1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,200 recently it was brought to my attention that some of my friends in the industry 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:10,880 went out looking for a high-speed server for storing and editing their high-res 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,240 video without checking in with me 4 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:18,640 now i am far from the lone authority when it 5 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:22,800 comes to this stuff so it's not like it's impossible to build something 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:29,359 really awesome without my help snazzy Labs managed it just fine it's just also 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:33,360 pretty easy to get completely taken for 8 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:34,880 a ride and when i saw how much i justine 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:39,280 mkbhd and jonathan from tld paid for their 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,360 jellyfish well i wasn't mad i was just 11 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:48,640 hurt and disappointed i mean guys here's the thing with the 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:53,120 exception of tld actually didn't build him anything but for the others of you i 13 00:00:50,879 --> 00:00:57,760 put together reliable mass storage for you because that was 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:03,760 what you said you wanted if you had just told me you want high 15 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:06,960 performance at any cost come on guys it's me 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:12,000 i got your back so i've channeled all of that frustration 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:17,920 into today's video where in collaboration with our special guest 18 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,159 patrick from serve the home great site 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,600 by the way worth checking out after the video 20 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:27,119 serve the home i'll be creating what i call 21 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:33,600 the jellyfish fryer a faster more reliable and just plain 22 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,200 better solution summer break just started but it's never too early to 23 00:01:35,119 --> 00:01:41,200 start looking for a new laptop for back to school every origin pc laptop is 24 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,079 ready for whatever games or school projects you're going to tackle and you 25 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:54,399 can check out their special deals at the link below 26 00:01:54,399 --> 00:02:00,799 so yeah guys those numbers you saw at the beginning of this video that was no 27 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:05,280 typo that was correct a 28 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:10,319 120 terabyte jellyfish costs its lucky 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:12,000 owner about 35 000 us dollars and that's 30 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:17,280 assuming that they don't require lumaforge's vague 31 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:21,680 performance boost option or more than a handful of video editors connected to it 32 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:28,239 but the thing is it gets even crazier than that not only does a 120 terabyte 33 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:31,120 jellyfish not actually have 120 34 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:36,080 terabytes of usable capacity it's closer to 80 by the time you account for the 35 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:41,599 storage space that's lost to redundancy and the about 10 percent of extra 36 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,879 reserved space that lumaforge has left to ensure that zfs functions correctly 37 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,840 now here's the thing this pricing might not 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:56,080 offend me so much if there was something magical about the jellyfish like i don't 39 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,640 know if it used uh Intel ruler NVMe ssds 40 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:02,159 and it fit into like a a ruggedized case that you could throw on your back as 41 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,400 you're slogging through the jungle on an on location shoot or something like that 42 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:11,599 but it's not special and to put it in 43 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:17,840 context not only was i able to clutch together a solution that matches their 44 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:21,440 pricing i was able to do it while still 45 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:26,560 overpaying for my server the 45 drives 46 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:28,080 tornado is not cheap and i outfitted it 47 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:33,519 with all solid-state drives instead of mechanical 48 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:37,760 ones at the same usable capacity and you don't even have 49 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:42,239 to be a tech expert to build something like this because we went with an 50 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:47,280 off-the-shelf bare bone server most of the work was done all i had to do was 51 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,799 spend about 15 minutes shucking the drives from their packaging 52 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:58,799 and popping them in here i did a separate video and with 27 of these 3.84 53 00:03:54,879 --> 00:04:02,400 terabyte iron wolf 110 nas ssds i've got 54 00:03:58,799 --> 00:04:04,640 over a hundred terabytes of raw 55 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,159 solid state storage ready to go 56 00:04:06,799 --> 00:04:14,000 so from there all that was left to do was 57 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:16,000 phone a friend to show us the right way 58 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:21,680 to configure it because is it correct to say that configuring an SSD based nas is 59 00:04:19,359 --> 00:04:25,360 not the same as a hard drive based nas that's 100 true all right so you want to 60 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:29,280 introduce yourself then sure hey guys i'm patrick from serve the home we 61 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,720 started sth 10 years ago building solutions just like this and now we 62 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:36,720 review server storage and networking hardware all the way from scrappy diy 63 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:41,280 ebay stuff all the way up to high-end six-figure plus enterprise gear so i 64 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:44,400 kind of assumed that we would be using freenas but in addition to that you came 65 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:49,120 with a bit of a trick up your sleeve right i did okay why don't we begin 66 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:53,280 though with the basic install sure okay so freenas installer super easy it 67 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,960 actually automatically does this so you don't really need to do anything 68 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:01,280 and you get some really kind of old-looking ascii yeah i feel like i'm 69 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:06,880 like gaming 30 years ago so what we'll do is we're going to select two drives 70 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,960 for our boot drives so these are the 250 71 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:12,639 gig ssds that shipped with our stornado they are and then 72 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,880 we're gonna go fancy and we're gonna do a fresh install would you like to put a 73 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:20,320 password in sir sure make it easy password serve 74 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:25,600 the home now that we're booted up and we're in the gui we can start to configure our 75 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:29,680 server and yes it's more complicated than a jellyfish but i mean i think it's 76 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,039 fair to say where are we at like 50 clicks 77 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,560 less than that it's really not that hard now we'll go into a little bit more 78 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:40,080 detail about how we're configuring this drives and patrick will probably talk 79 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:44,880 about it in a blog post later on in the video but for now once this is done the 80 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,759 big thing we need to do is apply that special script which is going to do a 81 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:52,800 couple of things number one is it's going to apply some 82 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,039 SSD specific optimizations that freenas 83 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:59,759 intends to include in the next version of their software but that for now 84 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:04,479 they've backported into this version for us to do this video the other thing it's 85 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:09,120 going to do is it's going to change the way that these four 10 gigabit network 86 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:15,120 ports on the back function to be more like a jellyfish 87 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:20,960 so this is basically sacrilegious in the networking world but 88 00:06:18,479 --> 00:06:26,160 the way we want this to work is such that if i were to take a network cable 89 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:30,080 plug it into the back of my nas and then plug the other end into let's 90 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,560 say like a a Thunderbolt 10 gig network adapter and 91 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:39,280 a laptop i could just connect directly to this 92 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:44,160 thing like it's a big old gigantic high-performance usb drive now 93 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,680 that's not the typical way you would do things no it's definitely not and what 94 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,039 was the reaction you got from industry professionals when you asked them to do 95 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,720 this well my first reaction when we talked about it was i said wait you want to do 96 00:06:55,280 --> 00:07:01,840 what so for 20 plus years the industry has said no 97 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,840 you use switches and those switches allow you to scale out and use more 98 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:10,000 clients you have can have more security features i mean it's it is the way that 99 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:12,639 you handle this type of situation when you have a high performance storage of 100 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:17,840 multiple clients so i'm going to give the counter argument to that because the way that i 101 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,680 see it when you're dealing with a techie person or 102 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:27,120 a sysadmin type person on site that's managing let's say a video production 103 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,120 sure switches are the way to go no doubt about it but if you've got people that 104 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:35,680 are accustomed to just plugging in an external drive and 105 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:40,639 working off of their laptop well i'd say that it's not crazy to 106 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:45,919 imagine that it's far lower friction to say look it works exactly the way you're 107 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:48,319 used to you plug in one cable you plug 108 00:07:45,919 --> 00:07:51,440 in one cable and you have access to your storage 109 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:57,919 except instead of a Thunderbolt cable you use this weird thing so that's it 110 00:07:54,160 --> 00:08:00,000 we've got a healthy 26 drive raid z2 111 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:04,479 with a hot spare so in the event that any one of those drives fails 112 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,240 it starts rebuilding it immediately and you might notice that capacity looks a 113 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,800 little low 77.91 tib so those are tibi bytes if we 114 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:18,479 convert that to terabytes that's actually 85.6 terabytes so we are coming 115 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:23,039 in right around the same capacity as the jellyfish for actually a slightly lower 116 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:30,479 price because we're like 900 less or something like that okay we 117 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:34,399 should be ready to connect directly to the back of our nas here 118 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:37,919 transfer some files do some video editing wow 119 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:41,680 can look at that even with the eight core core i9 you still spike it when 120 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:48,240 you're just opening up a project like this um and wow we we peaked at around 121 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,839 two and a half gigabit per second 122 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,480 so scrubbing is actually not that demanding as we go 123 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:58,160 through this 8k footage here so we're sitting right in the neighborhood of one 124 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:01,680 and a half to two gigabit per second while playing back looks like it settled 125 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,959 in a little bit lower than that let's speed up our playback 126 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:11,200 that's gonna hurt you okay so it's not a terribly impressive demo 127 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,480 because it's just one 4k stream but the 128 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:17,600 nas works i think we need to kick this up a notch we do 129 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:21,880 so we just completed our 12 machine lan center these are all 130 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:28,480 ryzen 2700xs they've all got 10 gig lan 131 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:31,360 and we're gonna grab ourselves a few 132 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:37,680 quad 10 gigabit mix connect all of them at the same time and see just how many 133 00:09:34,959 --> 00:09:40,000 video streams we can do alright 134 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,560 so there it is four Ethernet cables 135 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:52,480 and theoretically we fire this up 136 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:57,600 and we have access to it we 137 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,600 we fire this up 138 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,839 well that'll help we 139 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:14,000 fire this up and we'll have access to it 140 00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:16,000 so we've got three links running through 141 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,519 our switch down there that are in an lacp group so that's basically link 142 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:25,000 aggregation so that's for a total of 40 gigabit plus 143 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:28,320 40 plus 40 so that would be 144 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,560 120 gigabit so that is effectively the 145 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,920 same as if we had three of those quad ports and they were just plugged 146 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:38,240 directly into the back of the computers then all of our machines are plugged 147 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:42,240 into the switch and we've loaded up adobe premiere trials 148 00:10:40,399 --> 00:10:47,760 on each one of these machines with the intention 149 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:51,839 of hitting all 12 of them at once 150 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:54,480 and seeing just how many 4k video 151 00:10:51,839 --> 00:10:58,560 streams our server can handle so uh Jake 152 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:02,000 oh you're already on it look at him go these young kids today they got so much 153 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:07,680 energy you know so just as a recap here guys this is 16 154 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:11,360 mpeg-2 files that were encoded at 100 megabit per second so that would be 155 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:16,720 comparable to what you would record in the 4k high quality preset on something 156 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:22,240 like an a7s2 now you can see here that this 157 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:26,800 is a freaking lot of bandwidth especially when we have a lot of motion 158 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:30,000 across all the clips and we can spike as high as four to even five gigabit per 159 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:36,240 second and that's why we are just playing back 160 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,200 never mind if we want to scrub through the footage 161 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:43,680 if we scrub through the footage we are actually going to be able to saturate 162 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,839 our 10 gigabit link here so you can see i'm sitting in the nine to nine and a 163 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:53,360 half range isn't that absolutely beautiful but 164 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:57,120 performance is still smooth this is actually a shockingly good editing 165 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,720 experience this is it moment of truth you ready are 166 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:06,079 you just doing that one no i'm gonna do all of them oh you ready yeah okay 167 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:11,040 one two oh crap this one's at one quarter res 168 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:14,720 oh they're all at one quarter road dang it no one quarter res is not good enough 169 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:20,020 for us okay changing the res start 170 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,920 start so all six of mine are going 171 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,680 are we dropping frames or is it smooth looks pretty damn smooth looking pretty 172 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:33,440 smooth to me okay so i got our overall feed here 173 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:38,000 nice nice how we doing it's a casual 174 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,920 25 gigabit 25 gigabit i think we can do 175 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,320 better so one challenge that we've got is that 176 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:48,959 while we'd love to just throw more video streams at each one of these machines 177 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:53,200 we're up against a technical limit within adobe premiere where it only 178 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:58,399 allows 16 sources for this multi-cam setup and also up against a CPU limit so 179 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:04,839 our CPU is actually sitting anywhere from around 70 up to 90 percent as we're 180 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:09,360 going through and playing back all these files so clearly we can't just throw 181 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:12,880 more streams per machine but what we can do to hit our network 182 00:13:11,839 --> 00:13:17,360 harder is scrub 183 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:20,480 all the machines so i think we need some helpers 184 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:26,160 okay so thank you gentlemen the test here is simple we are trying to suck as 185 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:29,760 much bandwidth as we possibly can from the video server sitting on this 186 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:34,639 chair over here now we're playing back 16 100 megabit 187 00:13:32,639 --> 00:13:37,440 streams per machine as it is 188 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:43,760 but that's not enough that's only about 25 to 27 gigabit 189 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:44,959 child's play so if we scrub through the 190 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:49,040 footage we can get each of these machines to 191 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:54,959 pull about nine to nine and a half gigabit and we want to see just how hard 192 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:59,279 we can make it hurt okay so i'm peaking at around four gigabit per second on 193 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:03,519 each of mine and we're looking at about 40 gigabit overall so i think our link 194 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:09,519 aggregation is not working it's not working all right so the good news is we managed 195 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:16,560 to play 184 4k video streams off of our server and 196 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:19,600 we managed even to scrub around through them 197 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:23,839 during that process the bad news is that it looks like 198 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:28,560 unless we can get link aggregation working properly it would in fact 199 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,720 be better to go straight out with uh 200 00:14:31,199 --> 00:14:37,040 10 gigabit connections to each of the computers i just didn't feel like 201 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:41,360 spending the couple thousand dollars on a bunch of those quad 10 gig cards so 202 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:45,040 we're gonna call this we're gonna call this good enough for now 203 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:49,440 so that's a pretty cool demo if you're into editing video off of a shared 204 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:54,399 storage resource and it's actually pretty similar to the one that lumaforge 205 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:58,160 used when they launched the jellyfish just 206 00:14:55,519 --> 00:15:03,360 bigger and badder because it's all flash and somehow at the same price 207 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:08,480 but we haven't even addressed some of the other really cool things about this 208 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:13,760 configuration yet so lumaforge is using two striped raid z2s so that's kind of 209 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:18,959 like raid 60. so a stripe of raid sixes and that means 210 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:23,360 that they can suffer anywhere from two to four physical drive failures before 211 00:15:21,199 --> 00:15:29,519 they lose any data now we can only take two drive failures 212 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:35,279 and then a third assuming that one of them manages to rebuild with our hot 213 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:36,959 spare so one to three over time that's 214 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:40,639 kind of similar i guess but the story is a little bit more 215 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:46,720 nuanced than that so patrick you guys have a calculator that people can use to 216 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:49,440 calculate what the expected time to data 217 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:53,360 loss is for a particular configuration and what did we come out at with this 218 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:59,199 one right here yeah this one we basically had less than a 219 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:02,000 .02 chance to have it fail 220 00:15:59,199 --> 00:16:05,440 over the next 10 years so we think it's pretty reliable and part of that is 221 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:09,120 really just the fact that the hard drives are a lot slower than the ssds 222 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:13,839 when it comes to rebuild which means that even if a drive fails your array 223 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:18,079 spends less time in a degraded and vulnerable state than 224 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:22,320 if you're using hard drives a couple other advantages of ssds are 225 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:26,880 that these ones are about a hundred times less likely to read a bit 226 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:32,320 incorrectly compared to even reliable hard drives and they've got 227 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:36,720 some other practical advantages too no vibration no noise and if you're on the 228 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,560 go like you're uh you know if you were to put something 229 00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:44,240 like mechanical hard drives on the back of a jeep in the jungle for an on 230 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,560 location shoot that is a super bad idea and this 231 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,680 wouldn't be nearly as vulnerable to those kinds of vibrations which by the 232 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:56,079 way yes do kill drives you were telling a story 233 00:16:54,160 --> 00:17:00,399 about yahoo a little while ago oh yeah yahoo a long time ago 234 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:03,759 actually put drives on storage arrays that were going across the parking lot 235 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:06,640 and one of the things they found was that when they got the systems powered 236 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,319 up and the drives powered up on the other end they had a big problem with 237 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:15,280 drive failures and the reason for that was that those carts were actually using 238 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:19,520 solid casters and that caused so much vibration that the hard drives ended up 239 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:24,000 failing so that's like a good example of why hard drives even though they're 240 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,799 generally reliable even you know if they get a little bit shaken up while they're 241 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:32,880 powered off a lot less reliable than solid state drives in that scenario so we're not 242 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:37,520 actually necessarily done yet we had some further optimization ideas i mean 243 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:42,480 patrick really really wants to use a switch because as we saw unless you have 244 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:46,720 a ton of streams coming into a single machine you're nowhere near 10 gigabit 245 00:17:44,559 --> 00:17:50,000 needed for each individual station but that's going to come down to you know 246 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:55,679 how the user wants to use it for now we were trying to just go after well here 247 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,440 you can have this but diy we could also 248 00:17:55,679 --> 00:18:02,480 get better performance and lower power consumption by using more modern cpus 249 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:07,679 caching was something that we talked about and it's something that lumaforge 250 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,760 actually offers as a performance boost 251 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:13,440 option for the jellyfish they add an octane right cache 252 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:18,720 with some more RAM and then we think maybe faster cpus they wouldn't confirm 253 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:23,200 that for me uh for an extra 3 500 but you recommended against using something 254 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,400 like an octane right cache for an all SSD based machine can you explain why 255 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:29,520 that is yeah so you tend to use caching drives 256 00:18:28,559 --> 00:18:34,559 especially when you're going to hard drive and the idea was you have something that's faster than hard drives 257 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:38,080 that's able to absorb random reads random writes and then smooth it out so 258 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,360 it's more similar right so it's more sequential and better for the way that 259 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:48,000 hard drives like to be accessed but solid state drives are different than hard drives and because of that you tend 260 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:50,160 not to put as much caching in front of 261 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:55,039 solid state race and so in this case we just didn't think that we needed it 262 00:18:52,160 --> 00:19:00,480 all right so we maybe aren't quite done but that is it for today but the sort of 263 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:03,440 wrap up for this video is a bit long but it's also really important so try not to 264 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:10,160 tune out guys we did this video for a couple of reasons one was to demystify some of the 265 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:16,880 marketing mumbo jumbo that goes on with solutions like the jellyfish compatible 266 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:16,880 with mac Linux and pc 267 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:23,600 what does that even mean of course it is it's a commodity nas running free open 268 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:29,120 source software but the other reason was to acknowledge 269 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,559 that while we do prefer to do things our way 270 00:19:29,919 --> 00:19:36,160 that doesn't mean that our way is right for everyone and in fact even between 271 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:42,240 the two of us and ix systems support staff 272 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:44,240 we still ran into a few hiccups today 273 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:50,400 so then i actually reached out to marquez mkbhd to send over a couple 274 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:54,640 short clips explaining why the jellyfish has been great for him 275 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:58,720 what's up Linus i'm kbhd here so there were a couple things that the jellyfish 276 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:02,640 did specifically in the mkbhd studio to make our lives easier the setup being 277 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:07,440 one of the biggest ones so this thing was out the box and operational within 278 00:20:05,919 --> 00:20:12,960 90 seconds like it had all the drives installed already everything was fresh out the box all we really had to do was 279 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:17,919 install the jellyfish app on every computer that we wanted it to be on 280 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,160 that's three in my case plug it in hit 281 00:20:17,919 --> 00:20:23,039 the on button and everything set itself up and then we actually had some 282 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,880 assistance from the lumaforge team as far as setting it up to make sure it 283 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:30,480 would work perfectly with final cut pro projects so workflow tips essentially so 284 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,960 they definitely went above and beyond with that but really truly the beauty of 285 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:38,240 it was going from not having any solution for working on videos at the 286 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:42,400 same time to the next day having one and being 287 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,280 able to edit you know close a project on one machine open it up on the other and 288 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,440 keep going that was something we were able to do 289 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,559 very quickly and seamlessly because the jellyfish i think at the end of the day 290 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:56,559 when it comes to spending a bit more for a better overall solution for us than 291 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:00,640 better hardware it can look a lot like the car 292 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:04,880 enthusiast market like some people will buy a certain type of car because they 293 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,440 know that will be a great tuner and they'll be able to get more horsepower 294 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:11,919 out of it and work on it and get better numbers but they know that's that's more time 295 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:17,200 they're going to spend because that's their hobby but some people just want to 296 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:20,720 drive to work every day and back and grocery shopping and pick up the kids 297 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:26,000 this just needs to be reliable and they will spend more on a car that's new just 298 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:31,120 to do that and they can go to the dealer if something breaks down for convenience 299 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:33,679 to fix it and that may seem lazy to the 300 00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:37,039 first person but that's just the way it is that's what the jellyfish is so i am 301 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:41,039 fully aware that there are buildable solutions out there that will do better 302 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:45,440 numbers and better read write speeds and things like that probably even a better 303 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,360 looking box than the jellyfish but 304 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:51,360 we've been too busy editing videos off of it to think about any of that so 305 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:56,400 that's where we're coming from so in defense of lumaforge then it's easy to 306 00:21:54,159 --> 00:22:01,039 use when i called them they picked up the phone immediately they offer support 307 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:05,440 plan with next day replacement drive so that two years down the road you don't have 308 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:09,760 to remember all the ips of everything and how to do anything like companies 309 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,600 like this do need to charge a premium so they can continue to provide support 310 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:18,559 they offer a complete package so you can just forget about it like you're not 311 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,559 buying a box you're buying a solution 312 00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:24,480 and in fairness to them the hardware that they're shipping is not 313 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,559 actual garbage it's not one of those things where they're charging an 314 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,159 enterprise price for you know 315 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:36,640 like a sticker that they applied to something consumer grade like they're 316 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:39,520 using zfs they're using centos this is 317 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:42,880 truly good stuff their connector and manager is really simple to use if you 318 00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:48,240 have to set up a new share or something there's no command line required and 319 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:53,120 also here's a crazy thing if you go to a major tier one storage vendor would you 320 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:56,960 say that the pricing of the jellyfish is unheard of ludicrous it's perfectly in 321 00:22:55,360 --> 00:23:01,280 line with what you would see from a big vendor and they usually have great margins and they provide that solution 322 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:06,240 and great support furthermore another thing people don't consider and 323 00:23:04,159 --> 00:23:10,880 i talked about this recently on lan show but in the film and production industry 324 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:15,840 this kind of pricing is not about the hardware that you're 325 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:19,600 getting it's more about the value that it provides 326 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:25,039 like the amount of money that you're spending might be outrageous but given 327 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:29,520 the amount of money that you will make if it works correctly and the amount of 328 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:33,600 money you might lose if it doesn't work correctly 329 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:36,480 maybe it's not that outrageous after all now we aren't going to be doing it that 330 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:41,280 way as long as building our own machine is still possible but hey i felt like i 331 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:45,039 had to say it anyway speaking of things i have to say the 332 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:48,640 neighbor's app by ring yep that's the same ring that makes video doorbells is 333 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:53,520 all about helping you stop feeling like you're alone when it comes to your security it allows you to receive 334 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,840 real-time information on what's happening around you from other users so 335 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,520 you can put out an alert if you see something suspicious like a possible 336 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:05,919 burglar you can send a notice if you lost something valuable like your pet 337 00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:10,400 and you can even give or receive a warning if a disaster is coming your way 338 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