CPU Simulation - Can You Simulate Performance of One CPU with Another?

Linus Tech Tips ·Linus Tech Tips ·2015-05-07 · 1,242 words · ~6 min read
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0:00 in a recent video you guys called me out pretty hard it was the one here about
0:05 the performance of CPUs with varying numbers of processing cores when gaming
0:11 at the same time as performing other
0:14 intensive tasks in the background and many viewers were displeased with the
0:19 methodology that I used to obtain my numbers now of course I didn't dive
0:24 headlong into hours of testing without some kind of hairbrain theory about how
0:27 it would work so I was pretty sure my numbers were fine but one should never
0:32 be afraid to question one's own assumptions and whatever the result is
0:36 whether I was right or the critics were right I'm here to share them with you
0:41 just like soon I'll be sharing my thoughts on the upgradeability of the
0:44 iMac 27in retina 5K allinone PC that I've been using as my daily driver but
0:50 first the
0:57 intro ensure Swift Victory with Corsair
1:00 highly responsive lightweight gaming mouse the saber RGB click now to learn
1:04 more so I guess I should explain what people were so upset about before I get
1:09 too much further into this because the idea behind that video was to find an
1:16 extreme workload scenario first then see
1:19 how it affected a variety of processor configurations a fair amount of time was
1:24 actually spent developing The Benchmark scenario that I'd be using in order to
1:28 ensure that it put enough load on my
1:32 configuration to let the more powerful CPUs stretch their legs while not
1:36 putting so much load on my configuration that absolutely everything choked to the
1:41 point where it didn't function so I decided that instead of removing the
1:45 cooler swapping out the chip reapplying thermal compound then putting a new
1:49 motherboard on the test bench each and every time I needed to see how my stress
1:54 test was going to affect another CPU class I was going to Simply use the BIOS
2:00 of the motherboard that I was using to take my best processor an i7 5960x
2:05 extreme Edition and limit it artificially to the specs of the other
2:10 contenders in the test now hold on a minute lonus can you do that in the vast
2:15 majority of cases no no you can't I had
2:18 a lot of people ask why I didn't include AMD processors in that test and this is
2:23 actually the answer since the point of the video was more cores versus fewer
2:28 cores not Red Team Versus blue team anyway there was no real point and it
2:33 would be a lot more work because I'd have to swap benches and deal with
2:37 drivers in between runs every time all
2:40 right lonus so then in what situation would this artificial CPU faking
2:46 theoretically work if every CPU you're
2:49 simulating was designed with the same processor architecture so in this case
2:53 everything was Haswell based and has the same non-adjustable specs so cash memory
3:00 Technology support motherboard socket Etc and differs only in terms of the
3:05 parameters that we can change frequency multiplier hyperthreading support turbo
3:10 boost ratios Etc then they should
3:14 perform identically now I did Fudge things a little bit further than that
3:18 and simulated CPUs with completely different RAM support DDR3 versus ddr4
3:23 and different cash amounts but none of my workloads were hyper cash dependent
3:29 to my knowledge and I had already found DDR3 versus ddr4 performance to be
3:35 pretty much a non-factor outside of synthetic benchmarks in the Apples to
3:39 Apples comparison I had done previously which you can see here so I went for it
3:44 and here we are after all that Preamble ready to test whether my methodology was
3:49 okay or not cue the charts and graphs I
3:53 ran a variety of benchmarks on both a core i7
3:56 5960x that had memory channels cores hyperthreading and turbo boost adjusted
4:01 to simulate a core i5 4670k and a Pentium
4:07 g3258 and then I ran the same benchmarks on the actual chips themselves with the
4:12 only differences in theory being DDR 31866 RAM versus ddr4 2400 RAM and the
4:18 Oni cash sizes and honestly I was both
4:22 pleased with my theory because it's been
4:25 somewhat validated now cuz the results really are very close for the 46 70k and
4:31 also a little disappointed because I can see that as cash sizes really fall off a
4:36 cliff this Theory cannot be applied our
4:39 simulated g3258 outperformed our real
4:42 one by a fairly significant margin in some benchmarks so there you have it I
4:48 still stand behind the way I ran those tests because the time savings was
4:52 definitely worth the margin of error that was introduced by doing it that way
4:57 especially considering that the point of the video wasn't the exact models of the
5:00 CPUs but rather their number of cores and approximate multitasking proficiency
5:06 but I see that if I was looking for a way to save time on our normal CPU
5:10 performance reviews this obviously isn't it and we'll have to continue doing
5:15 board and Chip swaps moving forward especially if we want to measure things
5:19 that would be different no matter how close you get the specs due to Intel's
5:24 binning process like heat output and power consumption oh and speaking
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