RYZEN 5 SPECS ARE HERE! - WAN Show March 17, 2017
Linus Tech Tips
·Linus Tech Tips
·2017-05-06
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is that okay we're live actually now I was like we're going live now and then
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Nick was like got prepared to actually be live and then I was like uh uh uh not
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not quite yet anyways welcome to the show uh I will be hosting as sick today
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and Nick will be hosting as tired today so we're sick and
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tired yes
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accomplished joke goal made anyways we have some great topics uh if I can
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scroll back up that would be awesome ryzen 5 News specs all that fun stuff is
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coming that'll be good very good pricing good minimum specs good other people
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here sick anyways Microsoft actively blocking Windows 7 8 8.1 updates on kbl
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lake and ryzen systems can you stop also V uh vulcan's
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multi-GPU muscle now requires Windows 10
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as well just in case you didn't like
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Windows 10 they're going to try to make you like Windows 10 and uh hopefully
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people like me will be actively very
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intensely looking into how they can switch their whole platform into a basis
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on Linux because I'm trying to bail that
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will maybe be a bigger trying bail Windows I'm trying to bail on Windows
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I'm trying real hard to bail on Windows I'm trying to figure out how I can do
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like over like over motherboard instead
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of over network streaming of like games and stuff so I can play most my games
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natively in Linux but streamed from a Windows VM and like games that aren't on
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Steam because steam is the only one that's going to handle any of this well
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I'll have to just like run through a VM but I'm sort of maybe want to use unraid
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but unraid might not even be the best solution for but yeah but I want the
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only thing I ever do on Windows to be launching and playing games that's it
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nothing else so essentially macOS for
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life raw the
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intro
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what freshbook we don't have music we have my
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voice and we also have Squarespace
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no guess we're backom is correct so that's good um
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let's start with ryzen 5 so there was actually a
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leak slightly before uh yeah quote unquote leak
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slightly before this whole thing was
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like officially announced there was a leak I will show you guys I have to
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click on Linus's screen screen which is weird cuz it's not his screen PC Master
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race subreddit there was a I believe this is Guru 3D article let me scroll in
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there yeah um talking about ryzen 5 but
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this isn't super important anymore because whatever dude let me go back to
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No guest we have actual
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announcements so if we go to AMD.com and go to their press release page that's
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even more fun there we go you can see the whole
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chart for it ryzen 5 you've got the 1600x the 1600 the 1500 X and the,
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1400 the lineup here is actually pretty sick six cores 12 threads I believe it's
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like about half the price as the previous one maybe give or take a little
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bit I don't remember exactly how much the previous one is at 200 this one's at
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$250 six cores 12 threads 3.6 GHz base
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clock 4 GHz boost clock for 250 bucks is
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actually pretty wicked kind of nuts I've been interested in the ryzen 5 lineup
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the whole time because looking at the stuff that we already have um the 1080p
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performance was not as great as other things and I think with the processors
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that we already have it doesn't really matter that much yeah CU if you're
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buying that tier of Hardware you're probably not gaming at 1080p you're
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probably shooting for high or gaming isn't the only thing that you're doing
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that too yeah so either either you're not that worried about it and you're
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running workloads that are more related to things like cine bench where it's
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going to be using all them cores and you're just going to rock out anyways or
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you're shooting above 1080p so the performance numbers at higher resolution
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was really what you're looking at and then you're in great shape with the ryzen 5 stuff it's going to be more
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interesting again uh it's me so I'm not
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going to really care too much until we get on a bench here and try it ourselves
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but now the 1080p performance is going to really come out strong but the fact
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that you can get a four core 8 thread processor at 3.2 GHz base and 3.4 GHz
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boost for $169 is pretty wicked or you can bump
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that up by a little bit get 3.7 GHz on
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the Boost clock for $189 that's only $20
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more it's a pretty tight product stack this is actually really interesting cuz
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like when ryzen 7 was announced I saw
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the pricing and I was like wow if their top end lineup has a chip at 329 like
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are they going to price themselves out of the lower end entire like how are
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they going to do that and it just it I think their whole stack is just really
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tight yeah really really minor increments you pay like 20 30 bucks more
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and you get a better processor so then I guess that's you know that's kind of
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awesome actually because then price of performance actually becomes a conversation again yes instead of like
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okay here's where it slots into the price stack so here's exactly where it's
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slotting into the performance stack and we can pretty much estimate where everything's is going to be before we
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even have it like which is so boring just just so like I like especially from
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the reviewer side of things that is incredibly boring when you know you have
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a shipment coming in and you know exactly what it is and you're like K
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well I know the conclusion of this video already this FPS and this game because
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it's priced at that yeah it's pretty lame it's pretty boring but it's going
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to be nice to actually have the conversation of like hey if you have
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$169 to get a400 if you get 100 you know is it $169
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yeah um is it worth saving that extra 20 bucks and getting
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a500x that's a conversation now that is a really and like one thing that I'm
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excited for is not just like build
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guides but like recommended builds are going to be way more interesting now
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because instead of like oh well you have that budget I guess just buy this stuff
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cuz you know cookie cutter builds or what everything is right now we'll have
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a way wider range of things that you can do with your build you can specify more
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specifics like wow great specify your
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specifics for specificity but like if you're sticking only at 1080p for like
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only certain games that aren't taking advantage of multicore then you go with
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one thing if you're if you're going to stay at 1080p but you're not gaming
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you're doing workstation stuff then you want something else entirely and it's
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just I don't know it's actually really cool so very exciting time and build
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suggestions will include things like
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monitors which is cool cool I don't know
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I like that I like how uh on the press
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release there's cautionary statement and it's like super long okay let me let me
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scroll down where is this wow what the heck is it the longest
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section that they have yeah this press release contains forward-looking statements concerning Advanced Micro
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Devices Inc informational purposes only and may the features functionality
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available timing ex benefits it's like
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literally half the freaking page yep
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but almost not not quite but that's the society we live in man please don't sue
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us for things we'd really like it if you didn't we're just trying to say cool
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stuff about the processors we're just trying to give you guys cool processors
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please did you hear okay this is slightly a bit of an aside but uh I
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don't think you guys necessarily saw this because this one wasn't streamed
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but I did a question and answers thing with Intel at Pax E and A guy came on
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stage with a ryzen hat nice that was that was epic that was fun I
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was I was very happy everyone at Intel was cool with it which I thought was
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cool an Intel person like helped him escorted him on stage and everything
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like they were all cool with it um we roasted him a little bit it was fun he
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got the one like Intel specific question uh wrong which he defended with like
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well it makes sense and I was like okay yeah that's fine um although you should
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know about your the people that you don't like too to justify the things
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that you do like but whatever don't worry about it it's cool blind fanboyism
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is the way the world works also you know what's fun is
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because that conversation happened right after Rison now there's going to be all the comments of like uh Intel just pays
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them to talk about Intel whenever there's a ryzen
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topic oh man I'm triggered yeah I'm
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super happy I well okay I guess I should say super excited for ryzen 5 to come
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out specifically just because of what we were just talking about that's that's
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yes that is the line that it's going to start a new conversation well not a new
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conversation but a conversation that we haven't been able to have for what like four years five years at a
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minimum so like I don't know if you
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remember this too much but the like 8350
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versus what was it like I'm assuming 3500k but Intel
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changes their product names all 3570 the like high-end I5 from that time I I
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think so yeah yeah I can't I don't remember the exact pairing that the war
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was but there was this giant freaking War back when we were in the garage I
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think that Sandy Bridge no it was just after that I think it was 3,000 Ser
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anyways that was super intense and like
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it was fun being a reviewer cuz all the other reviewers are releasing like oh
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man we tried this like different Benchmark and it came out this way and
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this processor is way freaking better and we're like oh my goodness we need to
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try this but like with our own types of
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are represented in this onef set or like
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maybe these guys are running a different version of Windows and this version of
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Windows plays more nicely with this specific processor chipset or whatever
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like man that was fun it's it's been
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it's been a little boring not to
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like yeah it just sort of has everything just it's been less exciting than it
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could have been there we go yeah there's the proper PR answer but we're getting
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there yeah so ryzen 5 will hopefully put us back into like that oh my God yeah
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State and I'm I'm really excited for something we also haven't experienced
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for a while you go on like pcrr pcmr subreddit and stuff and you see everyone
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like oh ten came out to pictures of pulling the thing off yeah I bought a
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really expensive piece of Hardware one thing that'll be nice about ryzen 5 is
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uh like look I made this very price
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performance optimized rig for exactly
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what I want to do this totally makes sense for what I want to do and I'm
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really proud of this system in general that's super cool that's like what I've
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always really liked about computers it's always fun to have the like Halo product
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Lamborghini effect everyone wants to look at the super sick processor or the
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super sick graphics card that has always been a thing the first time I started
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working here and lonus handed me to like I think it was
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580s I was like holy crap there's always
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that moment but still it's cool to see what people can like be proud of and
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come up with in terms of different build decisions and stuff like that and for a
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while it's been a little cookie cutter anyways moving on to a topic that
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depresses me quite a bit uh Microsoft is
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actively blocking Windows 7 8 and 8.1
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updates on kbl lake and ryzen systems in
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an effort to get you to upgrade to Windows 10 updates on Legacy versions of
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Windows 78 and 8.1 are not supported on
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new chips like Intel 7th eration or newer AMD Bristol Ridge or newer
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including ryzen and Qualcomm
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8996 or newer this is a post from RS
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Technica and this just yeah it legitimately makes me really sad because
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this is a very lame way to push people
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forward and absolutely
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unneeded yeah it's like there's there's some Fair statements in here using
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Windows 7 on these latest systems is already awkward in many situations the
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operating system has no built-in support for usb3 or NVMe while neither hurdle is
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insurmountable at all that's a really important statement
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within this article they're like very easy to overcome issues like not that
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big of a deal installing Windows 7 at the very beginning can sometimes be a
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little bit rough cuz those USB 3 drivers and stuff like that but almost every
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board has at least two USB ports ports you can get going with your keyboard and
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mouse you can get those usb3 drivers installed and everything's fine um
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Counterpoint yeah maybe this is you know
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the sign that soon will'll only have
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usb3 drives or ports ports yeah yeah you
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know yeah so maybe there's a positive to it Luke you don't have to be such a
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pessimist all the time embrace your Microsoft overlords my
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my motherboard has a PS2 them because
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I'm that kind of guy yeah but that's cuz you're just like a weird hipster douche
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sometimes I'll take that that's
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okay we just released the analog
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video there's no way I would be able to get away with
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that oh man yeah it's a it's a thing
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sometimes that's another thing noted in the RS article though is that installing
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Windows 8.1 is a relatively smooth sailing experience um and with KB lak's
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overwhelming similarity Sky Lake dropping support does feel rather
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unnecessary I have very relent releasing I have very recently installed Windows
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8.1 on a few different systems yeah zero
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issues right no matter what tier of processor I was using and I used a
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fairly wide range do you think um not
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too crazy I didn't go way too far back but like still do you think there'll be
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something like a Windows 9 that gets around this somehow or is this like no
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because Windows 9 is Windows 9 is very
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technically just Windows 8.1 okay with like some skin mods on it that make it
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look like Windows 7 so the name should actually be like Windows 8.5 or
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something if you want to call it or like Windows 7.5 or some there
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yes sure I like it so anyway this is too
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much of like a Baseline change to have someone be able to come in and hack it
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out or whatever yeah I don't think that's really going to happen all right
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uh not with not with Windows but if you did something like Linux you could make
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your own fork and make it work yeah but then you have to actually do things yeah
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I don't like doing things that's that's that's fair that's fair yeah I will
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hopefully if I can get everything working to the degree that I want it to
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which like to give some background for this I am very much not a fan of Windows
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10 um I stream a fair amount and I've
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been having a lot of issues using Windows 10 compared to using previous
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versions of Windows so I and then like
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all the Telemetry data steing all your stuff and like all the things that have
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been happening around that lately I just don't want to deal with it anymore I
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don't need everything in my entire life
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to be Cloud connected all the time and I would rather just connect to services
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when I need to connect to them it's it's really not that big of a deal for me to
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not have Cortana constantly running and not really be able to be properly
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disabled and having it reenable itself and all that kind of stuff yep super
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annoying so I personally want to try moving to Linux but I still need my
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Windows for certain things that just aren't going to run on window on Linux
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very well um so I have a lot of work ahead of me I
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want to use Synergy okay to make it so
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that my mouse can go across systems
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super super easily and one keyboard and mouse that I can never really tell that
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I'm using two different systems and one monitor will just be Windows and one
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monitor will be Linux and I want to be able to like transfer everything back
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and forth and have everything work beautifully um but yeah that's that's a
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long ways coming don't expect this video anytime soon might not even end up
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making the video it's just going to be my personal setup I would like to but
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that would probably involve hauling my rig to work so maybe not fun because amethyst
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falling off and stuff would be bad that would not be good it's happened twice
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amethysts have fallen that there's one update for my personal Rak amethysts
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have fallen twice both times for when I moved the system the first time was
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moving my system to my house the second time was moving my system from the desk
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that it was at to a new desk so like
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those are all just going to fall off within like the next few months I don't think I
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don't think all of them the only ones that fell fell off didn't have very good
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connections because I had to mount them to a thin rail like if this is the
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amethyst Rock I had to mount them to a thin rail here yeah all the ones that
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had a flat wall are sticking quite well to the point where I can like grab it
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and kind of pull on it a little bit and it's staying there um but like the ones
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that are above where like the heat sink are and stuff those are sketchy because
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I mounted those on the fan bracket for if you wanted to install a radiator in
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the top okay so if I can maybe find some
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other way to mount them up there they'll be fine but yeah everything else has
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been fine it's just the ones that are above like the CPU heat sink that have
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been an issue uh moving on so this is Chrome 57
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wanting to throttle background tabs to save energy do you want to do the Vulcan
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thing or no the Vulcan thing did I miss something I did vulcan's multi-GPU
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muscle so this kind of ties into the Windows 10 topic yes also requires
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Windows 10 so Vulcan will only support multiple gpus in Windows 10 dropping
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Windows 7 8 8.1 operating systems uh
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Native multi-GPU support for NVIDIA GeForce SLI and AMD radon Crossfire
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setups will now require wddm to be set
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to linked display adapter mode something that is exclusive to Windows 10 so I
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talked about this a little bit um I
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didn't talk about the requirement for Windows 10 right but I talked about like
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the different modes like uh LDA M or
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link display adapter mode LDA all this other kind of stuff in the WTF is going
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on with SLI video if you want to check that out I can't point in the corner cuz
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this isn't going to be edited it's live show I I just got the like physical
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reaction that I was like referencing a video and I need to go like this cuz
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like just shoving your fingers up to the my left is like just what happens
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whenever I reference a video um but yeah if you want to learn more about like
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link display adapter modes and like all that other weird stuff that is happening
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with weird and actually very cool stuff that's currently happening with uh
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multiple graphics cards check out the WTF is going on with s live video and if
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that intrigues you and you're like I want to Deep dive into more things check
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out WTF is going on with dx12 and Vulcan
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which is actually still a very valid video which I'm happy about even with
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current information it's very valid there's some things that have been like refined slightly but not even that much
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we're pretty much in the exact same spot we were at before game developers are
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not building things from the ground up with Vulcan dx12 they're starting with
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dx11 and then like converting things over and it's not being properly
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optimized and none of it really matters yet but Luke you didn't test on Vulcan
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in dx12 so obviously your methology is flawed I am so happy that that's done I
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am so happy that people have stopped that that was freaking
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nuts oh my God fun times oh my God you guys are
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shills cuz you didn't use this thing that is
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broken uh people are fun okay now actually
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moving on to Chrome 57 Chrome 57 will throttle background tabs to save energy
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after 10 seconds of being in the background um not in Focus I guess
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because you could have a bunch of M uh monitors it will drop its uh performance
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by a little bit H so like I wonder how
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that's going to affect the performance of stuff like
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YouTube music or like twitch streams where a lot of people
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where you know any of those where a lot of people will be you know doing their
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work on their main monitor or whatever and they'll have like music in a
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different tab or a video playing in a different tab so uh 1% of CPU is still a
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fair amount yeah I would be interested to see how this works for like lower-end
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laptops and stuff like that
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um but I don't know it's it's going to
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be interesting one thing that I'm hoping is they they specifically wanted people
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to start using service workers um
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because service workers will be able to better manage this I'm just hoping that
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it's a little bit intelligent sure like
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if basically twitch streams is the biggest thing I'm worried about because
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uh the the majority of people that I know that watch Twitch streams do not
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have that twitch stream as their main
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hazy probably Nick probably sending emails
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oring on other various things uh just like doing other things at home yeah EXA
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yeah maybe not even at your computer necessarily I I don't even watch that
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much twitch streams but if I do I'm usually also playing a game yeah and
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it's often like about the game I'm playing because I'm like hm I wonder if
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other people are experiencing this thing I really like that about twitch I can
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just be like hm I have a weird in this section let me go check out a few other
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people playing the same game see if they're having the same thing um
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everyone watches Twitch in their own way I'm sure there's people watching right
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now that have this selected as their main window but like I also know there's
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a huge percentage of people that don't do that um and on some devices that 1%
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CPU limit thing might actually come into play there so I just to do like a live
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test um I opened up Edge and just opened
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up our stream on Source quality and it's the max it was at was 0.3% of CPU usage
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but this is a blade yeah so like yeah
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it's not going to use much CPU on this computer um if you're using like a Dell
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from 2005 it might kind of screw you up a
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little bit yeah that might hurt that might legitimately hurt it's it's going
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to really depend device per device I don't think this is going to Warrant
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like a video but I think it would be a really cool Forum thread if you guys
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start once this is out if you guys start
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discussing like the different effects on your usage and your computer I think
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that could be pretty cool gun run says use the desktop app yeah actually hey
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gun run I haven't done this yet but I'm really interested I think you get it
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from downloads. twitch.com can you check that real quick just to make sure yeah I
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guess I can too download or TV oh probably TV yeah
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my bad no is that not it gun run will
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probably post the problem one yeah just post the link in the chat gun run
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whenever you have it um also the desktop app looks super cool though some people
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are saying Firefox Master race um I
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haven't used Firefox in months cuz the last time I did it was like the biggest
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I was a major Fanboy didn't I loved Firefox and then it just stopped working
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six months ago there app. twitch.tv/ twitch the Twitch app there you
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go this is a public server anyway we
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should do this later because we're show but um that could be something for sure
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that would be cool because then Chrome isn't going to meter you uh I used to be
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a giant Firefox Fanboy and I don't even use it anymore Firefox was great and
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then it wasn't anymore like I don't know what else to say it just like stopped
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working entirely for me I think I think a lot of that had to do with Chrome or
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Google in general I guess pulling their support cuz Firefox used to just
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like lavish in the Google money by being
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like yes Google will be our default search engine yeah and now they don't
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make nearly as much from that and then I think the reaction to that was to expand
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and try to do other things um and I
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don't think that worked out for them super well I could be wrong I know they
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asked something for the Recently someone in the chat says it won't throttle media
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but I'm searching for media in this
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article and I do not see anywhere where it mentions not throttling media um
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video no no mention of it so I know it
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very specifically mentioned like jscript stuff JavaScript stuff um so maybe it
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won't throttle media maybe this is all a conversation for not but if that's not
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carved out it could be a potential issue for sure yeah and again like I said
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discuss this on the Forum once it comes out try playing media stuff see if you
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can find a site or a computer that won't
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play very nicely with different things cuz it's not new and it's old and slow
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and stuff um and see if you can get it over 1% in a background tab with media
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if it doesn't throttle it then there you go we've solved that problem figured it
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out I don't think there's going to be that many things that this is solving
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though if it's not throttling media yeah I
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really person to be fair there are a lot
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of sites that have like ads and other
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crap that use up lot of your CPU but
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this doesn't help a lot of people that run like ad blocker and all that stuff
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it's just inhibiting them potentially
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um yeah I don't know it's it's going to
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be weird speaking of how can I speaking
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of uh the the dumbest thing I've ever read in the last forever this is
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hilarious uh apparently a very close I
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hope it's not us uh apparently a very close us Ally uh shot down probably
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us have you like read the Drone regulations out here it's pretty nice
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they're so stupid it's pretty nuts it's like you can't fly over like 100 feet or
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something you can't be within like this many kilometers of a a a roadway or a
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school or a an airport like and obviously airport makes sense but like
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if you look in a Canadian and specifically BC drone regulations like
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everything else BC is like the dumbest place to live in terms of legislation
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yeah um they're so stupid BC has been
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described as the wild wild west of North American politics yeah BC's also been
27:59
well Vancouver specifically has also been described as no fun city because
28:03
our legislators are like so overbearing
28:06
yeah so anyways a a very close it is
28:10
said to be very close I know the title doesn't say that but it said to be very close uh us Ally shot down a $200 drone
28:16
with a $3 million Patriot missile I don't think um Mexico has snow so very
28:23
close is probably oh no
28:29
it's us okay I don't know if that's like an actual photo of it happening though
28:33
it's us it's well that's very true but
28:37
then I would question the accuracy of this article no I'm just kidding anyway
28:41
let's get on to it um uh one one thing that was was great is he said that it
28:46
did a really fantastic job the Drone is
28:50
definitely no longer flying so like
28:53
there you go mission accomplished we can all go home that's good um he said the
28:59
it was a gut instinct he said that's an air defense problem because they're in
29:03
the air so they shot it with a gigantic 3 million doll missile cuz they're in
29:08
the air um one thing that was interesting was it was stated like if
29:13
we're going to have these types of reactions to drones I'm I'm paraphrasing
29:17
a little bit one of the easiest ways to like fight against North American Allies
29:23
would just be to fly really cheap drones everywhere and have them shoot them with
29:26
$3 million missiles then you just bleed them
29:30
financially commenting on the return on investment he said if I'm the enemy I'm
29:34
thinking hey I'm going to go on eBay and buy as many of these $300 quadcopters as
29:39
I can and expend all the Patriot missiles out
29:42
there yep yeah that would be a pretty good plan that's like when you're
29:47
playing red alert and you use like a really low tier unit to run really close
29:51
to the tank and then the tank shoots and it blows itself up really effective
29:56
really good strategy red 2 good game
30:00
believe that works with Siege tanks as well Starcraft 2 nobody plays it anymore
30:03
that's fine moving on
30:06
um I just thought that was hilarious that was in the dock I don't like
30:11
we probably don't have anything else to say there yeah like this is not the
30:15
scope of this show it's just funny how dumb how dumb there's drone in the title
30:20
so we were like whatever we'll talk about it um Google is looking into
30:24
revamping ad policies after big brands boyc caught so this is not surprising
30:30
they've already moved in this
30:33
direction um this was a freak out from
30:36
not that long ago where a whole bunch of
30:40
uh different YouTubers were saying that YouTube is like oh they're going to shut
30:45
us down and all this kind of stuff um oh
30:48
for like the demonetization based on certain tags and all that stuff that was
30:52
happening a while ago yeah yeah and this
30:56
like there there's there's this is a really long kind of not wall of text
31:00
because it's paragraphed but like the notes in here are talking about how
31:04
different like taxpayer funded ads would
31:08
be going before extremists or people
31:11
that are sexist or whatever the UK
31:14
government found out that their PSA ads were appearing before videos uploaded by
31:18
to quote rape apologists anti-semites
31:21
and banned hate preachers um so this
31:24
means that those people are getting money from UK taxpayers uh some others
31:28
were affected like British supermarket chain J J Sansbury pick that's like the
31:34
most British name for y hello this is
31:37
Jay Sansbury pick I help you
31:41
today hello Governor wow you want a SP
31:44
oh jeez we just lost all of our British fans sick
31:49
uh they appeared on videos posted by the white nationalist polish Defense League
31:54
the garden and L'Oreal ads appeared next to extremist and hatefield videos in
31:58
response Google announced changes in ad policy to give clients more control over
32:01
where their ads appear in YouTube and the Google Display Network would appear in the coming weeks so gun run was like
32:09
banned sorry I just glanced over and saw that that was fantastic
32:13
so already got my tee says someone uh
32:17
the the question then is how do they
32:20
ensure that this isn't going to essentially blur the lines of Comedy
32:27
which is something that's been happening lately a lot with the whole PewDiePie
32:31
thing um so is the advertising policy
32:36
going to make a determination between what is held as a joke and what is held
32:41
as someone's opinion how are they supposed to make those determinations
32:44
obviously that's an extremely difficult thing to do um so yeah it's just
32:50
anytime obviously there has to be you
32:54
know limit set in place once YouTube or something like like YouTube gets to the
32:59
the level that it's at now where it's so huge that these giant brands are
33:02
advertising they have to do something they have to do something about a lot of
33:07
the content that goes on the platform and there's different like just to jerp
33:10
in here for a second if you have like a late night comedy special and it gets a
33:16
little racy and you say some kind of edgy stuff that's great but you have
33:20
late night TV ads going with that
33:24
there's certain brands that aren't going to want to go on your edgy comedy
33:28
special totally on this is talking about like TV stuff and I completely get it if
33:33
I was an Advertiser I wouldn't want my ads going on certain videos I understand
33:37
that I think it's going to take a lot of
33:40
work on YouTube's end to make this and
33:45
work well the concerning part is look what happened with the like copyright
33:50
claim system on YouTube for however many years yeah that should have taken a lot
33:54
of work instead they were like automate
33:58
it yeah screw them automate it so if
34:02
they take the same kind of approach which I'm not necessarily saying that they're going to do um it could turn out
34:07
to be you know very concerning for some creators because there are creators out
34:12
there who do take that kind of um very
34:15
rash approach to Comedy um that that could be perceived
34:20
as hate speech and all that stuff so um
34:24
just and that's that's just like to the people that are doing just edgy comedy
34:30
stuff this might be a time for not that
34:33
I'm in necessarily a position to till you had to run your company but this
34:37
might be a time to reach out and try to do other things to make money try to
34:42
diversify your income no being a YouTuber is scary sometimes policy
34:47
changes happen and you can just lose everything from under you it's crazy so
34:51
before this comes in and you potentially get flagged to someone that they don't
34:55
want um like having ads going through
34:59
your channel for these different brands maybe try to figure it out and I'm sure
35:04
maybe start selling some edgy shirts man people like edgy shirts I'm sure that
35:08
it's not going to be like a blanket policy I'm sure that it's like they're
35:12
saying if we can go by what's been said so far it seems like pretty extreme
35:17
extreme cases there's going to be dashboard applications where advertisers
35:21
can kind of specify what they want and as long as it all gets implemented like
35:24
that I think it's great because what that does is it lends confidence to the
35:28
platform it gives these larger Brands you know more peace of mind that they're
35:34
advertising on stuff that they would want associated with their brand and it
35:38
just grows the entire industry because that's something that you know we've
35:42
been working on for the last however many years now is like legitimizing the
35:46
industry and it's finally sort of getting to that point um another weird
35:50
way to look at it is it might even be better for the other side because if
35:55
you're on YouTube and you're really really into watching your white
35:59
nationalist thing you might not want to watch an ad for a company that supports
36:02
all these things that you don't like J sales's PLC maybe you don't like that
36:09
Supermarket I don't I don't I don't know I this could be better for everyone I
36:15
don't know potentially I hope I hope it is it's a weird way of looking at it um
36:18
so Nitro corrected me in the chat apparently it's not pick it's not pic
36:22
it's PLC uh which stands for public limited company which I didn't know up
36:27
here we call him LTDs or corporations or inks
36:32
inks inks um so they just call it sabes s
36:38
sabes sainsbury that's still like sainsbury that's still the most British
36:42
Supermarket ever British at least to
36:46
us who are we to talk about we're not exactly an authority we go to the the
36:51
good old Real Canadian Superstore we're going to go get some
36:56
some cheese it's literally called The Real Canadian Superstore and we're going
37:00
to get some potatoes and we're going to put them all together and make some
37:03
Putin have you guys ever seen okay
37:06
pronounce Putin what the heck was
37:11
that I don't know if you guys know this we're going to go off topic here for a
37:15
second but um different brands will
37:20
differentiate their like American and Canadian branches just by like hiding
37:26
little Maple Leafs in their marketing and one of the easiest ones to tell wend
37:31
is with Wendy's and you can see it cuz like the
37:34
apostrophe you see that it's just a little Maple
37:39
Leaf and that's a super Canadian thing we're we're not going to we're not going
37:43
to stand out too much we're not going to try to hurt anybody's feelings oh we
37:46
just we just want the apostrophe if you can just make the apostrophe a little
37:50
Maple Leaf would just be so happy that's all we need after we go out there and
37:55
play some stick and Puck um you know we're going to go down to the good old
37:59
Wendy's we're going to get ourselves a Canadian burger and I don't even know
38:03
what this accent is it's like half like it's a little weird it's like it's like
38:06
half like Southern half Ontarian like half Norwegian sure yeah throw that one
38:14
in there anyway um speaking of which if you want
38:18
to watch a I'm just going to throw a recommendation in here hilarious series
38:24
uh maybe if you're 18 and above cuz they Ed some like harsh language and other
38:28
various things but letter Kenny it's about like Canadian Hicks is that
38:33
actually funny okay it requires a certain sense of
38:38
humor but I find it entertaining cuz I watched like they started on YouTube
38:42
right yeah so I watched like a couple other things and it's like it's very
38:46
different some of it's funny it just feels like they're like making the same
38:50
jokes over and over and over and over and over again uh if you're watching
38:54
letter Kenny problems uh maybe I don't which is like the series that's on
38:58
YouTube which I think is like 1 through six episodes of like just them standing
39:02
front of the camera giving like essentially on liners yeah yeah that's
39:05
not what the show is okay the show is like it has story progression and
39:08
character development and like all this kind of stuff I'm just I'm trying to think of what they always say like oh
39:14
pitter patter let's get at her yeah P patter let's get at
39:18
her just like the most hit Canadian thing ever I love it my favorite one by
39:24
far is your 10 ply Bud the idea there is
39:28
that two ply toilet paper is already soft yes yes yes yes so 10 ply toilet
39:32
paper would be ridiculously soft and you're just way too speaking of pit
39:37
patter let's get adding everyone wants us to move on so uh so add spots I mean
39:42
I was going to say another topic but I mean pitter patter let's get at her
39:45
pitter patter let's get at her before we do ad spots you want to do Floatplane
39:49
sh nope uh I don't have that set up this
39:54
second because that's set up on Linus's laptop all right so let's do float
39:57
plane's a thing yeah let's just talk about we don't need to show it sure I
40:02
just don't know what oh there you go perfect float plan's a thing yeah it's
40:05
pretty great y streaming usually works not always usually though it's been
40:11
pretty good lately don't don't read the fine print of which there is none that says that it sometimes works and
40:15
hopefully works but then you can download it Tech when you sign up for
40:19
Floatplane there's like a hopefully this will work section that includes
40:23
streaming well there you go but like a very high percentage of the time time
40:27
streaming works not always not always
40:31
but a very high percentage of the time so anyway uh on float
40:36
plane we have the Silverstone this one
40:40
just went up last night the Silverstone headphone stand project conclusion oh
40:45
dang when did that start two years later yeah okay so the conclusion to a project
40:50
actually pretty funny nice little Vlog going on nice little Vlog yeah um we
40:54
reviewed a an 18-month old device hell
40:57
yeah the Surface Pro 4 why not because uh the price recently dropped and we
41:01
were like should you buy it or should you wait for sp5 okay yeah which should
41:06
there you go I'm actually waiting to see
41:09
this video because for my mom's work she wants like a tablety kind of thingy and
41:14
I'm like maybe a service apparently powerful you'll have to watch to find
41:19
out how it is yeah um luckily float pay
41:23
member benefits of the job so I'll be able to watch one there is also the MSI
41:29
Trident 3 Desktop review so if you guys remember that little tiny console killer
41:34
thing from CES that we checked out at MSI's Booth got it got a full review
41:39
going on and then um there's also a very
41:42
very light laptop you might even say
41:45
it's only some grams of weight oh dang
41:49
that's on on there as well so we got a lot of good content over one thing from
41:52
the Techquickie side that I want to drop real quick is the like we passed a
41:56
million subscri got a golden play button here's like the
42:00
history of Techquickie it didn't include everything it didn't have my 15
42:05
minute scripts in it which made me a little sad but it's okay um but if
42:09
you're a fan of John he hosts that video
42:12
he hosts it yeah so it's pretty it's
42:16
cool I actually really like that video there's multiple times where I burst out
42:19
laughing which is not that common cuz I'm I've been on the internet for a long
42:23
time and my soul is old and numb uh but
42:26
I yeah it's it's it's very funny it's very well done the skid at the end is
42:30
funny um it's the the whole thing is good I recommend checking that out so if
42:35
if you love John and you love TCH quickie and especially if you love
42:39
Dennis Dennis is in it too then you should go check that out so anyway float
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playing it's great we release new videos all the time every day um if you're
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SP what do we have left there was a few interesting things uh Nintendo is like
46:04
doubling production of the switch yeah apparently yeah which is like there
46:08
isn't really anything to really say about that uh on account of strong
46:12
demand the company reported that now plans to manufacture at least 16 million
46:15
consoles over the fiscal year starting April 1st which is twice its initial
46:18
plan so I guess they didn't have very high expectations to begin with maybe
46:23
well like uh it's sort of a Zelda machine right now someone posted an
46:27
interesting infographic which I don't have I hate how I always have these
46:31
Revelations during the show instead of before the show super super helpful for
46:36
everyone um but it was all the launch titles for all Nintendo consoles
46:41
throughout their history and it was interesting seeing how my favorite
46:45
consoles so far have had like not very many launch titles like N64 had like two
46:50
or three and Super Nintendo had not very many at all as well at least na launch
46:55
titles yeah that's true they might have had more like JP launch titles or
46:59
whatever but not very many na ones um I
47:04
also while I was on my trip in Boston a lot of people had switches that's not
47:08
that surprising that was that you were going to PAX East no I know but still
47:12
like it was it was especially because they were relatively hard to even buy
47:16
true it was it was interesting to see people liked it liked Zelda I guess that
47:22
much to like kind of haul it around with them all the time when it's not that
47:27
easy it's not as easy as a 3DS or something no you can't just throw it in
47:30
your pocket you need to bring like a dedicated bag for it or have one of those ginormous carrying cases which are
47:34
like legitimately this big which was just like a little bit cumbersome get
47:40
one if you're going to get a switch because the screens are sketchy and like
47:44
scratch up really easily like like in
47:47
the dock it seems like a lot of their
47:51
stuff is going to have quality control issues with that because I know there were also the issues that dbrand yeah
47:57
realized with the coding on both the
48:00
joycons and the the console itself are
48:03
just not very durable so dbrand would put a skin on and take it off and it would just slowly wear away to be fair
48:09
they said it was over a a large number of applications and removals but still
48:14
it should last it doesn't happen on a huge amount of other devices and like
48:19
the N64 is still relevant like not
48:22
relevant but it's still possibly in good shape today if you have one um um do you
48:27
think that your switch is going to last however many years 20 I legitimately
48:31
don't if you're actually using it especially because uh in different modes
48:36
I should say going in and out of the dock the I should have covered this in
48:39
my video I didn't have any problems with it with it which is why I didn't but I
48:43
did notice it I just also noticed I didn't have any problems with it so I
48:46
didn't bring it up but the when you go
48:50
to rail in your your switch into the
48:53
dock yeah there's what looks like rubber pads that you would like slide it along
48:58
they're plastic so you go to like slide it in
49:01
and it slides against that and it scratches the screen what it shouldn't
49:07
matter but it has been so like the one
49:10
time I've docked mine since I got it cuz I don't have a screen protector on it
49:13
yet I I'm getting one I'm getting one I just don't have it yet I like pressed it
49:17
against the back of the dock and then slid it in which is something you can do
49:21
so that it the screen doesn't touch the front there's enough Gap there that it's
49:24
fine and then once it was plugged in I like light let go of it so that it just
49:28
like rested against it and then everything was okay I just do not want to scratch it the dock is just aesthetic
49:33
right basically it's it's a glorified
49:37
USB hub so like that holds the switch oh
49:42
man um to correct my statement from a couple minutes ago the N64 was released
49:47
in '96 at least mine's plastic 96 that's
49:51
crazy that is actually pretty crazy so 21 years ago which is actually pretty
49:57
nuts um non official estimates suggest
50:00
the switch sold about 1 and a. half million units in its first week and that
50:04
compares to 13.5 million Wii U units sold in the entire four-year run of the
50:10
console uh but the thing is like and I
50:14
watched someone's video because someone was like okay a lot of people around the
50:17
switch launch are talking about how badly represented the Wii U was because
50:22
no one knew what the heck it was sure so he was like okay let's do a
50:25
retrospective and look at how bad it actually was watching The Press launches
50:29
and stuff even I'm sitting there going like what is this they never show the
50:35
actual console they just show the tablety thing like it's actually really
50:39
weird the whole thing is very weird I remember like even myself being confused
50:43
as to what it was being like is this just like an addition for the Wii like
50:48
it was very very odd and like they the
50:52
press conference for the switch wasn't the best press conference I've ever seen
50:56
by by any means but you understood what it was yeah you absolutely knew what the
51:01
switch was there was no questions about it you knew what the joy-cons were you
51:04
knew what the switch was you knew there's three different modes handheld tabletop docked you knew Zelda was
51:10
coming on it like you knew all the facts and that's what really mattered that was
51:14
not a thing with the Wii U to the point where even now I'll like talk to people about the
51:20
WiiU and they're like oh man I really want to play breath of the wild but I
51:23
don't want to play by an entire system just to play breath of the wild and I'm
51:27
like do you have someone you can like borrow a Wii U off of or like go to
51:31
Willow which isn't available for most people and like see if you can rent a
51:34
Wii U um and they're like what like it's
51:37
on the wiii I'm like no it's on the Wii U they're like oh so you have to get the
51:40
tablet thing I'm like no it's a different console it had
51:46
a really cool version of Mario Kart and I liked it Wii U is actually pretty sick
51:51
speaking of Mario Kart like I'm wondering if they're over producing at
51:57
this point if they're doubling they're playing to 16 million consoles over this
52:01
year because what do they have coming out breath of the wild anyone who wanted
52:06
to get a switch for breath of the wild has probably either got one already or
52:13
just given up and bought breath of the Wild on Wii U right that's what I did I
52:17
just bought it on the Wii U and play like yes there's some stuttering in in
52:22
towns and stuff there's some stuttering on the switch as well that's yeah so
52:26
it's not not like it's a Wii U issue people are still playing it over there
52:30
um what's coming out a reskinned or not
52:34
even reskin Mario Kart 8 yeah uh Mario
52:37
Kart 8 with additional content or something it's no I wouldn't call it a
52:41
reskin I think it's yeah there's some
52:44
things that have changed Mario Kart with additional content yeah but a game
52:47
that's already been released and then like two other fa most Mario Karts are
52:51
pretty similar and there's like there's there's some it's just not as different
52:55
as most of the are sure but like there's there's more courses there's more Riders
53:01
uh there's this more new like training wheels mode thing like there's a there
53:04
are some things that are changing I'm just curious where they think 16 million
53:07
units of demand is going to come from yeah well like I'm expecting
53:13
smash smash for took like three years
53:16
did it seriously to something like that yeah so I'm I'm you know maybe they have
53:23
plans that we don't know about yet maybe they're going to be doing like massive
53:27
Virtual Console stuff I know that's been a huge point of discussion so maybe
53:31
they're like hey yeah we're going to have like super metroid and all this
53:35
other like Mario 64 o Time stuff that you can play
53:39
through their online um monthly subscription plan or whatever whatever
53:43
it is that they're doing um maybe that's where they think the demand's going to
53:46
come from I would probably get one if a lot of those old games were on that and
53:51
exclusively available through the switch um but yeah E3 announcements people are
53:56
saying that's possible for sure um yeah
54:00
it'll just be interesting to see because hopefully they'll have more stuff by
54:03
holiday season otherwise I don't know where they're going to sell 16 million
54:07
switches another big one is Super Mario Odyssey is coming out for holiday season
54:13
yeah so people are interested in it right now because of Zelda and then
54:17
Mario Kart's coming out in like not that long but it's not a new game whatever
54:21
it's going to be kind of weird I don't think a huge wave of people are going to
54:25
buy switch is for Mario Kart I don't really see that happening um especially
54:30
now that we've seen how to be honest crappy the single Joy con yes
54:36
experiences yeah cuz half of that was like oh you can do I think they showed
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split screen right for Mario Kart 8 yeah yeah I think so so you can do split
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screen on like an airplane with your friend I want do that like I tried to
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hold the joycon I was like wow this is total trash yeah like legitimate I am
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very uninterested playing Mario Kart on a on one Joy on one joyon it's so
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uncomfortable so maybe they'll have other more comfortable joycons coming
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down the line I doubt that I don't think so but um some people have made like 3D
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printed adapter things that you can rail in that make it better but for me it's
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just the proximity of the buttons and the yeah thumbstick how did that make it
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through yeah I don't I don't know I don't understand anyway so yeah I I hope
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I wish them the best because I like Nintendo um if Super Mario Odyssey
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knocks it out of the park I think they'll be in a pretty good spot because
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then like parents for kids who didn't
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want to buy a switch right now because buying a switch and Zelda is actually
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quite an investment no kid especially because they're probably also going to want a Pro Controller and those Pro
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controllers being uspc based that's
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they're like super dope but not cheap
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cheap at all um so I could see it being
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a holiday purchase for a lot of different families and if Mario Odyssey
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is good that's two titles right there which is often all it really needs to
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sell someone Samsung sa is going to have
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facial recognition for payments cool let's do we can do this as
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like one of our last articles uh these two we'll do I like both of these so
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first pictures of AMD Vega reference
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card has been released and there's a new
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logo there's a couple cool things here to notice there's the radon Vega logo
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which looks pretty sick in my opinion and then that is like a cool stylized
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heat sink you've got those like kind of slashes going on there white back plate
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which honestly is working with a lot of different system builds right now
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there's a lot of white white and black themed and black white red and black is
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definitely a thing um they like I I
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think that could look awesome the side of it still looks like it'll have the
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Radeon thing there is that like metal do
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you think I really can't tell these seems like pretty not great photos yeah
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no kidding um so I'm going to try to not make very many assumptions about that
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but it's I see where you're coming from on the metal thing I was actually
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wondering that earlier but it could just be like a really crappy that kind of
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looks like a a similar thing to the back
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BL that you it's yeah like something could it
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yeah yeah that's funny um but yeah no I
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really like the look back the like the it looks like it would be a v if it
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wasn't cut off there with the red logo that looks really sharp radi on Vega
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clean text clean design it's got the lines on there looks really sh like the
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design on there really badass I'm happy about that because like
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Aesthetics are totally a thing right now I ain't mad at that I ain't mad at that
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uh jump into another topic Sweden produces programming from grade one
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which is awesome in my opinion I wish I
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had learned programming from grade one or in school at all I wish it was like
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more of a thing at the schools that we were at I would like wasn't really that
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much of a thing instead of spending hours learning cursive which I will
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never ever ever use yeah um I would love
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to be able to program something yeah like anything I'm like not capable and
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the thing is it's going to become like you might want to start taking Linda
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courses or something not to give her guys a show out um but because it's
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going to become oh God a very comp yeah the bot is targeting you now so you only
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have to post it once and then it reposts it like a billion times I just uh spam
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chat don't worry about it it's okay don't worry gun run just Global bans you
58:52
too much spamming um anyways uh like it's going
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to be a very competitive thing in the job market because even business people
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if you can make little bot things to help do stuff if you can write really
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complex Excel equations whatever that'll help you a lot and speaking of really
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complex Excel equations they want to
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integrate the fact that they're teaching people coding in schools into their math
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and science programs so in order to
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solve certain problems you're going to be able to write a program to do it for
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you and they they're going to want you to try to figure out how to write programs to solve different arithmetic
59:31
problems automatically instead of you doing it and they're going to want you
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to be able to do it on your own yeah because they're going to go like okay
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now that you understand this concept kind of show me how you understand it by
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making this computer solve it for you and then you've now ascended beyond that
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you don't have to worry about doing it manually anymore you can just have this computer do it I think that's super cool
59:50
that would be awesome yeah that would be awesome instead of okay it's time for
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your grade 12 provincials everybody
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clear the data on your graphing calculator you can't have any games or
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cheat codes on your graphing calculators
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otherwise you're going to get expelled it just we can't have it that
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was so annoying cuz I actually had a lot of stuff in dumbest like school man
60:16
sorry I brought tools that made me prepared for this issue my bad anyways
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um a note from Sweden's minister of Education says we need more coders and
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it's a skill that will be needed in more jobs in the future moreover we are being
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affected by coding we are being affected by coding
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to a Growing Degree to a greater degree probably that
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makes sense to an increasing degree yeah yeah I think that is super cool I think
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teaching coding in school is super important I think that should be like a
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basic skill that basically everyone has yeah I wish I had some of it cuz I'm
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going to be that old man he's like I don't get these kids these days they
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have to code they have all the stuffff the technology it's ridiculous I even
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took some of the stuff in school and I'm going to be that old man so I need to take refresher courses isn't it weird
61:05
feeling old it is these kids three Printing and coding is going to be
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taught in school tell that's going to be I tell you what really
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interesting anyways guys I think that's it for the stream um thanks for coming
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by thank you for watching sick and tired host the W show for you this week uh if
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you want to tune in next week twitch.tv
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liniste it's pretty cool same bat
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Channel a not this coming Friday but the
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one after that are we going to be able to have a w
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show I have to be cryptic I think so and
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not not today but next Friday I think
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there's going to be some guests on the show oh and I think there's going to be
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special announcement oh
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bye bye wait I have to roll
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the oh God okay we're
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good he
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Co doing finish up the show I'm running
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the out you want to come say hi it's also just the
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intro the intro is the outro yeah that's pretty crazy squ space squ space fresh
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Colton hey guys what's going on hey all right let's uh talk about today okay bye
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