WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.820 I've heard a lot of people say that the Xbox 360 controller 00:00:03.820 --> 00:00:07.560 is their favorite controller ever. It's certainly up there for me, 00:00:07.560 --> 00:00:12.440 and in its generation, oh boy, did it ever kick the PS3 controller's butt. 00:00:12.440 --> 00:00:15.520 First generation Xbox's revision control, 00:00:15.520 --> 00:00:19.600 the S, kicks the PS2's butt. I don't like the GameCube controller. 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.560 You don't like having a good analog stick on the right side? 00:00:23.560 --> 00:00:28.440 No, I'm used to it. The idea of this controller, as you can see, 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:33.440 is to bring back 100% the Xbox 360 controller. 00:00:35.020 --> 00:00:37.360 It looks, feels, smells, 00:00:39.040 --> 00:00:45.080 and this one smells old. It's definitely a little bit lighter. That being said, they are only producing a wired variant, 00:00:45.080 --> 00:00:50.560 which at first kind of seems like a bit of a shame, but then I realize how much trouble wireless can be. 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:53.560 It's nice just to like plug it in and have it work. 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:57.160 Let's see what's else is in this box. Come on, to that end, 00:00:57.160 --> 00:01:01.880 there's what seems to be a very long USB Type-C cable. 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:06.760 Proprietary stuff always sucks, but USB-C is definitely a huge win. 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:08.720 This is long though. 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:15.120 I'll go down, it's 10 feet. It might not be long enough if it's your living room PC, 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.400 and you have to kind of plug around the back or run around some stuff, 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.560 but for most scenarios, especially if you're right around your PC, 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:26.400 10 feet is more than enough. Thank you for not cheaping out on that hyperkinx. 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:31.560 Outside of that, we get a sticker, quick start guide, and a little purchase cardboard. 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:34.660 I'm bringing in my actual 360 controller. 00:01:34.660 --> 00:01:39.240 It's a little beat up, but it'll give us an idea of the comparison. 00:01:39.240 --> 00:01:43.160 It's the same, cool. Hey, video's done. Thank you for watching this video. 00:01:43.160 --> 00:01:47.880 Before we even compare, let me give you just kind of general hand feel. 00:01:47.880 --> 00:01:53.560 First impression is it's fairly light. It almost feels like it doesn't have rumble in it, 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.720 but it does, and it actually has rumble triggers, which is a cool little update, 00:01:57.720 --> 00:02:01.360 bringing it up to par with the Xbox One and Series X controllers. 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:06.600 The plastics feel pretty convincing in terms of almost feeling as good as the Microsoft's ones. 00:02:06.600 --> 00:02:09.840 They feel a little bit cheaper. They're stiff and rigid, 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:15.760 but the texture on it is a little bit off. I might just be used to 15 year old controllers 00:02:15.760 --> 00:02:19.160 and the touch of that. The screw layout looks pretty identical. 00:02:19.160 --> 00:02:25.120 I almost wonder if they got the exact moldings for Microsoft. This is actually an Xbox branded product, 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:29.720 and so it wouldn't surprise me if they got the official molding from Microsoft themselves. 00:02:29.720 --> 00:02:33.000 If you didn't tell me that this wasn't a first party controller, 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.740 I would have a hard time saying it's not. 00:02:36.740 --> 00:02:39.840 It shares the same strengths, which was the great triggers for the time, 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:44.440 good analog sticks, very comfortable shape, and it shares the ultimate weakness, 00:02:44.440 --> 00:02:46.280 which is the worst D-pad of all time. 00:02:47.720 --> 00:02:54.200 Different sound. I don't think they feel quite as good. I think the original ones feel a little bit better 00:02:54.200 --> 00:02:57.880 in terms of analog sticks. They feel fairly light. 00:02:57.880 --> 00:03:03.240 I use mostly a dual sense and a third party Xbox one controller, 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.680 and both sticks feel a little stiffer than this. Not the end of the world. 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.000 I know some people like that really snappy feeling, 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.440 but I find they feel a little cheap. These are potentiometer based sticks. 00:03:14.440 --> 00:03:19.320 They're not Hall Effect, unfortunately, but in a product such as this, I'm not super surprised. 00:03:19.320 --> 00:03:22.480 The clickiness of the sticks actually feels a little bit better on the Hyperkin 00:03:22.480 --> 00:03:25.640 than the decade old 360 controller, 00:03:25.640 --> 00:03:28.680 but I don't love the plastic finish. 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:33.920 Feels okay, certainly not as good as the Xbox one and Series X controller. 00:03:33.920 --> 00:03:38.200 In terms of buttons in the middle, it has basically the same things, 00:03:38.200 --> 00:03:44.520 start equivalent, select equivalent, and then also a little share button. 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.720 I believe that's what that is. In an absolutely valiant effort 00:03:47.720 --> 00:03:52.720 to redeem the worst D-pad of all time, Hyperkin has made it slightly more clicky, 00:03:52.720 --> 00:03:56.600 so it gives a little more tactile feedback on the direction you're pressing, 00:03:56.600 --> 00:03:59.720 but when I do my street fighter moves test, 00:03:59.720 --> 00:04:05.800 you know, the forward down, quarter circle forward, I could not tell you what's being pressed at that moment, 00:04:05.800 --> 00:04:10.680 whereas on a like a Super Nintendo controller, on a Saturn controller or a PlayStation controller, 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:13.800 you can like, you can feel each part of the press that's going down. 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:19.920 On the top of the controllers, we have the same right bumper, left bumper, that trigger type C versus the original port. 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:25.120 It has the Hyperkin inching versus the Xbox one. Another little upgrade on the bottom 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.880 is instead of this proprietary accessory port, 00:04:28.880 --> 00:04:32.720 we have just a 3.5 inch jack. And I think that's one of the greatest improvements 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:37.280 we've made to controllers over the last 10 years. Although my dream for the Elite series 00:04:37.280 --> 00:04:41.840 and the Edge series on PlayStation is that they would put a good DAC in there 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:46.980 because I find when I plug good headphones into my PS5 controller, it just sounds like doggie doodoo. 00:04:46.980 --> 00:04:51.460 All right, that about does it for the physical exploration. Let's plug this bad boy and test it out. 00:04:51.460 --> 00:04:55.460 Look at me, I was about to plug this in without even showing off the other 00:04:55.460 --> 00:04:58.900 and clearly superior colors. Let's do that. 00:04:58.900 --> 00:05:02.260 That is a really nice red. Ooh, with the gray accents too. 00:05:02.260 --> 00:05:05.980 It's usually hard to beat pink, but I found myself surprised 00:05:05.980 --> 00:05:10.100 by my color choices these days. Amazing experience. 00:05:11.740 --> 00:05:16.460 I don't like the pink. It's cheap. So far, red is in the lead. 00:05:16.460 --> 00:05:20.060 So better than the white. Almost no plastic in this box, 00:05:20.060 --> 00:05:23.220 which I appreciate, this is like a cardboard. The only plastic is around the cable, 00:05:23.220 --> 00:05:28.980 which although it's a shame, pretty acceptable by most packaging standards. 00:05:28.980 --> 00:05:34.180 So nice job, Epican. All right, so now for the David Goche official color rankings, 00:05:34.180 --> 00:05:37.520 what I would buy. I think I would do red, black, pink, white. 00:05:37.520 --> 00:05:43.340 Whatever texture they're using on their plastics makes the pink look really cheap in third party. 00:05:43.340 --> 00:05:47.140 Okay, so each color actually comes with a different color cable. 00:05:47.140 --> 00:05:50.180 So pink comes with pink and red comes with red. 00:05:50.180 --> 00:05:56.220 Okay, it's the details. If you were bringing back the 360 era, 00:05:56.220 --> 00:05:59.580 yeah, you probably want it because you like this controller, 00:05:59.580 --> 00:06:03.780 but you also like the aesthetics of it, you know, that retro aesthetics, 00:06:03.780 --> 00:06:08.420 which is pretty crazy to think the 360 is starting 18 years old this year. 00:06:08.660 --> 00:06:09.820 Old enough to vote. 00:06:12.940 --> 00:06:16.940 I think the general rule is 15 years, but I've heard some people say no. 00:06:16.940 --> 00:06:20.380 One of the strengths of using the Xbox controllers, 00:06:20.380 --> 00:06:23.780 even since the 360 era with the red adapter on a PC 00:06:23.780 --> 00:06:27.540 is that it's instantly designed to work with everything. 00:06:27.540 --> 00:06:31.780 It works with Windows, it works with all the games, Steam can figure it out right away. 00:06:31.780 --> 00:06:36.060 And even older games, even if you use a PlayStation controller on the PC, 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:40.340 we'll still have the Xbox button prompts. Traditionally, when I play PC games with a controller, 00:06:40.340 --> 00:06:45.900 I choose Xbox controllers because it's just a tiny bit easier. 00:06:45.900 --> 00:06:49.780 And that's enough for me, tiny bit easier. I need all the wins I can get in my life, guys. 00:06:49.780 --> 00:06:55.180 I need every single one, okay. First impression, it's way too much rumble. 00:06:55.180 --> 00:06:59.060 Like it's really intense. It's like making my hands feel tingly. 00:06:59.060 --> 00:07:03.060 There is both vibration in the controller body 00:07:03.060 --> 00:07:08.660 and the impulse triggers, although the body is so violently shaking 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:12.660 that I don't feel the triggers at all. It might also be that this game, as it's a Sony game, 00:07:12.660 --> 00:07:15.740 isn't designed to use Xbox controllers to their fullest. 00:07:15.740 --> 00:07:19.380 The trigger feels pretty similar to the 360 one. It's a little light for my tastes 00:07:19.380 --> 00:07:23.060 compared to modern controllers, but it feels pretty good. 00:07:23.060 --> 00:07:24.700 Let's see the shoulder buttons. 00:07:27.580 --> 00:07:32.380 The Hyperkin has the better shoulder buttons. It feels a little more inconsistent on the button press, 00:07:32.380 --> 00:07:35.140 like how much I have to press down on each part. 00:07:36.500 --> 00:07:41.740 But that was a big problem I had with the 360. Like when you press here, it's such a short travel, 00:07:41.740 --> 00:07:45.180 but when you press here, it's like a freaking inch, man. 00:07:45.180 --> 00:07:50.700 I feel like the sticks are tall. The Hyperkin one, the shaft is a little thinner. 00:07:50.700 --> 00:07:54.780 And it looks slightly more elevated from the controller. 00:07:54.780 --> 00:07:58.340 Yeah, definitely. And I don't know if I love that. 00:07:58.340 --> 00:08:01.860 There's sometimes where it's kind of cool to have the extra precision 00:08:01.860 --> 00:08:04.940 that a heightened analog stick can give you. 00:08:04.940 --> 00:08:09.660 Definitely not a deal breaker, but that's something I've kind of generally found 00:08:09.660 --> 00:08:13.820 with Hyperkin controllers. They're generally like pretty darn good, 00:08:13.820 --> 00:08:18.260 especially because they're coming generally at a value price. 00:08:18.260 --> 00:08:21.740 But there's usually like one or two things about them 00:08:21.740 --> 00:08:25.220 that are almost too much of a compromise. 00:08:25.220 --> 00:08:28.740 I have like the Hyperkin Scout, which is their cheap Super Nintendo controller. 00:08:28.740 --> 00:08:32.980 And I really like the D-pad on that, it's very clicky. But then the shoulder buttons are weird enough 00:08:32.980 --> 00:08:37.100 and the whole shape of it's just like a little bit wrong. And that's what I'm finding with this, 00:08:37.100 --> 00:08:40.140 is that it's really close to a 360 controller. 00:08:40.140 --> 00:08:44.020 And if I wasn't holding a real 360 controller in my hand, 00:08:44.020 --> 00:08:50.460 some of these things might not bother me. The resistance feels more similar to the 360 one, 00:08:50.460 --> 00:08:56.420 but it's definitely clickier. And then when you compare it to the modern Xbox controller, 00:08:56.420 --> 00:09:00.900 these things have like almost no feedback. Like it's kind of really easy to press. 00:09:00.900 --> 00:09:05.860 And it makes me sad that that's the direction they went. These feel so much better to me. 00:09:05.860 --> 00:09:09.160 This is slightly too clicky. That's a pretty normal Hyperkin thing. 00:09:09.160 --> 00:09:12.380 I think with a bit of wear after about a year, 00:09:12.380 --> 00:09:19.220 these would feel more similar to the 360 one. The Hyperkin Xenon is a pretty good approximation 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:22.820 of the 360. Getting used stuff is always a roll of the dice. 00:09:22.820 --> 00:09:27.100 You might get lucky, you might get a good deal, or you might get one that's not super worn, 00:09:27.100 --> 00:09:30.820 or you could get one that you open up and has a family of cockroaches living inside. 00:09:30.820 --> 00:09:37.500 Being able to buy a new version of an absolutely beloved and classic controller is really nice. 00:09:37.500 --> 00:09:40.900 The few compromises are a bit of a bummer, especially the sticks. 00:09:40.900 --> 00:09:43.980 Seems like a strange one to me to get so wrong. 00:09:43.980 --> 00:09:48.820 But everything else is a pretty good experience, as long as you can turn down the rumble. 00:09:48.820 --> 00:09:52.820 And so if you really wanna relive the 360 glory era 00:09:52.820 --> 00:09:58.920 with a modern controller, this is a good option, but is it worth the $50 they're asking for? 00:10:00.860 --> 00:10:04.860 I probably would spend the extra $10 and get a modern Xbox controller. 00:10:04.860 --> 00:10:08.000 I think they feel more comfortable, they're more premium. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.340 Yeah, the face buttons and the shoulder buttons are a little bit less good, 00:10:11.340 --> 00:10:17.100 but the D-pad is clicky in the way that you need it to be. And it's just an overall better controller. 00:10:17.100 --> 00:10:20.940 And you can use it wired right of the box, or you can buy a wireless dongle for it. 00:10:20.940 --> 00:10:25.580 And so I have a hard time recommending the Xenon 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:29.520 in less you specifically want the 360 feel, which you might want. 00:10:29.520 --> 00:10:33.760 And in that case, it's pretty good, just like the segue to the conclusion is pretty good. 00:10:33.760 --> 00:10:38.660 Thank you for watching this video. Please like and subscribe. If you wanna check out some more controller review content, 00:10:38.660 --> 00:10:42.100 why don't you check out my video where I unbox the DualSense Edge 00:10:42.100 --> 00:10:44.380 and have some strong opinions.