We've been live for a bit. We were just, you know, we were having like a a
contemplative moment. Did you know that whole time?
Yeah. You just let that happen? Yeah. Yeah. I was I was watching you over here on the monitor. I was just
like, he's just so majestic.
So, we've got a we've got a great show for you guys today. It's actually been a
heck of a week. Um, I don't know what you've been doing, but uh I've been I've
been traveling to the far away land of Toronto. Oh, wow.
Canada. That's majestic.
All manner of majestic. Who were you who were you visiting with? Tell the people.
Dad Mau Senko. So, Senko.
Yeah. Did you call him that? No, I did not.
I went with Joel. I figured that was pretty sick. Okay, cool. Yeah.
All right, so we've got a lot of great uh topics for you guys today. AMD
announces Threadripper.
Also, pretty sick name. The chip formerly known as Naples with a
far more controversial name. What else we got? Uh, well, Destiny 2 is going to
be exclusively on Battle.net, which is
actually kind of interesting because I believe before they were saying Steam or
just open to everything. And W to Cry
has only collected $92,000 in ransom,
which like considering the scope they're on is really not very much. We'll talk
about that later. Wow. Crazy. Wild. Fantastic.
I just almost turned off the screen. stopped the whole thing. I'm actually like my brain is pretty
tired. Like I did I went 3 hours one way
and 3 hours the other way in like which is like not enough to
56 hours kind of thing. Like it's and like generally speaking I handle the
time zone shift pretty well. But I also
uh was up till 3:00 a.m. Eastern time.
No, Western time still. So like
No, don't stop the stream. Oh, no. I'm not going to stop the stream. Savage
Jerky. Thank you, Savage Jerky. Maybe you'll wake line us up.
Fresh books and also the tech carnival.
Hooray. Do we know how many tickets we sold for that? Uh, people ask me all the time, and I'm
like, I don't know, but I could I could find out. Um,
yeah, I could definitely find out. I'm going to ask
um I love that guy. He's awesome. All
right. Well, why don't we now he's not doing the Wand do. Okay. Do you want to Yeah. Yeah. Every
all is forgiven. Yeah. Okay. So, should I talk about my trip?
Do you want to talk about what you've been up to this week or should we get into actual talk about your trip?
Cuz I I want to know about your trip. So, I signed an NDA
the minute I walked into the studio. Really? Yes.
What? So, I can tell you that much.
What? Okay. I will tell you I will tell you things that I'm allowed to tell you
because like here's the thing is like what what are you even working on? I
guess you can't say his his studio is like his house. So
like Oh, so he doesn't want you to talk about like
So I like met people and like
So it was an NDA but like the people that were there and the stuff that was
there and Oh yeah. Like I thought it was an NDA but what you're
doing and I was like I sort of think I know what you're doing and it's not that. Oh, it's it's an NDA of like
making sure that you properly respect someone's privacy who is a public figure
and totally makes sense. So, there's a separate release that we're going to get
signed for everything that we're publishing from the piece that we did
and then like he gets to sign off on it. But like basically what I can say is
that uh Joel uh Zimmerman aka Dead
Mouse, super chill guy. Yeah, we were supposed to be there from 1
until like the end of the workday. Um,
we didn't leave until the wee hours of the morning just like shooting the
and uh working on working on our video and just like
that's actually really cool. the guy is. So there's there's a huge difference
between people that are famous for like
um for for like being famous I guess
like socialites and people who are people who are famous
for just like really really caring deeply about their craft and the guy's a
gigantic geek like such a nerd. I've
thought about getting his master class, not because I want to learn how to
actually do that stuff cuz I would be horrible at it. We both know this. Um,
but I think it would just be interesting to watch, because I like watching people
that are that passionate about something just talk about it. Yep. And so, and it's it's what's cool
is that no matter how basic of a thing we were talking about, because for me,
electronic music is like explain like I'm five pretty much. I don't know much
about the scene. I don't know much about the artists. I I had I confessed it to
him. I was just like, "So, as part of my
research and due diligence for this trip, I put you into Google Play Music
and like listened to some of your music." I legitimately have listened to a lot of
his stuff, like probably everything. And the funny thing about it is he was just
crazy chill about even even like like for me that's pretty embarrassing but
it's less embarrassing for me to admit it up front right
than for him to be like you know something something something
do you think of this song and me being like oh is it one of yours
and it's like ghost and stuff or something
like okay good reference there you go because Google Play Music conveniently sorts by
popular so like so when when and stuff.
Nope. So, when um when we were looking at some stuff that
I can't talk about, but that is really cool and it's going to be in the video,
like I I recognized things that was
good. When we used to have lands, one song that we could play like on the speakers
because my parents and my friends and me all liked it was a DeadMouse song and it
was Strobe. Okay. I don't know that one. But like like it's it's just kind of funny that
like out of all the music between all the different genres that all the people
liked at these like really big lands with lots of people, it ended up being
some Dead Mouse songs, right, that were the easiest to play.
So So yeah. No, it was really fun. He's super cool. We uh spent the entire day
there. Um and basically it's going to be like a studio tour, but not like most
people would go in and do a studio tour with Dead Mouse. In fact, in some ways,
I think me not being a rabbid fanboy
probably helped us approach his studio a
little bit differently because I think, you know, what would a typical person
do? They'd walk in, they'd be like, "Can you wear the hat?"
Right? That's kind of lame. And so, and I would actually specifically want him
to not put the hat on. So, instead, you know, we're looking at
ah I like I don't know what I can say and what I can't say. Like, some G
series SS. I'm sure he'd be cool about it, but like we're looking at the tech behind
how he does things. Um, he even does like a short So,
because I was like, "Okay, explain like I'm completely stupid." Uh, how
electronic music works. And he actually does like like a like a kindergarten
level like demo, live demo. Super cool. And
just it'll be it'll be great for anyone like me. I am personally really stoked to watch.
electronic music is like that kind of
like it's it's that but what does that mean and and we get this very basic
explanation of it. It's really awesome. That's cool. Um so what were you up to?
I was grading projects. I was trying to
finalize contracts with people about things. Um I was modernizing something
that I'm not going to mention. Uh what
the heck else did I do? meeting with multiple accountants about weird really
annoying stuff. Um, one of which like
wants me to This is going to go a little bit too deep into personal stuff.
Shoot. We called the stupid stream afterparty. Ah, dang it. Carry on. Uh,
one of them, no, I told both of them that I'm a US and Canadian citizen, and
one of them like very aggressively
wanted me to move to the States, renounce my Canadian citizenship, and
get convince you guys that Floatplane
should move to the States and all this kind of stuff. What? What? And like had a giant picture of Trump on
his wall. It was a really weird meeting. Um, yeah, it was a lot of weird stuff
happened this week. That's probably how I'd frame that to be completely honest.
But yeah, there you go. Okay. Um, sure. Anyway,
tried out Okay, I actually tried out a really wicked keyboard. Okay.
Uh, it's a pre-release keyboard from Wuing and we're making a video on it, but it's
the optical key switches where it's like an analog gradient as you go down, so
you can do like steering wheel driving. We finally got one of those in. I think
we requested one like ages ago, forever ago, and they said they'd they
didn't want to send me an early one cuz they were like, "We want to send you one when it's done so you can see it when
it's ready." And it's still an early one because I asked forever ago. I think
around like Computex last year and Yeah.
So, whatever. It's Wuing like like Wing,
not Wuang. Did I say Wuang? No, you didn't. Yeah. Okay.
But Twitch chat, it's like Wuang. No.
No, it's not a Wu Tang keyboard.
Get out of here.
Oh, I was making the wings behind this. Yeah. No, he can he can he can he can
go. He's dismissed. All right. Yeah, let's So, this was
originally posted on the forum by Doc Swag.
I have more to talk about with Floatplane, but I was thinking of lining it up after
or not. Well, I also I want to line it up for when we do the little bit of a teaser
thing. Okay. Sure. Okay. All right, AMD.
Oh, what? Oh. Oh, did we move the we
moved the HDMI duads around? Hold on. What?
I'll be right back. Okay. Uh, should I talk about it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
AMD will be introducing stuff called Threadripper. Ryzen Threadripper. The
they're AMD. Sorry. They will have 16
cores and 32 threads. That's why they're called the Threadripper, which is just
absolutely ridiculous. I believe there's a couple different Yeah, there will be
up to nine different Thread Rippers. These are rumors. The 1998X
and 1998 with 16 cores. The 1977X and
1977 with 14 cores. 1976X and 1956X
and 1956 all have 12 cores. And then the
1955X and 1955 with 10 cores. Why are
they making this so complicated? It's a little messy. Okay, it's really
messy. Um, but having it be AM4 and
being able to get 16 cores is pretty sick.
So, uh, this is all this is all Oh, so
these are claims from WCCF tech, just to be clear.
Um, wait, hold on. And they're also
saying that these Threadripper CPUs won't be compatible with the AM4 socket,
which sports 1331 pins, uh, but will demand a massive
4,094 pins. Does it have a picture of it? Was that
the Epic thing that was epic? Um, although it wouldn't
surprise me, it wouldn't surprise me if Threadripper
is um will look the same as Epic and uh
fit in the same socket. So much like what Intel does with their high-end
desktop, so their 2011 V3s and their
Xeon platform, which also fits in socket 2011 V3. I'm expecting AMD to have their
epic line of server chips and their Threadripper line of high-end desktop
and/or workstation chips exist on the same socket. So that'll allow them to
have more PCIe lanes, uh more pins for interfacing with more cores, uh up to I
believe it is six channel memory.
I'll try to find that. I read that wrong and thought it was on a different socket. Sorry guys.
Um six I can't remember. Is there eight
channel memory or something stupid like that? I can't remember. I think it's eight channel memory actually now that I
think about it. Um, and then the other
the other thing is that uh what's so
what's okay so what's interesting about this to me is that the way that Intel
differentiates their Xeon processors on LGA 20113 and their uh their Core i7
processors on LG 20113 is a couple of things and the main ones are dual socket
support. So I would expect that that
will continue to be a differentiator for AMD. But the other thing that Intel does
to keep them separate from each other is support for ECC registered memory on
Xeon. 16 channel DDR4 memory. 16 channel. I think that's 16 channels
to the dual uh wait 16 channel. Wow. Okay. Well
maybe uh maybe Twitch chat is epic.
So that's the epic. So for 30 if you want 32 dims.
So yeah. Um but if the Epic is on the same platform.
Yeah. I guess that that could be another way that they differentiate them,
right? So yeah. So rumor rumor there will be up
to nine Thread Rippers. I really I kind of hope they just call them Ryzen 9 to
make life a little bit easier. And I I I
really am not sure what I think of these convoluted kind of names for them.
The 1998X and 1998.
Um, tell me this. 16 cores
on a desktop. What's the value here
if you want to run like four
Lime Tech systems on one system? So,
I'll let you in on a little secret. I've chatted with the Lime Tech boys and u so
far virtualization on Ryzen is not a great
experience, but Okay, go ahead. Carry on. Okay. Um um
streaming to a lot of places at one time
at a lot of different like output resolutions. Sure.
And for some reason, you don't have like a separate box handling that.
Yeah. Okay. All right. What else you got?
Not much. Cinebench. Sure.
Amazing Cinebench. The best Cinebench. Um, so we actually
did a demo a little while ago. 3D rendering.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, so like workstation.
Workstation. But he wasn't saying workstation. Yeah. Cuz I like I'm I'm talking like
competition with high-end desktop. Like to me, I'm kind of looking at Thread
Ripper going this is seems like a very niche product right now because Ryzen 7
already goes all the way up to eight quite high performance cores which for
desktop workloads like it's about like um like it's about like talking about
how your how high performance your SSD is when it requires Q depths of 16 in
order to even you know differentiate itself from a low-end SSD. Like that's
what we're talking about. We're talking about a product with all this theoretical power, but that a desktop
workload um pretty much wouldn't touch.
And to be clear, I am not complaining.
The fact that AMD is coming in and putting pressure on Intel about core
counts is great. But right now, I think the sweet spot is just six cores. So, a
lot of people in chat are naming a lot of things that you could do with it that aren't the scenarios that Linus is
talking about. A lot of what people are listing are workstation stuff. I don't remember all work.
One of them was like SETI at home and stuff. That's not a
which is like that's not necessarily workstation. No, but it's not really uh like it's a
it's it's it's more like a power virus. It's less like a an actual thing that
you're sitting at your computer doing. Yeah. To be clear, it has a value, but
most people remember we're talking about people saying like cryptography and
stuff. Who's actually doing that at home? And like you're probably doing with a
GPU and GPUs are a thing.
Yeah. Um so another guy said Bitcoin mining, but like again, yeah, I go with a graphics
card. Yeah. Or uh don't they have like a
video rendering? I'm I'm out of date on the whole Bitcoin thing.
Jake's trying to convince me to do like another Bitcoin. Still, you still kind
of just want to use your video card, though. Yeah. Oh, is it still just video cards?
Okay. Yeah, I was just like I think I like I could be
misinformed. So, basically what I what I
see as being positive about this is that it's putting pressure on Intel to
finally give us more than four cores. And it's putting uh it's not apparently.
Apparently, I'm wrong. Oh, GPUs are not a thing.
Well, no, they still are.
But
yeah, I'm not sure. Um, okay. Now, let's talk about the chip
formerly known as Naples. So,
here's what I don't get. Why is it that
companies that have great code names
like Zen Architecture and
Naples product code name, which is like
inoffensive, unoffensive? It's not offensive. What's offensive about Epic?
It's stupid. Yeah. Okay. It's like It's like you're you're
marketing this to like data center professionals.
Why are you calling it epic? Why don't you just call it elite while you're at
it?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You said you said
inoffensive, though. Okay. No, epic isn't offensive.
It's not offensive. It's like um it's
just a little silly. I mean, to be clear, it's not like I
necessarily have a better answer. And
like it's possible they would have wanted to call it Zen server or
something like I don't know what they wanted to call it but there's there's
always complications around you trademark infringement and copyright and
all that kind of stuff. So you know maybe that was the only thing left. Um
but unless it like stood for something really cool then I I don't really I
don't really get this as like a um as an enterprisegrade product.
Now, with that said, we should we got to straw pull this because I was going back
and forth with another with another journalist this morning actually on in
Twitter DMs and uh we were kind of debating debating this whole this whole
thing. You know what? Okay, I'm not going to say what side
anybody was on, but it was uh Ian from Antech. We were chatting about it and
the other side of the argument that got brought up was, "Okay, well, hold on a
minute. What if your typical like data
center, you know, purchaser,
you know, is goes home and watches anime and like
plays video games and like thinks that
things are epic and you know, like is it
really that far off? I don't think it would be that far off.
Okay, so let's let's let's just straw pull this epic. Um,
you know what? At the same time, personally, if I was purchasing this, I
would worry about this being on an invoice that I would be handing to
someone. Okay. Okay. So, cuz I would be like,
maybe they just think I'm buying it cuz it's cool. It doesn't sound like
it sounds flashy and it sounds like something in Toys R Us. It doesn't sound
like serious infrastructure hardware. You know what I mean?
Yeah. But, you know, with that said, it's not like some companies haven't had
a ton of success with that. Oh, definitely. The red cameras,
the red dragon, the red epic, while we're at it, the red weapon.
Yeah. But then, like, at least they spelled it right.
They spelled it. Like, I feel I feel like But seriously, I feel like you'd be more positive about
this if they put an I there instead of a Y. Like, would you like it more if it
was spelled right? Cuz a big part of your defense this
whole time is that it's been silly. I'm going to be honest. No, I wouldn't like
it better. Interesting. Now that they've gone down the path of
Ryzen being R Y.
Okay. So, every the second letter just always has Nope. That's not even the
second one. The eyes. K. R Y. And like
so lame. It it Well, yes, but
I hate that. But if you're good, I hear what you're saying. Be consistent. I I got you. I got you. I
just hate that. Okay. So, so far most professional Yeah. are saying
I'm on and that makes sense because I'm on the unprofessional to neutral side of
things. I don't really care. But I would a part of me would be like gh like I
might have to defend this to someone cuz they're going to be like why did you buy something called an epic?
Why are you buying epic processors like like we just need some infrastructure
stuff. What are you doing? And I'd have to be like gh okay like uh
epic is really good cuz it has a lot of threads and it's cheaper and it has a
lot of memory bandwidth and then by then their eyes glaze over and hopefully they
just sign off on PO. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, okay, everything's fine. But like, that was an
unnecessary amount of communication that had to happen. Yeah. And you know, like the stupid
thing is like we're probably going to we're probably
we're probably going to all like agree that it doesn't matter anymore in a
number of years. But some someone named Lionus Rockin Mandals
in the chat. Um I don't know what's going on there, but said no because
Intel owns the I letter for processors and like obviously like they don't own
it. But that's an interesting point. They might be trying to stay away from the I in anything.
There are lots of words that don't have I's in them. Yeah. Like blind.
What? I'm genuinely confused.
No eyes. Oh. Oh.
Oh, you can have eyes and be blind.
Twitch is booing so hard. It's just like boo.
But that doesn't even make sense cuz you can be blind with eyes still. You don't
have to like have your eyes have been removed to be blind.
Oh, I'm terrible. Ah, I should Yeah, I should just end it all now. Um
Oh my god. Okay, so at any rate,
that was brutal. Let's talk Let's talk about the chip formerly known as Naples. Okay, I was
right. 8 channel DDR4 16 channel DDR4.
What are these articles? So, single for EP,
now known as Epic. Single socket processor scales up to 32
cores. And as far as I know, there will be dual socket variants as well.
Oh, that's fancy. are we getting are we getting some I have I am in touch they want to know
so so basically what um what uh oh I
don't know how much of this I can say um
okay what I can say I can talk generally about server hardware generally speaking
if someone's going to seed you server hardware they're going to be like what
are you going to do with this because if my answer is we're going to run in a
bench they're going to be like cool go buy one
Um, so if we come up with, for me, I want to come up with a really cool
project. So I want a couple of 32 core
epics for a total of 64 cores and I want
to figure out something completely bananas that we can do with it. So
assuming that this What about speed transcoding YP9 8K
footage? Sure, dog. Like you So there's that.
That would be really cool. I had another idea. That would be fun. Um is is that like
something that you so does does that would be wonderful scale
with more CPU cores basically infinitely? Uh there's we're I still talking to
boiler about it. Boiler wants to do this thing which completely makes sense and
I'm totally on board but we can't do it right now because we don't have the infrastructure right now but it's like
distributed transcoding where you like slice up the video and then transcode it
in a bunch of different places on a bunch of different servers with a bunch of different cores. But if we had a 64 core machine would
that be unnecessary? Maybe do it in one place, right?
I don't know. It's still I was talking to Boiler. Apparently, it's like 30
times harder. Yeah, because key frames. But then if you just have like a
monstrous computer then
maybe low. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, I'd be totally down for
that. And then one of the ideas that I wanted to look at is if they've got if
they've got virtualization sorted out a little bit more, and to be specific, I'm
talking about uh KVM. So, Red Hat KVM because that's what Unrade uses. I think
it would be amazing to get my hands on
like a a multi-GPU barebone server much
like what we did for uh 10 gamers one CPU
is just like yes exclamation mark and what get this what I'm thinking is
the entire editing den running off of
one tower six editing six 10 core
editing workstations off of a single tower Nice.
So, that's kind of something that I have in mind for what I'd like to do with it.
So, I'm going to I'm going to try and come up with some cool projects, but um
yeah, basically it's this this thing is
unbelievable. So, 8 core memory up to 16 dims per CPU. Um
they've got uh Epic provides up to 128
PCI Express 3.0 no lanes allowing you to connect more GPUs directly to the CPU
and that's really important for machine learning type applications. We've got
our unboxing of SFUS the fastest
supercomput in Canada. So I I went down there and they've got they've got a ton
of GPU nodes and they would love to have
the GPUs connected directly to the PCIe lanes on the CPU. In fact, we were
talking about that for it's in my notes uh but I don't remember exactly what
workload specifically it was where intergpU communication is incredibly
important and the more hubs that you have to pass through the worse. And then
I I even talked to it's so cool talking to like these highle architect guys. I'm
like, "Okay, well, what about Envy Link?" And he's like, "Yeah, the cost
just wasn't right for what we're doing." And it's it's all these kinds of
tradeoffs where normally as a consumer, you hear about this crap and you've got
NVIDIA on a stage with freaking wood screws and whatever it is that they're
talking about going, "This is the future of blah blah blah." But then, you know,
to us that this is all totally unattainable stuff. Whereas you're
talking about people who are working on data centers that are in the value of 10
to 20 million where they are actually
taking like a $2 million solution and a
$3 million solution and evaluating it the same way that we would like two
different laptops. Yeah. But that they're just working on a
different scale. It's all the same conversations. It's like do I want to
pay this much more for this much more performance increase? and they just for
their design it didn't end up making sense and uh and it was going to add
some cost and I don't know the exact numbers so there's no like ND8
information that I could hope to give you I just know that they didn't use it and they opted for these uh they opted
for certain GPU nodes some of the GPU nodes for certain workloads are
connected directly to the CPUs and some of them are not
depending on what they're needed for and these ones are higher cost I was just like oh cool
that's pretty fancy you guys are so baller I love
Um, so Epic is expected to launch before
the end of June. You can tell AMD is in full-on crisis mode about their stock uh
dropping what was it two weeks ago. Oh my goodness, we have so much stuff
coming. We have stuff. Please just wait. We have
so much stuff. Um, even Radeon Technologies Group was
showing off stuff. So, this was originally posted by PC Gamer 324 on the
forum. The original article here is from
uh oh three. Did I say three? Okay. No,
digital trends. Here we go. AMD's Radeon Vega Frontier Edition is
the most powerful graphics card yet according to AMD.
All right. So, the numbers put forth by AMD are as
follows. It'll have 64 next generation
compute units. So that's 13 teraflops of peak single precision 32-bit compute
performance, which should put it in the neighborhood of NVIDIA's top cards. I
think their top card is 12. Uh, and that's a Quadro
uh P6000. Don't quote me on that, but I'm trying
to look this up as quickly as I can. Uh,
Quadro P6000. Yeah, 12 teraflops for
their top-of-the-line Quadro, which is about a $5,000 graphics card. What else
do we know about it? It I wasn't sure about all the stuff you
said cuz I was checking in with something. Uh 16 gigs of HBM2 memory. So, that's
pretty impressive on a super wide 2048 bit bus.
Have you Have you shown them the Shroud? Uh the Shroud looks freaking sick.
Yeah, AMD finally gets it on the Shroud.
Although, if it's like plastic and kind of cheesy looking, then I really don't know if that's going to be that
impressive. To be fair, the last one that they came out that was plastic and cheesy looking,
once it was in a case, it was actually a little hard to tell,
right? Okay. Fair. Still, but like not amazing, but it wasn't that bad. Um, so they're saying
that Vega's memory architecture can access terabytes of memory. And we've
actually seen them kind of move beyond
the like the memory that's like HBM2 or GDDR
memory that is soldered to the board. And uh what was that uh what was that
professional card that was using SSDs? Like it was using NAND in order to have
I I forget how much memory it was on it. I'm sorry you guys. I wish I had like a
more exact uh set of talking points for this, but they were showing it off at
CES and uh the idea was that they were using NAND flash in order to
dramatically increase the amount of of the basically the size of the project
that you could work on because it's still faster since you've got a nice
lightning fast interface than trying to go out to like a scratch disc or
something. So, apparently AMD is claiming that they've done several
benchmarks with it. And the Vega Frontier Edition is apparently 70%
faster in Solid Works.
Okay, which is like pretty insane. Another program that I haven't personally heard
of called Katya, I'm hoping I'm saying that correctly, is it's 27% faster in
Okay, which is pretty wild. I mean, AMD has
been known from time to time.
Sorry, I didn't mean to get an ice cube in my mouth and now,
okay, it's gone now. So, AMD has been known to cherrypick benchmarks from time
to time. Um,
but still, it's promising and like that happened last time. You
just reorganized everything. Control Z that. um that happened last time with
their CPUs to a certain degree, but then
a big part of what they're claiming did end up being true. That's right. And what we do know based
on that it's not getting completely stomped on is that we're going to have
competition. Yeah. At least until NVIDIA trickles down Volta
and like Yeah, fair. But uh the like
with their CPU, what they were claiming did completely end up being true. Yeah.
So if you're into Solid Works, there's one really cool thing that just
happened. Yeah. But again, it depends on how you're benchmarking that specifically,
what kind of projects you're working on, what you have in Solid Works at that time.
This is basically the AMD show at this point. Laptops are coming. Ryzen Mobile,
Ryzen Pro, the original article is Trusted Reviews. Let's go ahead and pull
that up. Don't worry, we'll get through this eventually. Ryzen finally comes to
laptops. This I'm actually excited about. I would love to have like a six
or an 8 core laptop. That would be awesome. I don't know if they're going
to be able to get the power low enough and I haven't actually looked that
closely at this yet, but like six core laptop would be freaking awesome. AMD is
claiming 50% more CPU performance than its previous 7th generation APUs. Lordy,
I would hope so. Yeah, and a lot of these claims are a little
whimsical, I think, cuz they're from kind of, you know, older stuff. So, 40%
better graphics performance and a 50% cut in power, but you're jumping quite a
few categories there. quite a few generations um of improvement that
Intel's been making. So, they might not be leaprogging Intel, but I guess the
promise here is that they're going to be competitive. And then they also
announced Ryzen Pro, a version designed for business PCs.
Wow. So much actually kind of weird. Like I I get it, Pro Professional, but
for a long time Pro has been like a gaming thing. Yeah. Like higher just like higher
performance. Yeah. So that's actually a little bit weird.
Um, but oh well. Like I feel like Ryzen's
smart or like even just Ryzen business
would have been cool. So come back up a little bit.
Did it help them to kind of announce all this stuff?
Kind of looks like it. Um, I mean they haven't quite recovered from
uh this was when they did their uh their quarterly earnings report, right? Yeah.
Okay. Well, yeah. We'll see how that goes. I mean, I don't know what here's the
thing. I don't know what people were expecting
from that quarterly earnings report. Like, if I That's fairly accurate to what they
guessed. If I invested in tech companies, I I
would actually love to know what our viewers think. Like, should I be allowed to invest in tech companies? Cuz I I'd
love to I'm allowed to, but I have to disclose
it. Okay. Yeah. But like, it's it's a matter of
whether they will allow me to. I I would have I would have probably
bought some AMD right after that drop because it was the drop was based on
people having completely unrealistic an unrealistic reaction to what AMD has
been doing over the last quarter. It's like Ryzen 7 and even Ryzen 5 are the
tip of the iceberg, you guys. That's like the enthusiast gamer chip and then
the like slightly less enthusiast gamer chip. Where they're going to move volume
is Ryzen 3 and where they're going to make margin and start to be profitable
is going to be products like Threadripper and Epic. So I yeah I don't know
what people were asking for there. Um,
not only that, but you know, any new product is going to take some time to
ramp up in terms of yields, in terms of having stock on the shelves, in terms of
uh the platform maturing a little bit. I mean, I don't know if you guys noticed,
but you didn't hear from us, run out and
buy Ryzen in the first 6 weeks because
it was it it was promising. And we were
confident that AMD and their partners like ASUS and Gigabyte and MSI, we were
confident they were going to get all this stuff addressed,
but it wasn't yet. And when you buy a
computer, it needs to work on the day you buy it. So, I mean, a lot of people
criticized us for doing a Core i5 build guide uh shortly after the launch of
Ryzen, but the reality of it was when we were filming that, we weren't ready to
say go buy a Ryzen PC yet. Now to be
clear, it has improved a lot like a lot.
So I am expecting over the next quarter or two these kinds of results to change
in a big way. Sorry. Oh, no problem. Uh oh, they want
me to do a straw poll. Okay, you know what? I I'm going to I'm going to do a
straw poll whether I should be allowed to invest in tech companies.
Oh,
see like Yeah, I don't know. I I don't know.
So, to be clear, I actually Oh, this is something I've been meaning to talk
about on W show for quite some time. Um,
we are working on like a private deal
with a much much smaller tech company. So, maybe I'll talk about it after our
after our ad break. But, um,
what is actually bad about that? Well, it creates a potential conflict of
interest. Like, if I own Oh, yeah. Then then yeah,
if I own a bunch of NVIDIA stock as a viewer I cuz I thought I thought we
were looking at the like insider trading side of things. No, I don't think that's an issue. Um
because I can just not buy when I know anything. And that's
pretty easy to do because I think you know if you were to just go, okay, the
embargo's up 3 minutes later now that everyone knows all the same things I
know go by. Go by. I mean, you can you could kind of
beat the rush on that kind of thing if you wanted to. Is it an advantage? Yes.
But is it against the law? As far as my understanding goes, no, it wouldn't be,
right? So, as a viewer, I would say no. You would say no. Go ahead and cast your
vote. Um cuz so for me, where I where
I've kind of drawn the line already because like I said, we are working on
an investment deal with a really really small company. Um, so where I kind of
draw the line is that if it's stuff that we cover um
competiti like uh the competitors of like if it's stuff where it's kind of
one option or the other and where I'm in a position to inflate the appearance of
let's say Intel versus So would you be declaring in every single video that you
cover this one mono company on? I'm saying mono because you're not covering
other ones in its space that you have ownership.
No, I think because to a certain degree that makes every single video an ad.
Yeah, I think the disclosure uh regulations are such that you talk about
it only in the context of talking about
that company. So let's say I owned a bunch of shares of Intel. If we are
going to talk about an Intel news story, I need to have a thing up that says um I
disclaimer I am long Intel or something like that. Like you have to clarify your
your position. You say I am long Intel. Yeah, long Intel. So So I am I I have a
long-term investment in Intel. Whereas you would say I'm short Intel. If you
think Intel's going to have a big quarter and you want to kind of put in
some money, grab it, back out. Yeah. So, long or short? Yeah.
Um, and I I think medium, but I'm not sure. Like, I'm not an expert on this
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It's nice. Savage jerky time. Yay! I get Reaper
again. Well, you don't have to eat Reaper. You could have the uh
You could have the ghost pepper buffalo sauce. I'm going to do ghost pepper
buffalo sauce today. Yeah, I'm doing it. Which one's hotter? I don't remember.
Is that six or five? Take that one. No, take that one. No, not taking the reaper. I don't I
don't want to do the reaper. This one's your favorite one, right? Uh no, no. All of my uh I the maple the
maple bacon one. Maple bacon. Yeah, the maple bacon one. I just ate it
all after the show. I really like the Mojo habanero. That's
my favorite one. Yeah. So, good amount of spice. You can tell it's like the second or
third Savage jerky spot when it's like the stuff that we absolutely cannot
resist is just all gone.
Okay. Well, this is my favorite one, but he hid it from me,
so I couldn't have any more of it.
Are you good so far? You had the ghost pepper.
So, you didn't have quite the hottest one. This one's actually still sealed.
The ghost pepper and buffalo sauce
is hot enough for me. But basically,
you want some ghost pepper? Jake does really good with spice.
I would probably throw it. He's he's he's very spice tolerant. All
right. So, Savage Jerky.
See that one? Where? Where'd it go? Mojo habanero gives you a bit of a kick.
Mhm. But it's not like like it's not doing that to me. Like I feel good. It woke me
up a little bit. It's definitely spicy. It definitely hits you. My mouth is
burning, but it's like Yeah. an okay amount of burning. I'm not I'm
not having uncontrollable hiccups. I get hiccups when stuff's spicy.
So, you can buy a mix. You can get like cracked pepper and sea salt. Yeah.
And a few other ones. And like find your find your sweet spot like I did with
Mojo. Now, to be clear, your friend is good. It's just what you
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And the goal was to create a snack that's full of flavor and spice that
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And uh this is in my notes. People seem
to love the Sriracha bacon, maple buffalo bacon, and the traditional
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That's cool. So, use offer code LTT to save 10% over at savagejerky.com.
The cracked pepper and sea salt is like a really good but more traditional
styled beef jerky. Yeah. The problem with that one is that you can rip through a whole pack of it
in like 2 minutes. Yeah. So yeah, if you want to like troll your
friends and get a ghost pepper or reaper or something like that, it works.
Or you might just like it. If you first bite, it's actually easier.
It gets a little bit easier. Yeah, it does get easier.
All right. It's It's It's also when you stop,
though. Mhm. Cuz it gets easier after the first bite
and then for a while, but then when you stop eating it. Oh, yeah. No. Then then it hits you
again. So LTX LTX is the uh tech carnival that we're
doing in the summer. We're going to have booths, games, prizes, and us, the whole
LMG team will be there. Um, a few examples of the kinds of booths that
we're going to have. Like, we wanted it to be just kind of goofy. So, it's going
to be stuff like guess how many CPUs are in the jar. Um,
video editing with Taran. Yeah, like the jelly bean thing, but like
CPUs. I think FreeGeek's probably going to be in front of So, they'll be there with like, you
know, just some Oh, free geek's going to be there. Maybe. Maybe. Okay. TBD, but like we're we're in talks with
actually a lot of pretty cool folks. Um, uh, one other example would be the case
toss. So, we're going to get a case manufacturer to give us uh, some cases.
Is that nailed down now? Um, not exactly who, but someone's going
to do it. Okay. Okay. Cuz I'm pretty excited about that, and I know there's a few people
that are pretty excited about that. We're going to do like a VR with Luke demo. So, basically, you'll be like kind
of showing people the Oh, that's exciting. That's cool. I've been wondering this
whole time what I was going to do. That's really cool. And then Taran's probably going to be
doing like he'll have an LTT video and
he'll just be working on it the whole time. So, you could actually watch Taran
edit. You can ask him questions. That's been a great idea. We're not expecting him to actually get
anything done because people will be like blah blah blah. But, like, if
people want to see how it's done in person, I thought that would be really cool. We're just going to like pick up
his workstation and take it there. So, we've got a lot of really cool ideas.
There's at least a few hundred people coming so far.
So, it's not going to necessarily be like over a thousand people and crazy,
but that may actually be a blessing in disguise because at least that way we're
going to be covering with uh like a
significant title sponsor. We should be able to cover most of the cost of the
venue already. And um and it'll actually
it could end up being a pretty intimate event. Although, now that I say that, if everyone's like, "Oh, yeah. I want to go
to an infinite. So, no guarantees.
How many people are going on your limo ride? Um I think that sold out.
Whoa. 10. Yeah. Cool.
So, that was that happened faster than I expected. Um
I thought at when I first read that that by the limo they meant the Civic.
No. No. Then I was like, "Oh, that's too many people." Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. 10 people in my Civic would be like pretty intimate
as that goes. All right, I want to talk about this.
Um, W to Cry collects basically no
ransom despite infecting 200,000
machines. So, the deadline is uh is
beginning to pass here. The original article is from Bloomberg.
I have a theory. Um, and apparently the attackers have
claimed only about $92,000 in payments.
Huh? How about that? So, my theory is if this happened like a
number of years ago, like when I was still in high school, I think it would
have actually been a lot more impactful because now I think if people like have
a baby now or get engaged now, all their
photos go up on social media. So, it's not their one backup that's on
their computer. And I think what they ran into here was if people had super
important stuff, the 300 bucks was not
good, but probably not the end of the world. And then other people are like,
"Oh, well, this is a fairly major inconvenience, but I can go get my
computer reformatted and everything's fine because everything I do is in a
browser." Notice how they're releasing computers that are like almost just browsers these days.
So like for a lot of people it's like, "Oh, what the heck is this?" they show it to some
techie friend or they bring it to Geek Squad. They're just like, "Oh yeah, we can do it cheaper than that ransom price
anyways, but we have to do some stuff." And then people that are like, "Oh my
goodness, this is mission critical information. 300 bucks for like a big
business sucks, but like
not the end of the world." So if even 1% of people had paid the
ransom, it would have worked out to over six times the amount they actually
collected. So I feel like almost no Joe Schmoes
actually paid for it. And it gets worse because of the attention on this
particular case. The authorities think it's unlikely the monies the attackers
have received will be transferred from Bitcoin to more traditional currencies
due to the risk of it being detected. With that said, there's a lot of stuff
you can buy with Bitcoin. So, I don't think that's as big a problem as some
people might. Yeah, but they could they could still track that to a certain degree,
right? I guess that's true. Like that money is sketch depending on but but okay. But they
might do for sure. They might buy very illegitimate things,
scatter it around, and then Yeah. What up?
Very easy to like mix the Bitcoin.
Yeah. No, it should be fine.
Um Oh, really? Apparently, people sell like mixing it up and obscuring it as a
service. That's cool. I don't know enough about Bitcoin. Why do you know this? Go away.
Jake is secretly running Silk Road 3 right now
out of his house. He told me this offline.
Great. Yeah. Yeah.
Jake, can I have a favor? Yeah. Can I have more water, please?
Oh my god. You have to pay him in Bitcoin through
his secret onion website. Thank you. I'm dying.
Thank you. And ice, too. Thank you.
But it's okay. Is that how that works?
Yeah. I like have like mut built up in
my throat. I can hear the Oh, your throat's even red here.
Well, that's probably from I always have a redneck. Okay.
Yeah, I was born in the sticks. Um Oh,
okay. Saying you need milk. I don't think we just have milk. Yeah, we don't, unfortunately. And yes,
I know milk works a lot better than water. Um, so this was originally posted
on the forum by WM Groom AK and the original article is from the tech
report. Optane dims and companion CPUs will
arrive in 2018. So if you haven't been
paying attention to this, Optane DIMs
are going to be super high capacity modules, too.
That will fit in Kidding. I'm kidding. It's fine.
Ah, much better. Super high-capacity
modules that will fit in otherwise normal RAM slots as far as I know. Then
there will be a like a a special BIOS
configuration that allows you to use it as a slower kind of uh so if you got
your level one cache and your level two cache, your level three cache, I guess
in some cases there's level four, but don't worry about it. Then your next tier is DRAM. And then traditionally
your next tier was NAND but it's like many orders of magnitude slower. So
Optane sits in between. And uh what this
will allow you to do is have massive effective
memory capacity for your system without needing so many dim slots and without
spending so much. So, when we were checking out SFU's supercomputer, one of
the things that they told us was that
Oh, okay.
Their uh their systems that needed 1 and
a half terabytes uh excuse me, yeah, wait. Yeah, one and a half terabytes of
memory had to be 2U just so they could fit all those RAM slots. Then
the systems that were going to be used for workloads that needed even more
memory than that, the 3 TB memory systems of which I think they only have
four had to be four U systems with quad
sockets. But get this, the quad socket
CPUs they were using were eight cores. So their quad socket systems actually
had the same number of cores as their
dual 16 core socket systems
or their dual socket 16 core systems. So 30 uh yeah 32 total and so because the
only reason they needed it was so they could have more RAM. So this could solve
that problem as long as the workloads that they're using can are okay with the
data being a little bit slower but not as slow as trying to put it on NAND
flash. Someone just asked me what I'm eating. We literally just did a sponsor spot.
It's Savage Jerky. I'm just still eating their stuff. Um, another cool thing is
that they're saying that it's supposed to be cheaper, lower prices than DRAM.
Yes. Much cheaper than DRAM, which like usually happens with new
technologies over time. It's not super
common for that to happen with a new technology right out of the gate. So,
that's pretty cool. But it's intended to be because it's
it's designed to be an order of magnitude bigger than DRAM, but also a
lot cheaper to sit right in between NAND and DAM. I'm actually I'm super excited
to see where this takes us in the future. Oh, I realized I should probably
talk about the deal that we are working on. So, we've been we've been working
with Lime, makers of Unrade, for
a year and a half now, I think, going all the way back to Oh, no, cuz Seven
Gamers 1 CPU was a year and a half ago. Yeah. So, it would have been closer to two
years now, I guess. Wow. Really? Anyway,
so we've worked with them on a number of projects. We use their software and I
like it so much that basically what we're what we're working on is an
agreement where I would actually take a stake in the company and I would be
working with them on future development. Um we've seen it in action in terms of
where it's at today, but I think that there's a lot of stuff that we could
help with that would make it so that they could really take things to the
next level. So basically that's where I'm at on that. um nothing is finalized
so I can't really I can't really give any more detail than that but I just
thought in the interest of you guys understanding you know sort of what
we're up to over here I want to make sure that that's clear uh the reason
that I was comfortable with lime even though I have specifically gone out of
my way to not buy shares in companies like AMD and Intel is that we don't
really cover their competitors I mean not just in the last 2 years but even
you go back a couple years before that we basically don't touch NAS systems.
Um, and the reason for that is because we just don't really like most of them.
We don't think they're we don't think they're userfriendly. We don't think they're that easy to use. Uh, which is
the same thing. That's the main reason that I don't like them. I tried.
Um, and quite frankly, viewer interest is
not that high. And a lot of the stuff that we've done with Unrade has really
been more about the other functionality that it has. So like the uh the
virtualization and stuff like that. So yeah, that's basically where I'm at on
that. Um
so what else do we got? I mean, we got actually a lot of topics this week.
These are scrap wars. Yeah, I'm I'm down. How are we How are
we going to do that again? Jump to random part.
Okay, so I don't know how to do I Oh,
you know what? I never figured out the audio input.
So, that's a thing that I didn't do. Um,
let's go ahead and How did we do it last time? Uh, I held up the laptop to the
microphone, which was terrible. Um, so
that might be the only way to do this. Well, it's not the only way, but it's
the only way. Why can't you listen to it over HDMI right now? Because I don't know either.
These don't take audio or go right click on it.
Uh what? Yeah. Go to cam real quick.
Go to cam. Yeah. Change the audio from built-in/none to
the recorder that you wanted to come from. Never mind. There they go. See why? What
would I do without you? What would I do without you?
Probably a lot of the same stuff. It just wouldn't be as fun. Or as good.
Yeah. Yeah. Yay. Yay, Luke.
So, uh, Scrapyard War season 5 episode 1
is hopefully this works up already over on Float Playing Club.
Oh, hold on. Well, you got to play back devices.
Oh, I can't hear that in my monitor, which is super scary because I have no
idea what kind of volume I'm outputting at. So, uh, I'm sure Twitch chat will be
telling me if I broke their eard drums. If you plugged it into the computer
directly, you would hear it.
Yeah, in theory, this is that's how this is supposed to work, but I forgot which
one I'm supposed to plug into. So, cuz I'm really really dumb.
Apparently, they can hear and it's a little bit too loud. Okay. Well, then
most people are saying it's good, though. The vast majority of people are saying it's good. So, go like a little
bit down and then So, we'll call that good. So, so you
just want to skip to So, 45minute episode. Actually, 46 minute episode. Do
you just want to skip to a random spot? Sure. I don't know. I don't even know
what's going to come up. Okay. Why are we watching in 360p?
That's peasant. That's peasant stuff. Peasant stuff.
I have before. Do you see that playback? You see that lightning fast playback? Hold on. Hold
on. Stop. Here. Here. Listen for the click. And we click. One of the things too is
that West Coast North America is like not even a good area for us.
We're going to be $25 over. I don't even know what we're doing here.
Me neither. $25 over. Oh, do we not have the preview working
for such long yet? I guess maybe.
Interesting. Makes sense. Two drives for 10 bucks.
I wonder what we're figuring out here. It looks suspenseful.
Yeah. Yeah, I know what that is. Yeah, I know what's going on. I know what's going on. Calling up um here. Let's see if
Okay. Okay. Okay. So, that that's enough. So, basically, what what was the
point of this? So, Scrapyard Wars episode 1 is coming
out. That right there is coming out on YouTube tomorrow.
Tomorrow. If you want to see episode two tomorrow,
you can sign up for Floatplane and you can see that today, episode one today,
and then watch episode two tomorrow and be totally caught up on the Floatplane
side of things. Um, also really cool note, this is what I wasn't sure about
telling you guys last time. We now have
some load balancing going on with geos. So, a lot of people in Australia and the
kind of general European area um have
noticed a lot of improvements. That's because we have some like kind of more
onloation servers for you guys up and running with some load balancing going
on. Do you want to say where they are? Yeah, Australia. So, Australia and the
other ones in France, but it should be able to better serve you than ones in
Canada. So, yeah, a lot of people from various countries around Europe have had
a much better experience um than before when everyone was just
going through Canadian servers. We are going to continue to expand. So, if
you're in an area that like isn't super great right now, ironically, where we
are is like not the greatest, it's good. You just watched the playback. It's
good. Um, it could be slightly better and it will be slightly better because
we'll eventually have West Coast servers. Um, but yeah, if you're in an
area and you are consistently not getting super great bandwidth, I'm not
hearing this very often, almost not at all. But if you are, let me know where
you're from and we will look into getting that better. To be clear, like the infrastructure
upgrades we're making right now have nothing to do with capacity for the platform. Um,
like there's a lot more people on it than you would probably think,
but it's not like, you know, a billion people or anything like YouTube or
something. It's more just trying to make user experience better. Yeah.
I mean, this is the kind of boring stuff
that takes months to work on and figure out before you want to launch and like
bring a bunch of other creators. Yeah. And it's frustrating when like we're an international group and we have
people from North America watching all the footage and they're like everything
looks great. I can watch 1080p. Everything it's snappy. Hooray. And then someone from Australia is like I have to
download it. Or like I can sometimes watch it in
360p. And I'm like that's not fair. People watch us from everywhere. I want
this to work well for everyone even if it cost us more. So now we're doing that.
Um so we're actually going to do like a more Floatplane another Floatplane Q&A
after the WAN Show. if you guys want to kind of hang around for that. Um,
otherwise, I think we've got a few more pretty good topics for you.
Um, anyways, one quick, actually, no, we have like nothing. Oh,
wait, no, we do have more. There's also a little teaser of episode
two on Floatplane only. So, if you're a Floatplane guy and you haven't been
there on there in a couple days, jump on there. Check out the teaser for Scrapper
Wars episode 2. It's it's it's pretty good.
What? Huh? So, actually, I did not know about
this. So, this was posted by WM Groom AK on the forum. The original article is
from RS Technica. And it looks like
Google gets to keep their trademark even
though it has turned into a generic term
for searching the web. So, going back to our notes here, when a brand name
becomes completely ubiquitous, like thermos, I didn't even know teleprompter
was a brand name. Me neither. And videotape. Didn't know that was a
brand name. Oh my goodness. either it can lose its legally protected
status. So the this process is called genericide and in 2012 Google filed a
cyber squatting complaint and claimed trademark infringement when a man
registered 763 domain names that
combined Google with other words and phrases including googledonaldTrump.com.
Oh, what a jerk. I see what he was doing there. So, the man filed an appeal
citing genericide and the court ruled that Google still retains its trademark
even if the term Google has become known for searching the internet.
So, how does that actually work though? Um, I have no idea. I mean, John would
be a more sort of cuz like sensible person to talk about this. Hey,
hey, hey, John.
He's coming. He's coming. All right. I'm giving up my seat. I'm giving up my
seat. Okay. John's coming in to talk about Janera's side. John, generic side.
All right. This thing, eh? Okay. Hit me or Luke.
Hit something. Yeah, there you go. Good job. Uide.
Google almost potentially lost its trademark on Google because like, oh,
I'll just Google it has become a general term for looking something up on the
internet. Um, someone sued them over it
because they tried to take down a bunch of his domains and blah blah blah blah.
And he was like, "Okay, so you used a lot of pronouns there. Okay, let's see.
In 2012, Google filed a cyber squatting complaint and claimed trademark
infringement when a man registered 763
domain names that combined Google with other words and phrases such as Googled
Donald Trump.com. The man filed an appeal citing genericide. The court
ruled that ruled that Google still retains its trademark even if the term
Google has become known for searching the internet. So, how does that work?
Um, isn't that literally the even though Google has become known for searching
the internet? Isn't that the whole point of genericide? Uh, it is. Um, genericide is kind of um
it's not a hard and fast rule. It's not
like, oh, after a certain amount of time or a certain number of people say it in
a generic manner, it becomes generic. It's a little bit squishy. Uh, but they
do look at things like um and I don't know what happened in this case because
I just have the one little note in front of me, but they could have looked at something like, oh, has Google taken a
lot of the steps to protect its trademark? Um, you know, back uh back in
the day before um um when when
photocopers were still like a like more
of a cutting edge thing than they are now, um people would say, "Oh, Xerox
it," you know, to make a copy even though there were tons of copers not
made by Xerox, right? So, Xerox actually took out like a big newspaper ad say
saying or telling people say, "Make a copy. Don't say Xerox because they're
trying to protect their trademark." So if Google maybe Google showed that they
were taking um active steps to protect the trademark. So
maybe it also helps them because Google puts their Google branding on way more
things than just a browser. They do. Yeah, that might help. I have no idea.
Yeah, maybe. It's like I said, it's kind of a squishy area of law. I'm not
surprised that Google won. Um it takes
it takes like quite Yeah. I mean, just aside from the money they have to spend,
it takes it takes a lot for a trademark to become generic. So,
yeah. Yeah. So, there we go. Cool. That's it. I think that's it.
Okay. Carry on, gentlemen.
I'm back. The FAA's drone registry requirement got shot down. The original
article is from TechCrunch. Let's go ahead and pull that up. But basically, a
federal appeals court shoots down
the FAA's drone registry registry requirement. It's likely that the FAA
will appeal this decision or take some other approach uh which seems to be very
common in the states with stuff like net neutrality being tried like a billion times under a billion different names.
So drone hobbyist John Taylor argued that the Federal Aviation Administration
doesn't have jurisdiction over what the law classifies as model aircraft. Um the
registration database was proposed in 2015 to address growing drone ownership
in the US which has brought with it privacy and safety concerns. Um, so
there that's basically where we're at on that. So stay tuned for more and um,
yeah, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, winners
of the Casemod World Series 2017
posted by Rod Rosenberg on the forum. Man, I hate that guy.
Was it Rod? Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know if Rod won.
Did he post his own winning?
Let's see. No. No, it doesn't look like it. Was he in it or was he a judge? Yeah.
Where? I don't uh I have a feeling he has something to do
with this. I'm just trying to find like a Oh, okay. No, there's
there's no uh no BS mods. Maybe he says something in the link.
Yeah, I can't click on it though.
Okay, so the first winner was uh
Oh, no. I think he just thinks it's cool. That's cool. Vega by S Russia.
Yes, Russia. No, no, not FPS Russia. That's a different thing. But good try.
Good try. Thank you, Nick. Um, it looks cool.
That's apparently made out of a Mastercase 5.
It looks like they just chopped it like
pretty early on. Completely unrecognizable.
Well, no. The the the very bit at the front, this bit is recognizable. And
then that's it. Then it stops.
Under goes a complete structural change. Yeah, we noticed the complete structural
change. We did notice that. Pretty pretty intense. Yeah.
Like, hey, here's a case. We'll we'll just take the top quarter of it. You can
take the rest. We don't need it. Not a big deal.
That's awesome. What is that based on? Those are pretty cool. Like a stacker or something.
Futuristic ideas and metal uh modded 30.
Okay. Yeah, I can see that. Cool. PSU on the side. Just put the PSU
over there. Seems to be kind of open like you can see the graphics card. You
can see You're pretty neat. That's actually really pretty cool. It looks really good. Yeah.
All right, and that's pretty much it. Thank you for tuning in to the WAN Show.
We will see you again next week. Same bat time, same bat channel.
Outro. Oh, yeah. I'm really not firing on all
cylinders today. That's cool.
Actually, I am. I'm just in other places.
What's up? Someone's like, "Finally, a good W show episode." Good job, guys.
I'm surprised. That was decent. We're so
hungry. Yeah, last week sucked, but I thought the one before that was pretty good.
Yeah. Oh. Oh, that's
the afterparty for last week was wonderful.