1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,799 we lost the battle Apple launched their new desktop computer before we could 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:13,920 complete our Hackintosh Mac Pro killer over here but the war is not over yet we 3 00:00:11,559 --> 00:00:20,119 are nearing completion of our project and our goal for today is to get these 4 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:22,680 two beasts up and running side by side 5 00:00:20,119 --> 00:00:31,759 so step one is to fill the hack Pro with water and Boot It Up one moment please 6 00:00:31,759 --> 00:00:42,760 yes sir ebob no problem at 7 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:45,239 all oh no I don't know what that beep is 8 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,640 but we're green here okay we've got a small 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,800 problem 10 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,920 Oh ultimately the noost situation was 11 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:08,040 solved by a BIOS update but then immediately following 12 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:14,159 that the dang thing wouldn't let Clover Boot and after trying all the obvious 13 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:17,360 Solutions we called in our secret 14 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:20,119 weapon thanks Anthony you're a hero now 15 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:26,920 our solution still isn't perfect our liquid SSD uses a feature called PCI 16 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:30,079 Express bifurcation to split a 16x slot 17 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:32,720 into effectively four 4X slots and and 18 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:36,640 apple does not allow you to boot to software raid so we're going to have to 19 00:01:34,759 --> 00:01:42,079 sub that one out for one with a hardware RAID controller built in so we can get 20 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:46,320 those juicy multi NVMe speeds and so 21 00:01:42,079 --> 00:01:50,000 this is it macOS Catalina running on 22 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:52,479 what is essentially Mac Pro 2019 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:02:00,079 Hardware again yes we're a little later than Apple but in our defense we had a 24 00:01:54,840 --> 00:02:05,119 few months and they had years so come on 25 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:09,160 so check this out 3.1 GHz 28 core Zeon W 26 00:02:05,119 --> 00:02:13,080 384 gigs of RAM AMD radon 7 16 gig 27 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:16,080 Graphics times 2 everything is actually 28 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,040 being picked up exactly as we'd expected 29 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:24,000 here's our storage so you can see here we've actually got four of these little 30 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:26,720 m.2 drives on a single card but three of 31 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,560 them are running in a 2.4 TB raid zero and then only one of them is set up as 32 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:35,599 our boot Drive you can see we've got uh a map of our 33 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:41,840 PCI slots that are used of course it's not working properly because our Mac Pro 34 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:43,879 contains different PCIe 35 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:48,720 slots also have noticed that our networking is working so we've got a 10 36 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:53,879 GB Ethernet connection two extra 1 gigs and we've got both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 37 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:58,760 working thanks to some add-in cards with all of that said it is important to note 38 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:02,959 that we are not at feature parody with a first-party apple comp computer here I 39 00:03:00,519 --> 00:03:08,360 mean obviously all the caveats with respect to software updates and all of 40 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:13,440 that that come with hackintoshing apply here also we've got no Thunderbolt 3 41 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,400 currently we are working on adding that in but we've got a few issues with our 42 00:03:15,159 --> 00:03:22,680 motherboard not seeing our Thunderbolt add-in card the maintenance on our water 43 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:25,040 cooling Loop is a clear disadvantage 44 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,080 compared to a first party Mac Pro not to mention that serviceability of the 45 00:03:26,599 --> 00:03:32,799 machine in general is going to be a disadvantage for us Apple has actually 46 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:37,760 done a truly magnificent job of making upgrades and maintenance a breeze on the 47 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,959 2019 Mac Pro that's actually something we really did not expect to have to 48 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:47,720 compete with so compared to that adding something like an expansion card or 49 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:53,519 memory is a total nightmare on our machine uh also our cooling system is a 50 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:58,840 little bit janky in some spots uh this fan right here is running over our 10 51 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:02,200 gig network card and our SSD it ain't particularly elegant but it actually 52 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:07,239 does a great job of cooling those components and the good news is that 53 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:11,720 like I said it's all working and we are expecting it especially under heavy load 54 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:16,759 to be quieter than Apple's Mac Pro which if you'll recall was one of our key 55 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:20,199 design goals so that's most of what's bad about our machine but let's talk 56 00:04:18,919 --> 00:04:24,919 about some of the things that have actually been improved since last time 57 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:30,280 we spoke we've got a new radiator Mount so we actually modified the 3D model to 58 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:34,360 account for the bracket and the screws that are up at the front here that hold 59 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:39,199 the chassis together so now the rad with the fan sits right up against the front 60 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:42,600 pretty much uh giving us the most possible space inside our system we've 61 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:48,199 also got a new Reservoir Mount can you hit me up with that old one by the way so you can see it's made of nice thick 62 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:53,919 aluminum now there's basically no give it whatsoever so compared to our 63 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:56,479 original one um that's a big improvement 64 00:04:53,919 --> 00:05:00,600 too our new Power Supply Mount now it's not actually in here but can I have that 65 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:04,320 the original one was kind of a proof of concept for whether we could fit the 66 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:09,720 power supply in there make the modular cables like kind of held in place and 67 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:15,639 then detachable so we could pull the whole unit off of it well this is the 68 00:05:13,039 --> 00:05:18,160 over engineered final one so I can show you guys how that works actually if 69 00:05:16,919 --> 00:05:22,479 you'd like I've actually kind of taken his 70 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:26,600 word for this up till now totally TurnKey solution everyone's 71 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:29,720 going to be building their own hack Pros just like this one in no time and then 72 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:34,080 the idea is that we're going to rip the locking connectors off of them so that 73 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:39,199 installing the power supply is as simple as taking the whole unit and going plonk 74 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:43,680 on top of the modular connectors now you'd never ship a system like that or 75 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:47,160 anything like that but I mean it should hold in place well enough if you just 76 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,479 putting it on your desk next to you another Improvement that's pretty small 77 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:56,240 but makes a big difference to the usability is a new vrm block here so our 78 00:05:54,080 --> 00:06:00,440 original one only had a single Inlet and a single outlet and what that meant was 79 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:05,759 that there wasn't enough room for us to put full thickness fans on our rear 80 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,520 radiator and our tubing runs crossed our 81 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:14,199 dim so they were really difficult to get at even with the power supply pulled out 82 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:16,400 so now it actually goes in here out here 83 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:21,759 back in here and back out here and the cooling performance is spectacular so it 84 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,400 both cleans up the loop and makes a little bit easier to upgrade the RAM ah 85 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:30,759 yes this is another big one I don't think we've shown this yet the original 86 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:33,120 locking bar is fully functional so it 87 00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:36,000 actually holds the panel in place and when you pull in it it lets the panel 88 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,160 off we're not going to try and put it on right now because our power cord still 89 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:44,479 runs through a hole in the middle of it but Minor Details the most timec 90 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:50,960 consuming Improvement of course though is the new back panel I've seen a lot of 91 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:54,919 hackintoshes done in this case and the vast majority of them use either 92 00:06:52,599 --> 00:07:00,680 off-the-shelf or self- fabricated back panels that are basically just plain ATX 93 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:06,319 conversion this is something else we wanted it to 94 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:11,000 look like it came from Apple and fit perfectly or at least as perfectly as 95 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:16,120 our time constraints allowed and the first one had some issues Nicholas tried 96 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:21,160 hard but he ended up misjudging the curve at the top here and we ended up 97 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,400 with a bit of an overshoot this one took 98 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:31,520 quite a bit longer but as you guys can see once we apply a little bit of Bondo 99 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:34,160 a touch of paint and you know stand back 100 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:39,720 maybe what do you think 4T this should look pretty darn convincing last little 101 00:07:37,639 --> 00:07:45,240 detail we had a lot of people asking us no unfortunately there is no CD drive 102 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:51,039 it's just a blank plate here it's glued in um if like we probably could have 103 00:07:48,199 --> 00:07:54,639 done it but we would have given up like a third of our cooling capacity here in 104 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:59,479 the front and it might have interfered with our graphics card we might have had to move it or just have one graphics 105 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:04,159 card it just didn't seem worth it besides what freaking year is it it's 106 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:09,280 not like the 2019 Mac Pro has an optical drive of course not now all that's left 107 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:14,919 is to make sure that all of this Hardware that's detected correctly is 108 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:19,000 actually running correctly let's hit 109 00:08:14,919 --> 00:08:22,000 some geek bench here we go boys there it 110 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 is 111 00:08:23,479 --> 00:08:30,120 22,300 so let's go ahead and uh have a 112 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,279 look at some comparison numbers here 113 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:38,279 there it is guys 22,300 in The multicore 114 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:40,680 Benchmark huh would you look at that 115 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:47,839 it's nice to have water cooling isn't it hit them boost clocks we haven't even 116 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,839 done strictly speaking any overclocking 117 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:56,680 yet goal number two seems to have been achieved now what we really want to do 118 00:08:53,839 --> 00:09:00,320 is a sidebyside drag race between these two but unfortunately we ordered a base 119 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:06,079 process processor machine with the intention of upgrading it ourselves and 120 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,560 our 28 core processor isn't here yet so 121 00:09:06,079 --> 00:09:11,839 make sure you're subscribed for the upgrade video and the final one in this 122 00:09:09,959 --> 00:09:17,200 series where we're going to run them side by side and also show off the 123 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:23,519 finished hack Pro with its paint job and all of that and here's the thing guys 124 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:26,560 this won't be cheap when we're done but 125 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:29,040 we are expecting it to be over $110,000 126 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:33,880 less than one of these costs at retail no matter how much we spend on the paint 127 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,920 job so the value comparison is going to 128 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,200 be interesting to see for now though there is a reason we've set them up side 129 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:42,720 by side because there are some things that we can comment on the biggest one 130 00:09:41,079 --> 00:09:47,720 is going to be thermals and Acoustics because if anything running our 28 core 131 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:52,800 against Apple's what do we have in there an8 core something stupid like that yeah 132 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:56,920 against Apple's eight core is going to be their advantage not ours oh yeah I 133 00:09:55,560 --> 00:10:00,959 guess I never even showed you guys the front IO is kind of roughed in now you 134 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:05,120 can see it still needs some Bondo and it needs the actual USB ports that don't 135 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:09,200 have like bent housings on them and stuff and it needs the power button put 136 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:13,720 back in but uh yeah that's that's going to be in by the time it goes in for 137 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:18,959 painting anyway the biggest comparison that we want to do today is thermals and 138 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Acoustics and that one we're comfortable putting our mismatched 139 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:28,240 machines up against each other in because if anything us having a 28 core 140 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:33,120 with two gpus and apple being equipped with just an8 core processor and two 141 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:38,519 gpus so we've got a single card with two gpus well that should be our 142 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:42,880 disadvantage so if we can get even close to The Thermals and Acoustics of the Mac 143 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:46,440 Pro 2019 we're going to consider that a pretty significant win well that's not 144 00:10:44,639 --> 00:10:49,519 really as good as I was hoping uh we're running folding at home by the way the 145 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:54,680 lus tech tips Forum has an amazing folding team shout out to those guys and 146 00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:57,240 you can join at the link below and we're 147 00:10:54,680 --> 00:11:02,880 getting full power out of these CPUs so our eight core is running at about 13 33 148 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:06,440 watts and our 28 core is running at 275 149 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,800 Watts but we're only beating the 8 cores 150 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:15,920 temperature by about a half a degree that's really less of a margin of 151 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Victory than I had anticipated and 152 00:11:15,959 --> 00:11:24,200 impressively the real Mac Pro is nearly silent even Under full CPU 153 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:31,160 load here mind you we are in a fairly chilly environment while our hack 154 00:11:27,639 --> 00:11:32,839 pro has a dis SCT fan hum to it not an 155 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:37,920 undesirable noise remember these are not to a fans they sound pretty good even at 156 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,720 full bore but it's definitely 157 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:44,800 objectively louder small update for you guys while we were changing the 158 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:51,240 batteries in my mic pack we actually extended our lead we are now 7° lower 159 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:55,360 than the actual Mac Pro and I guess that makes sense cuz we've seen Apple tune 160 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:59,720 their fan Curves in this way before where if you have a short spiky load 161 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:04,839 it'll actually take quite some time for the fans to ramp up and it'll just let 162 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:09,040 the large heat sinks soak up some of the Heat and let the temperatures rise until 163 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:13,440 it's like oh shoot Yeah we actually need to cool this thing now so that's very 164 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:18,639 interesting now we're going to kick things up a notch and hit the gpus now 165 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:23,480 both of our systems have two Graphics processors but in very different 166 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:29,959 configurations so this is a pro Vega 2 Duo so it's a single card with two gpus 167 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,160 on it and then this is two single GPU 168 00:12:29,959 --> 00:12:36,519 Radeon 7s unfortunately on macOS we couldn't 169 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:39,720 find a simple repeatable way to load up both gpus with the same application at 170 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:45,600 the same time so instead what we're going to do is fire up the unen valley 171 00:12:42,399 --> 00:12:48,279 Benchmark on one of the graphics cores 172 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,240 and then run geekbench on the other one and it took a little bit of trial and 173 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:56,240 error to make sure that we were running these benchmarks on separate course but 174 00:12:54,199 --> 00:13:00,680 it looks like we've got it so as far as unigen Valley goes it looks like our 175 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:07,279 Radeon 7 is a little bit behind maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 176 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,480 20% when it comes to compute though it 177 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:14,480 is way behind so this is a combination of being architecturally different and 178 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:21,240 AMD unlocking more of the professional compute options in the driver but it is 179 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,720 like 60% as 180 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:28,000 performance I'm I'm eyeballing here I'm eyeballing it's really far off though 181 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:32,399 after running for about 10 minutes we've got some results to share with you guys 182 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:36,440 so our CPU temperatures even with both of our graphics cards running are 183 00:13:34,519 --> 00:13:40,920 basically untouched over here so we're in the neighborhood of 184 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:46,399 56° and curiously they're basically untouched over here too so our Mac Pro 185 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:49,399 is running at about 66 de as for our 186 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:52,279 gpus unfortunately we were only able to 187 00:13:49,399 --> 00:14:00,480 measure the temperatures on the real Mac Pro because our GPU die sensor is just 188 00:13:56,839 --> 00:14:02,880 not supported on Mac on the random radon 189 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:11,320 7s that we installed so that kind of makes sense I guess so it's anywhere in 190 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:12,680 the neighborhood of 56 to about 70° 191 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:19,120 depending on which sensor you're going to believe and in again these sort of 192 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,839 Chilly temperatures the Mac Pro is still 193 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:25,240 shockingly quiet we're definitely going to have to do some tuning with our fan 194 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:28,839 curves on the hack Pro in order to get those same results the good news is that 195 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,399 we've definitely got the thermal head room since we've got about 10° more to 196 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:37,160 play with over here for those wondering the reason that we closed this up while 197 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:41,120 we were doing thermal testing was that we didn't want to draw fresh air that 198 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,839 wouldn't otherwise be available through our back radiator while we're doing 199 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,639 thermal testing and in the finished build there won't be a power cable 200 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:51,079 sticking through the side of it so that'll actually be sealed up mind you 201 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,120 we're going to have more cooling than we do now because the eagle item on you 202 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,680 might have noticed that we've only got two fans on that front triple radiator 203 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,560 uh we can put a third one on we just haven't gotten around to it yet this is 204 00:14:59,759 --> 00:15:07,639 great progress overall but what remains to be done our original goal was to as 205 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:12,839 closely match the functionality of the real Mac Pro as possible and we're going 206 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:17,560 to be able to pull off some more things than what we've shown today but not all 207 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,839 iMessage and FaceTime are pretty standard Hackintosh fair if we can 208 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:25,800 manage to guess a serial number which Apple hasn't made more difficult yet 209 00:15:24,279 --> 00:15:30,560 then we should be able to get those up and running our board recently got a 210 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:36,800 BIOS update that gives it compatibility with the new 3275 28 core processor that 211 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:41,240 the Mac Pro uses as well as support for load reduced memory dims so 212 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:46,519 theoretically once we get one of the new Chips we could try installing it in both 213 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:50,160 of them because even if it means less CPU performance cuz we won't have 214 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:54,800 overclocking support anymore we might be able to bump up our RAM capacity to 215 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:59,399 match the real Mac we intended to have the same expandability as the Mac Pro 216 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:03,680 but we ended up using more of our p C expansion slots for our basic 217 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,560 configuration that we wanted now we do still have some and it is possible for 218 00:16:05,519 --> 00:16:11,920 us to throw in an afterburner card though we haven't verified that that'll 219 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:16,839 actually work but compared to the Mac Pro we're capped at two instead of four 220 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:21,399 gpus cuz that dual GPU monstrosity that Apple's using isn't available sold 221 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:25,959 separately and we've only got two slots that are still open right now here and 222 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,920 here the last thing is probably the biggest one without Thunderbolt 3 223 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:35,319 working we have no way of connecting our hack Pro to Apple's Pro display xdr now 224 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:39,720 there are other displays coming that claim to have comparable performance at 225 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:43,920 a similar or significantly lower price but Apple's is the only one that's here 226 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,519 now and there's no obvious way to solve this because Apple uses a custom 227 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:52,319 Hardware implementation to stream two DisplayPort signals over a single 228 00:16:49,759 --> 00:16:57,279 Thunderbolt 3 wire it's actually pretty cool so in the conclusion of this series 229 00:16:55,079 --> 00:17:02,560 which is finally coming the hack Pro will be feature complete with its new 230 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:05,839 paint job fancy LT logos on both sides 231 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:08,880 interior lighting a light overclock we 232 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:11,360 hope and all the little finishing bits 233 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:15,679 done we'll do our best to get airdrop iMessage handoff and FaceTime to work 234 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:19,600 but I can't guarantee all of them and we're going to have these two monsters 235 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:23,919 go head-to-head with full performance acoustic thermal and usability testing 236 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:28,000 we will either clude something to get the pro display xdr working or we'll try 237 00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:36,120 and find something that's as equivalent as possible so we can do a true APPL to 238 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,160 Apple comparison here manscaped created 239 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:43,960 the world's first 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