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we've tested a lot of cool expensive stuff online as tech tips but every once

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in a while we get something in the shop that is truly face meltingly epic come

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on over here let's come look at this not that not that close this

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is the liquid element lqd 4500 pci express NVMe card codenamed

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the honey badger it is the fastest single pci express slot SSD that current

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technology can support with a top speed of nearly 29 gigabytes per second holy

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before we get into the speeds we need to talk a little bit about how this madness

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works because it's different than what you're used to you might have seen

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something like this before this is a pci

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express gen 3 16x card that can house

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four pci express gen 3 4x NVMe ssds and

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in spite of its cutting-edge performance a card like this is actually pretty

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inexpensive that's because there's no fancy controller or pci express

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switching logic on it it's actually left up to the motherboard to split out those

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16 lanes into groups of four lanes that are effectively wired straight up to

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each SSD because of the speed limitations of PCIe gen 3 though the

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most that you can theoretically pull out of a card like this is around 15.8

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gigabytes per second assuming no additional losses now don't get me wrong

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that's obscenely fast and definitely faster than anything the typical desktop

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user could benefit from but it's no longer the fastest it gets so out with

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the old can you catch this i bet you can

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and in with the new as i'm sure you're aware with the introduction of AMD's

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x570 platform we got our first taste of pci express gen 4 on a consumer platform

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with double the bandwidth of the previous generation meaning that you

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could theoretically create a 16x slotted

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SSD capable of around 31.5 gigabytes per

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second assuming no additional losses now that's fast let's tear this thing open

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four screws and

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there it is my friends a PCIe gen 4 16x slot dedicated to

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nothing but storage i mean who needs a

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graphics card anyway right what's interesting though is that instead of

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just four slots here they went and put

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eight m.2s on this thing and a ball and

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out pci express switch now you're probably thinking couldn't they have

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just made a simple quad NVMe card with

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gen 4 ssds and the answer is yes yes

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they could have Gigabyte actually already did this however here's the

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thing even with the fastest gen 4 m.2 ssds the

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most that a single drive can really achieve right now is five gigabytes per

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second sequential due to limitations of current NVMe controllers that means that

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if you were to combine four of those the most you could achieve is about 20

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gigabytes per second lame ew

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gross right so the on card pci express switching means that they can spread the

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throughput of each of these eight drives

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across the entire gen 416x link which

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with high-end gen3 ssds like these four terabyte rockets from sabrin means that

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we can expect speeds of up to 28

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gigabytes per second which is right near the theoretical maximum and then because

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these are actually four terabyte drives i guess the

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30 plus terabytes of capacity is just a

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nice added bonus oh

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it's fine i got it something you guys might have noticed by the way is our

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graveyard over here of enterprise samsung m.2s so these are the ssds that

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liquid actually included with the honey badger they sent but thing is

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they're designed for long-term endurance rather than drag racing so the write

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speeds on these kind of lack luster liquid is also soon going to be

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releasing a faison based version of the honey badger filled with gen 4 NVMe ssds

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which can apparently reach nearly 29 gigabytes per second effectively as fast

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as you can go after accounting for overhead this feels so wrong

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using the top PCIe slot for a storage device instead of the

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titan rtx that's also installed i think the first time we did this was the 100

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gig card right yeah yeah yeah the network card

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this is insane wow it's even like bowing a bit i guess

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it's not used to that double-sided nand before we start testing we need to

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change our motherboard oops we're running an ASUS board now because we need one that has these options so we

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need to set the preferred i o bus so that our threadripper 3990x 64 core CPU

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knows where to allocate all that sweet sweet bandwidth and we need to turn off

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pci express ari which on these ASUS boards is off by default

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turn it on or off um make sure it's off basically make

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sure it's off okay instruction's unclear

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PCIe slot yeah oh um i believe it finally because we're starting with

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Windows we're gonna go to NVMe raid mode set that to enabled reboot and set up

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the array once you've created your array we can pop into manage array properties

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and there it is array one raid zero

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32.7 terabytes it's worth noting that the honey badger doesn't come with any

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kind of raid chip on board though meaning that all of the drives are

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exposed to the system individually this allows liquid the flexibility to use it

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with their composable infrastructure system so they could say for example

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take two of these drives and assign them to like one server over there and then

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four or whatever to another server over there depending on what their customers

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want to do those guys are just straight cray-cray you know

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cray-cray Jake insisted we have craig fans i i insisted we specifically don't

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say cray-cray but sure

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wow that's uh really not bad for Windows yeah 20 gigs 20 gigs a second baby this

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is better than new wanik on one card yeah that's embarrassing

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that was 24 drives with like a this is

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eight hang it i mean those drives are cheaper but yeah

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but still

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wow what's the iops like 200 000 it's yeah it's still crap what about the

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other side the range rate and garbage you probably do like 400 if you did fio

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but crystal mark

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actually that's all it's for measuring wow it's already

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changed the scale to gigabytes per second

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and we're at 8k holy banana sacks 32 kilobytes we're

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already writing test managers per second

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it's at 100 usage now sure is boys

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and this is on Windows too like damn

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are you okay you gonna make it bud

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wow over a Gigabyte per second at just 16k faster than regular wanik faster

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than new on it it's probably faster than both put together in the current state

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now for fun let's have a look at you know like some workstation use you know play back some 4k video look at that

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look at that smooth scrubbing right there isn't that incredible that smooth

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playback instant stop and start it's actually far

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more impressive than you think because this is not just one video file that

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we're playing it is 16 with a total bit rate of 500 megabits per second that is

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about 20 times a 4k stream off of

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netflix just to put it in context hey there it is wow would you look at that

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wait what is this 50 that's a lot beautiful well let's play back at uh

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double speed then shall we hey there it is more speed two and a half three point

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two one faster i wanna go fast

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it went fast for a sec three gigabytes a second dang look at

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this it got up to 3.8 that's actually that's actually kind of cool

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4.9 gigabytes a second so it's just like if you do quick speed up or stop or

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start it's sort of beneficial but so would just a regular 4.0 SSD

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well yeah minor details i think you can't do 5.7 it might have

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actually hiccuped a little bit yeah on a mortal SSD wow look at that so each of

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these is 500 megabit like that's each of them yeah no yeah it's one file but it's

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loading it 16 times oh so this is like a lot

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over five gigabit yeah so like 500 megabytes a second so that's like a lot

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like 250 times your netflix 4k yeah if they're all playing at the same time

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now to see what this thing's really capable of we need to fire up Linux so

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we're going to delete our array see ya confirm uh wait i don't even

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think you slept on sexy array you gotta select it first oh what

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this is the worst ui that i have ever seen it's a BIOS man relax

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no arrays found in the system okay then we need to go back into

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no i expect better than this we need to go back into SATA configuration

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to turn off NVMe raid and then we're going to boot to our other drive so we

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want to start with sequential read sequential right oh yeah 4k random yeah

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just show me show me that giant number that means absolutely nothing okay so

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we'll do the sequential read i just like big throbbing

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numbers well there's a big throbbing number wow so that's gibby bites 26

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gibby bites per second

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gosh darn that's insane like that's a

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lot oh 27.8 27.

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that's a lot that's basically as fast as she goes i would high-five you but like

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yeah so we were thinking 28.5 is like the theoretical max of these ssds so i

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guess there's a little bit of overhead and then maybe they're over reporting their speeds just a little bit but

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that's that's really fast

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what about right because the samsung ones could only do like eight combined

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these should do like over 20. yeah look at that

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how peasant-tastic 22 and a half gibby bytes i can see why they're into the

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whole composable infrastructure thing because this is so fast that no

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earthly system could benefit from having all of this performance

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in it well yeah look at that so 99 and a half percent utilization on all of them

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okay random read so this is a q depth of 32 this is

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pretty unrealistic but 4.15

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million iops i don't even have context for that

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that's a lot of input output like i'm i'm used to seeing ssds measured on the

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order of like hundreds of thousands of apps for a really good SSD i think these

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ones will do like 480 or 580 000 something each it's like this is just

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madness so like okay new new wanik yeah after all the

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hassle we had with that other stupid thing we could have just plugged a honey

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badger into it like two yeah two we could just get

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hey liquid something to note here is that actually

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nuwanik performed just fine when we were running it like this as well when we

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were just addressing all of the disks individually so we haven't actually got

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like any file system overhead or array overhead on here so we would have

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to do a little bit more experimentation stay tuned though guys because there

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will be some kind of follow-up involving

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more drives in the future in conclusion though guys this thing

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is flipping gnarly but clearly here at Linus media

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group we don't actually need this kind of speed for well anything

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cards like this are designed for big data applications or for databases where

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you need a ton of information stored in a super accessible manner so that even

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multiple users will have high performance access to it another benefit

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of something this fast is that any data that you were to store on an array of

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devices like this could be swapped in and out of system memory extremely

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quickly where the CPU can work on it now liquid is building these first and

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foremost for their composable infrastructure as we talked about before

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what that means is that you'd have like

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a rack of servers over here somewhere with like just cpus and memory no gpus

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no storage then over fiber optics you

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would have like a whack of high speed storage over here and uh hunka gpus over

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there and then you could like configure them however you want rather

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than over more traditional networking like a typical supercomputer

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and i guess researchers like the guys over at folding at home could probably

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use something like this as well while they're trying to visualize or perform

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calculations across their gigantic data sets anyway the point is this is really

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more of a tool for the enterprise and scientific types out there but

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hey i still can't wait until it trickles down to desktop computers and then

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maybe finally eventually to game consoles another decade later

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guys enjoyed this video maybe check out the uh one we did recently explaining

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why this is completely unnecessary for gamers because under normal

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circumstances you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between a SATA

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SSD and an NVMe one let alone an NVMe

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one in something like this
