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Okay, so this is going to be something a little different. I'm going to let John

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kind of explain the premise because I had him on Wan's show like two months

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ago. It was way too long and we were like, "Yeah, we need to do a collab."

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And then I was traveling and then he had some goofball Apple event. He had to

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something or whatever. I wasn't there. Um, now we're finally doing it. We are

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going to have the ultimate debate. iOS versus Android. But John, how's it going

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to work? All right. So, we're going to do this. We're going to make this fun. Here's

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what we're going to do. So, it's about again, it's been two months since I was on Lionus' show. We want to debate iOS

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versus Android, but we figure instead of one of us picking a side, we're going to

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do it two-faced style and flip a coin for who's going to get what side. And if

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you want to watch my part, obviously watch it on on my channel. If you want

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to watch Lionus's part, hit the link down below and go watch it on his

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channel so you can get a better sense of, you know, what he's got to say and

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we can run through everything um together.

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Android, and we're flipping for my topic. Are you ready?

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Yes. All right. We're flipping for your losing topic, I should say.

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Tails, look at that. We mix up. You are

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going to be on the losing side of Android and I am going to talk about the

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glory that is iOS.

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All right. Well, we're going to start right off with the beautifully crafted

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workmanship, which is a big load of bollocks right off the hop here because

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Android has a customizable experience.

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So you're not locked into, well, gee, what if I actually wanted more than just

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a 5x4 grid of icons on my home screens

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that I can swipe to and from just like this and nothing other than that. With

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Android, you can change up your launcher. You can throw an AV8 launcher

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on there. I mean, iOS, did you did you see Tim Cook on stage talking? I don't

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even remember who it was. It was some some guy from Apple, doesn't really matter. talking about how now when you

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wake up in the morning, you can fire up your meditation app contextually from

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the lock screen. How is that a feature? What if I don't want to meditate that

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morning? What if I want to check my email? What if it's going to wreck my

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meditation that I can't see my email before I meditate? Is that innovation on

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the iOS side? All right, this is going to be a really

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easy slam dunk debate. So, you know, you said it was so cool you could twist your

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Android phone to launch it. What if you pick up another Android phone and try and twist it to launch it? Is it going

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to do it? Nope. Because you, my friend, have too much fragmentation. Maybe one

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phone does it. Maybe another phone doesn't. Let's say you upgrade from your last generation Moto X to a new Nexus 6,

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for example, and you're like, "Oh, great. I know how this is going to work." You do not know how that's going

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to work. You got to learn something brand new with every version of Android.

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You're very unlikely ever going to have the latest that Google has to offer,

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which means you are like wide open, leg

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spread, waiting for viruses. I mean it just just just come come at me Trojans.

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Come just just give it to me all. Yeah, you can customize. How people are going

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to go through and actually download OS going to tweak uh going to tweak skins.

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The out of the box experience on iOS is so easy and so seamless. And that's the

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beauty of what Apple provides. You pick up an Android phone, your app experience

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might be incredibly far off. Apple

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offers consistency. You know what you're getting. You know what's going to work.

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They also offer an ecosystem, a seamless ecosystem that's going to work. You're

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going to have continuity to answer your phone calls from your tablet. They just

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make it simpler and simpler, my friends, is better.

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So, I heard a whole lot of Apple fanboying over there. I didn't hear any

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valid points.

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You know what? How excited were the Apple fanboys when Apple started putting

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accelerometers and gyroscopes in their phone? They were like, "Oh my god, now

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it has a compass." Did they complain? Did they complain that, you know, oh,

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now I don't understand how to use this compass. This is so confusing. You know

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what? They probably did cuz they're Apple fanboys.

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Wow, this is just like my last phone. What? Tremendous innovation. That's what

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you get on the Apple side. You get the same damn experience every single time.

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and you get a last gen experience anyway because they are innovating so much

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slower years after the release of the Galaxy

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Note. They acknowledge people's desire for larger phones and then they miss the

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point entirely. The point of the larger

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phone is the more tablet-like large battery experience with which quite

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frankly Apple has their head stuck so far up their asses about delivering a

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long battery life experience that I don't think they're ever going to get

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it. They're just going to keep making it thinner and keep making it so that if

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you have GPS somewhere, you're going to run out of battery halfway through the

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day. You're going to be carrying around half a dozen stupid battery banks in your pocket. And what good do your fancy

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shiny, by the way, more expensive apps do you if your phone is dead? So, what

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I'm hearing from you is that being first is better. If that was true, how's your

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uh new Windows mobile phone working out that you've been using? We'd all be

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using Windows mobile phones first to come out was always better. I would

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rather have something that's going to work and work well than be a beta test

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of some new technology. That's the How How was Google Wallet when it first came

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out? Did everybody use it immediately? No, Apple fine-tuned what they needed to

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do and they got that right when Apple Wallet finally came out and Apple Pay

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came out and invoking the fanboy name because people prefer one over the

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other. You know that's silly. It's commenters do it and you always say

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don't pick sides. The side you pick though, I'm going to say it right here

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is wrong. What I think you have to agree

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about is Apple prides itself on being innovative. And quite frankly, nothing

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they showed off at WDC was innovative. In fact, they even made me look stupid.

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They even made me look stupid.

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I thought that exposeing the rest of your Windows to pop up the other side

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was innovative. Turns out that's been in the Windows 10 preview all this time.

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So, that's Apple's fault clearly that I didn't know that.

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So, what I'm hearing is you not wanting to talk about iOS versus Android. Talk

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about another topic because you know that you've lost. If you thought WWDC

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was boring, were you at Google I/O that I was almost fell asleep. I had to be

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making jokes that I had to pee the whole time on Twitter because I was so boring.

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They were talking about, you know, what's exciting? Let's spend 45 minutes

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talking about APIs. Nothing sexier than that.

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45 minutes talking about APIs. That's basically all Apple did.

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Sexy APIs. Apple brought a We're going to talk about Oh, now

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Apple brought a show. Drake was there. The weekend was there. They had a sense

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of humor about themselves. cares if Drake is there. Okay, hold on a second.

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Let's talk API for a second. We're in Canada. Everybody loves Drake

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in Canada, right? Innovation is that you can make standalone apps for the eyewatch whose

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screen doesn't even turn on unless you do a gesture. That's That's innovation.

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Google's Android Wear has had apps running directly off of the device since

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ages ago. And and you should probably say, "Yeah, they've had apps running

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directly off the watch from ages ago, but only running off the watch for half the day because then the battery is

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going to die." You know what? This breaks it down for

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me. Does your Android phone that you bought, did it come with an anti virus

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software installed on it? It doesn't need to. I have never had a

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virus. The fact that most Android phones come pre-installed with antivirus should tell

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you absolutely everything. At least I know when I put in my bank information

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into my phone that it's going to stay on my phone and not end up in somebody

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else's database somewhere else. Yeah, that's what you think, smart guy.

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I'm sure the NSA has got it figured out and you're American, so you're

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compromised regardless. Ben, come on. Yeah, you're going to play that

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card. Oh, it's it's the NSA big scary. We're talking about OS is here. iOS is

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more secure than Android. Every day of the week, every day of the year, you're

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more secure operating system. Okay, so you're gonna pull up that stupid Windows

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phone. Lowblow. Fine. Then why don't you go use Blackberry, smart guy?

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Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Don't get hasty. Hold on. Hold on a second. All

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said don't get hasty. Now, now that's not necessary.

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So, I think you've clearly run out of ways to defend Apple's shiny phones that

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only have one button. I could do this all day. Few more

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buttons cuz the OS is elegant. You need to throw a ton of buttons on there to do

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what you need to do. The OS is elegant. You know what's

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elegant? Doubletapping the home button to bring down the the onehanded mode and

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move all your icons down because they can't build a UI that's actually

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optimized for the size of their phone. And on that note, I want to leave it up

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to you guys, the audience, to tell us who you thought won. Leave a like on my

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thought won the iOS versus Android debate. And if you would like to see

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this format, return, drop a comment under the videos, and maybe even suggest

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some topics cuz I certainly had some fun making this video. These are a blast, Linus. Thank you, and

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come vote on my side for the more elegant OS and the better hardware. So,

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that's how you're going to play it. You're going to act all You're going to act all gracious. You're going to thank

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me for participating. I'm always thanking you.

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And then with your fancy pants Zeke

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wireless touch sensitive headphones over there, you're going to tell people to

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vote for you. Well, I'm going to tell people don't vote for a phony. Thanks

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for watching. See you guys next time. Bye, guys.

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