start maybe before noon is the time I'm giving right now I'm going to

18:10 be starting a 24-hour charity stream for extra life I've been tweeting that out a

18:14 little bit over the last bit um so yeah come by hang out maybe donate maybe

18:19 don't just tell your friends do something I'm going to be playing games for a super long time and hopefully

18:23 we'll make money for extra life I did a charity stream a bit over a year ago I

18:29 think and my memor is failing me and my Twitter didn't go back far enough but I

18:34 think we made about 3200 so the goal

18:37 this year is 5K which is insane we might not get it but I think it would be

18:42 pretty cool it was extremely successful last time it was yeah three 3K

18:49 holy yeah okay general settings audio

18:54 should just set to like 10,000 and see if it's actually making a difference

18:57 like bad idea okay there we go y

19:04 3,000 sorry it's okay we'll see what

19:07 happens I guess yeah I guess we will see

19:10 okay moving on that was actually pretty freaking cool moving on new federal

19:14 requirements on cell phone surveillance so federal law enforcement have

19:18 routinely been required to obtain a search warrant before using secretive

19:22 and intrusive cell phone tracking Technologies um but and something like

19:27 the stingray which is a suitcase Siz device sweeps up basic cell phone data

19:32 from a neighborhood which can trick phones to connecting to it so basically

19:35 even if you're not making calls or texting people or whatever your phone is

19:38 always connecting to things so if the stingray can make your phone connect to

19:42 it they can find your phone which is probably in your pocket so they can find

19:46 you um now I didn't have a ton of time

19:49 to actually read this because I was busy with all the things like finding capture

19:54 cards I have read stuff about the stringray previously um to today they've

19:58 been using a lot in the states with the whole different Ferguson issues and

20:01 there's a lot of things going on uh in the states with kind of police versus

20:05 citizens and there's a lot of tension there um and apparently the stingray has

20:08 been used quite a bit uh in all sorts of place they can rip your calls they can

20:13 take your texts all these kind of things I've been reading uh from different news

20:16 outlets so there definitely needs to be something uh to manage this and I think

20:21 this is at least a great first step because it does appear um especially on

20:25 kind of some of the alternative news outlets that talk about these different protests that they're using these things

20:29 extremely widespread there's no control over it um they're just popping them up

20:33 whenever and however they wish to um so any control would be fantastic as

20:38 privacy is a bigger and bigger issue with our wireless yes Tech these days

20:42 and basically what's happening is the new policy requires a warrant in most

20:45 cases except for immediate security so uh immediate threats sorry so basically

20:50 immediate emergencies there we go I can talk like National Security threats

20:55 although I don't think that's properly defined um um authorities will need to

20:59 delete data that's been collected once they have the info that they need and

21:03 the American civil liberties Union has said that the policy is a good first

21:06 step um called on the justice department to close remaining loopholes such as one

21:11 allowing for warrantless surveillance under undefined exceptional

21:16 circumstances so it's kind of what I was mentioning earlier terminology yeah yeah

21:21 exceptional circumstances what does that mean to me nothing not having Jam to go

21:27 on my peanut butter and jam sandwich can sometimes be an exceptional circumstance

21:30 I can be pretty distraught about that because just having the peanut butter

21:35 makes it so that your mouth just gets all n yep you need the jam to smooth

21:39 things out exactly so that's not a good thing and it might be helpful if I could

21:45 use a surveillance device to find a store where I could buy the jam yeah

21:50 exactly I think that would be okay um anyways or Amazon's 1 hour delivery like

21:56 you could just one hour deliver ridiculous this Jam to yourself I'm

21:59 going to check how the audio delay is doing right now

22:05 uh 100,000 from BR gamer yeah he might

22:08 be on to something yeah so apparently not good someone just yelled

22:14 audio do another one of those see if it helps Anything Audio is

22:19 still ahead audio is

22:26 ahead was there any words on

22:37 that you CH the

22:40 delay it's not happening I am clicking apply like it's

22:44 it's maybe restart

22:49 that oh God God don't start oh God I see

22:56 nothing oh God I never see things not supposed to see oh

23:02 God do you want to go try again check it now Justin go go try that uh uh just

23:09 just go uh uh anyways moving on to more

23:15 topics I can feel my face getting redder

23:19 mine is I'm pretty sure you can see mine is redder oh my goodness that was bad so

23:23 to explain what just happened I was trying to be quick and try to keep

23:26 talking to you guys and what did was I was adding audio delay to my system

23:30 speakers it's perfect instead of instead

23:34 of adding audio delay to the microphone oh my God so what I was hearing was

23:38 being audio delayed by 3,000 milliseconds and what I was saying was

23:44 being audio delayed by nothing so now what I'm saying is being audio delayed

23:49 by 550 milliseconds and is apparently

23:52 perfect so sweet my face is definitely

23:55 full of blood right now and and I feel very embarrassed and I kind of want to

24:01 run away but I'm going to keep doing the W show because I love you guys and I

24:06 want it to go well oh man I quit my bad

24:11 let's just change it by 3,000 let's just you know that's like 3 seconds I think

24:15 why is it doing

24:18 anything okay wow yeah my like cheeks

24:21 hurt anyways moving on uh introducing

24:26 gddr5x yes higher density and faster

24:29 data rates so basically uh up until now

24:32 4 Gigabyte modules were the highest density available for

24:35 gddr5 um now they can make 8 Gigabyte

24:39 dense modules which is actually pretty badass cuz that's doubling the capacity

24:43 which is actually fairly intense Micron hinted that the uh that 8 gabit per

24:49 second gdr 5 modules are in production so that's uh 1 gbit per second faster

24:53 than the previous highest which was seven that being said people were over

24:57 clocking and stuff but this means you could overclock even more even more yeah

25:01 exactly that's good um they see 8 GB per

25:05 second the absolute Peak for the gddr5 kind of platform in its current form but

25:10 that's not super surprising because I think a lot of people are expecting the

25:14 future to be AMD's angle which is the stacking of stuff so this is probably

25:20 good if say NVIDIA isn't going to move to hbm hybrid uh hybrid HB hybrid module

25:28 something I don't know whatever the the stacking memory from AMD if they're not

25:32 going to do go that route because usually the companies don't really like

25:35 copying each other this will give them some more time to figure something out

25:38 but I do expect everything is going to be stacking like crazy stacks on stacks

25:42 on stacks on your graphic card Stacks soon enough so this is cool this is good

25:48 uh personally I think stacking is still going to kind of be high performance

25:53 memory what high bandwidth there we go

25:56 they also mentioned that the actual could be smaller while maining this

26:00 power which is a big deal because in a lot of the smaller builds we're seeing

26:03 these days the graphics card is the huge piece that's kind of somewhat of a

26:08 problem right yeah and like people have been addressing that lately and that's been pretty cool because back in what

26:13 was it 600 series uh or 700 series I

26:18 don't remember what card it was but lonus and I made so many jokes because

26:21 of the the penis extension of the card which was basically the PCB ended and

26:26 then they just put on like an extra plastic shroud to make it longer cuz

26:29 they were like well short cards look stupid and dumb not true anymore a lot

26:34 of people are going for short cards cuz they're going for little ITX systems um

26:38 you only sometimes need two sticks of RAM because the high capacity RAM can

26:41 get you a ton of memory get huge capacity RAM sticks you can get a badass

26:46 graphics card which is nice and short and you can make this little tiny

26:50 awesome system of epicness you're not taking any big losses going with the

26:54 tiny little builds as you would have in the past yes you know you're getting a

26:58 lot of the same things if not better yeah in a in a smaller and especially

27:02 for guys like us a more landable case yeah no that's a huge thing I saw a

27:06 bunch of we were just at this is my brother for the people that didn't get that earlier in the Stream we were just

27:11 at the yes broch show Welcome to the Bro show um we were just at the by bring

27:16 your own computer L at PAX Prime 2015 Y

27:20 and there was yeah there's a bunch of little tiny systems one of my favorite

27:23 things about lands is you get the combination of like the person who made

27:26 a computer into a Team Fortress 2 turret which was moving that awesome um you get

27:31 the the guy who made a computer into a suitcase that had a monitor in it and

27:35 then you have like the computer that probably got its case from like

27:41 1998 and has had like random hand me-

27:45 down part upgrades ever since then and he's just still landing and he's fine

27:50 and he's judging along you you've got all the different variances and I think

27:54 that's pretty cool but this will allow people to do cool little tiny builds and

27:58 that's awesome well this will help allow people to do that yes absolutely

28:02 definitely not the only component and AMD is doing their own stuff as well so

28:05 I can't I can't take them down a notch this is this is just a good thing it

28:09 also helps with SLI or Crossfire um you

28:12 know because your RAM is definitely Limited in that situation so yeah because it doesn't it doesn't it's not

28:16 additive yeah which is cool so you can get a bunch more memory and then two

28:20 cars that are the same and then you have a bunch more memory and everyone wants

28:23 more screens these days you know it'll help you those guys who want triple screens I'm not there yet still rocking

28:29 to but uh I'm trying to get more trying to get more I have two at home and I

28:32 have three at work and I want like five at work and I want like maybe more than

28:37 five at home who's got the overhead display um Barnacles Barn yes bar I want

28:43 one of those two not nearly as big as his his his like all that's all TVs and

28:47 they're giant I don't necessarily want that I want a monitor on a tilt down

28:52 though and I want like small auxiliary monitors for Server monitoring and stuff

28:56 I want to be able to like play and mine up here and like play Hearthstone here

28:59 and World of Tanks here and monitor the Forum here and monitor a server up there

29:03 and just all the things I want to feel like I'm in like people say like oh

29:08 Reddit Battle Stations or whatever I want to legitimately be able to have a

29:11 battle station nice I want to have like my racing wheel set up and my joystick

29:15 and throttle set up and like a bajillion and a half monitors and keyboard and

29:20 mouse and a controller and just be like I can do everything that's that's what I

29:26 want anyways to be racing have voice controls forar and voice controls for

29:31 Eve yeah just keep it going at the same

29:34 time your battlecry on enemy card 4

29:38 thank you also mine that rock and uh and

29:42 I need to drive a tank although I probably can't do that by voice anyways

29:46 um let me find another topic Wikipedia

29:49 editors turn to Blackmail this

29:53 is kind of horrible because you know what I actually really like like

29:57 Wikipedia Wikipedia is super badass and has if you've gone to school in the last

30:01 decade you like Wikipedia Wikipedia has gotten so many people through their

30:05 degrees so a lot of people owe like their entire degree to Wikipedia which

30:09 is pretty cool but editors at Wikipedia have allegedly started contacting small

30:14 businesses and lesser-known celebrities telling them that they need to pay up or

30:18 have their entries edited to Oblivion Oblivion that's just that's Petty and

30:24 that's garbage um as for hundreds of pounds so this was uh posted probably

30:30 not on a North American website it's fudzilla decom so I don't know but

30:34 hundreds of pounds as in monies um I'm going to post this in the twitch chat so

30:38 you guys can see what we're talking

30:45 about and then I'm going to switch to my screen there we go I make the computer

30:49 noises so that you don't have to assume that they're there the stream PC is not

30:53 doing things there we go hooray uh um yeah so

30:59 apparently this guy got edited to God

31:03 which is not a thing anyways long article I need to get back to my sheet

31:07 so we're not actually going to look at that H tricked um they offered their

31:14 powers as editors to keep the page up if the fee is met so basically uh if you

31:19 want your Wikipedia page up sometimes if

31:22 if if what you're trying to talk about isn't like worth talking about if you're

31:28 like my name is Fred and I'm in grade

31:31 four and I really like apples I don't think you really get a Wikipedia page um

31:36 so healthy choice Fred Yes actually apples good good move apple a day keeps

31:41 something away I don't remember dentist doctor I don't know either way um so

31:46 basically I think they're they're claiming that they can help you keep it up alleged offenders will contact the

31:51 person or business on behalf of Wikipedia uh soon after their page is

31:55 created Wikipedia has started stated that this is a coordinated Group

32:00 which is not better no um also they have

32:04 since purged 381 sock puppet accounts

32:07 and 210 articles created by them I'm not entirely sure what sock puppet means um

32:14 but judging by sock puet assuming it's a

32:17 um an account that those guys will use to screw around with things that don't

32:21 look like that throwaway account yeah uh Wikipedia Foundation blog post stated uh

32:27 neutrality is key to ensuring Wikipedia's quality although it does not

32:31 happen often undisclosed paid advocacy

32:34 editing may represent a serious conflict of interest it it would and could

32:39 compromise the quality of content on Wikipedia it it would yeah absolutely

32:42 and it probably has at this point so hopefully they they deal with that

32:46 because Wikipedia is awesome and I wouldn't that I wouldn't want that to become an actual problem in the future

32:53 um evj will soon be entering the Enthusiast gaming notebook Market this

32:57 is not that surprising uh every every kind of once every few years evj will be

33:04 like here's another product line Y and they seem to do pretty well in all of

33:08 them so that's pretty cool notebook will be capable of heavy overclocking so

33:12 that's interesting we'll see notebooks traditionally not usually that great

33:17 some of them have been pretty good actually I know if you guys that have gotten some pretty impressive overclocks

33:22 on notebooks and had them not throttle so that's interesting but we we'll see

33:26 if they shapable of heavy overclocking we will see featuring the new Skylake

33:30 mobile mobile mobile mobile CPU uh 17-in

33:34 thin gaming notebook with very high-end

33:37 Hardware they said Skylake so probably really high-end mobile cards as well I

33:42 would assume plan to launch late 2015 or early 2016 100% evj design from the

33:47 ground up which is also not surprising uh speculated that the ker mobile skew

33:52 will be included so kseries um processors but that has not yet been

33:57 confirmed although if they're saying like this is going to be overclockable heavy overclocking very high-end

34:03 Hardware it's probably going to have that K yeah if it does use a K series

34:08 chip it will feature four cores eight total threads stock clock of 3.2 GHz

34:13 with a 3.6 GHz turbo and 45 wat TDP

34:17 those numbers are just insane if you got into computers when I did or earlier

34:21 yeah like that's just absurd all of those things the amount of threads the

34:25 amount of cores the speed the TDP

34:28 everything is just nuts uh the thickness of the notebook is not expected to be an

34:33 issue as Skylake has a very good power performance envelope and has increased

34:38 power from overclocking uh is minimal compared to previous generation gpus uh

34:43 CPUs sorry that's true but if you're

34:46 going with the uh heavy overclocking and

34:50 very high-end Hardware thing yes so far we're just talking about the CPU I'm

34:54 interested in the GPU yeah and heavy amounts of overclocking I'm going to

34:58 want if that's what I'm buying this laptop for I'm probably going to want a

35:02 fairly excessive amount of cooling um so

35:05 if they're like they seem like very conflicting absolutely it's going to

35:10 have the most badass Hardware it's going to be super fast you're going to be able

35:13 to overol the crap out of it and it's going to be thin like that's that's

35:16 awesome if you can get all those things to be true but yeah yeah seems like

35:20 they're claiming quite a bit they don't have a long time to actually come out with it because if they're saying end of

35:24 2015 you know September's going to fly by those people you know summer's over

35:28 school starting September always disappears at least for me it does and

35:31 then you know we're into October already the end of the year is going to be here so this this is around the corner as far

35:35 as I'm concerned yeah um so they're going to have to have this stuff figured out personally I'm kind of hedging on

35:40 the fact that they might be claiming too much but hopefully not hopefully not

35:44 this was the first year I actually took a laptop to byoc I had my own monitor

35:49 but uh being able to have if you're able to have a gaming laptop that you can

35:53 bring around for lands and things like that it's it's really nice it's pretty

35:57 nice slides into your backpack Mana had an easy time this year one of the cool

36:00 things about that too is you don't have to worry about people stealing your stuff because you just drop it into your

36:04 laptop and take off at the end which is nice um they did kind of save their

36:08 butts a little bit and say or early 2016 yeah so if they don't make it by that

36:12 late 2015 line they they can still kind of pour over which is nice you would

36:16 assume they would try to hit it for Christmas but uh I'm wondering if they're just going you know we might not

36:21 make it kind of deal yeah yeah I think that's the goal though you're probably

36:24 right uh more laptop talk ASUS refreshes Rog laptops with

36:29 g752 I used a g751 at that land so

36:33 here's the two yeah um and liquid cooled

36:36 gx700 Series yeah this is interesting

36:40 yes so I'm going to try to get the topic up on here the gx700 being teased as

36:45 well um that's the liquid cooled one let

36:48 me see if I can get the topic up here sorry one second so this is from Anan

36:52 I'm going to post this in the chat um my laptop is not super happy

36:58 about things right now very interesting attachment that they're going to have

37:01 for this I don't fully understand how it works yet I'm not sure if they've released enough information to fully

37:05 understand how it works right but it does look like I could be wrong on this

37:09 but it appears like there's a closed loop water cooling system built in but

37:12 then you can attach this huge unit that just kind of chunks into the back of it

37:16 which would essentially extend that water cooling um because if it is a

37:20 water cooling attachment without that how does it cool unless there is already an established closed loop it could be

37:25 like okay disclosure I was busy filming

37:28 a super funny stuff before the show but what this could be is very similar to

37:33 the like uh what was that card ASUS I

37:37 don't remember the name Poseidon uh I'm having trouble with the

37:40 name right now twitch chat will correct me but the the ASUS Poseidon where it's

37:45 an aircooled graphics card that looks like

37:49 it yeah it's an aircooled graphics card but it has fittings and this could be

37:53 just basically quick disconnect fittings on this guy so it's air cooled and then

37:57 you can click in and turn it into a water cooled system that could be what

38:00 it is again full disclosure I haven't uh

38:03 I haven't read it that could be yeah it it's basically got to be either or

38:07 because uh it's got now I don't know a lot about this besid in card how well

38:11 does it work I always I'm always scared when a tool says you know I can do two

38:16 things these are the two things that I do because generally a tool that will do one of those things does it better than

38:22 uh the tool that can do two things so I'm not 100% sure but it it's a really

38:25 interesting idea we're talking about overclocking lands and all that kind of stuff usually what I find like with the

38:31 Poseidon I actually not that long ago did a review of a Zotac twoin one

38:35 cooling style card um I I think that

38:38 might actually be in the background here one of them yeah the the the Arctic

38:43 something you can see it I I'll show with my mouse uh this one wait no that's

38:49 not what you're seeing this one right there that has two little water cooling

38:53 uh fittings right there uh usually what I find is that the air cooling is okay

38:59 right even if it has like pretty like that one had pretty Beast air cooling built into it but because of like the

39:04 water block and stuff and needing to transfer through it usually ends up

39:07 being okay instead of great as it's

39:10 actually made to be but then you have water cooling options and then that water cooling option is usually sick so

39:14 with this laptop you could go to your work do whatever you need to do and

39:20 it'll probably be fine cuz you won't maybe push it as hard and then you could

39:24 dock it at home into water cooling game and that's actually a pretty cool use

39:28 case I think that makes sense and just the fact that it's quick connects uh can

39:31 be really good for people who don't want to spend if you've ever completely water

39:36 cooled your computer it takes time and effort and a bit of Maintenance you know

39:39 that could be a really simple idea for someone who wants to just get in get out and not spend a whole lot of time with

39:43 it yeah um so again just more options I

39:46 think you know the laptop The Notebook Market is just getting bigger and bigger

39:50 um just with how much more powerful uh they're able to build them it's really

39:54 cool I was kind of anti-top for a while there to be completely honest just

39:57 desktops all the way and I still kind of am but they're really shortening that

40:00 Gap I'm still like to be fair I'm

40:04 talking about cool cool gaming laptops gaming laptops are interesting I

40:09 still like the idea of a beast desktop

40:13 at home and then a like more businessyoutube

40:25 very kind of weird sometimes but yeah yeah got it my bad that makes sense

40:31 sorry for banging on the desk everyone um so yeah it's interesting but gaming

40:36 laptops seem to be getting better lately so my my opinion might change eventually

40:39 we'll see I'm not rigid on that next up Moto 360 2015 Edition um there was a

40:46 Hands-On from I believe giz Moto so let

40:50 me see if I can open this up Android pit

40:54 so I'm going to post that in the twitch chat as well give me one quick second I

40:58 closed it it's personally my and I'm not a big Smartwatch guy um it's personally

41:03 my favorite looking Smartwatch cool I love the fact that it's round yeah right

41:07 that's not a new you know that was on their on their last watch but the fact that it's round it looks like a watch

41:12 because to me a watch is still a style point like I understand they're building

41:17 in all this technology you can look at your text message you can okay Google

41:20 there's different things that you can do uh with the Apple watch as well but to

41:24 me it's still a style piece mhm um and it's really it has to contribute to your

41:29 outfit to your look it's got to look right in the mirror um or it's not going

41:32 to work that's just my personal opinion I think the 360 does a does the best job

41:36 of it currently yeah so the basic model

41:39 starts at $300 so like $8,000 Canadian dollars and

41:45 yeah yeah and the the more expensive version which I don't know a ton about

41:48 at this moment is $450 so about $166,000 Canadian dollars

41:54 uh I'm kidding by the way the Canadian dollar just sucks right now so bad it's

41:57 it's pretty rough um it comes in two sizes 46 mm and 42 mm um the idea is

42:04 that motorol can Market the two different sizes to men or women women

42:09 not women they can Market it to wom uh well I think they actually have two

42:13 sizes for males like the small and the large and then they have a female

42:17 version which is the small with a different band ah cool so that's kind of

42:21 it sure um um although the bands I believe are interchangeable yeah

42:25 interchangeable um where was yeah right there you can see theable band oh yes just right there

42:32 that's the little mechanism that no one can see me pointing at but uh here I'll

42:36 use the mouse wait wrong Mouse right here yeah it's right there there you go

42:41 um the display so it has a uh like like

42:44 it said earlier the display comes in two different sizes 1.37 in and 1.56 in

42:49 they're both LCDs they have resolutions of 360x 325 and 360x 3 30 so not a huge

42:57 difference in the resolution actually um they move the hardware button from the

43:01 3:00 position to the 2:00 I like that oh it's way better it's also uh I was

43:05 reading that there was issues with people bending their wrist and it getting poked into there that's that's a

43:10 big problem most people wear their watches on their left hand you're going to have that but button on the right

43:14 hand side it's it's going to be an issue so it's it's smart that they move that

43:18 yes I do want to go to dinner tonight Alice Yang I'm hungry that would work

43:23 for me I'm a little hungry let me know which restaurant I'll third wheel like crazy that works cuz it's not a

43:30 date um I let's see here in terms of

43:33 actual text specs it has Snapdragon 400

43:38 processor running a frequency of 1.2 GHz 4 gigabytes of internal storage and 512

43:43 megabytes of RAM which is something I haven't said for a while because that's

43:46 in a very low very low amount of RAM uh we even like stopped iterating in that

43:51 amount now it's like per gig instead of per half gig but anyways um good old

43:56 days the 400 Mila battery um obviously that's a small amount but you know you

44:00 got to look at the draw not necessarily the capacity um but again that's the

44:04 scary thing with SmartWatches is the fact that uh they don't last a long time

44:07 I think I would want to jump to the 46 mm even just for the battery because the

44:11 the 42mm watch has a 300 mAh battery and

44:15 then the 46 mm watch has a 400 mAh battery large increase probably worth it

44:19 alone then the like slightly higher PPI

44:23 uh which is pretty actually lower PPI um but slightly higher resolution so the

44:27 PPI of the smaller one the 42 mm is 354

44:31 and that's at a resolution of 360x 325 and the PPI of the slightly larger one

44:36 the 46 mm one is 313 so it's lower but

44:40 it has a slightly higher resolution of 360 x 330 it's just a bigger screen yeah

44:45 um Android Wear as you all probably figured out automatically it has four

44:50 cores running at that uh 1.2 GHz and Bluetooth 4.0 so I'm sure Linus is is

44:56 going to end up reviewing this at some point so yeah that'd be awesome probably

44:59 stay tuned they get their hands on one of those um let me see here we could

45:04 jump into the Samsung launches the uh oh you got something on

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47:36 well actually maybe not that shortcut specifically but give me a

47:42 second so if you guys go to cags online.com k a ibags online.com you can

47:50 see my mom's website she made that it's on Squarespace and it's awesome and she

47:56 made the whole thing I helped her with like one random very small thing she

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48:40 to save 10% yay back to topics let's do some

48:47 Rapid Fire for a sec unless there was something you wanted to do there is but

48:51 we can do it after rapid fire all right mini news Google new logo how how much

48:55 has this tripped you out I I was wondering what you're going to say about

48:59 it because I don't really like it it doesn't really matter no no well like I

49:04 don't really like it but I also say that with not really caring

49:08 because why I don't you know what I mean I'm not a huge fan but again I don't I

49:13 don't care about any of it especially the large logo what I do care about is

49:18 the uh why can't I think of the name of it right now but the the small little

49:22 icon that goes on your tabs oh yeah

49:26 because it's just tripping me out cuz I'm not used to it now so I'm like

49:29 where's that Tab and I can't find it because the little icon is different

49:32 favicon I'm probably I might be pronouncing that incorrectly but the favicon image is just driving me nuts

49:37 other than that I don't care at all I use Google Maps constantly on my

49:42 phone at work and they changed a bunch of the icons so I get the same feeling

49:45 right yeah like you don't look right what is that looking for the thing that

49:49 I know so what you're seeing here is uh I believe a gift yeah of that that

49:54 little thing right there is what usually gets placed as the favicon and they just

49:57 kind of show the other things that the logo could be used as because it's morphing into their other logos it's a

50:02 cute little animation I like it yeah it works it works so yeah they changed the

50:07 logo they were recently acquired by themselves under a company called

50:11 alphabet things are changing none of it in my opinion is really all that

50:16 important they also mentioned that it might look better on smaller screens

50:20 since everything's trying to go multiplatform and because smaller screens and are becoming absolutely the

50:24 norm um so there's a hint that that might be kind of the the reason why

50:28 interesting yeah some of it was also because it uh more closely resembles the

50:31 logo of alphabet which is that parent company I just mentioned it's supposed

50:35 to look more modern and playful um I

50:38 don't know anyone who does kind of the playful look as well as Google does I

50:42 thought they were very modern and playful before already yeah but uh I

50:46 don't know what else what else can you say about a a small font change not not

50:49 much we'll get through this if you don't like it it'll be okay yeah I don't know

50:54 it's it's just it's it's really it's really not that big of a deal I saw a

50:59 few people very small amount of people freaking out but I think most people

51:02 kind of generally agree with us let's see what the twitch chat says let's do a

51:05 straw poll actually so give me a second to make this straw pole oh my screen

51:10 again this is I'm borrowing uh John our

51:14 our resident American's uh laptop for this so you can

51:18 see I'm going to move uh us out of that

51:21 corner you can see just how awesome this

51:25 desk to is I don't know if he made this or if he found this but either way it's

51:31 just great so I'm going to start a straw pull um while you guys hopefully talk

51:36 about that amazing background it's pretty epic P the Double Down The Double

51:42 Down is awesome I think John's laughing back there

51:48 now give me one second sorry guys so

51:51 type your question here what was it again um what do you

51:55 think you think of the new I'll just

52:00 show you guys what I'm doing Google logo

52:04 oh my God I hate it so much I spelled

52:09 much incorrectly but it kind of goes with how it works a wild Nick has

52:13 appeared hi Nick hi what's wrong Nick um

52:17 that topic that I was talking about

52:21 before okay I saw your giant full caps

52:24 note on that we're good thanks

52:29 bro oh okay I don't even know okay we'll

52:33 see uh turnip I'm not going to learn

52:36 what it's about right now yeah do that while I do this um oh my God I hate it

52:41 so much I don't care turnip I don't

52:44 really care much but it's

52:49 confusing sometimes cool do you have like an I like it

52:54 option

52:58 there we go okay cool just no positive answer um

53:03 we will do permissive and then that's it

53:06 so create poll give me a quick second my

53:09 prediction is turnup yeah you think turnup is going to

53:13 straight up win well it's pretty awesome when turnup straight up wins I have to

53:17 say I have occasionally voted for turnup every time but I've occasionally done

53:22 this literally all the time forever I

53:25 like it wow there's a lot of I like oh turnup turn oh jeez turn Up's kind of

53:30 running away with it all of a sudden I'm hoping I like it wins actually I kind of

53:34 want turnup to win because it makes lonus a little mad yeah so I kind of

53:38 vote for turnup that's always that's always entertaining sorry um I'm I'm

53:41 actually part of team number three I guess at this point uh which is I don't

53:46 really care but it's confusing sometimes yes my honest answer would be I don't I

53:50 don't dislike it so I would be down with saying that I like it it looks nice I

53:55 don't really care I just yeah I'm a part of number three I don't fully understand

54:00 the oh my God I hate it so much crowd but if someone's like resistant to

54:04 change and they use Google a lot I guess I get it it is the smallest it is it is

54:08 heavily losing at this point it is turnup is just wrecking just destroying

54:14 turn up 16% above the closest uh other

54:18 vote so that's that's pretty cool so our first real answer is I like it so that's

54:22 kind of cool I like it's winning um do you want to keep read that thing yes so

54:26 I'm going to actually jump down and do a rapid fire topic by myself and then hopefully you can help fill us in on

54:32 whatever that is that you're actually reading so the ASUS Matrix gtx980ti

54:37 Platinum is being shown off um I'll try

54:41 to get to the actual thread but the actual thread wasn't really linked so

54:45 it's going to take me a quick second it looks freaking sick I can tell you that

54:49 much but you might have a little bit of trouble having it match your motherboard

54:53 unless you have the exact motherboard that goes with it which if you're

54:56 spending that much money on it it's probably not that unlikely so it's

55:01 probably okay hopefully this press release actually has pictures this press

55:05 release does not have pictures I don't think so we're actually just going to

55:08 show off the line of tech tips topic which I will link you guys in a moment

55:12 here I say this every time I'm on the show but your forum is awesome uh when I

55:16 was looking through the documentation or the doc I should say before the show

55:20 there's a link to a lineus tech tips Forum post for every single topic we're

55:24 talking about you guys are awesome you contribute very well the tech news and reviews is like

55:31 one of the most insane Forum sections I've seen on any Forum ever they're so

55:35 on top of things because people are so aggressive about wanting to be the first

55:38 one and and people are so good at formatting it's a beautiful look yeah

55:42 it's like you make your form on Squarespace we're oh wow we don't whoa

55:46 but yeah but you um we're working on that actually for the next version of

55:50 The Forum which is in development right now uh Envision powerboard the or

55:54 envision power whatever is the software that we

55:59 use and they released their new version but we're going to be heavily modifying

56:03 it adding in a really cool new text editor thing that we're doing tons of

56:06 work on and a whole bunch of other stuff so it should be actually a really big

56:10 upgrade we're going to be ramping up classified so classified should be a lot

56:13 cooler there's going to be way more functionality we're going to be implementing a lot of that stuff that's

56:17 been in the thread forever that people are like can we do this and we're like

56:22 maybe in the next version so we've been working on a lot of that stuff hopefully

56:25 you guys like it but that's months out I probably shouldn't have even have teased

56:29 it so I'm just excited whatever anyways

56:33 well I know you put an absolute ton of work into the first version of The Forum

56:36 I remember going over to your place and you look like an absolute zombie and

56:40 there was a ton of work and I think that's when Mr Wizard was uh was helping

56:44 out as well and this time we've got a pretty big crew we've got cat on the

56:48 Forum is helping uh Colonel mortise is helping a lot Mr Wizard is helping again

56:54 I'm doing some stuff probably not as much as I should be um but yeah there's

56:58 a there's a big crew helping and then once we start testing it I'm going to be

57:01 using all the mods and probably a bunch of Linus Media Group employees to like test out the website find all the bugs

57:06 that we can try to fix what we can and then we'll go from there but anyways

57:10 jumping back to it um the 980 TI

57:14 platinum card you can see why I might have said it might be a little bit rough

57:18 to match with certain systems but then again if I scroll down you can see the

57:21 motherboard that goes with it and that thing it looks it very well it looks

57:26 sick so if you want to get both that'll look super badass and if you don't it

57:30 might be a little bit rough matching things but you'll be okay it'll be fine

57:35 could do a lus Media Group build with those parts oh my

57:38 God the Orange is slightly wrong I think but that's all a lot of that's glowing

57:43 area o maybe they'll talk to them it looks

57:47 pretty cool it looks pretty cool I like it figure it out I like it doing a l

57:50 Media Group builds like black and orange in general I don't even think we've done

57:54 that and that's a pretty good idea I don't think there's a whole lot of options unless you were customizing no

57:58 we'd probably have to yeah but that's fine once this Workshop makes more

58:01 original which is right here and you guys can't see it is done uh we might be

58:05 able to do you mean that beautifully organized area of perfection he lies deceit and lies

58:12 anyways jumping to the topic that I don't even know what it is we're going

58:15 to have to work through this together um because I've been reading it and it is a

58:18 whole lot of information um but it does look pretty interesting ashes of

58:23 Singularity demo was showing better performance in dx12 on AMD cards than

58:27 NVIDIA cards yes okay I haven't read about this enough but I've read about it

58:33 a little bit so this is a massive topic uh Nick has been working on the notes

58:37 for it like up there during the show I

58:41 read something about it like right before the show started I wish I knew

58:45 more about it um there's actually a really good Thread about it on

58:49 overclock.net technically they're a competitor to our Forum but I really

58:54 like those guys and I've got buddies that have been in the computer thing for a long time they're like man I really

58:59 want to join Li techit but I have like friends on overclock.net that I talk to

59:03 for like all the time for years and stuff I'm like you know what that's cool

59:07 just chill out there it's cool so we're not we're not enemies we're cool over

59:11 cl. cool so yes Ash has a

59:14 singularity um the oxide developer KAC

59:18 had a very lengthy response on the overclock.net Forum so that's what I

59:22 linked I believe yes that should bring you right to the right post so that's

59:26 actually from the developer he only has four posts but uh after seeing this post

59:32 it looks like he made them count I'll show you yeah definitely so yeah he he

59:36 went ham not technically wall of texts

59:40 because he pressed enter sometimes but it's it's a it's a lot of text um so

59:46 basically I think what happened was that

59:49 AMD cards did perform better on dx12 um yeah as Singularity demo was

59:54 showing better performance in dx12 on AMD cards and NVIDIA cards um if ashes

59:59 is biased then any unreal 4 game must be NVIDIA biased as well yeah interesting

60:05 using the nitrous engine yeah uh NVIDIA dx11 performance has

60:10 increased over the past few months dx12 overhead is still better for NVIDIA than

60:15 it was on dx11 and has not been fully

60:18 tweaked yet this is actually pretty nuts

60:21 people are are up in arms about this I

60:24 got a few messages right before the show but wasn't entirely sure what it was

60:27 about sorry that we're not fully up to dat on this topic it this is like live

60:31 news it literally came in as the show was going literally Nick ran down here

60:35 was like I'm done it's ready and it is

60:38 about a full page on here so good job Nick right now uh this this is a quote

60:44 let let me see if I can even see who it's from uh nope but probably the dude

60:49 that made that post so we're going to go with that right now I estimate about 20%

60:53 of our Graphics pip pip line occurs in compute shaders and we are projecting

60:58 that uh we're projecting this to be more than 50% on the next iteration of our

61:02 engine in fact it is even conceivable to build a rendering pipeline entirely in

61:07 compute shaders for example there are alternative rendering Primitives that's

61:13 exact or to triangles which are actually quite feasible in compute if someone

61:18 gave us a card with only with only compute pipeline I bet we could build an

61:22 engine around it and it would be plenty fast I'm not saying that the graphics

61:27 pipeline will disappear anytime soon or ever but it's by no means certain that

61:31 it is necessary it's quite possible that in 5 years time nitrous is uh rendering

61:36 pipeline is 100% implemented via compute

61:40 shaders interesting stuff for the graphics world yeah

61:47 definitely K said as far as I know Maxwell doesn't support async compute at

61:52 least not natively we disabled it at the request of NVIDIA as it was much slower

61:56 to try and use it than to not whether or not async compute is better or is not as

62:02 subjective but it definitely does buy some performance on AMD's Hardware

62:06 whether it is the right architectural decision for Maxwell or not is relevant

62:10 to its um scheduler hard to

62:15 say because the last little quote here from Rob H from AMD chimed in on the

62:19 matter uh oxide effectively summarized my thoughts on the matter NVIDIA claims

62:23 full support for dx12 but conveniently ignores that Maxwell is utterly

62:27 incapable of Performing asynchronous compute with heavy Reliance on slow

62:32 context switch without heavy Reliance on slow Contex yes without sorry yeah very

62:36 important he's not saying that is fully capable of it but that it will need

62:40 outside assistance uh so definitely a little bit

62:43 of drama going on so this is going to

62:46 be basically an absolute [ __ ] storm yeah

62:51 um I'm sure there's stuff blowing up around this um I'm going turn rip that

62:56 up a little bit um yeah I think I think

62:59 our audio is okay at this point maybe refresh the stream if you're having

63:03 problems although you wouldn't be able to hear that wrecked I'll type that in

63:07 chat

63:10 um yeah but I don't know I hope they figure their stuff out I like

63:16 um I like it when these companies have to kind of scrap for things it's good

63:21 absolutely but a quote that I've been saying a lot lately is um competition is

63:26 good if the competition is good yeah because I was I was talking to someone

63:31 about VR and they were bringing up a whole bunch of uh kind of auxiliary VR

63:36 companies because right now if you're looking at VR in terms of Hardware if

63:40 you're not looking at Oculus or valve they're more auxiliary companies outside

63:45 of that and some of them are very interesting and might kind of plant

63:51 their feet and be able to hold there some of them I think are just going to

63:54 fall away and one of my points was that I hope the ones that are going to fall

63:58 away because they suck Fall Away very quickly because competition is good like

64:03 I just said if the competition is good if your competition is terrible and

64:06 there's a whole bunch of it it's just going to muddy the space and someone's

64:11 going to try out one of those things and go like oh this is terrible therefore

64:14 this whole Space is terrible just brand yeah yeah so you kind of want things to

64:18 work and if if this is all true everything we just talked about and

64:22 they're claiming full support and doesn't have full support you need to

64:26 fix that yep absolutely because I want it to come down to this card has these

64:31 features and is this fast and therefore

64:35 I want it over this one and vice versa

64:38 instead of like this card says that it can do this thing and can't and

64:42 therefore I don't know what I want but I guess that one because it can do all the

64:46 things you have a somewhat related video which I watched today about graphics

64:50 cards saying what they're hitting what they're actually hitting oh the the GPU

64:53 boost in instigation um yeah that's

64:57 interesting that's that's not as bad I don't think because it's it ends up

65:01 actually running faster it's just weird and confusing it just it reminded me of

65:05 that video when you were mentioning that that's yeah yeah yeah yeah so check that

65:08 video out if you want basically when you buy a current NVIDIA graphics card it

65:14 will they'll have an advertised boost clock speed which is not what it will

65:18 boost to at all I've never seen it actually boost to that number on any

65:22 graphics card that I've tested in the current gen so yeah and the cars that we

65:27 were testing were like hitting thermal limits and stuff automatically so if I

65:31 had ones that weren't doing that automatically we'd probably even see more variants but anyways very

65:36 interesting I'm excited to see how this develops I'm sure this is not the last

65:40 we've heard about this um someone is going to want to step up and probably

65:45 angrily and we'll we'll learn more things

65:49 um yeah that's pretty much all I have to say about that is stay tuned and we'll

65:54 find out if that's true that sucks

65:57 hopefully they fix it if it's not true well then what the hell's going on I

66:01 don't know we will see um scrolling down a bunch give me a

66:06 second there's the um trying to find out

66:10 right now the new Google Car app oh what

66:14 Samsung launches car mode for Galaxy app yes I know nothing about this go for

66:18 gold I'll get this posted in the twitch chat there we go okay so um Samsung is

66:23 off off a car modee on its phones but it's being refined Leading The Way with

66:28 car mode is uh that it offers a standalone mode for those situations

66:31 where cars aren't compatible which in uh most case since only newer cars offer

66:36 offer it um it's it's able to be compatible for older cars now as as

66:41 you're looking that up I want to segue a little bit I think we're in a really

66:44 interesting place in the car market I'm a car Enthusiast myself a lot of people

66:47 at lgr um not including Tesla because

66:51 they're doing things right I think basically everyone else um and a lot of

66:55 the and you could say American car manufacturers but it's not true even the Imports um as well Imports you know the

67:01 Toyotas um Volkswagens of the world everyone's somewhat at a starting line I

67:06 feel like they've all been making cars for a very long time they've all done a

67:09 decent job at their own kind of Niche markets whatever they're uh trying to

67:13 hit with their different cars or trucks or whatever it may be but now vehicles

67:17 are becoming a tech item and I feel like a lot of the manufacturers have been

67:21 around forever they're all at the same starting line and this is something that's going to slightly differentiate

67:26 each other cuz I know it's uh it's Honda Toyota and Volkswagen I'm not surprised

67:30 at all that it's those three brands that are moving forward with this um there is

67:35 no car I think yours does a decent job but I don't think there's any car

67:39 besides the Tesla right now that has a great screen

67:42 touchscreen uh experience for the user I

67:45 think they're all kind of okay and we're

67:48 spending so much money on them um we're spending so much money on

67:53 them and they're just they're just lackluster they're just not what they

67:57 need to be hopefully this is a step in the right direction because I feel like

68:00 any car company that's really going to hit it out of the gate is going to do

68:03 extremely well because everyone else does a terrible job I'm a Ford fan their

68:07 My Touch terrible hate it got nothing good to say about it you know what I

68:11 mean like yours is pretty good but I feel like there's and yours is a 2009

68:15 let's add that in there as well you know what I mean in my the thing that bothers

68:18 me about mine being a 2009 is I'll sit in uh newer cars like I I was in a very

68:25 new truck yesterday driving a very new truck that another dude owns that I know

68:30 because I had to move a chair long story um and it's a very nice truck and the

68:35 dash the screen on the dash excessively similar to mine in terms of resolution

68:40 how it works all that kind of stuff like uh a Dodge Dodge see I even like the

68:45 Dodge ones I even think the Dodge ones do a pretty good job but they could be

68:49 so much better that's the thing like you look at tablets you look at computers

68:52 you look at laptops you you look at phones you look at all these different markets and they're moving so fast and

68:57 then Vehicles is just like well turn the

69:01 dial do the thing I don't know I've got

69:04 the I did the Nexus 7 install in my Dash which was kind of a pain but it looks

69:09 fantastic it's a 2-year-old tablet and the PPI is uncomparable to anything else

69:13 that's out there right now as far as buying your vehicle but what I'm trying

69:17 to say by it this is it's a really interesting article check it out I think Luke linked it no someone sorry someone

69:22 misunderstood what I was saying I'm not complaining about driving the Acura I'm

69:26 saying it's weird that my cars from 2009

69:29 were now going into fairly soon 2016 and

69:33 I'm not seeing huge differences it's awesome that my car has that that's

69:37 great I love that I'm not complaining about that at all what's crazy is that

69:42 if go look at a phone from 2009 and compared to it a phone that's going to

69:46 be coming out now and yes no not at all

69:50 completely different absolutely what sup Dennis

69:54 hi come say hi to the stream come on no get in front of the

69:59 camera dance is ready to go home I think you're leaving oh yeah it's after work

70:03 now say hi hello no not I just this is the

70:09 actual show I just wanted Dennis to say

70:14 hi you reading the chat Dennis Dennis hi

70:17 Dennis hype yeah Dennis hype they're happy to see

70:21 you bye okay by by Dennis so one of the

70:25 big things with this is that you can uh plug in your phone or it can connect

70:29 wirelessly um and then your apps and your phone will basically appear on the

70:32 screen so that is a step forward um they're kind of skirting around having

70:36 to do anything themselves I feel like they're kind of like oh we'll just kind

70:40 of Port your phone to this screen now because that's nice um but I really feel

70:46 you know I think Tesla's done an extremely good job they're going to be coming out with more models of cars um

70:50 and they'll probably be model three model three and they'll they're going to

70:54 be upgrading their screen I assume um all of you domestic car manufacturers

70:59 and you know I say domestic because you know the Toyotas you buy here are made

71:03 here so are they you know are they imported or they not debate for a different time um somebody please hit it

71:08 somebody do it well you know what I mean because no one's doing it well right now

71:12 I agree this is a decent decent step but I honestly like a big thing that I

71:16 really wanted to do when we started line of Media Group was uh car tech reviews

71:23 yep I don't know if I've talked to you about this before for a you talked about

71:26 uh I guess I shouldn't say maybe it's more in the business a certain manufacturer approached you you looked

71:31 into it and kind of said no thanks cuz there's nothing here uh and that that's

71:35 essentially the story is what I wanted to do was go driving around for a in a

71:39 car for a while and I don't know enough to talk to you guys about the engine and

71:44 like how it works and if it's more efficient than whatever and if like I

71:48 don't know enough about that I know a little bit about cars not enough to make

71:52 videos on that kind of stuff not the technical aspects of the moving

71:56 components like the engine but I might be able to do a proper review of the

72:01 tech that's inside the car mhm but I'd

72:04 make a video every year yeah and it would be like yep not much as changed

72:10 you can have a Wi-Fi hotspot but you could also just do that on your phone

72:14 yeah which I do so why would you buy

72:18 another Sim for your car yeah I don't know like there's there's some actually

72:23 really cool someone just said Mighty Car Mods I believe that's a YouTube channel

72:26 that I've seen and is awesome car mods are fantastic I modded the Nexus 7 into

72:30 my Dash it took me quite a while to get all the bugs out it runs great there's

72:34 some super cool stuff on YouTube in terms of cars but that's exactly why I

72:37 didn't want to do the same thing yeah I wanted to do something slightly

72:40 different cuz these guys are already awesome you're not looking into Mods

72:43 you're looking at what's coming out what's I I can't do that and like

72:47 there's there's certain guys I don't remember what channel it was maybe it was Mighty Car Mods they're from I think

72:51 Australia and they buy like a couple couple of the similar car and they'll

72:55 just like zombie them together like I did with computers back in the day and

72:59 make like a couple throwaway cars basically and make one good drivable car

73:04 out of it for like way cheaper than buying a new one and like I watched one

73:07 episode and it was actually super cool um soone saying chopped maybe that's it

73:14 um I don't know but honestly it was awesome I like I like watching car

73:18 videos anyways we'll we'll move on to uh more stuff but I don't know guys pick it

73:24 up move forward the tech and the Tesla is sick you guys can do

73:29 that like I love Tesla but it's not that hard no it's not that hard it's really

73:34 you could copy that or do even better honestly without that's what's so

73:38 frustrating about it you know and especially um you know I'll go after it

73:42 again because I've got an older F-150 the brand new F-150 came out the 2015

73:46 model they advertised all these different things I got caught up a little bit in the hype not like I was

73:50 going to buy one I was like oh man this is going to be so cool and I I was

73:53 really excited cuz they weren't saying anything about that center console

73:56 nobody's doing it right nobody's doing it right except for the Tesla get on the

74:00 level they are now Tech pieces you know you know your big advertising feature

74:04 that your truck can be a hot spot is not or your car can be a Hotpot is not

74:07 interesting that's not engaging to me you can go to any phone retailer up here

74:12 you can go to Rogers tell us wind any of them buy a little tiny capsule I saw one

74:15 that looked like a cute egg once you give it power it gives you a 3G network

74:20 this is old this is not new this is not interesting um and especially when

74:23 you're trying to Market to a younger generation that's into Tech into their

74:27 phones you know you've got you know the the Note 5 came out get something that

74:31 is somewhat comparable to that level or the new LG phones anything like that um

74:36 honestly and someone in the chat draw

74:40 joopis joopis joopis I don't know uh he

74:44 said you can't compare a to 209 but 2009 Acura with a modern pickup truck compare

74:49 it to a modern Acura and you'll see differences valid point except that I

74:53 have and there isn't major ones yeah um there's two screens I think but I just

74:58 don't care about the second one because it's honestly just easier to do with

75:01 physical buttons so like I don't know

75:04 man I I I did and there wasn't significant change that I would expect

75:09 from that many years definitely not like your comment about the phones yeah yeah

75:14 it it's it's not even similar at all to

75:17 the uh change that there has been in the phone market so absolutely all right I

75:21 think I beat this one up yeah um a little bit let's move on um

75:27 Microsoft quietly rewrites its activation rules for Windows 10 this is

75:31 from ZDNet I'm going to try to get you guys a link and I'll try to get it up on

75:35 the screen and I'll do all the fun things apparently uh the net result is

75:38 that clean installs will be much easier uh that totally caters to me I'm a clean

75:43 install guy I always have been um I'm still on 8.1 but uh I'm just kind of

75:48 waiting for a little bit then I will be going to the 10 of course and it'll be a

75:51 clean install that's what I want to do I I've never been a big fan of the upgrade

75:54 experience it also kind of forces me to clean my computer up yeah that's that's

75:58 one of the reasons why I kind of like it cuz honestly uh the upgrade experience

76:02 thing I kind of agree I didn't like it before Windows 10's upgrade experience

76:06 is actually really good though good um and like I tried to test out the beta

76:12 and my whole idea was like you know what I'll try it and if it doesn't work I'll

76:15 just reformat and it'll be fine and then I was like oh roll back I can just roll

76:19 back to my Windows 7 install this will break everything but let's try it so I

76:24 rolled it back and it was perfect really which was crazy I never had a single

76:28 problem and then I've upgraded again once Windows 10 came out off that same

76:32 install back up Windows 10 and it was fine again wow which was actually pretty

76:36 impressive um so yeah I don't know kind

76:39 of cool the biggest change um of all is that Windows 10's activation status is

76:44 now stored online which might be terrible for you or good for you

76:48 depending on who you are um after you successfully activate Windows 10 for the

76:51 first time the device will activate automatically in the future no

76:55 product key is required um yeah I don't know unwelcome change

77:01 for those trying to do a clean install of Windows 10 without understanding the new activation landscape is a good point

77:07 but I don't know I think people are going to be on the fence with this maybe let straw pull it again and then move on

77:12 so I'm going to start a new one straw PS are fantastic I really like straw PES we

77:17 could make our own but considering they made this like I I've had someone like

77:22 make a Linus media group pull thing and I was like you know what that's really

77:25 cool but we've been using these guys since forever we're probably like the

77:29 main people that use straw pole I don't know maybe maybe straw pool's way bigger

77:34 than I than I realized but I don't know I just kind I'm sure you give them a lot

77:37 of traffic um why can't I type I think I

77:41 need to make a new one there we

77:45 go um while we're doing that let's we got

77:50 one topic here I don't think we'll talk about too much but uh cable box rentals

77:54 a needless $19 billion industry insane

77:57 uh an average American house household pays $231 per year on average for their

78:02 cable box rental estimated 99% of cable

78:05 uh consumers in the US rented their equipment uh Senators who commissioned a

78:10 study on this Market Ed Markley of Massachusetts and

78:14 Richard blue Menthol I'm sure that's wrong blue Blumenthal apparently st's

78:19 huge so I'm Dum and they're massive well

78:23 you guys are huge so oh maybe pretty cool you know um basically just talking

78:28 about cable boxes um I've never seen anyone else use drop pole but apparently

78:33 like a bunch of people in chat are like it's it's absolutely huge so that's cool

78:38 I still want to use them because they're still awesome

78:41 yeah um square space squar space build

78:45 it beautiful beautiful build um anyways

78:48 let's see how the straw pole is going let's see the results here turnup is

78:53 destroy turn up but generally people are saying that it's good yeah what's up

78:59 Justin uh not anymore yeah you're delayed thanks though I appreciate it

79:04 it's good it's good um yeah so 26% of

79:09 people are saying that it's good 177% of people are saying that it's bad with 57

79:14 my favorite number no longer 57 that makes me sad 56% of people saying that

79:19 it is turnip so that's uh that's interesting I do like I I do like seeing

79:25 the good votes though because I haven't actually done it myself so seeing the good votes is um especially when they're

79:29 warning people about doing you know uh fresh install so I I like seeing the

79:32 good vote that's great thanks guys yeah

79:36 so I think that might conclude the

79:40 show see if there's anything new here um is there anything else you

79:46 wanted to talk about what just happened just about the cable box uh the camera

79:50 was blinking red and so I'm wondering if it no no is out of battery if the camera

79:55 died that's super the end of the show

79:58 so could be a radio show now um yeah the

80:02 camera's dead looks like they didn't plug it into the wall they had extra

80:06 batteries I saw them playing and talking about extra batteries I guess that's the

80:10 end of the WAN Show for anyone wondering yes I will be doing a 24-hour stream

80:14 tomorrow it will be for charity it will be on uh it will be for the extra life

80:19 charity so you can check out links to the extra life charity that I'll be

80:23 running on my Twitter I just tweeted it out a few times I'll tweet it out again

80:26 after the show um check it out tomorrow before noon it will start and then again

80:31 it will go for 24 hours I guess that's it I'll roll this

80:35 because you guys can hopefully see it I'm going to have to do it a few times so it'll start because our stuff kind of

80:43 sucks there we

80:51 go show weekly failure

81:01 and is off

81:06 it thank you I'll see you next

81:09 time it was nice talking to you I hope you