inside this absolute monster of a computer is AMD's threadripper pro
5995wx it packs a redonkulous 64 course 128
threads and a quarter Gigabyte of level 3 cache it runs at a whopping 2.7
gigahertz base and turbos up to 4.5
gigahertz just look at it it uses the same zen 3 cores as AMD's ryzen 5000
consumer chips just four times as many of them making it
absolutely rip tastically fast hello new
fastest CPU what the actual hell is this
but what would you pay for the privilege of owning the fastest CPU in the world
AMD figures it's a lot so much that instead of representing it
in dollars because the number is far too high we're going to put it this way
the 5995 wx costs 4.6 3090 tis or 13
xbox series x's 15 iphone ses or 216
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wildest part they're not totally out to lunch on
their pricing don't get me wrong i don't like it but this CPU came out five
months ago and i'm only getting one now which means that someone is buying them
all let's talk about who and why
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obvious reason to shell out for a threadripper pro 5000 is performance we
compared it to AMD's own epic milan 7763
which also has 64 zen 3 cores and
representing high-end consumer cpus we included Intel's core i9 12900k and if
it doesn't dunk all over both of them AMD is going to end up pretty
embarrassed here a quick note about our testing we don't have some of these very
expensive epic chips to test ourselves so we've got wendell over at level one
text to grab some results for us shout out wendell this video wouldn't have
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the team over there is amazing anyway benchmark time in cinebench while single
core performance is nothing to write home about compared with the 12 900k the
multi-threaded performance is ridiculous and compared to the epic 7763 our
threadripper pro shows a 10 improvement on single core performance with a 16
uplift in multi-threaded performance and AMD continues to flex those rippling
bulging rendering muscles i mean look at
this blender render it's competitive with an rtx 3090. when we're talking raw
compute i repeat this CPU competes with
a GPU now obviously once you start using
things like optics to render that's no longer true but the idea of a CPU even
approaching a high-end GPU and rendering performance is
nuts and while the improvements over the epic 7763 don't seem that huge at first
when we zoom in and just compare the zen 3 cpus that 20 improvement in gooseberry
becomes much clearer but we don't need to zoom in at all to see the massive
7-zip performance uplift look at how this thing absolutely wipes the floor
with its zen 3 server sibling and the 12 900k
it's lucky to even show up on the graph for context the
5995wx puts out more mips than some dual
socket epic configurations the decompression rate on this thing is
confounding literally we looked at other outlets results and we don't really know
why our results are so high but clearly
threadripper pro is making the most of zen 3's improved memory controller
that's the extent of our epic data thanks again wendell the rest of our
results will just involve the 12900k and the new threadripper in our mozilla
compile well things don't really improve compared to the 12900k only shortening
the compile by a minute clearly this compile doesn't take advantage of all
the threads we have available but you'd think in creative workloads this thing
should slay right paired with two gpus and a threadripper this workstation
should make easy work of the adobe sweet puget bench tests which unfortunately
actually ended up quite underwhelming in all three programs this eighteen
thousand dollar workstation actually performed worse than a twelve nine
hundred k and a thirty ninety and this is a great example of how not all
workloads are necessarily going to benefit from just throwing more money at
the problem looking closely at our results from puget bench for premiere
pro we can see that Intel just destroys
when working on h.264 files thanks to their quick sync which boosts
performance but then pretty much everywhere else the threadripper comes
out ahead however when we replace the included dual gpus with an rtx 3090 we
see our behemoth pull ahead the reason well despite having two gpus in the
system when you're editing adobe premiere only uses a single GPU with the
second relegated to rendering only so the more powerful single 30 90 with its
end bank encoder provides our threadripper pro with more opportunities
to stretch its 64 legs wait a second yeah it's faster than a 12 900 k
but it's not 10 times faster
how does this make any sense how does anybody buy this
okay no one sets pricing for their product in
a vacuum so the first thing you do is try to understand your customer and
since you know that nobody is going to put one of these in a freaking bang for
the buck gaming pc because that would be stupid and unnecessary AMD can
rationalize this pricing by observing that well
workstation customers are already used to spending 10 20 even 30 thousand
dollars on a single machine i mean this one sent over by supermicro big thanks
by the way guys super micro is the only reason we're even able to cover this thing because AMD didn't send one is
worth about 18 000 us dollars
and only about a third of that is the CPU itself it also packs closely water
cooling 256 gigabytes of 3200 mega
transfer per second ecc ddr4 memory three terabytes of high performance
kyocera gen four NVMe ssds in raid zero and two AMD how does this come off
i'm sure it comes out somehow two
AMD Radeon pro w6800 workstation gpus i
mean the thing's an absolute freaking tank so it kind of makes sense that it
would be priced like one the second thing that you do then is you scope out
the competition i mean odds are someone
else is going to be gunning for a piece of your customer's wallet especially if
the wallet is 10 20 30 000 big
except that in the workstation pc space
that competition has all but dried up
apple couldn't even be asked to update the mac pro from its 2019 era xeon w's
and if they had Intel's closest competitor to threadripper pro which
came out about a year ago tops out at a
mere 38 course and costs a whopping 4
500 us dollars so this utter lack of
other viable options gives AMD effectively carte blanche to charge
whatever they want but i can hear you thinking hold on a second Linus no it
doesn't i could just buy 16 core ryzen
or core i9 chips for a fraction of the cost i mean you just showed that they're
basically as fast for most things anyway
yeah that's true enough when the applications that you're focused on are
multimedia or gaming but look at the areas where the threadripper pro is a
lot faster it's professional applications rendering simulations
financial calculations and in a professional setting time is money it
really is think about it when the time of the engineer who's sitting at that
station is worth let's say 50 an hour for the sake of argument if
they spend just 10 minutes a day doing this sitting idle waiting for a slow or
an unstable machine it easily costs more
than if you had just shelled out for an absolute beast spec top of the line
system in the first place and that doesn't even factor in the quality of
life improvements for your staff from having good computers and the
opportunity cost of delaying whatever project that they've been working on you
got to spend money to make money right maybe if we'd given kyle a threadripper
pro we'd have our screwdriver launched by now sign up for a notification by the
way the launch is coming very soon lttstore.com if anything i would say the
price is kind of too low hold on let me explain AMD's announced
retail price for their top spec 64 core
zen 3 server CPU the epic 7773 x is
about 8 800 us dollars now that CPU does
have some benefits over this one it uses 3dv cache to pack in a whopping 768
megabytes of cash and it's compatible with dual socket motherboards allowing
data centers to pack a whopping 128
cores in a single system but
individually in spite of all of that cash its performance is actually lower
than the threadripper pro 5995wx
that means that if AMD dropped the price of these workstation chips too much they
would risk competing with their own epic lineup which they super do not want to
do according to their latest earnings call epic has been largely responsible
for the 83 percent growth that they've seen in workstation and server sales in
q2 2022. this is exactly what happens
when a company has no competition
there's no incentive to compete if the only one you're competing with is
yourself which also appears to be the reason that enthusiast threadripper like
the non-pro one got absolutely scrapped
this generation remember when AMD justified the socket change from
threadripper 2000 to redripper 3000 by
saying well we really just need the updated design and more power for the
extra cores fair enough we said and they promised to make it up to us by
ensuring that trx40 wouldn't be a dead platform with zero upgrade path well i'm
still waiting AMD i know it's a champagne problem but it's very obvious
that this was a business decision rather than an engineering decision because the
chips freaking exist here's some guy in taiwan benchmarking
the 5990 non-wx presumably it has some drawbacks like
fewer PCIe lanes a lower system memory limit and no
official support for ecc but it's clearly functioning well enough to
overclock the snot out of it and break world records rent aside by the way if
you must overclock high spec chips thankfully AMD offers that on the
workstation threadripper pro lineup or
do they AMD's website says that the
5995wx is not unlocked for overclocking
but then in a june blog post they state that it will support CPU and memory
overclocking but the boards that are currently on the market don't allow for
it but then dr ian cuttress received an asrock board that allowed him to crank
the CPU to a TDP of 400 watts so it
seems like overclocking is on the table which means we might see some pretty
wild benchmark results out of this chip in the future especially if it means we
can overcome the default boost behavior while AMD reports a 4.5 gigahertz
maximum boost they are only talking about a single core which on a 64 core
chip is kind of like saying that your car goes 350 miles an hour but only if
like most of it is over here and the wheel is rolling down the road you know
what i mean so in our benchmarks we noticed that once we started running a
load on more than just one core our boost was limited to just 4 gigahertz
and then quickly declined to 3.1 as we loaded up more cores i can only imagine
how fast and how hot this thing will run
with every core pegged at 4.5 gigahertz for now though we'll have to sit and
wait maybe watch some exclusive behind-the-scenes content on Floatplane
to pass the time now i know that you high-end desktop nerds are chomping at
the bit for something anything to fill the void in this ever-shrinking product
segment in between workstation and consumer desktop and i'm with you
usually i'd love to have something like this in my rig but it's just massive
overkill and it costs way too much and frankly it's a little late to the party
i'm going to do something i don't do that often i'm going to say guys just
wait if the rumors are to be believed the generation of cpus coming at the end
of this year from both AMD and from Intel are going to bring some massive
improvements and since we still don't know when this threadripper pro chip is
gonna hit retail it might just be better to hang on and
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