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dang thing wouldn't let Clover Boot and after trying all the obvious Solutions we called in our secret weapon thanks Anthony you're a hero now our solution still isn't perfect our liquid SSD uses a feature called PCI Express bifurcation to split a 16x slot into effectively four 4X slots and and apple does not allow you to boot to software raid so we're going to have to sub that one out for one with a hardware RAID controller built in so we can get those juicy multi NVMe speeds and so this is it macOS Catalina running on what is essentially Mac Pro 2019 Hardware again yes we're a little later than Apple but in our defense we had a few months and they had years so come on so check this out 3.1 GHz 28 core Zeon W 384 gigs of RAM AMD radon 7 16 gig Graphics times 2 everything is actually being picked up exactly as we'd expected here's our storage so you can see here we've actually got four of these little m.2 drives on a single card but three of them are running in a 2.4 TB raid zero and then only one of them is set up as our boot Drive you can see we've got uh a map of our PCI slots that are used of course it's not working properly because our Mac Pro contains different PCIe slots also have noticed that our networking is working so we've got a 10 GB Ethernet connection two extra 1 gigs and we've got both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth working thanks to some add-in cards with all of that said it is important to note that we are not at feature parody with a first-party apple comp computer here I mean obviously all the caveats with respect to software updates and all of that that come with hackintoshing apply here also we've got no Thunderbolt 3 currently we are working on adding that in but we've got a few issues with our motherboard not seeing our Thunderbolt add-in card the maintenance on our water cooling Loop is a clear disadvantage compared to a first party Mac Pro not to mention that serviceability of the machine in general is going to be a disadvantage for us Apple has actually done a truly magnificent job of making upgrades and maintenance a breeze on the 2019 Mac Pro that's actually something we really did not expect to have to compete with so compared to that adding something like an expansion card or memory is a total nightmare on our machine uh also our cooling system is a little bit janky in some spots uh this fan right here is running over our 10 gig network card and our SSD it ain't particularly elegant but it actually does a great job of cooling those components and the good news is that like I said it's all working and we are expecting it especially under heavy load to be quieter than Apple's Mac Pro which if you'll recall was one of our key design goals so that's most of what's bad about our machine but let's talk about some of the things that have actually been improved since last time we spoke we've got a new radiator Mount so we actually modified the 3D model to account for the bracket and the screws that are up at the front here that hold the chassis together so now the rad with the fan sits right up against the front pretty much uh giving us the most possible space inside our system we've also got a new Reservoir Mount can you hit me up with that old one by the way so you can see it's made of nice thick aluminum now there's basically no give it whatsoever so compared to our original one um that's a big improvement too our new Power Supply Mount now it's not actually in here but can I have that the original one was kind of a proof of concept for whether we could fit the power supply in there make the modular cables like kind of held in place and then detachable so we could pull the whole unit off of it well this is the over engineered final one so I can show you guys how that works actually if you'd like I've actually kind of taken his word for this up till now totally TurnKey solution everyone's going to be building their own hack Pros just like this one in no time and then the idea is that we're going to rip the locking connectors off of them so that installing the power supply is as simple as taking the whole unit and going plonk on top of the modular connectors now you'd never ship a system like that or anything like that but I mean it should hold in place well enough if you just putting it on your desk next to you another Improvement that's pretty small but makes a big difference to the usability is a new vrm block here so our original one only had a single Inlet and a single outlet and what that meant was that there wasn't enough room for us to put full thickness fans on our rear radiator and our tubing runs crossed our dim so they were really difficult to get at even with the power supply pulled out so now it actually goes in here out here back in here and back out here and the cooling performance is spectacular so it both cleans up the loop and makes a little bit easier to upgrade the RAM ah yes this is another big one I don't think we've shown this yet the original locking bar is fully functional so it actually holds the panel in place and when you pull in it it lets the panel off we're not going to try and put it on right now because our power cord still runs through a hole in the middle of it but Minor Details the most timec consuming Improvement of course though is the new back panel I've seen a lot of hackintoshes done in this case and the vast majority of them use either off-the-shelf or self- fabricated back panels that are basically just plain ATX conversion this is something else we wanted it to look like it came from Apple and fit perfectly or at least as perfectly as our time constraints allowed and the first one had some issues Nicholas tried hard but he ended up misjudging the curve at the top here and we ended up with a bit of an overshoot this one took quite a bit longer but as you guys can see once we apply a little bit of Bondo a touch of paint and you know stand back maybe what do you think 4T this should look pretty darn convincing last little detail we had a lot of people asking us no unfortunately there is no CD drive it's just a blank plate here it's glued in um if like we probably could have done it but we would have given up like a third of our cooling capacity here in the front and it might have interfered with our graphics card we might have had to move it or just have one graphics card it just didn't seem worth it besides what freaking year is it it's not like the 2019 Mac Pro has an optical drive of course not now all that's left is to make sure that all of this Hardware that's detected correctly is actually running correctly let's hit some geek bench here we go boys there it is 22,300 so let's go ahead and uh have a look at some comparison numbers here there it is guys 22,300 in The multicore Benchmark huh would you look at that it's nice to have water cooling isn't it hit them boost clocks we haven't even done strictly speaking any overclocking yet goal number two seems to have been achieved now what we really want to do is a sidebyside drag race between these two but unfortunately we ordered a base process processor machine with the intention of upgrading it ourselves and our 28 core processor isn't here yet so make sure you're subscribed for the upgrade video and the final one in this series where we're going to run them side by side and also show off the finished hack Pro with its paint job and all of that and here's the thing guys this won't be cheap when we're done but we are expecting it to be over $110,000 less than one of these costs at retail no matter how much we spend on the paint job so the value comparison is going to be interesting to see for now though there is a reason we've set them up side by side because there are some things that we can comment on the biggest one is going to be thermals and Acoustics because if anything running our 28 core against Apple's what do we have in there an8 core something stupid like that yeah against Apple's eight core is going to be their advantage not ours oh yeah I guess I never even showed you guys the front IO is kind of roughed in now you can see it still needs some Bondo and it needs the actual USB ports that don't have like bent housings on them and stuff and it needs the power button put back in but uh yeah that's that's going to be in by the time it goes in for painting anyway the biggest comparison that we want to do today is thermals and Acoustics and that one we're comfortable putting our mismatched machines up against each other in because if anything us having a 28 core with two gpus and apple being equipped with just an8 core processor and two gpus so we've got a single card with two gpus well that should be our disadvantage so if we can get even close to The Thermals and Acoustics of the Mac Pro 2019 we're going to consider that a pretty significant win well that's not really as good as I was hoping uh we're running folding at home by the way the lus tech tips Forum has an amazing folding team shout out to those guys and you can join at the link below and we're getting full power out of these CPUs so our eight core is running at about 13 33 watts and our 28 core is running at 275 Watts but we're only beating the 8 cores temperature by about a half a degree that's really less of a margin of Victory than I had anticipated and impressively the real Mac Pro is nearly silent even Under full CPU load here mind you we are in a fairly chilly environment while our hack pro has a dis SCT fan hum to it not an undesirable noise remember these are not to a fans they sound pretty good even at full bore but it's definitely objectively louder small update for you guys while we were changing the batteries in my mic pack we actually extended our lead we are now 7° lower than the actual Mac Pro and I guess that makes sense cuz we've seen Apple tune their fan Curves in this way before where if you have a short spiky load it'll actually take quite some time for the fans to ramp up and it'll just let the large heat sinks soak up some of the Heat and let the temperatures rise until it's like oh shoot Yeah we actually need to cool this thing now so that's very interesting now we're going to kick things up a notch and hit the gpus now both of our systems have two Graphics processors but in very different configurations so this is a pro Vega 2 Duo so it's a single card with two gpus on it and then this is two single GPU Radeon 7s unfortunately on macOS we couldn't find a simple repeatable way to load up both gpus with the same application at the same time so instead what we're going to do is fire up the unen valley Benchmark on one of the graphics cores and then run geekbench on the other one and it took a little bit of trial and error to make sure that we were running these benchmarks on separate course but it looks like we've got it so as far as unigen Valley goes it looks like our Radeon 7 is a little bit behind maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 to 20% when it comes to compute though it is way behind so this is a combination of being architecturally different and AMD unlocking more of the professional compute options in the driver but it is like 60% as performance I'm I'm eyeballing here I'm eyeballing it's really far off though after running for about 10 minutes we've got some results to share with you guys so our CPU temperatures even with both of our graphics cards running are basically untouched over here so we're in the neighborhood of 56° and curiously they're basically untouched over here too so our Mac Pro is running at about 66 de as for our gpus unfortunately we were only able to measure the temperatures on the real Mac Pro because our GPU die sensor is just not supported on Mac on the random radon 7s that we installed so that kind of makes sense I guess so it's anywhere in the neighborhood of 56 to about 70° depending on which sensor you're going to believe and in again these sort of Chilly temperatures the Mac Pro is still shockingly quiet we're definitely going to have to do some tuning with our fan curves on the hack Pro in order to get those same results the good news is that we've definitely got the thermal head room since we've got about 10° more to play with over here for those wondering the reason that we closed this up while we were doing thermal testing was that we didn't want to draw fresh air that wouldn't otherwise be available through our back radiator while we're doing thermal testing and in the finished build there won't be a power cable sticking through the side of it so that'll actually be sealed up mind you we're going to have more cooling than we do now because the eagle item on you might have noticed that we've only got two fans on that front triple radiator uh we can put a third one on we just haven't gotten around to it yet this is great progress overall but what remains to be done our original goal was to as closely match the functionality of the real Mac Pro as possible and we're going to be able to pull off some more things than what we've shown today but not all iMessage and FaceTime are pretty standard Hackintosh fair if we can manage to guess a serial number which Apple hasn't made more difficult yet then we should be able to get those up and running our board recently got a BIOS update that gives it compatibility with the new 3275 28 core processor that the Mac Pro uses as well as support for load reduced memory dims so theoretically once we get one of the new Chips we could try installing it in both of them because even if it means less CPU performance cuz we won't have overclocking support anymore we might be able to bump up our RAM capacity to match the real Mac we intended to have the same expandability as the Mac Pro but we ended up using more of our p C expansion slots for our basic configuration that we wanted now we do still have some and it is possible for us to throw in an afterburner card though we haven't verified that that'll actually work but compared to the Mac Pro we're capped at two instead of four gpus cuz that dual GPU monstrosity that Apple's using isn't available sold separately and we've only got two slots that are still open right now here and here the last thing is probably the biggest one without Thunderbolt 3 working we have no way of connecting our hack Pro to Apple's Pro display xdr now there are other displays coming that claim to have comparable performance at a similar or significantly lower price but Apple's is the only one that's here now and there's no obvious way to solve this because Apple uses a custom Hardware implementation to stream two DisplayPort signals over a single Thunderbolt 3 wire it's actually pretty cool so in the conclusion of this series which is finally coming the hack Pro will be feature complete with its new paint job fancy LT logos on both sides interior lighting a light overclock we hope and all the little finishing bits done we'll do our best to get airdrop iMessage handoff and FaceTime to work but I 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