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inside this absolute monster of a computer is AMD's threadripper pro

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5995wx it packs a redonkulous 64 course 128

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threads and a quarter Gigabyte of level 3 cache it runs at a whopping 2.7

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gigahertz base and turbos up to 4.5

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gigahertz just look at it it uses the same zen 3 cores as AMD's ryzen 5000

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consumer chips just four times as many of them making it

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absolutely rip tastically fast hello new

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fastest CPU what the actual hell is this

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but what would you pay for the privilege of owning the fastest CPU in the world

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AMD figures it's a lot so much that instead of representing it

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in dollars because the number is far too high we're going to put it this way

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the 5995 wx costs 4.6 3090 tis or 13

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xbox series x's 15 iphone ses or 216

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high quality insulated circuit board water bottles from lttstore.com and the

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wildest part they're not totally out to lunch on

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their pricing don't get me wrong i don't like it but this CPU came out five

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months ago and i'm only getting one now which means that someone is buying them

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all let's talk about who and why

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obvious reason to shell out for a threadripper pro 5000 is performance we

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compared it to AMD's own epic milan 7763

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which also has 64 zen 3 cores and

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representing high-end consumer cpus we included Intel's core i9 12900k and if

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it doesn't dunk all over both of them AMD is going to end up pretty

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embarrassed here a quick note about our testing we don't have some of these very

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expensive epic chips to test ourselves so we've got wendell over at level one

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text to grab some results for us shout out wendell this video wouldn't have

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been possible without him so go subscribe like his videos buy his merch

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the team over there is amazing anyway benchmark time in cinebench while single

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core performance is nothing to write home about compared with the 12 900k the

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multi-threaded performance is ridiculous and compared to the epic 7763 our

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threadripper pro shows a 10 improvement on single core performance with a 16

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uplift in multi-threaded performance and AMD continues to flex those rippling

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bulging rendering muscles i mean look at

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this blender render it's competitive with an rtx 3090. when we're talking raw

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compute i repeat this CPU competes with

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a GPU now obviously once you start using

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things like optics to render that's no longer true but the idea of a CPU even

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approaching a high-end GPU and rendering performance is

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nuts and while the improvements over the epic 7763 don't seem that huge at first

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when we zoom in and just compare the zen 3 cpus that 20 improvement in gooseberry

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becomes much clearer but we don't need to zoom in at all to see the massive

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7-zip performance uplift look at how this thing absolutely wipes the floor

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with its zen 3 server sibling and the 12 900k

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it's lucky to even show up on the graph for context the

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5995wx puts out more mips than some dual

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socket epic configurations the decompression rate on this thing is

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confounding literally we looked at other outlets results and we don't really know

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why our results are so high but clearly

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threadripper pro is making the most of zen 3's improved memory controller

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that's the extent of our epic data thanks again wendell the rest of our

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results will just involve the 12900k and the new threadripper in our mozilla

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compile well things don't really improve compared to the 12900k only shortening

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the compile by a minute clearly this compile doesn't take advantage of all

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the threads we have available but you'd think in creative workloads this thing

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should slay right paired with two gpus and a threadripper this workstation

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should make easy work of the adobe sweet puget bench tests which unfortunately

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actually ended up quite underwhelming in all three programs this eighteen

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thousand dollar workstation actually performed worse than a twelve nine

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hundred k and a thirty ninety and this is a great example of how not all

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workloads are necessarily going to benefit from just throwing more money at

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the problem looking closely at our results from puget bench for premiere

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pro we can see that Intel just destroys

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when working on h.264 files thanks to their quick sync which boosts

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performance but then pretty much everywhere else the threadripper comes

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out ahead however when we replace the included dual gpus with an rtx 3090 we

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see our behemoth pull ahead the reason well despite having two gpus in the

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system when you're editing adobe premiere only uses a single GPU with the

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second relegated to rendering only so the more powerful single 30 90 with its

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end bank encoder provides our threadripper pro with more opportunities

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to stretch its 64 legs wait a second yeah it's faster than a 12 900 k

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but it's not 10 times faster

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how does this make any sense how does anybody buy this

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okay no one sets pricing for their product in

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a vacuum so the first thing you do is try to understand your customer and

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since you know that nobody is going to put one of these in a freaking bang for

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the buck gaming pc because that would be stupid and unnecessary AMD can

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rationalize this pricing by observing that well

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workstation customers are already used to spending 10 20 even 30 thousand

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dollars on a single machine i mean this one sent over by supermicro big thanks

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by the way guys super micro is the only reason we're even able to cover this thing because AMD didn't send one is

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worth about 18 000 us dollars

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and only about a third of that is the CPU itself it also packs closely water

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cooling 256 gigabytes of 3200 mega

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transfer per second ecc ddr4 memory three terabytes of high performance

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kyocera gen four NVMe ssds in raid zero and two AMD how does this come off

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i'm sure it comes out somehow two

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AMD Radeon pro w6800 workstation gpus i

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mean the thing's an absolute freaking tank so it kind of makes sense that it

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would be priced like one the second thing that you do then is you scope out

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the competition i mean odds are someone

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else is going to be gunning for a piece of your customer's wallet especially if

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the wallet is 10 20 30 000 big

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except that in the workstation pc space

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that competition has all but dried up

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apple couldn't even be asked to update the mac pro from its 2019 era xeon w's

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and if they had Intel's closest competitor to threadripper pro which

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came out about a year ago tops out at a

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mere 38 course and costs a whopping 4

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500 us dollars so this utter lack of

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other viable options gives AMD effectively carte blanche to charge

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whatever they want but i can hear you thinking hold on a second Linus no it

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doesn't i could just buy 16 core ryzen

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or core i9 chips for a fraction of the cost i mean you just showed that they're

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basically as fast for most things anyway

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yeah that's true enough when the applications that you're focused on are

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multimedia or gaming but look at the areas where the threadripper pro is a

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lot faster it's professional applications rendering simulations

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financial calculations and in a professional setting time is money it

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really is think about it when the time of the engineer who's sitting at that

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station is worth let's say 50 an hour for the sake of argument if

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they spend just 10 minutes a day doing this sitting idle waiting for a slow or

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an unstable machine it easily costs more

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than if you had just shelled out for an absolute beast spec top of the line

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system in the first place and that doesn't even factor in the quality of

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life improvements for your staff from having good computers and the

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opportunity cost of delaying whatever project that they've been working on you

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got to spend money to make money right maybe if we'd given kyle a threadripper

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pro we'd have our screwdriver launched by now sign up for a notification by the

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way the launch is coming very soon lttstore.com if anything i would say the

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price is kind of too low hold on let me explain AMD's announced

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retail price for their top spec 64 core

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zen 3 server CPU the epic 7773 x is

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about 8 800 us dollars now that CPU does

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have some benefits over this one it uses 3dv cache to pack in a whopping 768

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megabytes of cash and it's compatible with dual socket motherboards allowing

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data centers to pack a whopping 128

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cores in a single system but

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individually in spite of all of that cash its performance is actually lower

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than the threadripper pro 5995wx

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that means that if AMD dropped the price of these workstation chips too much they

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would risk competing with their own epic lineup which they super do not want to

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do according to their latest earnings call epic has been largely responsible

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for the 83 percent growth that they've seen in workstation and server sales in

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q2 2022. this is exactly what happens

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when a company has no competition

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there's no incentive to compete if the only one you're competing with is

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yourself which also appears to be the reason that enthusiast threadripper like

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the non-pro one got absolutely scrapped

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this generation remember when AMD justified the socket change from

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threadripper 2000 to redripper 3000 by

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saying well we really just need the updated design and more power for the

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extra cores fair enough we said and they promised to make it up to us by

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ensuring that trx40 wouldn't be a dead platform with zero upgrade path well i'm

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still waiting AMD i know it's a champagne problem but it's very obvious

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that this was a business decision rather than an engineering decision because the

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chips freaking exist here's some guy in taiwan benchmarking

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the 5990 non-wx presumably it has some drawbacks like

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fewer PCIe lanes a lower system memory limit and no

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official support for ecc but it's clearly functioning well enough to

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overclock the snot out of it and break world records rent aside by the way if

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you must overclock high spec chips thankfully AMD offers that on the

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workstation threadripper pro lineup or

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do they AMD's website says that the

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5995wx is not unlocked for overclocking

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but then in a june blog post they state that it will support CPU and memory

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overclocking but the boards that are currently on the market don't allow for

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it but then dr ian cuttress received an asrock board that allowed him to crank

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the CPU to a TDP of 400 watts so it

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seems like overclocking is on the table which means we might see some pretty

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wild benchmark results out of this chip in the future especially if it means we

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can overcome the default boost behavior while AMD reports a 4.5 gigahertz

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maximum boost they are only talking about a single core which on a 64 core

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chip is kind of like saying that your car goes 350 miles an hour but only if

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like most of it is over here and the wheel is rolling down the road you know

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what i mean so in our benchmarks we noticed that once we started running a

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load on more than just one core our boost was limited to just 4 gigahertz

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and then quickly declined to 3.1 as we loaded up more cores i can only imagine

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how fast and how hot this thing will run

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with every core pegged at 4.5 gigahertz for now though we'll have to sit and

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wait maybe watch some exclusive behind-the-scenes content on Floatplane

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to pass the time now i know that you high-end desktop nerds are chomping at

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the bit for something anything to fill the void in this ever-shrinking product

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segment in between workstation and consumer desktop and i'm with you

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usually i'd love to have something like this in my rig but it's just massive

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overkill and it costs way too much and frankly it's a little late to the party

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i'm going to do something i don't do that often i'm going to say guys just

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wait if the rumors are to be believed the generation of cpus coming at the end

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of this year from both AMD and from Intel are going to bring some massive

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improvements and since we still don't know when this threadripper pro chip is

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gonna hit retail it might just be better to hang on and

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