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We've been live for a bit. We were just, you know, we were having like a a

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contemplative moment. Did you know that whole time?

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Yeah. You just let that happen? Yeah. Yeah. I was I was watching you over here on the monitor. I was just

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like, he's just so majestic.

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So, we've got a we've got a great show for you guys today. It's actually been a

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heck of a week. Um, I don't know what you've been doing, but uh I've been I've

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been traveling to the far away land of Toronto. Oh, wow.

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Canada. That's majestic.

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All manner of majestic. Who were you who were you visiting with? Tell the people.

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Dad Mau Senko. So, Senko.

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Yeah. Did you call him that? No, I did not.

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I went with Joel. I figured that was pretty sick. Okay, cool. Yeah.

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All right, so we've got a lot of great uh topics for you guys today. AMD

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announces Threadripper.

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Also, pretty sick name. The chip formerly known as Naples with a

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far more controversial name. What else we got? Uh, well, Destiny 2 is going to

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be exclusively on Battle.net, which is

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actually kind of interesting because I believe before they were saying Steam or

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just open to everything. And W to Cry

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has only collected $92,000 in ransom,

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which like considering the scope they're on is really not very much. We'll talk

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about that later. Wow. Crazy. Wild. Fantastic.

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I just almost turned off the screen. stopped the whole thing. I'm actually like my brain is pretty

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tired. Like I did I went 3 hours one way

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and 3 hours the other way in like which is like not enough to

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56 hours kind of thing. Like it's and like generally speaking I handle the

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time zone shift pretty well. But I also

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uh was up till 3:00 a.m. Eastern time.

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No, Western time still. So like

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No, don't stop the stream. Oh, no. I'm not going to stop the stream. Savage

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Jerky. Thank you, Savage Jerky. Maybe you'll wake line us up.

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Fresh books and also the tech carnival.

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Hooray. Do we know how many tickets we sold for that? Uh, people ask me all the time, and I'm

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like, I don't know, but I could I could find out. Um,

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yeah, I could definitely find out. I'm going to ask

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um I love that guy. He's awesome. All

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right. Well, why don't we now he's not doing the Wand do. Okay. Do you want to Yeah. Yeah. Every

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all is forgiven. Yeah. Okay. So, should I talk about my trip?

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Do you want to talk about what you've been up to this week or should we get into actual talk about your trip?

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Cuz I I want to know about your trip. So, I signed an NDA

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the minute I walked into the studio. Really? Yes.

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What? So, I can tell you that much.

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What? Okay. I will tell you I will tell you things that I'm allowed to tell you

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because like here's the thing is like what what are you even working on? I

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guess you can't say his his studio is like his house. So

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like Oh, so he doesn't want you to talk about like

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So I like met people and like

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So it was an NDA but like the people that were there and the stuff that was

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there and Oh yeah. Like I thought it was an NDA but what you're

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doing and I was like I sort of think I know what you're doing and it's not that. Oh, it's it's an NDA of like

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making sure that you properly respect someone's privacy who is a public figure

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and totally makes sense. So, there's a separate release that we're going to get

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signed for everything that we're publishing from the piece that we did

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and then like he gets to sign off on it. But like basically what I can say is

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that uh Joel uh Zimmerman aka Dead

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Mouse, super chill guy. Yeah, we were supposed to be there from 1

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until like the end of the workday. Um,

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we didn't leave until the wee hours of the morning just like shooting the

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and uh working on working on our video and just like

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that's actually really cool. the guy is. So there's there's a huge difference

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between people that are famous for like

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um for for like being famous I guess

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like socialites and people who are people who are famous

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for just like really really caring deeply about their craft and the guy's a

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gigantic geek like such a nerd. I've

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thought about getting his master class, not because I want to learn how to

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actually do that stuff cuz I would be horrible at it. We both know this. Um,

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but I think it would just be interesting to watch, because I like watching people

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that are that passionate about something just talk about it. Yep. And so, and it's it's what's cool

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is that no matter how basic of a thing we were talking about, because for me,

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electronic music is like explain like I'm five pretty much. I don't know much

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about the scene. I don't know much about the artists. I I had I confessed it to

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him. I was just like, "So, as part of my

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research and due diligence for this trip, I put you into Google Play Music

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and like listened to some of your music." I legitimately have listened to a lot of

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his stuff, like probably everything. And the funny thing about it is he was just

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crazy chill about even even like like for me that's pretty embarrassing but

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it's less embarrassing for me to admit it up front right

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than for him to be like you know something something something

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do you think of this song and me being like oh is it one of yours

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and it's like ghost and stuff or something

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like okay good reference there you go because Google Play Music conveniently sorts by

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popular so like so when when and stuff.

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Nope. So, when um when we were looking at some stuff that

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I can't talk about, but that is really cool and it's going to be in the video,

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like I I recognized things that was

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good. When we used to have lands, one song that we could play like on the speakers

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because my parents and my friends and me all liked it was a DeadMouse song and it

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was Strobe. Okay. I don't know that one. But like like it's it's just kind of funny that

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like out of all the music between all the different genres that all the people

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liked at these like really big lands with lots of people, it ended up being

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some Dead Mouse songs, right, that were the easiest to play.

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So So yeah. No, it was really fun. He's super cool. We uh spent the entire day

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there. Um and basically it's going to be like a studio tour, but not like most

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people would go in and do a studio tour with Dead Mouse. In fact, in some ways,

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I think me not being a rabbid fanboy

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probably helped us approach his studio a

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little bit differently because I think, you know, what would a typical person

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do? They'd walk in, they'd be like, "Can you wear the hat?"

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Right? That's kind of lame. And so, and I would actually specifically want him

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to not put the hat on. So, instead, you know, we're looking at

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ah I like I don't know what I can say and what I can't say. Like, some G

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series SS. I'm sure he'd be cool about it, but like we're looking at the tech behind

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how he does things. Um, he even does like a short So,

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because I was like, "Okay, explain like I'm completely stupid." Uh, how

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electronic music works. And he actually does like like a like a kindergarten

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level like demo, live demo. Super cool. And

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just it'll be it'll be great for anyone like me. I am personally really stoked to watch.

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electronic music is like that kind of

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like it's it's that but what does that mean and and we get this very basic

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explanation of it. It's really awesome. That's cool. Um so what were you up to?

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I was grading projects. I was trying to

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finalize contracts with people about things. Um I was modernizing something

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that I'm not going to mention. Uh what

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the heck else did I do? meeting with multiple accountants about weird really

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annoying stuff. Um, one of which like

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wants me to This is going to go a little bit too deep into personal stuff.

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Shoot. We called the stupid stream afterparty. Ah, dang it. Carry on. Uh,

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one of them, no, I told both of them that I'm a US and Canadian citizen, and

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one of them like very aggressively

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wanted me to move to the States, renounce my Canadian citizenship, and

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get convince you guys that Floatplane

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should move to the States and all this kind of stuff. What? What? And like had a giant picture of Trump on

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his wall. It was a really weird meeting. Um, yeah, it was a lot of weird stuff

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happened this week. That's probably how I'd frame that to be completely honest.

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But yeah, there you go. Okay. Um, sure. Anyway,

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tried out Okay, I actually tried out a really wicked keyboard. Okay.

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Uh, it's a pre-release keyboard from Wuing and we're making a video on it, but it's

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the optical key switches where it's like an analog gradient as you go down, so

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you can do like steering wheel driving. We finally got one of those in. I think

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we requested one like ages ago, forever ago, and they said they'd they

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didn't want to send me an early one cuz they were like, "We want to send you one when it's done so you can see it when

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it's ready." And it's still an early one because I asked forever ago. I think

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around like Computex last year and Yeah.

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So, whatever. It's Wuing like like Wing,

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not Wuang. Did I say Wuang? No, you didn't. Yeah. Okay.

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But Twitch chat, it's like Wuang. No.

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No, it's not a Wu Tang keyboard.

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Get out of here.

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Oh, I was making the wings behind this. Yeah. No, he can he can he can he can

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go. He's dismissed. All right. Yeah, let's So, this was

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originally posted on the forum by Doc Swag.

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I have more to talk about with Floatplane, but I was thinking of lining it up after

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or not. Well, I also I want to line it up for when we do the little bit of a teaser

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thing. Okay. Sure. Okay. All right, AMD.

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Oh, what? Oh. Oh, did we move the we

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moved the HDMI duads around? Hold on. What?

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I'll be right back. Okay. Uh, should I talk about it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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AMD will be introducing stuff called Threadripper. Ryzen Threadripper. The

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they're AMD. Sorry. They will have 16

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cores and 32 threads. That's why they're called the Threadripper, which is just

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absolutely ridiculous. I believe there's a couple different Yeah, there will be

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up to nine different Thread Rippers. These are rumors. The 1998X

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and 1998 with 16 cores. The 1977X and

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1977 with 14 cores. 1976X and 1956X

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and 1956 all have 12 cores. And then the

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1955X and 1955 with 10 cores. Why are

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they making this so complicated? It's a little messy. Okay, it's really

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messy. Um, but having it be AM4 and

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being able to get 16 cores is pretty sick.

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So, uh, this is all this is all Oh, so

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these are claims from WCCF tech, just to be clear.

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Um, wait, hold on. And they're also

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saying that these Threadripper CPUs won't be compatible with the AM4 socket,

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which sports 1331 pins, uh, but will demand a massive

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4,094 pins. Does it have a picture of it? Was that

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the Epic thing that was epic? Um, although it wouldn't

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surprise me, it wouldn't surprise me if Threadripper

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is um will look the same as Epic and uh

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fit in the same socket. So much like what Intel does with their high-end

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desktop, so their 2011 V3s and their

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Xeon platform, which also fits in socket 2011 V3. I'm expecting AMD to have their

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epic line of server chips and their Threadripper line of high-end desktop

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and/or workstation chips exist on the same socket. So that'll allow them to

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have more PCIe lanes, uh more pins for interfacing with more cores, uh up to I

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believe it is six channel memory.

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I'll try to find that. I read that wrong and thought it was on a different socket. Sorry guys.

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Um six I can't remember. Is there eight

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channel memory or something stupid like that? I can't remember. I think it's eight channel memory actually now that I

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think about it. Um, and then the other

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the other thing is that uh what's so

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what's okay so what's interesting about this to me is that the way that Intel

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differentiates their Xeon processors on LGA 20113 and their uh their Core i7

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processors on LG 20113 is a couple of things and the main ones are dual socket

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support. So I would expect that that

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will continue to be a differentiator for AMD. But the other thing that Intel does

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to keep them separate from each other is support for ECC registered memory on

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Xeon. 16 channel DDR4 memory. 16 channel. I think that's 16 channels

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to the dual uh wait 16 channel. Wow. Okay. Well

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maybe uh maybe Twitch chat is epic.

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So that's the epic. So for 30 if you want 32 dims.

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So yeah. Um but if the Epic is on the same platform.

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Yeah. I guess that that could be another way that they differentiate them,

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right? So yeah. So rumor rumor there will be up

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to nine Thread Rippers. I really I kind of hope they just call them Ryzen 9 to

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make life a little bit easier. And I I I

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really am not sure what I think of these convoluted kind of names for them.

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The 1998X and 1998.

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Um, tell me this. 16 cores

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on a desktop. What's the value here

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if you want to run like four

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Lime Tech systems on one system? So,

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I'll let you in on a little secret. I've chatted with the Lime Tech boys and u so

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far virtualization on Ryzen is not a great

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experience, but Okay, go ahead. Carry on. Okay. Um um

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streaming to a lot of places at one time

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at a lot of different like output resolutions. Sure.

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And for some reason, you don't have like a separate box handling that.

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Yeah. Okay. All right. What else you got?

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Not much. Cinebench. Sure.

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Amazing Cinebench. The best Cinebench. Um, so we actually

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did a demo a little while ago. 3D rendering.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, so like workstation.

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Workstation. But he wasn't saying workstation. Yeah. Cuz I like I'm I'm talking like

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competition with high-end desktop. Like to me, I'm kind of looking at Thread

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Ripper going this is seems like a very niche product right now because Ryzen 7

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already goes all the way up to eight quite high performance cores which for

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desktop workloads like it's about like um like it's about like talking about

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how your how high performance your SSD is when it requires Q depths of 16 in

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order to even you know differentiate itself from a low-end SSD. Like that's

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what we're talking about. We're talking about a product with all this theoretical power, but that a desktop

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workload um pretty much wouldn't touch.

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And to be clear, I am not complaining.

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The fact that AMD is coming in and putting pressure on Intel about core

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counts is great. But right now, I think the sweet spot is just six cores. So, a

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lot of people in chat are naming a lot of things that you could do with it that aren't the scenarios that Linus is

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talking about. A lot of what people are listing are workstation stuff. I don't remember all work.

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One of them was like SETI at home and stuff. That's not a

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which is like that's not necessarily workstation. No, but it's not really uh like it's a

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it's it's it's more like a power virus. It's less like a an actual thing that

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you're sitting at your computer doing. Yeah. To be clear, it has a value, but

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most people remember we're talking about people saying like cryptography and

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stuff. Who's actually doing that at home? And like you're probably doing with a

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GPU and GPUs are a thing.

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Yeah. Um so another guy said Bitcoin mining, but like again, yeah, I go with a graphics

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card. Yeah. Or uh don't they have like a

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video rendering? I'm I'm out of date on the whole Bitcoin thing.

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Jake's trying to convince me to do like another Bitcoin. Still, you still kind

00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:37.280
of just want to use your video card, though. Yeah. Oh, is it still just video cards?

00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:42.400
Okay. Yeah, I was just like I think I like I could be

00:17:39.280 --> 00:17:44.880
misinformed. So, basically what I what I

00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:51.679
see as being positive about this is that it's putting pressure on Intel to

00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:55.679
finally give us more than four cores. And it's putting uh it's not apparently.

00:17:53.919 --> 00:18:01.120
Apparently, I'm wrong. Oh, GPUs are not a thing.

00:17:57.360 --> 00:18:04.120
Well, no, they still are.

00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:04.120
But

00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:14.480
yeah, I'm not sure. Um, okay. Now, let's talk about the chip

00:18:09.840 --> 00:18:17.520
formerly known as Naples. So,

00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:20.960
here's what I don't get. Why is it that

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companies that have great code names

00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:28.799
like Zen Architecture and

00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:30.960
Naples product code name, which is like

00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:36.080
inoffensive, unoffensive? It's not offensive. What's offensive about Epic?

00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:42.000
It's stupid. Yeah. Okay. It's like It's like you're you're

00:18:39.679 --> 00:18:46.160
marketing this to like data center professionals.

00:18:43.679 --> 00:18:51.000
Why are you calling it epic? Why don't you just call it elite while you're at

00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.000
it?

00:18:51.679 --> 00:18:56.799
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You said you said

00:18:54.960 --> 00:19:02.559
inoffensive, though. Okay. No, epic isn't offensive.

00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:04.880
It's not offensive. It's like um it's

00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:11.039
just a little silly. I mean, to be clear, it's not like I

00:19:07.360 --> 00:19:12.960
necessarily have a better answer. And

00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:17.600
like it's possible they would have wanted to call it Zen server or

00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:21.520
something like I don't know what they wanted to call it but there's there's

00:19:19.520 --> 00:19:25.520
always complications around you trademark infringement and copyright and

00:19:23.520 --> 00:19:31.120
all that kind of stuff. So you know maybe that was the only thing left. Um

00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:38.240
but unless it like stood for something really cool then I I don't really I

00:19:35.280 --> 00:19:42.720
don't really get this as like a um as an enterprisegrade product.

00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:46.799
Now, with that said, we should we got to straw pull this because I was going back

00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:51.360
and forth with another with another journalist this morning actually on in

00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:55.760
Twitter DMs and uh we were kind of debating debating this whole this whole

00:19:53.600 --> 00:19:59.280
thing. You know what? Okay, I'm not going to say what side

00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:04.240
anybody was on, but it was uh Ian from Antech. We were chatting about it and

00:20:02.080 --> 00:20:11.200
the other side of the argument that got brought up was, "Okay, well, hold on a

00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:14.400
minute. What if your typical like data

00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:16.480
center, you know, purchaser,

00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:22.160
you know, is goes home and watches anime and like

00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:25.440
plays video games and like thinks that

00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:27.440
things are epic and you know, like is it

00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:31.919
really that far off? I don't think it would be that far off.

00:20:29.679 --> 00:20:37.360
Okay, so let's let's let's just straw pull this epic. Um,

00:20:35.280 --> 00:20:41.679
you know what? At the same time, personally, if I was purchasing this, I

00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:44.080
would worry about this being on an invoice that I would be handing to

00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:48.480
someone. Okay. Okay. So, cuz I would be like,

00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:53.600
maybe they just think I'm buying it cuz it's cool. It doesn't sound like

00:20:51.760 --> 00:20:58.240
it sounds flashy and it sounds like something in Toys R Us. It doesn't sound

00:20:55.360 --> 00:21:01.679
like serious infrastructure hardware. You know what I mean?

00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:06.559
Yeah. But, you know, with that said, it's not like some companies haven't had

00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:10.960
a ton of success with that. Oh, definitely. The red cameras,

00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:14.000
the red dragon, the red epic, while we're at it, the red weapon.

00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:16.960
Yeah. But then, like, at least they spelled it right.

00:21:16.159 --> 00:21:22.000
They spelled it. Like, I feel I feel like But seriously, I feel like you'd be more positive about

00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:25.760
this if they put an I there instead of a Y. Like, would you like it more if it

00:21:23.760 --> 00:21:29.280
was spelled right? Cuz a big part of your defense this

00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:32.320
whole time is that it's been silly. I'm going to be honest. No, I wouldn't like

00:21:31.679 --> 00:21:39.200
it better. Interesting. Now that they've gone down the path of

00:21:35.360 --> 00:21:41.440
Ryzen being R Y.

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Okay. So, every the second letter just always has Nope. That's not even the

00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:47.679
second one. The eyes. K. R Y. And like

00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:50.960
so lame. It it Well, yes, but

00:21:50.080 --> 00:21:55.280
I hate that. But if you're good, I hear what you're saying. Be consistent. I I got you. I got you. I

00:21:54.159 --> 00:22:00.960
just hate that. Okay. So, so far most professional Yeah. are saying

00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:04.480
I'm on and that makes sense because I'm on the unprofessional to neutral side of

00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:08.240
things. I don't really care. But I would a part of me would be like gh like I

00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:13.120
might have to defend this to someone cuz they're going to be like why did you buy something called an epic?

00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:15.760
Why are you buying epic processors like like we just need some infrastructure

00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:19.360
stuff. What are you doing? And I'd have to be like gh okay like uh

00:22:17.679 --> 00:22:23.120
epic is really good cuz it has a lot of threads and it's cheaper and it has a

00:22:21.120 --> 00:22:26.400
lot of memory bandwidth and then by then their eyes glaze over and hopefully they

00:22:25.120 --> 00:22:30.880
just sign off on PO. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, everything's fine. But like, that was an

00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:36.159
unnecessary amount of communication that had to happen. Yeah. And you know, like the stupid

00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:40.640
thing is like we're probably going to we're probably

00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:45.120
we're probably going to all like agree that it doesn't matter anymore in a

00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:51.520
number of years. But some someone named Lionus Rockin Mandals

00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:56.240
in the chat. Um I don't know what's going on there, but said no because

00:22:53.679 --> 00:22:59.679
Intel owns the I letter for processors and like obviously like they don't own

00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:04.640
it. But that's an interesting point. They might be trying to stay away from the I in anything.

00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:09.320
There are lots of words that don't have I's in them. Yeah. Like blind.

00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:16.360
What? I'm genuinely confused.

00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:25.600
No eyes. Oh. Oh.

00:23:21.840 --> 00:23:27.919
Oh, you can have eyes and be blind.

00:23:25.600 --> 00:23:30.480
Twitch is booing so hard. It's just like boo.

00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:34.480
But that doesn't even make sense cuz you can be blind with eyes still. You don't

00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:38.880
have to like have your eyes have been removed to be blind.

00:23:36.159 --> 00:23:41.840
Oh, I'm terrible. Ah, I should Yeah, I should just end it all now. Um

00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.039
Oh my god. Okay, so at any rate,

00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:52.080
that was brutal. Let's talk Let's talk about the chip formerly known as Naples. Okay, I was

00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:53.600
right. 8 channel DDR4 16 channel DDR4.

00:23:52.080 --> 00:23:57.679
What are these articles? So, single for EP,

00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:03.520
now known as Epic. Single socket processor scales up to 32

00:24:01.440 --> 00:24:07.280
cores. And as far as I know, there will be dual socket variants as well.

00:24:05.520 --> 00:24:14.559
Oh, that's fancy. are we getting are we getting some I have I am in touch they want to know

00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:17.760
so so basically what um what uh oh I

00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:19.919
don't know how much of this I can say um

00:24:17.760 --> 00:24:24.559
okay what I can say I can talk generally about server hardware generally speaking

00:24:22.159 --> 00:24:29.120
if someone's going to seed you server hardware they're going to be like what

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:33.039
are you going to do with this because if my answer is we're going to run in a

00:24:31.360 --> 00:24:39.279
bench they're going to be like cool go buy one

00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:43.600
Um, so if we come up with, for me, I want to come up with a really cool

00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:47.279
project. So I want a couple of 32 core

00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:49.039
epics for a total of 64 cores and I want

00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:52.240
to figure out something completely bananas that we can do with it. So

00:24:51.360 --> 00:24:57.200
assuming that this What about speed transcoding YP9 8K

00:24:55.039 --> 00:25:01.760
footage? Sure, dog. Like you So there's that.

00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.799
That would be really cool. I had another idea. That would be fun. Um is is that like

00:25:05.120 --> 00:25:10.400
something that you so does does that would be wonderful scale

00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:15.760
with more CPU cores basically infinitely? Uh there's we're I still talking to

00:25:13.679 --> 00:25:18.720
boiler about it. Boiler wants to do this thing which completely makes sense and

00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:22.960
I'm totally on board but we can't do it right now because we don't have the infrastructure right now but it's like

00:25:21.360 --> 00:25:25.600
distributed transcoding where you like slice up the video and then transcode it

00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:30.320
in a bunch of different places on a bunch of different servers with a bunch of different cores. But if we had a 64 core machine would

00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.760
that be unnecessary? Maybe do it in one place, right?

00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:36.799
I don't know. It's still I was talking to Boiler. Apparently, it's like 30

00:25:35.360 --> 00:25:41.440
times harder. Yeah, because key frames. But then if you just have like a

00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:43.520
monstrous computer then

00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:48.320
maybe low. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, I'd be totally down for

00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:52.480
that. And then one of the ideas that I wanted to look at is if they've got if

00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:57.039
they've got virtualization sorted out a little bit more, and to be specific, I'm

00:25:54.320 --> 00:26:02.559
talking about uh KVM. So, Red Hat KVM because that's what Unrade uses. I think

00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:05.679
it would be amazing to get my hands on

00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:08.159
like a a multi-GPU barebone server much

00:26:05.679 --> 00:26:12.320
like what we did for uh 10 gamers one CPU

00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:19.360
is just like yes exclamation mark and what get this what I'm thinking is

00:26:15.760 --> 00:26:23.840
the entire editing den running off of

00:26:19.360 --> 00:26:26.480
one tower six editing six 10 core

00:26:23.840 --> 00:26:31.039
editing workstations off of a single tower Nice.

00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:34.240
So, that's kind of something that I have in mind for what I'd like to do with it.

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:41.200
So, I'm going to I'm going to try and come up with some cool projects, but um

00:26:37.600 --> 00:26:43.440
yeah, basically it's this this thing is

00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:51.760
unbelievable. So, 8 core memory up to 16 dims per CPU. Um

00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:54.640
they've got uh Epic provides up to 128

00:26:51.760 --> 00:26:59.919
PCI Express 3.0 no lanes allowing you to connect more GPUs directly to the CPU

00:26:57.600 --> 00:27:04.799
and that's really important for machine learning type applications. We've got

00:27:01.600 --> 00:27:07.760
our unboxing of SFUS the fastest

00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:13.440
supercomput in Canada. So I I went down there and they've got they've got a ton

00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:16.400
of GPU nodes and they would love to have

00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:20.240
the GPUs connected directly to the PCIe lanes on the CPU. In fact, we were

00:27:17.760 --> 00:27:24.640
talking about that for it's in my notes uh but I don't remember exactly what

00:27:22.159 --> 00:27:29.919
workload specifically it was where intergpU communication is incredibly

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:33.840
important and the more hubs that you have to pass through the worse. And then

00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:36.799
I I even talked to it's so cool talking to like these highle architect guys. I'm

00:27:35.760 --> 00:27:40.880
like, "Okay, well, what about Envy Link?" And he's like, "Yeah, the cost

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:44.720
just wasn't right for what we're doing." And it's it's all these kinds of

00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:48.960
tradeoffs where normally as a consumer, you hear about this crap and you've got

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:52.880
NVIDIA on a stage with freaking wood screws and whatever it is that they're

00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:57.440
talking about going, "This is the future of blah blah blah." But then, you know,

00:27:55.760 --> 00:28:01.760
to us that this is all totally unattainable stuff. Whereas you're

00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:08.000
talking about people who are working on data centers that are in the value of 10

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:11.200
to 20 million where they are actually

00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:13.279
taking like a $2 million solution and a

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:17.279
$3 million solution and evaluating it the same way that we would like two

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:21.120
different laptops. Yeah. But that they're just working on a

00:28:19.360 --> 00:28:24.960
different scale. It's all the same conversations. It's like do I want to

00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:28.480
pay this much more for this much more performance increase? and they just for

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.320
their design it didn't end up making sense and uh and it was going to add

00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:36.000
some cost and I don't know the exact numbers so there's no like ND8

00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:42.880
information that I could hope to give you I just know that they didn't use it and they opted for these uh they opted

00:28:40.320 --> 00:28:47.679
for certain GPU nodes some of the GPU nodes for certain workloads are

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:50.559
connected directly to the CPUs and some of them are not

00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.919
depending on what they're needed for and these ones are higher cost I was just like oh cool

00:28:53.120 --> 00:28:59.679
that's pretty fancy you guys are so baller I love

00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:02.000
Um, so Epic is expected to launch before

00:28:59.679 --> 00:29:07.600
the end of June. You can tell AMD is in full-on crisis mode about their stock uh

00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:09.679
dropping what was it two weeks ago. Oh my goodness, we have so much stuff

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:15.440
coming. We have stuff. Please just wait. We have

00:29:13.120 --> 00:29:18.880
so much stuff. Um, even Radeon Technologies Group was

00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:24.799
showing off stuff. So, this was originally posted by PC Gamer 324 on the

00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:28.320
forum. The original article here is from

00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:29.919
uh oh three. Did I say three? Okay. No,

00:29:28.320 --> 00:29:35.600
digital trends. Here we go. AMD's Radeon Vega Frontier Edition is

00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:39.080
the most powerful graphics card yet according to AMD.

00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:50.559
All right. So, the numbers put forth by AMD are as

00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:53.440
follows. It'll have 64 next generation

00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:58.240
compute units. So that's 13 teraflops of peak single precision 32-bit compute

00:29:56.080 --> 00:30:03.120
performance, which should put it in the neighborhood of NVIDIA's top cards. I

00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:08.240
think their top card is 12. Uh, and that's a Quadro

00:30:05.360 --> 00:30:13.760
uh P6000. Don't quote me on that, but I'm trying

00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:17.919
to look this up as quickly as I can. Uh,

00:30:13.760 --> 00:30:19.760
Quadro P6000. Yeah, 12 teraflops for

00:30:17.919 --> 00:30:24.799
their top-of-the-line Quadro, which is about a $5,000 graphics card. What else

00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:28.080
do we know about it? It I wasn't sure about all the stuff you

00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:34.159
said cuz I was checking in with something. Uh 16 gigs of HBM2 memory. So, that's

00:30:31.600 --> 00:30:37.039
pretty impressive on a super wide 2048 bit bus.

00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:41.120
Have you Have you shown them the Shroud? Uh the Shroud looks freaking sick.

00:30:39.840 --> 00:30:45.120
Yeah, AMD finally gets it on the Shroud.

00:30:43.600 --> 00:30:48.559
Although, if it's like plastic and kind of cheesy looking, then I really don't know if that's going to be that

00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:54.559
impressive. To be fair, the last one that they came out that was plastic and cheesy looking,

00:30:51.760 --> 00:30:57.200
once it was in a case, it was actually a little hard to tell,

00:30:56.080 --> 00:31:04.080
right? Okay. Fair. Still, but like not amazing, but it wasn't that bad. Um, so they're saying

00:31:01.760 --> 00:31:10.559
that Vega's memory architecture can access terabytes of memory. And we've

00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.399
actually seen them kind of move beyond

00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:18.080
the like the memory that's like HBM2 or GDDR

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:23.120
memory that is soldered to the board. And uh what was that uh what was that

00:31:20.399 --> 00:31:28.320
professional card that was using SSDs? Like it was using NAND in order to have

00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:33.600
I I forget how much memory it was on it. I'm sorry you guys. I wish I had like a

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:37.919
more exact uh set of talking points for this, but they were showing it off at

00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:42.320
CES and uh the idea was that they were using NAND flash in order to

00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:46.320
dramatically increase the amount of of the basically the size of the project

00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:50.799
that you could work on because it's still faster since you've got a nice

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:54.480
lightning fast interface than trying to go out to like a scratch disc or

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.840
something. So, apparently AMD is claiming that they've done several

00:31:55.919 --> 00:32:04.799
benchmarks with it. And the Vega Frontier Edition is apparently 70%

00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.440
faster in Solid Works.

00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:12.080
Okay, which is like pretty insane. Another program that I haven't personally heard

00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:17.120
of called Katya, I'm hoping I'm saying that correctly, is it's 27% faster in

00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:25.120
Okay, which is pretty wild. I mean, AMD has

00:32:20.399 --> 00:32:26.559
been known from time to time.

00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:31.600
Sorry, I didn't mean to get an ice cube in my mouth and now,

00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:36.960
okay, it's gone now. So, AMD has been known to cherrypick benchmarks from time

00:32:33.919 --> 00:32:39.440
to time. Um,

00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:42.640
but still, it's promising and like that happened last time. You

00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:47.760
just reorganized everything. Control Z that. um that happened last time with

00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:49.440
their CPUs to a certain degree, but then

00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:55.120
a big part of what they're claiming did end up being true. That's right. And what we do know based

00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.480
on that it's not getting completely stomped on is that we're going to have

00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:04.159
competition. Yeah. At least until NVIDIA trickles down Volta

00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:06.159
and like Yeah, fair. But uh the like

00:33:04.159 --> 00:33:10.320
with their CPU, what they were claiming did completely end up being true. Yeah.

00:33:08.159 --> 00:33:12.240
So if you're into Solid Works, there's one really cool thing that just

00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:17.919
happened. Yeah. But again, it depends on how you're benchmarking that specifically,

00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:21.840
what kind of projects you're working on, what you have in Solid Works at that time.

00:33:19.679 --> 00:33:26.320
This is basically the AMD show at this point. Laptops are coming. Ryzen Mobile,

00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:30.000
Ryzen Pro, the original article is Trusted Reviews. Let's go ahead and pull

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:34.080
that up. Don't worry, we'll get through this eventually. Ryzen finally comes to

00:33:31.919 --> 00:33:38.720
laptops. This I'm actually excited about. I would love to have like a six

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:41.440
or an 8 core laptop. That would be awesome. I don't know if they're going

00:33:40.159 --> 00:33:45.120
to be able to get the power low enough and I haven't actually looked that

00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:50.640
closely at this yet, but like six core laptop would be freaking awesome. AMD is

00:33:48.320 --> 00:33:55.279
claiming 50% more CPU performance than its previous 7th generation APUs. Lordy,

00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:59.760
I would hope so. Yeah, and a lot of these claims are a little

00:33:57.919 --> 00:34:04.240
whimsical, I think, cuz they're from kind of, you know, older stuff. So, 40%

00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:07.919
better graphics performance and a 50% cut in power, but you're jumping quite a

00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:12.879
few categories there. quite a few generations um of improvement that

00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:16.879
Intel's been making. So, they might not be leaprogging Intel, but I guess the

00:34:14.560 --> 00:34:20.560
promise here is that they're going to be competitive. And then they also

00:34:18.720 --> 00:34:25.280
announced Ryzen Pro, a version designed for business PCs.

00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:30.720
Wow. So much actually kind of weird. Like I I get it, Pro Professional, but

00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:33.280
for a long time Pro has been like a gaming thing. Yeah. Like higher just like higher

00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:38.480
performance. Yeah. So that's actually a little bit weird.

00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:44.800
Um, but oh well. Like I feel like Ryzen's

00:34:40.879 --> 00:34:47.359
smart or like even just Ryzen business

00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:50.159
would have been cool. So come back up a little bit.

00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:54.960
Did it help them to kind of announce all this stuff?

00:34:52.240 --> 00:34:59.839
Kind of looks like it. Um, I mean they haven't quite recovered from

00:34:57.680 --> 00:35:02.960
uh this was when they did their uh their quarterly earnings report, right? Yeah.

00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:08.079
Okay. Well, yeah. We'll see how that goes. I mean, I don't know what here's the

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:11.200
thing. I don't know what people were expecting

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.240
from that quarterly earnings report. Like, if I That's fairly accurate to what they

00:35:13.680 --> 00:35:19.200
guessed. If I invested in tech companies, I I

00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:23.359
would actually love to know what our viewers think. Like, should I be allowed to invest in tech companies? Cuz I I'd

00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:26.400
love to I'm allowed to, but I have to disclose

00:35:25.680 --> 00:35:31.119
it. Okay. Yeah. But like, it's it's a matter of

00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:35.680
whether they will allow me to. I I would have I would have probably

00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:41.119
bought some AMD right after that drop because it was the drop was based on

00:35:38.240 --> 00:35:46.480
people having completely unrealistic an unrealistic reaction to what AMD has

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:52.960
been doing over the last quarter. It's like Ryzen 7 and even Ryzen 5 are the

00:35:50.560 --> 00:35:58.000
tip of the iceberg, you guys. That's like the enthusiast gamer chip and then

00:35:55.839 --> 00:36:01.680
the like slightly less enthusiast gamer chip. Where they're going to move volume

00:35:59.359 --> 00:36:05.440
is Ryzen 3 and where they're going to make margin and start to be profitable

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:12.320
is going to be products like Threadripper and Epic. So I yeah I don't know

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:14.480
what people were asking for there. Um,

00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:18.800
not only that, but you know, any new product is going to take some time to

00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:23.599
ramp up in terms of yields, in terms of having stock on the shelves, in terms of

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:28.640
uh the platform maturing a little bit. I mean, I don't know if you guys noticed,

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:32.160
but you didn't hear from us, run out and

00:36:28.640 --> 00:36:35.280
buy Ryzen in the first 6 weeks because

00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:37.119
it was it it was promising. And we were

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:41.200
confident that AMD and their partners like ASUS and Gigabyte and MSI, we were

00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:46.480
confident they were going to get all this stuff addressed,

00:36:43.359 --> 00:36:49.040
but it wasn't yet. And when you buy a

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:53.599
computer, it needs to work on the day you buy it. So, I mean, a lot of people

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:57.359
criticized us for doing a Core i5 build guide uh shortly after the launch of

00:36:55.359 --> 00:37:03.280
Ryzen, but the reality of it was when we were filming that, we weren't ready to

00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:07.119
say go buy a Ryzen PC yet. Now to be

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:09.280
clear, it has improved a lot like a lot.

00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:15.200
So I am expecting over the next quarter or two these kinds of results to change

00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:21.359
in a big way. Sorry. Oh, no problem. Uh oh, they want

00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:25.359
me to do a straw poll. Okay, you know what? I I'm going to I'm going to do a

00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:29.720
straw poll whether I should be allowed to invest in tech companies.

00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:29.720
Oh,

00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:37.280
see like Yeah, I don't know. I I don't know.

00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:41.359
So, to be clear, I actually Oh, this is something I've been meaning to talk

00:37:38.240 --> 00:37:44.960
about on W show for quite some time. Um,

00:37:41.359 --> 00:37:47.440
we are working on like a private deal

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:52.160
with a much much smaller tech company. So, maybe I'll talk about it after our

00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:55.119
after our ad break. But, um,

00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:58.880
what is actually bad about that? Well, it creates a potential conflict of

00:37:57.200 --> 00:38:02.640
interest. Like, if I own Oh, yeah. Then then yeah,

00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:06.720
if I own a bunch of NVIDIA stock as a viewer I cuz I thought I thought we

00:38:04.720 --> 00:38:12.720
were looking at the like insider trading side of things. No, I don't think that's an issue. Um

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:17.599
because I can just not buy when I know anything. And that's

00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:23.040
pretty easy to do because I think you know if you were to just go, okay, the

00:38:20.160 --> 00:38:26.000
embargo's up 3 minutes later now that everyone knows all the same things I

00:38:24.640 --> 00:38:29.680
know go by. Go by. I mean, you can you could kind of

00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:34.079
beat the rush on that kind of thing if you wanted to. Is it an advantage? Yes.

00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:38.560
But is it against the law? As far as my understanding goes, no, it wouldn't be,

00:38:36.160 --> 00:38:46.000
right? So, as a viewer, I would say no. You would say no. Go ahead and cast your

00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:47.680
vote. Um cuz so for me, where I where

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.079
I've kind of drawn the line already because like I said, we are working on

00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:56.560
an investment deal with a really really small company. Um, so where I kind of

00:38:54.480 --> 00:39:02.720
draw the line is that if it's stuff that we cover um

00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:07.280
competiti like uh the competitors of like if it's stuff where it's kind of

00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:13.440
one option or the other and where I'm in a position to inflate the appearance of

00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:19.280
let's say Intel versus So would you be declaring in every single video that you

00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:23.440
cover this one mono company on? I'm saying mono because you're not covering

00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:24.640
other ones in its space that you have ownership.

00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:30.720
No, I think because to a certain degree that makes every single video an ad.

00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:36.640
Yeah, I think the disclosure uh regulations are such that you talk about

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:39.200
it only in the context of talking about

00:39:36.640 --> 00:39:44.320
that company. So let's say I owned a bunch of shares of Intel. If we are

00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:51.359
going to talk about an Intel news story, I need to have a thing up that says um I

00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:54.000
disclaimer I am long Intel or something like that. Like you have to clarify your

00:39:53.040 --> 00:40:01.599
your position. You say I am long Intel. Yeah, long Intel. So So I am I I have a

00:39:58.640 --> 00:40:04.880
long-term investment in Intel. Whereas you would say I'm short Intel. If you

00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:09.920
think Intel's going to have a big quarter and you want to kind of put in

00:40:07.359 --> 00:40:14.000
some money, grab it, back out. Yeah. So, long or short? Yeah.

00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:17.200
Um, and I I think medium, but I'm not sure. Like, I'm not an expert on this

00:40:15.359 --> 00:40:19.920
stuff. I've only actually bought stock like twice.

00:40:18.560 --> 00:40:23.599
Um, so, so there you have it. Uh, we should

00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:28.160
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All right. Ah, yes.

00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:56.800
It's nice. Savage jerky time. Yay! I get Reaper

00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:02.079
again. Well, you don't have to eat Reaper. You could have the uh

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.040
You could have the ghost pepper buffalo sauce. I'm going to do ghost pepper

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:08.000
buffalo sauce today. Yeah, I'm doing it. Which one's hotter? I don't remember.

00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:12.160
Is that six or five? Take that one. No, take that one. No, not taking the reaper. I don't I

00:43:11.520 --> 00:43:17.839
don't want to do the reaper. This one's your favorite one, right? Uh no, no. All of my uh I the maple the

00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:23.280
maple bacon one. Maple bacon. Yeah, the maple bacon one. I just ate it

00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:26.720
all after the show. I really like the Mojo habanero. That's

00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:33.680
my favorite one. Yeah. So, good amount of spice. You can tell it's like the second or

00:43:31.040 --> 00:43:39.839
third Savage jerky spot when it's like the stuff that we absolutely cannot

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.480
resist is just all gone.

00:43:39.839 --> 00:43:48.520
Okay. Well, this is my favorite one, but he hid it from me,

00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:48.520
so I couldn't have any more of it.

00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:56.599
Are you good so far? You had the ghost pepper.

00:43:56.640 --> 00:44:02.680
So, you didn't have quite the hottest one. This one's actually still sealed.

00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:09.280
The ghost pepper and buffalo sauce

00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:11.440
is hot enough for me. But basically,

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:14.720
you want some ghost pepper? Jake does really good with spice.

00:44:13.359 --> 00:44:21.760
I would probably throw it. He's he's he's very spice tolerant. All

00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:24.160
right. So, Savage Jerky.

00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:26.640
See that one? Where? Where'd it go? Mojo habanero gives you a bit of a kick.

00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:32.560
Mhm. But it's not like like it's not doing that to me. Like I feel good. It woke me

00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.920
up a little bit. It's definitely spicy. It definitely hits you. My mouth is

00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:40.960
burning, but it's like Yeah. an okay amount of burning. I'm not I'm

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:45.760
not having uncontrollable hiccups. I get hiccups when stuff's spicy.

00:44:43.359 --> 00:44:49.760
So, you can buy a mix. You can get like cracked pepper and sea salt. Yeah.

00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.680
And a few other ones. And like find your find your sweet spot like I did with

00:44:51.040 --> 00:44:57.440
Mojo. Now, to be clear, your friend is good. It's just what you

00:44:56.560 --> 00:45:02.319
can handle. Yeah. So, Savage Jerky is made with the best

00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:05.359
ingredients without nitrates or or preservatives.

00:45:03.839 --> 00:45:08.880
And the goal was to create a snack that's full of flavor and spice that

00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:13.440
isn't bad for you. The inspiration came from the flavor of

00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:19.200
garlic, lime, and cilantro as it brings out the natural flavor in premium beef.

00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.880
And uh this is in my notes. People seem

00:45:19.200 --> 00:45:24.720
to love the Sriracha bacon, maple buffalo bacon, and the traditional

00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:30.720
flavors. They also make barbecue sauce. Wow, I had no idea.

00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:35.680
That's cool. So, use offer code LTT to save 10% over at savagejerky.com.

00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:40.079
The cracked pepper and sea salt is like a really good but more traditional

00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:44.079
styled beef jerky. Yeah. The problem with that one is that you can rip through a whole pack of it

00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:49.839
in like 2 minutes. Yeah. So yeah, if you want to like troll your

00:45:47.520 --> 00:45:54.960
friends and get a ghost pepper or reaper or something like that, it works.

00:45:52.720 --> 00:45:59.040
Or you might just like it. If you first bite, it's actually easier.

00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:03.680
It gets a little bit easier. Yeah, it does get easier.

00:46:01.200 --> 00:46:06.960
All right. It's It's It's also when you stop,

00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:10.160
though. Mhm. Cuz it gets easier after the first bite

00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:15.119
and then for a while, but then when you stop eating it. Oh, yeah. No. Then then it hits you

00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:20.240
again. So LTX LTX is the uh tech carnival that we're

00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:26.000
doing in the summer. We're going to have booths, games, prizes, and us, the whole

00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:29.359
LMG team will be there. Um, a few examples of the kinds of booths that

00:46:27.839 --> 00:46:33.119
we're going to have. Like, we wanted it to be just kind of goofy. So, it's going

00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:37.680
to be stuff like guess how many CPUs are in the jar. Um,

00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:41.520
video editing with Taran. Yeah, like the jelly bean thing, but like

00:46:39.839 --> 00:46:45.040
CPUs. I think FreeGeek's probably going to be in front of So, they'll be there with like, you

00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:51.920
know, just some Oh, free geek's going to be there. Maybe. Maybe. Okay. TBD, but like we're we're in talks with

00:46:49.520 --> 00:46:55.359
actually a lot of pretty cool folks. Um, uh, one other example would be the case

00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:58.560
toss. So, we're going to get a case manufacturer to give us uh, some cases.

00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:01.280
Is that nailed down now? Um, not exactly who, but someone's going

00:47:00.720 --> 00:47:06.400
to do it. Okay. Okay. Cuz I'm pretty excited about that, and I know there's a few people

00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:10.960
that are pretty excited about that. We're going to do like a VR with Luke demo. So, basically, you'll be like kind

00:47:09.839 --> 00:47:15.520
of showing people the Oh, that's exciting. That's cool. I've been wondering this

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:21.119
whole time what I was going to do. That's really cool. And then Taran's probably going to be

00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:23.040
doing like he'll have an LTT video and

00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:26.400
he'll just be working on it the whole time. So, you could actually watch Taran

00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.720
edit. You can ask him questions. That's been a great idea. We're not expecting him to actually get

00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:33.599
anything done because people will be like blah blah blah. But, like, if

00:47:32.319 --> 00:47:37.920
people want to see how it's done in person, I thought that would be really cool. We're just going to like pick up

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:42.319
his workstation and take it there. So, we've got a lot of really cool ideas.

00:47:39.839 --> 00:47:46.560
There's at least a few hundred people coming so far.

00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:50.079
So, it's not going to necessarily be like over a thousand people and crazy,

00:47:48.319 --> 00:47:55.520
but that may actually be a blessing in disguise because at least that way we're

00:47:52.319 --> 00:47:57.520
going to be covering with uh like a

00:47:55.520 --> 00:48:03.119
significant title sponsor. We should be able to cover most of the cost of the

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.720
venue already. And um and it'll actually

00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:08.960
it could end up being a pretty intimate event. Although, now that I say that, if everyone's like, "Oh, yeah. I want to go

00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:11.680
to an infinite. So, no guarantees.

00:48:10.160 --> 00:48:14.160
How many people are going on your limo ride? Um I think that sold out.

00:48:13.680 --> 00:48:18.880
Whoa. 10. Yeah. Cool.

00:48:16.720 --> 00:48:22.319
So, that was that happened faster than I expected. Um

00:48:20.319 --> 00:48:25.200
I thought at when I first read that that by the limo they meant the Civic.

00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.880
No. No. Then I was like, "Oh, that's too many people." Yeah.

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:37.040
Yeah. Yeah. 10 people in my Civic would be like pretty intimate

00:48:34.240 --> 00:48:44.880
as that goes. All right, I want to talk about this.

00:48:40.160 --> 00:48:47.760
Um, W to Cry collects basically no

00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:54.800
ransom despite infecting 200,000

00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:56.240
machines. So, the deadline is uh is

00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:59.200
beginning to pass here. The original article is from Bloomberg.

00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:05.440
I have a theory. Um, and apparently the attackers have

00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:08.319
claimed only about $92,000 in payments.

00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:13.920
Huh? How about that? So, my theory is if this happened like a

00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:17.599
number of years ago, like when I was still in high school, I think it would

00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:23.599
have actually been a lot more impactful because now I think if people like have

00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:25.839
a baby now or get engaged now, all their

00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:29.760
photos go up on social media. So, it's not their one backup that's on

00:49:27.520 --> 00:49:36.800
their computer. And I think what they ran into here was if people had super

00:49:32.640 --> 00:49:39.280
important stuff, the 300 bucks was not

00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:44.079
good, but probably not the end of the world. And then other people are like,

00:49:41.680 --> 00:49:47.200
"Oh, well, this is a fairly major inconvenience, but I can go get my

00:49:45.680 --> 00:49:51.040
computer reformatted and everything's fine because everything I do is in a

00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:54.960
browser." Notice how they're releasing computers that are like almost just browsers these days.

00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.880
So like for a lot of people it's like, "Oh, what the heck is this?" they show it to some

00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:03.920
techie friend or they bring it to Geek Squad. They're just like, "Oh yeah, we can do it cheaper than that ransom price

00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:06.559
anyways, but we have to do some stuff." And then people that are like, "Oh my

00:50:05.359 --> 00:50:12.480
goodness, this is mission critical information. 300 bucks for like a big

00:50:09.040 --> 00:50:13.839
business sucks, but like

00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:18.720
not the end of the world." So if even 1% of people had paid the

00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.839
ransom, it would have worked out to over six times the amount they actually

00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:26.880
collected. So I feel like almost no Joe Schmoes

00:50:24.319 --> 00:50:32.079
actually paid for it. And it gets worse because of the attention on this

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:35.920
particular case. The authorities think it's unlikely the monies the attackers

00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:40.000
have received will be transferred from Bitcoin to more traditional currencies

00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:42.640
due to the risk of it being detected. With that said, there's a lot of stuff

00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:44.880
you can buy with Bitcoin. So, I don't think that's as big a problem as some

00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:50.800
people might. Yeah, but they could they could still track that to a certain degree,

00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:55.280
right? I guess that's true. Like that money is sketch depending on but but okay. But they

00:50:54.160 --> 00:50:59.839
might do for sure. They might buy very illegitimate things,

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:04.480
scatter it around, and then Yeah. What up?

00:51:01.680 --> 00:51:08.720
Very easy to like mix the Bitcoin.

00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:09.040
Yeah. No, it should be fine.

00:51:08.720 --> 00:51:14.240
Um Oh, really? Apparently, people sell like mixing it up and obscuring it as a

00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:20.640
service. That's cool. I don't know enough about Bitcoin. Why do you know this? Go away.

00:51:18.240 --> 00:51:23.440
Jake is secretly running Silk Road 3 right now

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.160
out of his house. He told me this offline.

00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:31.280
Great. Yeah. Yeah.

00:51:29.520 --> 00:51:35.119
Jake, can I have a favor? Yeah. Can I have more water, please?

00:51:33.520 --> 00:51:38.559
Oh my god. You have to pay him in Bitcoin through

00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:43.359
his secret onion website. Thank you. I'm dying.

00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:47.599
Thank you. And ice, too. Thank you.

00:51:46.319 --> 00:51:53.200
But it's okay. Is that how that works?

00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:53.680
Yeah. I like have like mut built up in

00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:59.200
my throat. I can hear the Oh, your throat's even red here.

00:51:56.960 --> 00:52:04.960
Well, that's probably from I always have a redneck. Okay.

00:52:00.720 --> 00:52:05.520
Yeah, I was born in the sticks. Um Oh,

00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:10.720
okay. Saying you need milk. I don't think we just have milk. Yeah, we don't, unfortunately. And yes,

00:52:09.040 --> 00:52:16.000
I know milk works a lot better than water. Um, so this was originally posted

00:52:13.839 --> 00:52:19.599
on the forum by WM Groom AK and the original article is from the tech

00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:26.319
report. Optane dims and companion CPUs will

00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:29.440
arrive in 2018. So if you haven't been

00:52:26.319 --> 00:52:32.240
paying attention to this, Optane DIMs

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.559
are going to be super high capacity modules, too.

00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:38.680
That will fit in Kidding. I'm kidding. It's fine.

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:46.000
Ah, much better. Super high-capacity

00:52:43.520 --> 00:52:51.920
modules that will fit in otherwise normal RAM slots as far as I know. Then

00:52:48.720 --> 00:52:54.319
there will be a like a a special BIOS

00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:58.720
configuration that allows you to use it as a slower kind of uh so if you got

00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:02.720
your level one cache and your level two cache, your level three cache, I guess

00:53:01.359 --> 00:53:09.520
in some cases there's level four, but don't worry about it. Then your next tier is DRAM. And then traditionally

00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:16.319
your next tier was NAND but it's like many orders of magnitude slower. So

00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:19.200
Optane sits in between. And uh what this

00:53:16.319 --> 00:53:23.359
will allow you to do is have massive effective

00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:29.760
memory capacity for your system without needing so many dim slots and without

00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:36.720
spending so much. So, when we were checking out SFU's supercomputer, one of

00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:40.400
the things that they told us was that

00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:43.760
Oh, okay.

00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:46.480
Their uh their systems that needed 1 and

00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:51.119
a half terabytes uh excuse me, yeah, wait. Yeah, one and a half terabytes of

00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:56.160
memory had to be 2U just so they could fit all those RAM slots. Then

00:53:54.640 --> 00:54:00.160
the systems that were going to be used for workloads that needed even more

00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:05.440
memory than that, the 3 TB memory systems of which I think they only have

00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:08.880
four had to be four U systems with quad

00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:11.520
sockets. But get this, the quad socket

00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:17.119
CPUs they were using were eight cores. So their quad socket systems actually

00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:20.319
had the same number of cores as their

00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:22.640
dual 16 core socket systems

00:54:20.319 --> 00:54:28.079
or their dual socket 16 core systems. So 30 uh yeah 32 total and so because the

00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:32.480
only reason they needed it was so they could have more RAM. So this could solve

00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:39.119
that problem as long as the workloads that they're using can are okay with the

00:54:36.720 --> 00:54:42.079
data being a little bit slower but not as slow as trying to put it on NAND

00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:47.119
flash. Someone just asked me what I'm eating. We literally just did a sponsor spot.

00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:51.119
It's Savage Jerky. I'm just still eating their stuff. Um, another cool thing is

00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:56.000
that they're saying that it's supposed to be cheaper, lower prices than DRAM.

00:54:54.079 --> 00:55:01.680
Yes. Much cheaper than DRAM, which like usually happens with new

00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:03.119
technologies over time. It's not super

00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:05.520
common for that to happen with a new technology right out of the gate. So,

00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:10.800
that's pretty cool. But it's intended to be because it's

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:15.839
it's designed to be an order of magnitude bigger than DRAM, but also a

00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:19.760
lot cheaper to sit right in between NAND and DAM. I'm actually I'm super excited

00:55:18.319 --> 00:55:23.520
to see where this takes us in the future. Oh, I realized I should probably

00:55:21.839 --> 00:55:31.280
talk about the deal that we are working on. So, we've been we've been working

00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:33.599
with Lime, makers of Unrade, for

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:37.760
a year and a half now, I think, going all the way back to Oh, no, cuz Seven

00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:43.520
Gamers 1 CPU was a year and a half ago. Yeah. So, it would have been closer to two

00:55:40.240 --> 00:55:45.119
years now, I guess. Wow. Really? Anyway,

00:55:43.520 --> 00:55:51.280
so we've worked with them on a number of projects. We use their software and I

00:55:48.640 --> 00:55:55.440
like it so much that basically what we're what we're working on is an

00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:58.640
agreement where I would actually take a stake in the company and I would be

00:55:56.799 --> 00:56:05.200
working with them on future development. Um we've seen it in action in terms of

00:56:02.640 --> 00:56:09.040
where it's at today, but I think that there's a lot of stuff that we could

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:13.119
help with that would make it so that they could really take things to the

00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:17.760
next level. So basically that's where I'm at on that. um nothing is finalized

00:56:15.359 --> 00:56:20.880
so I can't really I can't really give any more detail than that but I just

00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:24.240
thought in the interest of you guys understanding you know sort of what

00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:28.319
we're up to over here I want to make sure that that's clear uh the reason

00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:31.839
that I was comfortable with lime even though I have specifically gone out of

00:56:30.160 --> 00:56:36.880
my way to not buy shares in companies like AMD and Intel is that we don't

00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:42.240
really cover their competitors I mean not just in the last 2 years but even

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:49.040
you go back a couple years before that we basically don't touch NAS systems.

00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:53.119
Um, and the reason for that is because we just don't really like most of them.

00:56:51.839 --> 00:56:58.559
We don't think they're we don't think they're userfriendly. We don't think they're that easy to use. Uh, which is

00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:02.079
the same thing. That's the main reason that I don't like them. I tried.

00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:06.799
Um, and quite frankly, viewer interest is

00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:10.160
not that high. And a lot of the stuff that we've done with Unrade has really

00:57:08.319 --> 00:57:14.880
been more about the other functionality that it has. So like the uh the

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:18.880
virtualization and stuff like that. So yeah, that's basically where I'm at on

00:57:16.720 --> 00:57:21.880
that. Um

00:57:23.680 --> 00:57:29.359
so what else do we got? I mean, we got actually a lot of topics this week.

00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:32.319
These are scrap wars. Yeah, I'm I'm down. How are we How are

00:57:31.359 --> 00:57:40.079
we going to do that again? Jump to random part.

00:57:35.520 --> 00:57:42.319
Okay, so I don't know how to do I Oh,

00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:48.799
you know what? I never figured out the audio input.

00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:49.520
So, that's a thing that I didn't do. Um,

00:57:48.799 --> 00:57:56.160
let's go ahead and How did we do it last time? Uh, I held up the laptop to the

00:57:53.280 --> 00:58:00.559
microphone, which was terrible. Um, so

00:57:58.319 --> 00:58:02.799
that might be the only way to do this. Well, it's not the only way, but it's

00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:10.640
the only way. Why can't you listen to it over HDMI right now? Because I don't know either.

00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:14.960
These don't take audio or go right click on it.

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:19.200
Uh what? Yeah. Go to cam real quick.

00:58:17.359 --> 00:58:23.040
Go to cam. Yeah. Change the audio from built-in/none to

00:58:21.839 --> 00:58:28.559
the recorder that you wanted to come from. Never mind. There they go. See why? What

00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:31.599
would I do without you? What would I do without you?

00:58:30.319 --> 00:58:34.240
Probably a lot of the same stuff. It just wouldn't be as fun. Or as good.

00:58:33.839 --> 00:58:41.599
Yeah. Yeah. Yay. Yay, Luke.

00:58:37.359 --> 00:58:44.000
So, uh, Scrapyard War season 5 episode 1

00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:49.520
is hopefully this works up already over on Float Playing Club.

00:58:46.720 --> 00:58:52.520
Oh, hold on. Well, you got to play back devices.

00:58:53.520 --> 00:59:00.799
Oh, I can't hear that in my monitor, which is super scary because I have no

00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:06.480
idea what kind of volume I'm outputting at. So, uh, I'm sure Twitch chat will be

00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:11.799
telling me if I broke their eard drums. If you plugged it into the computer

00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.799
directly, you would hear it.

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:17.680
Yeah, in theory, this is that's how this is supposed to work, but I forgot which

00:59:15.520 --> 00:59:20.960
one I'm supposed to plug into. So, cuz I'm really really dumb.

00:59:19.680 --> 00:59:24.079
Apparently, they can hear and it's a little bit too loud. Okay. Well, then

00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:27.920
most people are saying it's good, though. The vast majority of people are saying it's good. So, go like a little

00:59:26.799 --> 00:59:32.480
bit down and then So, we'll call that good. So, so you

00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:36.640
just want to skip to So, 45minute episode. Actually, 46 minute episode. Do

00:59:35.040 --> 00:59:39.520
you just want to skip to a random spot? Sure. I don't know. I don't even know

00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:44.319
what's going to come up. Okay. Why are we watching in 360p?

00:59:42.160 --> 00:59:47.720
That's peasant. That's peasant stuff. Peasant stuff.

00:59:48.799 --> 00:59:54.559
I have before. Do you see that playback? You see that lightning fast playback? Hold on. Hold

00:59:52.720 --> 01:00:00.000
on. Stop. Here. Here. Listen for the click. And we click. One of the things too is

00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:03.760
that West Coast North America is like not even a good area for us.

01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:06.400
We're going to be $25 over. I don't even know what we're doing here.

01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:11.839
Me neither. $25 over. Oh, do we not have the preview working

01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:15.200
for such long yet? I guess maybe.

01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:19.200
Interesting. Makes sense. Two drives for 10 bucks.

01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:23.040
I wonder what we're figuring out here. It looks suspenseful.

01:00:21.839 --> 01:00:30.240
Yeah. Yeah, I know what that is. Yeah, I know what's going on. I know what's going on. Calling up um here. Let's see if

01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:33.280
Okay. Okay. Okay. So, that that's enough. So, basically, what what was the

01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:38.480
point of this? So, Scrapyard Wars episode 1 is coming

01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.160
out. That right there is coming out on YouTube tomorrow.

01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:46.000
Tomorrow. If you want to see episode two tomorrow,

01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:50.559
you can sign up for Floatplane and you can see that today, episode one today,

01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:54.480
and then watch episode two tomorrow and be totally caught up on the Floatplane

01:00:52.079 --> 01:01:00.240
side of things. Um, also really cool note, this is what I wasn't sure about

01:00:56.799 --> 01:01:03.119
telling you guys last time. We now have

01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:09.680
some load balancing going on with geos. So, a lot of people in Australia and the

01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:11.520
kind of general European area um have

01:01:09.680 --> 01:01:17.520
noticed a lot of improvements. That's because we have some like kind of more

01:01:14.799 --> 01:01:19.119
onloation servers for you guys up and running with some load balancing going

01:01:18.799 --> 01:01:25.359
on. Do you want to say where they are? Yeah, Australia. So, Australia and the

01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:30.000
other ones in France, but it should be able to better serve you than ones in

01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:34.640
Canada. So, yeah, a lot of people from various countries around Europe have had

01:01:32.319 --> 01:01:38.079
a much better experience um than before when everyone was just

01:01:36.319 --> 01:01:41.920
going through Canadian servers. We are going to continue to expand. So, if

01:01:40.160 --> 01:01:46.400
you're in an area that like isn't super great right now, ironically, where we

01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:50.400
are is like not the greatest, it's good. You just watched the playback. It's

01:01:48.319 --> 01:01:54.000
good. Um, it could be slightly better and it will be slightly better because

01:01:52.799 --> 01:01:58.480
we'll eventually have West Coast servers. Um, but yeah, if you're in an

01:01:56.319 --> 01:02:02.000
area and you are consistently not getting super great bandwidth, I'm not

01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:05.520
hearing this very often, almost not at all. But if you are, let me know where

01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:09.200
you're from and we will look into getting that better. To be clear, like the infrastructure

01:02:07.839 --> 01:02:14.400
upgrades we're making right now have nothing to do with capacity for the platform. Um,

01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:20.319
like there's a lot more people on it than you would probably think,

01:02:17.359 --> 01:02:22.400
but it's not like, you know, a billion people or anything like YouTube or

01:02:21.839 --> 01:02:29.760
something. It's more just trying to make user experience better. Yeah.

01:02:26.640 --> 01:02:32.480
I mean, this is the kind of boring stuff

01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:36.000
that takes months to work on and figure out before you want to launch and like

01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:43.280
bring a bunch of other creators. Yeah. And it's frustrating when like we're an international group and we have

01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:45.839
people from North America watching all the footage and they're like everything

01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:50.880
looks great. I can watch 1080p. Everything it's snappy. Hooray. And then someone from Australia is like I have to

01:02:49.200 --> 01:02:54.960
download it. Or like I can sometimes watch it in

01:02:52.799 --> 01:02:57.839
360p. And I'm like that's not fair. People watch us from everywhere. I want

01:02:56.400 --> 01:03:02.000
this to work well for everyone even if it cost us more. So now we're doing that.

01:02:59.839 --> 01:03:06.480
Um so we're actually going to do like a more Floatplane another Floatplane Q&A

01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:09.760
after the WAN Show. if you guys want to kind of hang around for that. Um,

01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.160
otherwise, I think we've got a few more pretty good topics for you.

01:03:11.680 --> 01:03:15.920
Um, anyways, one quick, actually, no, we have like nothing. Oh,

01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:21.359
wait, no, we do have more. There's also a little teaser of episode

01:03:18.799 --> 01:03:24.079
two on Floatplane only. So, if you're a Floatplane guy and you haven't been

01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:28.240
there on there in a couple days, jump on there. Check out the teaser for Scrapper

01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:31.440
Wars episode 2. It's it's it's pretty good.

01:03:30.640 --> 01:03:36.640
What? Huh? So, actually, I did not know about

01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:42.240
this. So, this was posted by WM Groom AK on the forum. The original article is

01:03:38.319 --> 01:03:46.640
from RS Technica. And it looks like

01:03:42.240 --> 01:03:49.680
Google gets to keep their trademark even

01:03:46.640 --> 01:03:52.480
though it has turned into a generic term

01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:56.240
for searching the web. So, going back to our notes here, when a brand name

01:03:54.160 --> 01:03:59.839
becomes completely ubiquitous, like thermos, I didn't even know teleprompter

01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.640
was a brand name. Me neither. And videotape. Didn't know that was a

01:04:02.319 --> 01:04:07.839
brand name. Oh my goodness. either it can lose its legally protected

01:04:05.839 --> 01:04:13.839
status. So the this process is called genericide and in 2012 Google filed a

01:04:11.839 --> 01:04:18.799
cyber squatting complaint and claimed trademark infringement when a man

01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:20.720
registered 763 domain names that

01:04:18.799 --> 01:04:25.119
combined Google with other words and phrases including googledonaldTrump.com.

01:04:23.200 --> 01:04:28.880
Oh, what a jerk. I see what he was doing there. So, the man filed an appeal

01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:32.640
citing genericide and the court ruled that Google still retains its trademark

01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:36.720
even if the term Google has become known for searching the internet.

01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:42.160
So, how does that actually work though? Um, I have no idea. I mean, John would

01:04:40.319 --> 01:04:47.920
be a more sort of cuz like sensible person to talk about this. Hey,

01:04:44.640 --> 01:04:49.599
hey, hey, John.

01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:51.520
He's coming. He's coming. All right. I'm giving up my seat. I'm giving up my

01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:57.520
seat. Okay. John's coming in to talk about Janera's side. John, generic side.

01:04:55.920 --> 01:05:01.920
All right. This thing, eh? Okay. Hit me or Luke.

01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:07.680
Hit something. Yeah, there you go. Good job. Uide.

01:05:05.520 --> 01:05:12.799
Google almost potentially lost its trademark on Google because like, oh,

01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:17.680
I'll just Google it has become a general term for looking something up on the

01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:19.039
internet. Um, someone sued them over it

01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:22.559
because they tried to take down a bunch of his domains and blah blah blah blah.

01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:27.119
And he was like, "Okay, so you used a lot of pronouns there. Okay, let's see.

01:05:24.319 --> 01:05:31.839
In 2012, Google filed a cyber squatting complaint and claimed trademark

01:05:28.799 --> 01:05:33.760
infringement when a man registered 763

01:05:31.839 --> 01:05:38.400
domain names that combined Google with other words and phrases such as Googled

01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:42.480
Donald Trump.com. The man filed an appeal citing genericide. The court

01:05:40.799 --> 01:05:45.760
ruled that ruled that Google still retains its trademark even if the term

01:05:44.160 --> 01:05:50.400
Google has become known for searching the internet. So, how does that work?

01:05:47.680 --> 01:05:53.280
Um, isn't that literally the even though Google has become known for searching

01:05:51.920 --> 01:06:01.280
the internet? Isn't that the whole point of genericide? Uh, it is. Um, genericide is kind of um

01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:03.440
it's not a hard and fast rule. It's not

01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:07.520
like, oh, after a certain amount of time or a certain number of people say it in

01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:12.480
a generic manner, it becomes generic. It's a little bit squishy. Uh, but they

01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:14.799
do look at things like um and I don't know what happened in this case because

01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:19.200
I just have the one little note in front of me, but they could have looked at something like, oh, has Google taken a

01:06:17.839 --> 01:06:24.960
lot of the steps to protect its trademark? Um, you know, back uh back in

01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:28.240
the day before um um when when

01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:29.680
photocopers were still like a like more

01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:33.839
of a cutting edge thing than they are now, um people would say, "Oh, Xerox

01:06:32.319 --> 01:06:38.000
it," you know, to make a copy even though there were tons of copers not

01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:43.760
made by Xerox, right? So, Xerox actually took out like a big newspaper ad say

01:06:41.359 --> 01:06:47.680
saying or telling people say, "Make a copy. Don't say Xerox because they're

01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:51.520
trying to protect their trademark." So if Google maybe Google showed that they

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were taking um active steps to protect the trademark. So

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maybe it also helps them because Google puts their Google branding on way more

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things than just a browser. They do. Yeah, that might help. I have no idea.

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Yeah, maybe. It's like I said, it's kind of a squishy area of law. I'm not

01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:10.799
surprised that Google won. Um it takes

01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:15.280
it takes like quite Yeah. I mean, just aside from the money they have to spend,

01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:18.240
it takes it takes a lot for a trademark to become generic. So,

01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:24.039
yeah. Yeah. So, there we go. Cool. That's it. I think that's it.

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Okay. Carry on, gentlemen.

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I'm back. The FAA's drone registry requirement got shot down. The original

01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:37.680
article is from TechCrunch. Let's go ahead and pull that up. But basically, a

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federal appeals court shoots down

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the FAA's drone registry registry requirement. It's likely that the FAA

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will appeal this decision or take some other approach uh which seems to be very

01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:54.400
common in the states with stuff like net neutrality being tried like a billion times under a billion different names.

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So drone hobbyist John Taylor argued that the Federal Aviation Administration

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doesn't have jurisdiction over what the law classifies as model aircraft. Um the

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registration database was proposed in 2015 to address growing drone ownership

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in the US which has brought with it privacy and safety concerns. Um, so

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there that's basically where we're at on that. So stay tuned for more and um,

01:08:17.440 --> 01:08:25.199
yeah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, winners

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of the Casemod World Series 2017

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posted by Rod Rosenberg on the forum. Man, I hate that guy.

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Was it Rod? Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know if Rod won.

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Did he post his own winning?

01:08:35.440 --> 01:08:41.759
Let's see. No. No, it doesn't look like it. Was he in it or was he a judge? Yeah.

01:08:39.839 --> 01:08:43.359
Where? I don't uh I have a feeling he has something to do

01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:50.319
with this. I'm just trying to find like a Oh, okay. No, there's

01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:56.390
there's no uh no BS mods. Maybe he says something in the link.

01:08:53.120 --> 01:08:57.759
Yeah, I can't click on it though.

01:08:57.759 --> 01:09:02.880
Okay, so the first winner was uh

01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:10.560
Oh, no. I think he just thinks it's cool. That's cool. Vega by S Russia.

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:14.480
Yes, Russia. No, no, not FPS Russia. That's a different thing. But good try.

01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:17.279
Good try. Thank you, Nick. Um, it looks cool.

01:09:15.759 --> 01:09:23.440
That's apparently made out of a Mastercase 5.

01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:24.960
It looks like they just chopped it like

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pretty early on. Completely unrecognizable.

01:09:27.120 --> 01:09:32.159
Well, no. The the the very bit at the front, this bit is recognizable. And

01:09:30.719 --> 01:09:37.279
then that's it. Then it stops.

01:09:34.799 --> 01:09:40.000
Under goes a complete structural change. Yeah, we noticed the complete structural

01:09:38.799 --> 01:09:43.839
change. We did notice that. Pretty pretty intense. Yeah.

01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:48.000
Like, hey, here's a case. We'll we'll just take the top quarter of it. You can

01:09:45.839 --> 01:09:50.480
take the rest. We don't need it. Not a big deal.

01:09:49.759 --> 01:09:58.320
That's awesome. What is that based on? Those are pretty cool. Like a stacker or something.

01:09:53.679 --> 01:09:59.679
Futuristic ideas and metal uh modded 30.

01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:04.480
Okay. Yeah, I can see that. Cool. PSU on the side. Just put the PSU

01:10:02.719 --> 01:10:07.040
over there. Seems to be kind of open like you can see the graphics card. You

01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:10.640
can see You're pretty neat. That's actually really pretty cool. It looks really good. Yeah.

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All right, and that's pretty much it. Thank you for tuning in to the WAN Show.

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We will see you again next week. Same bat time, same bat channel.

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Outro. Oh, yeah. I'm really not firing on all

01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:30.239
cylinders today. That's cool.

01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:33.239
Actually, I am. I'm just in other places.

01:10:34.080 --> 01:10:39.360
What's up? Someone's like, "Finally, a good W show episode." Good job, guys.

01:10:39.120 --> 01:10:42.640
I'm surprised. That was decent. We're so

01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:47.679
hungry. Yeah, last week sucked, but I thought the one before that was pretty good.

01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:50.800
Yeah. Oh. Oh, that's

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the afterparty for last week was wonderful.