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in my opinion the Dual sense is the best

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first party controller that's ever been made so what if I told you there was a

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better version of it this is the Dual

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sense Edge this is Sony's answer to Xbox's Elite controller which is proven

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to be a pretty sweet option this is the

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the best of the best that Sony has to offer currently and it comes in this

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nice little cardboard box oh what else is in here paper cool paper

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the controller comes in this nice little travel case I think that's a great idea

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if you are fancy and you have a dual sense Edge you're going to want to carry

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that around show off to your friends that being said I don't know how often

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I'm going anywhere to play console games anymore split screen multiplayer is not

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really a thing but when it is you can do so in style on the top we have this 2.8

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M long braided cable it has a feature that's part of this controller's most

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compelling use case to me that I'm actually really excited to explore we'll

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talk about that later outside of that you have the four extra domes um I

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believe they're these are different heights right so the controller comes

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with three complete sets of different domes different heights uh but then also

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the you know the Xbox style concave ones

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I've gotten used to these so I don't imagine I'll be switching but I'm

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excited to

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try outside of that we have the little locking do hickey uh that allows you to

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lock the USBC Cable in place on the no that's not the Dual sense Edge ew onto

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the Dual sense Edge uh making it that it's not just going to pull out in the

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middle of gameplay which can be an issue we'll explore a little bit more about

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that we'll take this out to keep exploring this case we have the

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different types of paddles uh two different sets little half ones and then

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the regular trigger type paddles outside of that this case feels pretty premium

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this would be a nice little travel case they should maybe consider selling this as a separate accessory I pay like 20

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bucks for this thing there's a QR code you know what that means R roll oh my

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gosh if Sony had that sense of humor I would be so happy oh my gosh it is no

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it's a link to uh the Dual s uh page

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which is neat all right here's the meat and potatoes of this video we have the

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Dual sense versus the Dual sense Edge I think the Dual sense Edge is kind of

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ugly I don't like this glossy plastic

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much prefer the look of the matte I also know uh my controller is not the most

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sanitary thing in my life uh and so I

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imagine that this is going that's that's user error let's be fair everyone

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relax oh that was a good click I really like the look of the touchpad has a

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bunch of the PlayStation symbols really small I can feel my fingers going across

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it it doesn't feel obtrusive but it looks really premium I like the black on

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white highlights kind of a similar visual design I mean it's exactly the

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same controller except for you know these little pieces I think I like the

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white on white a little bit more than the black on white because I'm not used to looking at it it feels almost like a

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third party knockoff the buttons look

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like they're made of the same plastic they feel exactly the same same with the

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d-pad one of the things I really like about PlayStation's controllers is that

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they're great allrounder controllers I much prefer Xbox controllers for

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Shooters and racing games I think those triggers especially in the past have

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been Superior I think that PlayStation has done a good job from the beginning

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of having strong d-pads they're not the best the Sega Saturn has the best but

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it's a very usable d-pad so when you're playing older games on your PlayStation

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or even when you connect it to a PC this is a really good controller for pretty

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much everything at first glance the analog sticks look like they're exactly

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the same but as you can see here these

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ones come off and that's part of what makes the Dual sense Edge such an

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appealing product is that you can customize it but also its repairability

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the original Dual sense has potentiometer analog sticks so that

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means that they wear and tear uh as the the parts inside are rubbing and

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eventually you get stick drift it hasn't been a huge issue on the Dual sens like

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it's been on the joycons but it's definitely still an issue and will

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persist to become a bigger and bigger issue as the generation goes on on the

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bottom we have these function buttons that will allow us to toggle between custom profiles or set different macros

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we have the same headphone jack and accessory pins that we can use for charging the Dual sense Edge will work

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on your first party PS5 charging dock on the back we have the trigger sliders

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that allow you to quickly toggle between how far the travel of the trigger will

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go um at the top we have the full action

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middle you know middle and the bottom kind of hairpin trigger if you're

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playing war zone and you're pulling the trigger and you want the minimum amount of time between your brain your finger

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and the controller making an input on screen happen you know less travel is

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going to be a little bit faster is it going to be a material

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difference I'll leave that up to you another thing of note is that the Dual

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sense still has the Adaptive triggers if you don't know what that does basically

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it adapts the resistance of the trigger so that you can simulate you know

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different gun trigger pulls or pulling a a bow it'll create more resistance as

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you pull back it's pretty neat and there's been some games that have done a

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pretty good job I think returnal and astrobot have done a pretty neat job of

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of utilizing some of these controllers features um but it's one of those things

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especially if I'm playing competitive I just turn them off but it's it's Nifty

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it's Nifty I'm trying to imagine the middle of a game if I would ever switch

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profiles probably not but I think if I was playing tons of Apex on conso or

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something I would have it right at the top this feels a lot more reminiscent of

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the Dual shocks 1 through three I'm glad we have the triggers now I think it's a

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much more uh enjoyable experience and

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grossing in some ways especially when you paired with the Adaptive Triggers on

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the back you can see the design is a little different on the Dual s we have this black line to kind of you know show

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that it's premium but more importantly we have the slots for the paddles I

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don't play competitive games on consoles but I can appreciate that your fingers

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are resting there they might as well do something I think there's a lot of use cases for these paddles it's definitely

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a preference thing you can use either either the half paddles or the full

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paddles if you don't know what they're used for um for a lot of competitive

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games you know you can just remap different buttons so it's a little

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easier to access so You' be able to map something that you're using a lot on the

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face to the back meaning you don't have to take your thumbs off the sticks

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basically allowing you to keep aiming

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stay focused on the right thing while you still per your actions these feel

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pretty good I've used the scuff controllers with their paddles and I

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always found they felt really cheap I think that whole controller feels really cheap I really don't like the SCU

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controllers I think the Dual sense feels very premium it's a $70 controller you

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know $10 more than what controllers used to cost but it's always felt very

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comfortable in my hand I'm glad they didn't drastically change the shape my

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middle fingers land pretty naturally right on the triggers while my fourth

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and fifth finger finger while my fourth and fifth finger uh grasp the handles

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pretty tightly with your eyes closed you'd have a pretty hard time telling

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the difference between the Dual sense and the Dual sense Edge other than these

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extra plastic flourishes and this slight weight difference however in your hands

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they feel about the same the Dual sense Edge 325 G 328 on our scale that's you

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know marginal error and the Dual sense is 280 G

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281 they feel pretty similar in their hands there's that phenomenon of heavier

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things feeling more premium but it's so slight I wouldn't really describe it as

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that as I rub my palm which is not a realistic use case I can feel the seam

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on the side a lot more on the Dual sense

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Edge all the black also has a seam it's not as pronounced like it doesn't feel

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as uncomfortable it's definitely there but it almost feels advantageous where

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it adds like an extra like grip Point overall if you've held a dual sense

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you've basically held a dual sense Edge here's where things get interesting

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modern controllers have a plague stick drift as long as we're not using Hall

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ofix sensors that use magnets to detect stick motion uh and instead we're using

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potentiometers that rub against each other we're always going to have stick

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drift in some way or another unfortunately even though this is a

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premium product they're still cheaping out and using potentiometer based analog

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sticks and that sucks the great thing about the Dual sense Edge is that you

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can swap them out I got to figure out how to do that on the bottom there's a

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little release latch that that just

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frees up this place this FL plate why did they go glossy black it looks so

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this is trash I'm actually upset underneath we have this latch that

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releases the little analog stick module that Sony will be selling separately for

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$20 each the construction is quite good and you you can see this little Port uh

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it's quite a nice little device but it sucks that it's so expensive Gilly kit

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has mentioned on their Twitter that they are intending to sell their own version

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of these modules with holif effect sensors that's pretty exciting uh so far

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we've had a pretty good experience with those controllers and those those sticks

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uh and so being able to swap them in and out as easily that's pretty great this

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is a very nice little mechanism and I'm quite impressed once the face plate goes

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on honestly can I just game without it it honestly looks way cooler without it

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that pretty much covers the physical exploration of the device I am so

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excited to get on a PS5 customize the software and really experience it after

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there's a separate menu uh inside the settings to just adjust your dual sense

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Edge stuff so let's kind of go through one thing I didn't realize is that the

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more paddle like ones you can have them in this orientation where they stick out

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more from the controller and it's more of like a vertical press or you can have

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them a little more flush to the controller kind of along the natural

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Edge uh and then your finger will kind of more natur fit there I think that's

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what I'm going to go to adjust the input sensitivity that's neat and then set the

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input range for your controller sure it's prompted me to hit the function

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button if you hold it it'll bring up these profiles that you can switch

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between it gives you a little indicator that makes it a little easier to remember I was kind of wondering that

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myself I'm like I won't remember what profile I have all the time if I'm

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switching between like five or six profiles that's pretty nifty starting a

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controller by creating a custom profile let's do it we're going to go through

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the whole journey so I'm going to call it short perky for no apparent reason

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customize button assignments I'm a big fan of not having the left stick be my

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sprint button where you click down and push I find there's just like a loss of

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control I would way prefer to have it be

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you know tied to a trigger so you hold the trigger while you're pushing you can Sprint I'm going to assign the left

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stick press to my left paddle and I'm

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assuming that it's just as simple as selecting L3 and that's going to assign

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L3 I'm going to unassign interesting you can turn on and

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off the left stick itself I imagine that more for accessibility reasons uh if you

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wanted to tie it to something else in the game I don't have a use for that but

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I do wish to turn off the left stick button one thing I'm curious about is

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turning off and on the touchpad this is actually something I would very much

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enjoy there's lots of games that have functions tied to the touchpad and I

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often accidentally engage them you know as your finger swipes across them uh

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having a profile where you turn off touchpad I'm going to also disable the

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right stick button next we have stick sensitivity and dead zone for short

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perky as I push the stick in a direction you can see the amount it's going I

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genuinely enjoy a little dead zone we have the different sensitivity curves so

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default quick precise steady digital Dynamic and they're all accompanied with

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a little neat graphic indicator to kind of give you the idea of the curve uh I'd

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imagine if I was playing competitive Shooters on consoles I would definitely

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play around with these a big advantage that mouse and keyboard has over

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controllers is how quickly you can adjust your aim and so being able to

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have these different profiles uh where pushing the stick all the way to One Direction gets you moving really fast

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but in the middle there's like a little bit of a more sensitive area I think

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could be really really useful I'm going to leave it on default for now uh I am

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going to boost my dead zone a little bit cuz I very much enjoy having games not

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immediately move when I press the stick there is a natural Dead Zone built into

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to most controllers and games uh but sometimes especially when I'm playing on

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a PC there's the issue of I move the

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stick a tiny bit and it just starts rotating the camera a lot like on PC things aren't designed to work as well

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together and so sometimes you can get a controller with no dead zone but a game

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that is expecting the controller to have a dead zone it can just be a little bit little bit unwieldy I was playing Hi-Fi

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Rush recently and I had to kind of go and adjust my controller settings quite

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a bit to make it feel okay you can also adjust the trigger effect intensity um

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but as it says once you adjust your

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sliders for the triggers it'll stop the effect the nice thing is switching

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between profiles is as easy as holding down the function button pressing a face

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button switch to short perky switch to default profile let's go short perky for

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now going to go to mine I don't think this one actually has any games this is

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great even though I've switched profiles the controller is storing the different

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profile settings uh another thing of note is if you hit function and the

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options button it's going to bring you to this customization menu uh and you

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can create your profiles here it's kind of neat even in the menus it'll switch

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the buttons around I had disabled my right stick uh and in this password menu

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the right stick is the switch to symbols button so I had to remind myself that

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I'd switch it to the back PlayStation controllers have always had the issue of

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because their sticks aren in symmetrical location uh if you have really big hands

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your thumbs can kind of you know rub it's not super common like I I don't

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have big hands but I've never come close to having that issue PS5 controller the

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Dual sense fixed that by having these a little bit further I think I liked it

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more just on the right stick I think it like pushes my thumbs off so that it

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feels less ergonomic I think the Dual sense is a very good natural hand shape

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uh and this forces my thumb to be just a little more elevated what we have set up

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right now isn't really going to change anything in the lasso so I'm going to go back see how easy it is to change my

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profile the right stick doesn't do much so I'm actually going to assign circle

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to the right stick that's kind of your Crouch and your uh prone

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button okay it it uh immediately works

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that's kind of neat I imagine if you're someone that's interested in this you

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like the nitty-gritty of going in and changing every setting so having it be

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so easy to go from game to changing your settings is very important if you had to

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like leave your game or even you know suspend it uh so you could make

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adjustments that'd be a pain because where lots of games will totally be fine

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just using the Dual sense controls I imagine some will be better off using

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some in-game customizations and some uh

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controller console level customizations now we're going to try the different

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trigger travel settings we have it all the way the default um this is something

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I'm very familiar with I play a fair amount on my PS5 let's go middle setting

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I don't really like the feel of that last of us isn't a game I probably would

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change my trigger settings too much on of the three settings I personally

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especially in a more narrative game would leave the Triggers on full travel

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if I was playing something competitive I don't really see the point of having the

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middle setting I think I would go all the way to the top setting it's not like

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the middle setting has haptic triggers or some kind of middle ground it's still

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everything disabled so I might as well take the most advantage of the shortened

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travel for uh better control these paddles feel good they feel premium way

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better than the Scuf Controller screw you Scuf for a game like Last of Us I

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would want my triggers you know to have the full travel to be immersive but if I

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was playing something competitive I can definitely see the benefit of the

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shorter travel PlayStation controllers uh the dual shock 4 and the Dual sense

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are both highly sought after controllers for a variety of applications they are

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good for like reliability and input latency uh and like I said their button

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configuration and the button quality is good for variety of different genres

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however if I was playing games competitively wired controllers are the

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best and there hasn't been a first party Sony wired controller since the PS2 era

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the PS3 to my knowledge didn't have a wired first-party controller and the

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Dual set shock 4 has not and so this is the first one basically you take the

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wire you put it in there uh close it up there's a little toggle here from unlock

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to lock you push it in and then you slide it to lock it clicks and it's

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pretty solid that's pretty good with the dual shock and the Dual sense you can

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run them in wired mode and actually transmits the data Through the Wire it's

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not just power although it made almost no difference and my skill level was

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always the barrier I liked knowing that that that was true so this is just kind

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of a Perfection of that idea even if you get upset you know you You Yank on the

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cable it's pretty solid in there I don't like doing that because it's an

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expensive thing I don't want to like damage it but that feels pretty

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freaking solid

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this is a pretty nifty engineering design it means that the top isn't a

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whole like mechanism it's just two holes although I bet those get gunked up real

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quick although I guess if you're like dipping your thing in cheese dip don't

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do that and having it plugged in is kind of Ideal because what was the biggest

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weakness of the regular dual sense is the even bigger or downfall of the Dual

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sense Edge this battery in this bad boy

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this much more expensive bad boy is almost 30% smaller than this this is

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1560 milliamps and this is 1050 milliamps Sony claimed that this is 12

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to 15 hours that's total BS I get tops

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eight hours uh realistically like five

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six and so I just plug this in every single game session uh and they claim

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this is 5 to 10 hours so it's going to be even less Outlets are claiming around

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5 hours but as the battery degrades that's just a pain in the butt I think

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it's a huge missed opportunity to have the pro version of this controller

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not have a bigger battery not have an interchangeable battery not have some

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way for this to be a way better user

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experience that is not enough battery life and Sony really has to figure out

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uh some better system cuz their their controllers are awesome and all these

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extra features are Nifty you know like having a built-in mic and speaker having

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these like cool LEDs having accessory docks and stuff those are cool but it

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sucks that I have to charge my controller in every single time and I do

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that but there's other people in my house that don't so sometimes I pick up my control

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and it's dead and then I have to spend like a few minutes either like 3T away

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from my console CU that's how long my cable is to play it or you know just

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wait and I don't want to wait I don't have time to wait this solves a few of

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those issues you know you get like a 3 meter cable that's cool you can play

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with it wired but it doesn't solve all of that and I think that's a huge

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downfall in a controller that is better

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in every way essentially to the Dual

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sense to have this one major flaw but is

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it enough to Warrant having it be almost

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triple the price the original Dual sense is $70 this is

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$200 big pluses I think the switchable

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analog sticks are great I think the extra customization and the software for

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the right people is a huge huge huge deal having this wired mechanism that's

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pretty nifty but I really don't think it's worth $200 I don't feel like it's

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that much more premium I don't think it looks better I really hate this stupid

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PL plastic finish I have a hard time justifying the upgrade from a dual sense

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to a dual sense Edge just like it's harder to justify the Dual sense Edge in

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the light of the Xbox Elite controller

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it has the four back paddles it has the switchable d-pads I think the Xbox Elite

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feels much more premium than the base one uh it also has a 40h hour battery

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it's not Apples to Apples the Dual sense has so many more little stupid features

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that are Nifty but aren't that important to me and having a 40 hour battery would

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be really nice thanks for watching the ShortCircuit if you like fancy

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controllers why not check out Linus's unboxing of the Elite Series 2

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controller bye bye