Countries Tax Social Media - WAN Show July 6 2018
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·Linus Tech Tips
·2019-05-06
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bang what does it mean what does it mean
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to be happy in a world where the whole every country everywhere is trying to go
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after your internet that's basically what the news is this week uh we've got
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european wikipedia sites go dark to protest copyright reform we've got that
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the eu internet copyright bill was rejected hooray i think i don't know a
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ton about it to be completely honest we got kids trapped in caves thailand and
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elon musk trying to save him god apparently that makes sense this is
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crazy also uganda has a new uh social uganda
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has a new social media tax which is like actually incredibly
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expensive compared to how much people make in general over there this is not
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the way roll the intro
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where is it good
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it's good
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uh someone sent me a message on the forum they thought that lance is wearing a tunnel bear shirt here
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it actually really looks like it i i see it it's not but no i asked dad and he
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showed me it's like it's a box that's not white
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the white bar underneath his like uh says unboxing yeah
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yay p-i-a yeah hey if you uh need to get
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around uh certain social taxes in uganda
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and yay ltx you don't need a vpn there
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because you'll be doing interactive stuff in in like real life and things
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because it's fun and good public internet access
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yeah um so let's let's start at the top uh
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wikipedia did a little bit of a protest in the eu
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um to protest copyright reform and how they did that was they basically turned
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off two different sites within wikipedia so when you go to
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wikipedia you pick your language and each one of those is essentially kind of
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its own thing so i believe they turned off france and spain
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something like that oh no it's italian spanish and italian the spanish and
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italian editions while in europe
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were were off essentially so if you went to the site you just saw this giant
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block of text that was like by the way that was posted by maine's on the forum
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thank you very much i appreciate it my main user yeah you just saw a bunch of
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texts that was like hey you're not seeing information
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you're seeing a description of what they're trying to do in the ways that it
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will affect look at this nice internet user we got
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there we go that was slow i don't think that was
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engadget's fault i think that's us um but yeah yeah so that that sucks for
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anyone who had to research anything at that point
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oh man i guess you could probably just go to a different version of wikipedia
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and like translate the page or whatever but
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yeah so this happened ahead of the
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european parliament's final vote on the controversial eu copyright directive
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uh which is the first time the region is updating its copyright
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laws since 2001. they're ostensibly trying to modernize them but
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it kind of looks like it's it's a war between
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content creators like like uh movie studios and the
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record business business versus business the giant
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decentralized internet of people who just want to remix and create and upload
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like memes that that's been at the center of this for a little while that's
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how a lot of people have actually heard about this is the meme problem but it's
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it has to do with a lot of other things as well and the link tax yeah so there's
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two articles within the the big thing uh
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which we have linked in the wan dock here
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so if you are watching this later on you can check the
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wan doc in the link below the youtube video or soundcloud yes there is an
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audio or only version of this actually uh and you'll be able to find it there
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uh the first article is article 11 which will require also post websites to pay a
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fee to link to news publications or to use snippets from their articles so if
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you're on facebook and you see an embedded snippet or an embedded link to
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another article where you've got a little thumbnail image a part of the
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title and maybe a description of the content facebook wouldn't be able to show that
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unless they paid some kind of license fee to the owner of that content
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i think yeah it's pretty like
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it's ridiculous as if as if it's difficult as if facebook is
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just going to spend all day every day licensing all the different pieces of content that
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get uploaded the internet that day it doesn't make any sense
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check out this one one quick thing i just want to show oops
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um how wonderful this is we're able to stream
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but i can't even like load web pages priorities baby yeah we got this though
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yeah the stream is working but i can't see the chat so you know i am actually
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not 100 percent convinced that it's working but it might be
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i'm gonna go pre-recorded yeah yeah yeah
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i'm gonna go with yes while this salute
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apparently there's an exception in there um people were concerned about link tax
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where if you've got some text and part of that
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text is highlighted because it's a hyperlink
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like check out our last review on this here that you wouldn't be able to have
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that here hyperlink without paying the tax but i think there's an exemption for
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that okay yeah because that would just break the entire that's what the internet's based on that's what google
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is based on yeah and and there is another exemption
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that allows search engines to to use your input snippets
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yeah you want to be found because that's good for your bottom line yeah but you
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don't want to be linked to and you don't want to
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lift up other platforms that are aggregators basically because they're
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just profiting off your content without paying you enough or like be used as an
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image sharing host when that's not where you're supposed to be et cetera et cetera yeah a big part of
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it is like the amount of money that a lot of music artists are not making
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from youtube that they are making from spotify so
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okay we're good opponents want these these musicians just to
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renegotiate with youtube and not kind of stain the whole internet with a shotgun
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blast yeah okay so my uh my webpage
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finally loaded so twitch chat people there's the link there you go sorry
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about the delay yeah so there's another article that's article 11. now then
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there's also article 13 which requires websites to filter user
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submissions and check them against copyrighted work that is so brutal and
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would just like crush the forum and everyone's yes yes yes any online
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platform that allowed users to post text images sounds or code
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would need to assess and filter that content
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which has a bunch of brutal implications which are nicely summarized by this like
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party this pirate party every single ugc
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site user generated content site would just be
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this is exactly why this is exactly why wikipedia was protesting ah because they
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are yeah okay exactly they're even pretty good about like exactly making
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sure that everything's all okay but like
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policing everything would be so here's a list
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can i send this to you somehow can you click on this one which one source for
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so i don't know you might call this bias because this is definitely one side of
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the argument here this is uh julia retta who represents the the pirate party the
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pirate pack you can still find good information from
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knowing is always better go down you can find good information from here scroll
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down consequences list freedom of expression limited obviously
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yeah number one independent creators harmed
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yeah and then there's all this like uh stifling of innovation and stuff because
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if okay let's say you want to have a platform that gets user-generated
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content if you need to police that then that either takes a ton of staff or
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it takes an algorithm both those things cost resources so something like this
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just solidifies incumbents and then bogs bogs small businesses down
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in regulation that they just can't handle yeah
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it's it's really interesting when
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putting a law into place is is getting people to legitimately go to a pirate
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party website and be like yeah yeah that makes sense like like but but that don't necessarily
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agree with piracy that's that's an interesting check position at this point
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surveillance risk uh due to high development costs for
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monitoring technology this will likely end up uh
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like the technology would be outsourced to some major players who make that kind
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of thing so that there be a few large players who are the gatekeepers to
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everything that's being uploaded so they have this data of what a large segment
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of the population is uploading yeah that seems to go
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okay it doesn't go against gd pr
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or gdrp i always forget which way that goes uh
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but it doesn't go against it i think it's rpg rp i also have the same thing
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yeah i always remember the gd but after that i'm like uh it doesn't go against it but i think
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it goes against the the point almost
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because the the i think i think the point is to try to reduce the amount
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that you're you're monitored online
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if you don't want to be on a certain website anymore you can ask them to
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remove all your stuff if you your those sites aren't allowed to keep
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your stuff for way too long and now it's just like filter everything
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monitor everything make sure everything is okay which
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again it doesn't technically go against it this would be allowed
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as long as it was disclosed and everything was okay and you could delete
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it if you wanted blah blah blah but
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uh it's just weird so it didn't go through for now
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yeah the the wikipedia protesting was a few days ago i think it was on thursday that
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they had their first vote but it's not over they're gonna they're basically
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going back to the drawing board they're gonna rework the proposal and then all
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of the members of european parliament get to
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vote again in september 10 to 13.
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this is a nice long weekend just yeah they get to be in a cabin together
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also disaster for posting that on the forum
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yeah that guy's legit yeah a lot of people in the chat are saying that we
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look super saturated we are super sad you're not though what
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i've been told by the people who set it up it's not actually over saturated it's
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what the colored light on the back wall looks like oh i mean that is a pretty
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that actually does look pretty realistic too this is a blue light shining on this
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blue wall that's a reddish pinkish light shining on that red wall and then
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there's pink leds behind that red wall so the walls just look crazy because
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they're they're blue and red and then has blue and red being shiny plus luke
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is just full of vitality his rosy cheeks are actually
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just full of rose or yeah rose blood bloody red ribbon outside yeah
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but you drink your milk yes yeah yeah
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yeah i'm getting through various nodding and thumbs up from it
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is everything good uh it's overexposed but we think it's
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because the independent colors of lights on the colors
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okay i can't tell because we have a gaming monitor that is not color calibrated at all so i
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have no idea what it looks like
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it looks good okay cool we're going with it yeah it's
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fine best buy is going to have this on their monitors on their showroom floor
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on all their tvs look at this
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it pops baby oh my goodness that sells tvs
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speaking of look at this the best segue ever elon musk apparently for whatever
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reason saves the world and your children
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from a cave that got flooded uh so if you guys haven't heard of it uh there's
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like i believe it's a soccer team and their coach was just kind of exploring around for
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what i don't know how this ended up happening but they were in thailand yeah
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it's a soccer team of 12 thai boys yeah and their coach yeah i don't know why
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they're doing this but they're exploring a cave that's cool outside
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extracurricular activities kind of situation they hung out too long they
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hung out too long in the cave it flooded uh and they kept on getting pushed back
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further into the cave because as it flooded more and more and more
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uh they they tried to keep getting higher ground and getting into more air
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and all that kind of stuff so they got stuck god that's way oh yeah aren't they
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like 2.5 kilometers in there now really i didn't yeah i don't know yes well
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someone else i was talking to you told me Jake said they were like six miles in
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there but the thing i read said two and a half k um which is a big discrepancy but
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regardless that's scary as man like yeah
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just having to retreat deeper into this thing so it sounds like at the very
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least the flooded sections is 2.5 k because it says it it takes even the
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most experienced divers up to five hours
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that's right to swim through the 2.5 kilometers of jagged narrow channels
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from where the how what i guess you're
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not that many atmospheres down because you're like just barely under the water
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okay it's gnarly apparently so they were reported missing on the 23rd of june
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they were discovered nine days later by a pair days later by a pair of um
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british divers yeah rescued who could do nothing yeah they just showed up and
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they're like no you can't come with us because it's too crazy of a dive like
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they have explored the possibility of getting the boys to swim out uh but none
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of the boys can even swim they don't know how to swim let alone dive
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and even if they were to dive they're trying to get them a special
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like full face diving mask because normal respirators will probably just
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get ripped off because it's like super tight so
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to explain the super tightness too uh these guys have to be well they're
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master divers for sure but they they like would at a base level have to have
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the tech certificate because there's certain points where you can't have your
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air tanks strapped to your back
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so like i i couldn't find if they had to like run them
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by their side or if they had to just like go off air for a second
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throw the tank through swim through and then hook back up i
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don't know what the situation is but this is not at all a simple dive it's
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advanced enough that tragically a
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either an ex-navy seal or current navy seal from thailand
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actually did die no diving i think on his way back i didn't
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know that yeah so and there's a ticking clock it's not
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like they can just hang out and keep bringing them food there's a ticking clock because they're in the middle of
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the rainy season which goes for like another three or four months until the
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end of october i think uh
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and there's rain forecasted for the weekend up until now there hasn't been
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much rain so the water is going to keep coming
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and they're running out of places to go in fact they might have beat they might be out of places to go
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yeah yeah uh wait wait there's more
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they're running out of oxygen the oxygen in the chamber that they're in
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is down to dangerous levels like 15 or something like that so they had 10
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rescuers with the boys who delivered food and stuff and their doctors and
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nurses the boys and they got five of those
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rescuers just to leave because they're just sucking up too much too much oxygen
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and they're like bringing oxygen tanks in to the chamber just so they can
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breathe that's pretty wild by the way guys i can't share screen
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right now because i have i have no internet um
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i'm gonna try to go on
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what i can't believe this is happening look oh good god
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okay we're still live apparently i can see it on my phone
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i connected to lte on my phone
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that's not saturated at all yeah whatever so
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so if they can't walk out so they can't swim out so then they're
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thinking maybe they could walk out so they've been pumping water out of there yeah but like freaking tons of it right
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like millions of gallons yeah
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and they've also been trying to dig down to them they've dug over 100 holes some
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of them are 400 meters deep and this is where
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elon musk comes in for two actually two of those things one he thinks he can
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pump water out faster using some like tesla battery operated thing yeah
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and two he's sending uh boring company engineers who he thinks they can dig
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better or at least help out in some way
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so so insane that he just got involved
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he's like on twitter he's like this is nuts yeah so someone messaged him like
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oh can you help with this elon help us and
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he's like i'll help in any way i can and everyone just thinks that's like oh well
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there's there's no way he can help he's saying he'll help in any way he can
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maybe he'll donate a bit and move on and everything so he's like i have access to
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the most talented digging engineers there are i'm just gonna you know ship a
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team over we'll we'll try to pump water out faster and then this was my favorite
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one uh he also discussed the possibility of inserting a nylon tube into the cave
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to fill it with air like a bouncy cap that's a long tube so that is a very
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long tube it's 2.5 kilometers presumably
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and then they could just hang out boys yeah hang out
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what yeah that just still doesn't solve the water problem if they're at the end of
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the if they're at the like the deepest chamber they can get to
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yeah maybe we can help out can we uh get some
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hardware in there have a let get they can have a land and make a video
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yeah yeah you can dive in there heck yeah
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hosted by luke i would die if that navy seal died i'm screwed oh my
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god i'm also a fairly large person so these confined spaces sounds like you
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imagine these kids were in there for nine days like before they even had
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contact having no idea if they were gonna check it out that's insane just
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drinking the rain water and not eating
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they're like all super weak when they get found holy cow
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so prayers and thoughts and all that to
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those kids at least they didn't eat each other i probably know that sounds insane
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but that's like happened yeah wasn't there like a rugby team that
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got lost in the mountains or something like a movie yeah yeah there's a movie i
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think it's called a live or there's a plane crash
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something like that yeah they referenced it in the simpsons i saw it when i was a
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kid that's all i know but that's like that was a thing
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anyways yeah more rain is expected there's a bunch of different rescue
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teams people from all over are trying to help and this has been quite documented
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so if you want to learn more about it you can check it out but yeah apparently
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elon is getting involved because that's the world right now that's how that
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works something crazy happens so elon shows up i think i think they're going
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to make it i'm pretty hot pretty hope pretty optimistic i'm really sad that that navy
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seal died you can actually see footage from inside the cave where the original
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divers who found them took a video when they were speaking to them and i think
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they even like were like face timing their families and stuff
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check it out maybe they're above the ground
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there are places where water runs uphill
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right into the next topic uganda
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all right yeah uh uganda social media is now a taxable activity
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let me take you on a uh internet spiral journey that i went on this
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afternoon when i was reading about this okay so first i went to like
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well by the way this was posted by duck dodgers on the forum which is where i started on the forum thanks duck dodgers
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i get to learn about this social media is now taxable what so
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so it turns out that what the government has done there has told the isps that
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they must block users from going to certain sites
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namely uh twitter facebook
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whatsapp tinder and dozens of others crucially tinder
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yeah and a ton of others they're blocked unless they pay this it's not really a
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subscription fee it's a per day fee of about 5 cents u.s which is 200 shillings
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i didn't know there are multiple african nations whose currency is called a
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shilling that's pirates of the caribbean stuff
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kind of cool maybe they have doubloons somewhere doubloons that would be sweet so it's
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five us cents a day i don't mean to it'll be insensitive i just i never get
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to hear the word shillingham anyway i've already i'm digging the hole i'm going to reach
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those thai kids this is getting worse
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um so it sounds like an insignificant amount
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of money to us but keep in mind that there are
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how many is it millions of ugandans who survive on less
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than a dollar per day so for this to be five cents or or like the the per capita
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income is six hundred dollars so a year this would be nineteen hundred dollars
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if you paid the five cents for every year there's also an incentive to sign
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up for a month in advance rather than paying per day okay okay
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so so that sucks and you think okay that's
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just the government trying to make some money someone in the chat which i have
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to read off my phone because what the heck is going on um it says that
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portugal is doing a similar thing right now i hope not
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but back on track there's it seems like it's like a like a money
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grabbing like the government's just gonna yeah it's just a new tax and maybe they'll use it for a better internet
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infrastructure or whatever but then i thought wait a second
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uh countries like this usually have a high amount of disparity right so
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when you see like the average per capita income
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it's probably the case that that average actually doesn't represent that many people there's probably a lot of people
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on the high end that boosts the average and a lot of people on the low end so i
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thought those poorest people who live on less than a dollar a day they're
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actually probably not affected by this they're probably not the internet users
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or they certainly won't be after they are affected by this because they won't be internet users after this so then i
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thought is this like a system of control is this like a way for people to
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not be able to go on twitter not communicate not organize themselves not
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have protests because they can't go on whatsapp they can't communicate with
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each other right so then i thought oh this is kind of tin
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hattie let's google uganda dictator
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tyrant censorship buzzwords and so i went
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of course i went to like their wikipedia and there's a huge laundry list of
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things they've done in the past including uh arresting opposition
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members hiring gangs of young unemployed
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men to harass and oppress opposition
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supporters and politicians and critically
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in february of 2016 the government ordered the mobile service providers to
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block social media platforms the government claims that platforms
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such as twitter facebook and whatsapp spread rumors and create unnecessary
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chaos the opposition has argued that the ruling was put in place to prevent the
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public from reporting irregularities in the election process and and to to note
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the the opposition thing uganda's president is serving his seventh term
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right now yeah so apparently like the the elections that they have are kind of uh
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fishy yeah so okay
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then i learned anytime you hire a gang of people to harass
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well ostensibly they were they were hired to keep the peace
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oh yeah okay yeah yeah ostensibly so
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then i found out that actually uganda put this in place after neighboring
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tanzania put in similar things which is the next topic here yes they did it a
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little bit differently uh what did they do oh yeah officially
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dubbed the electronic and postal communications regulations 2018 not act
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or anything 2018.
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there was even a parenthetical thing that i took out of there that's a huge
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name but this basically requires online content creators which includes
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traditional media websites online tv radio channels but also individual
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bloggers and bloggers and like regular people podcasters to pay roughly
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2 million tanzanian shillings which is 930 us dollars in registration and
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licensing fees so if you want to create content you have to like get
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essentially like a lot of money business license like yeah that's a ton of money
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man i wouldn't do that even for for
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like uh a more wealthy nation where like your
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average person has more wealth per capita that's still a lot of money if
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you were like an american with a thousand subscribers which is hard to
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get you might be like screw this oh yeah
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yeah so creators must uh not only pay these
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things creators must store their contributors details so let's say
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you started like a little news network whoever contributes to your site you have to store that author's details for
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12 months and have the means to identify their sources and disclose financial
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sponsors which is like super orwellian like transparency sweet but it's also
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kind of like who are the detractors who are support
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who's supporting them um cyber cafes must install survey
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financial sponsors i don't really mind that too much but
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the uh well what's what's involved in this i
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was just looking at the contributors details no that part like their address
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and stuff that part i absolutely love but the like disclosing financial
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sponsors i guess it would come down to
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uh what details they want about the financial sponsors and how they have to
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disclose it i guess but being like hey we're paid by whoever
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to do whatever i don't really see a problem with that
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but the rest of it yeah computers details for 12 months of course that
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that's not great cyber cafes must install surveillance cameras yeah and
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then there's all this vague language like failure to comply with the regulations which also forbid online
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content that is indecent or annoying or that leads to public disorder which is
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just can be anything if you don't like me yeah uh failure to comply with that is
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gonna result in a five million shilling
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or twenty two hundred dollar fine a jail
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term a jail term of not less than a year or
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both so you're screwed basically so there's
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already content creators youtubers and stuff in tanzania who have
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given up yeah so tanzania's gdp per capita like i was
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saying earlier uh 879 us dollars so you wouldn't be
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able to afford like the the average person there it
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would not be able to take a year a year license alone
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let alone if you ever screwed up that's over two years worth of income
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yeah with no other expenses at all one of their famous youtubers
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called the idea that this is like a tax the idea of using this is just like
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another form of taxation a flimsy ex a
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flimsy excuse is he just screwed then promoted by the government to restrict
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free speech uh and wait it gets even interesting
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earlier here oh one blogger not necessarily a tanzanian blogger
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uh no i think i think it actually was yeah i think i wrote one blogger but in
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the story it actually is this particular woman well i'm worried about that person
27:44
so it gets even crazier because they have their own like wikileaks there the
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swahili swahili swahili wikileaks site called uh
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jammy forums how do you say a word that ends in two eyes jamie yeah
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i don't know but they have this history of of course people upload to their
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whistleblowing site and you don't disclose who uploaded it it's just like
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people who know or whatever like they're protected right well now
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this site has to disclose the details which was of the content
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creators who contribute definitely one of the reasons why they did that yeah
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for sure yeah so now it's either well tell us who posted or get shut down
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that's scary man pretty brutal i think i have internet again which is great um
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and another thing that while you can tell that it's uh the calling it attacks
28:37
is just ridiculous is that the bogus fear there is pretty small oh yeah so
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they wouldn't be getting a significant amount of money from it no it's just a
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just a means of control yeah scary stuff
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totally uh it's kind of similar to the european
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copyright directive but just completely different
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motivations but the end result is well that's what i'm wearing away i'm not going to delve
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on this for too long because it's not technology and stuff but have you looked into the
29:05
things that were in addition in the so canada recently passed a law is it 100 i
29:11
don't think it's 100 in for a little while but essentially marijuana is like
29:14
legal and stuff and you can grow your own and blah blah blah
29:18
most of the population up here seem to be fairly happy about that but also in
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that bill there was a bunch of other things uh like your be you're now allowed to be
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pulled over without any form of cause or suspicion and like all this other oh i
29:30
didn't know that yeah you should look into it's pretty nuts um
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people are pretty upset about that and it just got passed through because
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everyone was just like oh yes a bill to make the weeds uh now legal yes i will
29:42
sign and there's a bunch of other characters you must clean james's room
29:49
as a kid like you write a note that you get someone to sign on the back it's
29:52
like you must be my slave yeah yeah yeah
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i you just sold me our soul um
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not it anyways we should uh we should we should take a little intermission from
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the everyone's trying to be evil when show
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get past the uh taxation of social services thing but
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now uganda is trying to ban vpns yeah but hey if you're if you're a viewer
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from there you can use this for a little while yeah and then until until the isp's banned it
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out brutal quote from their president too being like it's actually more expensive to have a vpn than it is just
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to pay
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yeah except you're a sketchy dude but whatever private internet access supports a variety of vpn protocols and
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types of encryption and authentication allowing you to dial in the exact level
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of privacy protection you need it supports apps for Windows macOS Android
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iOS uh in here it has Linus but i assume that means Linux
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and google chrome with support for several all the machines autocorrect to
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that yeah everything in the building i'm sure they do our personal phones have to too
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it's a rule when you get hired you have to go into your like library you can
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description or just like here
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yeah i almost tickled you oh i was like
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it's too hot in here for that it is additional features of pia include ip
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cloaking which sounds super sweet browsing anonymously which is sort of
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the point uh you can avoid data mining targeted advertising being blocked from
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social sites uh you can block unwanted
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connections which is cool advanced firewall you can unblock websites which
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is what i think a lot a lot of kids in school and stuff use it for
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because even i know some campuses if you live in the dorms and have internet to
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your dorm there are certain websites that are even blocked there and it's
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just like dude come on um and you can save money and then i think we have
33:49
Colton here for a special announcement
33:53
i see his feet ladies and gentlemen oh oh is that the shirt actually hold on
33:58
hold on that actually looks sweet this is supposed to go up a little bit more can you guys you can't just change that
34:02
now you know what ed you have to change it hey can't change that hey wayne show
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what's going on that looks great this is the ltx shirt
34:10
that's pretty cool we're gonna have another actually looks really good so
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do you guys know about ltx we have that pin
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this is the TechLinked page that's a this pin is very very good so we're also
34:21
gonna be selling i'm wearing a suit to ltx and wearing this on my lapel like a
34:25
gentleman are you going to there you go are you gonna wear a suit
34:28
i'm wearing something i won't i want to wear one of those i'm wearing nothing
34:32
what are you doing i'm getting you to talk to this anyways yeah pretty much so
34:37
ltx guys yeah yeah exactly we rehearsed this so
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lt edsel what are you doing
34:44
that's great awesome i'll sit like this and get back pain okay
34:50
hello so ltx live event i'm sure you guys have
34:54
heard about this before july 14th 10 a.m to 6 p.m you guys should come it's gonna
34:59
be fun we're gonna have uh we're going to have a 20 pc lan Corsair is going to
35:04
be there ASUS is going to be there we're going to be doing uh reviving our
35:07
triple-headed vr thing we're doing that which will be oh we're at the same booth
35:11
hell yeah all day baby nice banasho yeah exactly
35:15
so kind of trying to do like co-op games stuff there we're going to be having a
35:19
contest for whoever can get the highest score in
35:22
minesweeper will win like a brand new like a titan xp like a 1080 ti
35:28
that's sweet i used to actually play that quite often i can't enter so good
35:32
yeah we're gonna have like a bunch of systems on display it's gonna be really cool and then we're actually gonna have
35:36
merch on site to buy including the shirt for those of you that didn't get it with
35:39
your tickets and including a secret merch that very few people know about oh
35:45
yes yes oh it's gonna be secrets it's gonna be sick we're only making a
35:50
hundred is james oh it's gonna be the sickest i want one i don't know what it
35:53
is it's not that secret evolves it involves
35:56
it okay that's a spoiler all right fine uh we're also gonna have two unboxings
36:01
at the event which are also secrets um Linus doesn't even know what they are so
36:05
that should be interesting so he'll drop kind of cool we'll drop them regardless
36:08
yeah yeah everyone's gonna be there uh if you guys are coming ltx and you see
36:11
any of us come say hi come chitchat this whole point in the event is that we're
36:14
getting a picture there to hang out and chill with so it's gonna be really cool
36:17
yeah a lot of stuff on display and there's other guests
36:21
yeah other other guests so other youtubers that are probably gonna be
36:24
there is going to be jay's two cents nice steve from gamer's nexus
36:28
and barnacules nice so yeah and i'm sure i'm missing some people uh guys from
36:32
memory express are going to be there uh we should get jimmy from spectrum
36:36
glasses to come i'm probably i'm probably missing people yes yeah i know
36:39
you can ask i don't i don't yeah bring your friends so
36:43
if you want to come go to ltxexpo.com pick up your tickets and
36:47
we'll see you there people are asking if we're live streaming ltx so oh
36:52
sorry i'm really bad at this i'm going to be live streaming parts of it so uh
36:56
probably on twitch so right here we'll be streaming not the entire event but we
37:00
will do a few walkabouts and yeah capture a few things details on
37:04
that coming soon i'm sure that'll be okay great but no
37:08
replacement for being there smelling us wow
37:11
wow getting your nose right up in there pheromones you can't actually detect but
37:16
that influence your behavior yeah you'll be forever changed
37:20
by what you inhale at this event uh
37:24
well you choose what do you want to talk about next 20 minutes i don't know i
37:28
think is there anything happy is there anything that's like government
37:32
does something that isn't crushing their citizens um well this is kind of neutral
37:37
i think and i think we have to talk about it because it's pretty big many of
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you may know that earlier this week facebook's
37:43
hate speech algorithms yeah erroneously or maybe not erroneously uh
37:50
they took down a post that contained
37:54
a a excerpt from the american declaration of independence
37:59
so leading up to the 4th of july i forgot
38:02
who it was there's a facebook page in texas that was posting snippets from the
38:08
declaration so they broke it up into 12 different parts and every day they're
38:11
they're uploading a part and i think it was like 12 days of independence basically and then on day 9
38:17
or something like that they got a message saying that your content has
38:20
been taken down so the message didn't specifically say
38:24
which content okay so it could have been any excerpt but they believe
38:30
that it's this excerpt that contains their individual posts wouldn't they
38:33
know because one of them just wouldn't be there this sounds like the easiest thing to
38:37
figure out ever true you are a critical thinker
38:41
um they did eventually like apologize and put it back so but
38:46
the post that got flagged was this little part that uh refers to native
38:50
americans as merciless indian savages
38:54
so you could you can check out the full quote by googling it or like looking on
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our dock my question to you luke is
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should facebook put it back
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wow okay um that's okay one
39:13
all right technically i am american some people know this i have passports for
39:17
both countries i was born in canada i've spent every single
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residential day in canada i've never had a residence in america but i technically
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have both citizenship um and technically i'm like
39:29
sort of more american than i am canadian because i'm technically a second-class
39:33
canadian citizen meaning the government can deport me at any time for any reason
39:37
without a trial yes watch it buddy great yeah i do have to watch it because i can
39:42
be kicked out at any time um but i have a full american citizenship not like a
39:47
second class one or anything so i i'm technically like more stable there even
39:51
though i've never lived there it's weird um but i didn't know that was in there
39:56
that's a it's pretty aggro yes it's really interesting because it's
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very aggro it's not like the like we've got another story that we'll
40:04
talk about in a second where an algorithm kind of flagged something and it was obviously
40:08
just not programmed well whereas this you could argue
40:13
uh maybe should have flagged this but then because of the status of the
40:17
document that's like well like this racism is allowed
40:21
because it's an important document well certain historical things right like
40:24
it's like i this is weird we're going down a weird
40:28
path for the land show this is not technology um but i i don't think
40:32
history should be changed personally um like i don't think a book should be
40:38
edited that was published in the past
40:41
because i don't think it's a because i think knowing mistakes that happened in
40:45
the past is a valuable thing i think knowledge is more important than
40:50
other things generally so but then like i don't know because
40:54
the content isn't a bridge does that mean that it should be allowed to be
40:57
broadcast just because it isn't abridged is it
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like they don't post it and have part blurred out they don't change the
41:03
declaration of independence is still like is that that's still an important
41:06
document right it's not an important government document yeah so i don't really think it
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should no i think should be left alone so there should be a lot but is that the
41:15
same as like leaving it alone is that the same as broadcasting it
41:19
i don't know man all right so here's uh
41:22
so personally i think i think they should be allowed i think it should
41:25
depend on the in the context personally if i
41:29
given the way so facebook is its own private entity it's
41:32
not a government thing so they can do whatever they want they could they could
41:35
be they could be like you know what no one's ever allowed posting that on this
41:39
website and then people that believe in that strongly would just not use the
41:43
website it's a private thing but
41:46
with their stance on things in general i think it would depend on so this is
41:51
again i just have to give an opinion based on what i think they would do because i think they're allowed to do
41:55
whatever they want um
41:58
given their stance on things it would depend on the context
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if this person was like screw these people because it says this
42:06
in the declaration of independence then that i think facebook would then
42:10
step in and want it taken down if if they're just posting like this is
42:15
the 12 days until independence day we're going to slowly walk people through the
42:19
declaration of independence because it's fairly long and no one's going to read
42:22
this whole post in one little digestion thing but they might like it and share
42:26
it every day as we go through and then they just happened to get to that part i
42:31
personally think facebook would be fine with that because i don't think the
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intent is there i don't think there was malice
42:38
cool built into it i'm not even sure if there was mouse if they get rid of maybe
42:42
so here's an easier more cut and dry one uh i think this happened yeah the same
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week google adsense uh adsense
42:50
google oddssons decided that a web page
42:53
about a decades-old bill about sexual abuse
42:57
was adult content so and it decided that this webpage therefore should not be
43:01
able to show ads anymore so the page which has been up for six
43:05
years contains strictly legislative
43:08
information it's just all legal stuff
43:12
about a bill called the child sexual abuse and pornography act of 1986. so
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that's a lot of hot words and the algorithm was like this is bad
43:23
blocked so then the the person who runs this
43:26
website which is uh govtrack.us
43:30
which is like a legislative research and tracking website uh that person
43:35
reached out to google and tried to make an appeal to like get the site back up
43:39
and right away got a response
43:42
uh saying no denied denied the request to unflagged
43:46
the page was denied and therefore they still can't run ads
43:50
the the site gets like 37 grand a year from running ads
43:55
it's a important site this particular page because the bill is
43:59
so old doesn't get visited that much so it's kind of a drop in the bucket for
44:02
them but if it wasn't
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um so it's just funny because you can tell
44:09
because the site's been up for so long that they just made a tweak to the
44:12
algorithm yeah which made this uh get
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flagged i think it's not really a manual thing right now it's all machine
44:19
learning but still the machine learning algorithm was like you know what
44:23
i hate it child porn
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jesus yeah i'm not surprised you got picked up by something to be completely
44:31
honest it was just funny how they you can design and automate a system make these
44:37
little tweaks and it just propagates and affects so
44:41
many people and affects their bottom line
44:45
that affects their like their livelihood
44:48
but it's necessary because you just can't have humans going through all
44:51
these things it's just too much content yeah you know we should have less
44:54
content on the internet wait a second
44:58
these tanzanians are onto something we're making content right now man don't
45:02
kill our own jobs speaking of nothing because there's no segway for
45:07
this we're finally some uh some some
45:10
news that you guys are probably like very directly interested in AMD b450
45:14
boards they're coming out speaking of yeah
45:20
anyways uh AMD has still not formally announced the b450 chipset but
45:25
pre-orders and listings for b450 boards from three major motherboard
45:30
manufacturers have already appeared in austria and germany some stores list
45:35
some of these motherboards as in stock but also note that the product will be
45:39
ordered from their warehouse or distributor after an order is placed
45:42
which is essentially like they're saying that they they have that store is
45:46
confirming that they have availability it's not in that store's own warehouse
45:50
but their distributor has some and they can get it from them but it still
45:53
implies that you're gonna be able to get it in a few days so that makes it seem
45:57
like this announcement's gonna be really
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yeah the ASUS prime b450m
46:04
a seems to be available immediately and many of the boards don't appear on the
46:09
manufacturer's websites yet which is weird it could be a retail leak which
46:15
happens sometimes but it seems fairly unlikely my question is why do these
46:19
kinds of things always seem to happen in germany in austria yeah that happened not that
46:24
long ago too always germany there's always like these german sites i'm always translating
46:28
web pages yeah i don't know i mean wasn't it like
46:32
walmart canada that leaked all of bethesda's e3 stuff
46:37
i don't remember what it like uh what
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what was it ah i can't remember the name post-apocalyptic follow no
46:46
that makes sense but no rage rage rage two is it rage
46:52
the rage carry two do you remember that rage carry two yeah
46:57
it was a movie it was the sequel to carrie oh it came out in like the late
47:00
90s or 2000s yeah rage two was uh
47:04
no mic it's just one person spamming no mic but
47:08
everyone seems to be hearing what i'm saying he's right
47:12
you're luke and i'm james there's no mics here yeah none there is
47:16
absolutely no uh not a single mic mike but yeah the bethesda's rage 2 was
47:22
leaked by walmart somewhere i'm not necessarily sure where oh we're on the
47:25
wrong banner whatever it's not like that sponsor is going to be too mad at us
47:28
um yeah so i don't know that's that's cool
47:33
more uh more AMD boards coming sonos files for initial public offering
47:39
uh they filed with an offering size of 100 million dollars a placeholder amount
47:43
used to calculate fees that is likely to change i don't know would you buy sonos
47:47
stock off the bat i i because of that thing i mentioned
47:52
earlier i can't really invest in stock market because both countries want to
47:55
tax me so would you who knows uh if i could
47:59
i would want to do way more research into them because i don't know enough
48:03
about them right now i would not feel comfortable right now but i would want
48:06
to do more research it seems like uh apple and google are trying to very
48:11
aggressively take over that space and neither of them seems to be buying sonos
48:15
right now so i would be concerned well that's the interesting part about it is
48:19
they are going public almost because of that because of the competition in the
48:23
space they need money
48:27
and remember having a public offering is a fundraising activity
48:31
essentially so
48:34
i don't know i don't think i would yeah they're they're in a weird spot
48:38
right now but what's cool about their stuff though is uh later this year on
48:43
their sonos beam which just came out which is a sound bar it has the
48:46
it has alexa right now soon it's going to have alexa and google
48:51
assistant on the same device which i've i've never seen i
48:55
don't think i don't think there's a device out there that has that it'd be pretty cool there's the hail one
49:00
assistant for one task and then just hail that
49:03
hail a different uh assistance there is quite a few things that the overlap
49:07
isn't very good yeah like there's there's there's in in the venn diagram
49:11
there is definitely the outer circles yeah they're also going to be supporting
49:14
uh siri but i i didn't read specifically that siri is
49:20
going to be on the same device as these other assistants okay and i wouldn't be surprised if
49:24
there was like the apple model and then the everyone else model because i don't
49:28
see apple wanting siri to be on the same device's google assistant
49:32
there's just too much room for people to be like hey you answer this question hey you
49:38
fail at answering the same question right side by side yeah
49:43
uh speaking of
49:47
i'm just gonna go hey you uh seagate i don't know seagate announces a
49:52
mainstream SSD drive that's pretty neat the smallest model is going for seventy
49:56
four dollars which i believe is 250 gigs
50:00
and the one terabyte model is on sale for 299.
50:07
how about them steam leaks
50:11
you got to click the link though you got you got to see okay you get to see
50:15
all right which games have the most players but it but it only works for
50:19
people that have achievements outside of
50:22
games that have developer achievements specifically yeah so that's about half i
50:26
think it's actually over half 13 000 out of 23 000 yeah yeah about half of the
50:30
game is on there so you can see a list i think you went to the wrong link
50:33
actually did i you order the rs go to the rs1 darn it medium
50:38
you guys are going to see the dock for a second oh my goodness don't look at my
50:42
dock scrolls grows all right get it get it
50:47
it's leaking steam that's pretty pretty dang good actually
50:52
oh that pleases me what is it not here either oh my i
50:57
failed you ah team fortress 2 is in the lead oh hey
51:04
is this gonna work oh no man it's on here go farther where
51:08
farther down they've got this stuff there it is oh hey
51:12
team fortress 2 counter strike pub g
51:16
player estimate more people playing tf2 what really
51:20
it's all time though oh
51:23
okay
51:27
okay i don't really care
51:30
i am kind of surprised by some of this stuff like robocraft
51:35
i've never even heard of that
51:38
apparently i just downloaded this csv suite i needed it for sure
51:43
where's mod is that high wow paladins
51:48
i thought they were super dead they have a lot of players did they go free or
51:52
something well what if it was just from the time period that it was popular
51:56
was paladins ever popular i've never heard of it i've heard of it but i
52:00
didn't think it ever did very well maybe it's in it's big in a different market
52:03
or something is steem like a global thing do people use steam in india and
52:08
i think so brazil and stuff i think so
52:12
pretty sure can we let these people go on their lives now i think we can yeah
52:16
thanks for tuning into the show uh hopefully we didn't make you hate your government because uh this was a this
52:21
was an interesting rancho um
52:24
but uh yeah this is not the way it's not have a good
52:28
one bye
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you make your best sound effects
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hey thank you ltx thanks Colton hey what a
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good boy he's a good boy good boy