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if you disliked it click","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":289.12,"end_s":296.4,"text":"comment if you feel the need to express some other kind of sentiment about the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":294.24,"end_s":300.88,"text":"video so for example if you are completely disappointed that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":298.479,"end_s":304.479,"text":"this nyan cat does not in fact have a rainbow tail","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":302.8,"end_s":309.88,"text":"which i was disappointed to discover when it arrived then let us know that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":306.88,"end_s":309.88,"text":"too","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":318.639,"end_s":320.72,"text":"you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"the Corsair carbide air 540 high airflow cube case is great for air cooling or liquid cooling check the link in the video description to learn more now we were inspired by tiny tom logan so you can check out his youtube channel time to live customs uh tiny tom logan's review of the maxima 6's stream from ASUS and the reason we were inspired by it was because he had the or whatever the word is for it to basically come out and say yes this is a fully featured board and it has all the bells and whistles but who gives two shakes of a lamb's tail because it doesn't actually affect performance in a way that reflects the extra money you spent on it so we actually were inundated with requests to take tiny tom logan's conclusion that something like an extreme grade board or yeah extreme grade board is not necessarily a great value for the money and put it into practical terms where we actually test it so we took the maximus 6 extreme which is a z87 motherboard designed for hardcore tuning and tweaking liquid nitrogen overclocking it comes with the oc panel which allows you to make hardware adjustments to pretty much anything you want without even going into the BIOS very very high grade board and we took the least expensive z87 mini itx motherboard that we could find which was the Gigabyte z87 and wi-fi and we put them head-to-head we were able to achieve the same overclock on both of them because neither slick nor i are really extreme overclockers to the point where we're playing around with tertiary memory sub timings nothing like that that's where you're going to squeeze a little bit of extra performance out of an extreme grade board so we've got the same overclock of 4.7 gigahertz on both of these platforms actually i'm going to take you right over here for a minute we're going to have a look at the test platform so you can see that we were running our vertex loser vertex fours right yep we were running our vertex four test drives we were running a 4770k a gtx 780 as well as of course our h100 cooler of course our ax850 power supply and that is pretty much it we only ran a couple games and we're looking at this from a gaming perspective although it should be noted that slight differences in gaming performance will also reflect slight differences in other performance because the only variable we changed was the motherboard that was it so performance wise i'm going to chuck a couple of graphs up here so you guys can have a look at these and that should give you some idea of about what you can expect so it's anywhere from around two to five percent from going from sort of the most bare bones board that we could all the way to the most extreme board that we could and the thing about this is that i don't want this to be um sort of discouraging if you really want a high-end board there are still benefits so for example high-end boards such as the maximus 6 formula in particular i think is a great example of a high-end board that delivers compelling value it has much better on-board audio than most of the other boards out there on the market it has a better lan solution than a non-gaming oriented board something like color scheme is very important to many gamers many tweakers many system builders who are really into the looks of their machines and you do get all of those things with a high grade board that you don't get with an entry level board i don't know where this board is i think slick told me it was here somewhere but i don't know where it disappeared to however don't expect to get some kind of crazy performance benefit from going with a higher end motherboard another example of where you'll get a benefit with the maximus 6 extreme is obviously expansion so this particular board only has about four SATA ports it's got a single pci express 16x slot with the maximus 64 extreme i think i said formula before whatever the extreme you get four-way crosswire cross wire my wires got crossed four-way crossfire four-way sli you get all of that stuff that most people will probably never do but if you're one of those people who really feels like they need the option for that stuff i personally don't because i will never go four-way crossfire or four-way sli in fact i don't recommend it at all if so if you're one of those people who feels like they need that then you have the option as well thank you slick for fixing my upside down nyan cat which was hopefully serving to spice things up in the background a little bit if you weren't fascinated by the content so in conclusion guys does buying a gaming motherboard actually yield higher FPS in many cases no you have to look at it in terms of does the value proposition of that higher end board make sense for you or is it something you don't really care about thank you for checking out this whatever this was online as tech tips click like on the video if you liked it click dislike if you disliked it click comment if you feel the need to express some other kind of sentiment about the video so for example if you are completely disappointed that this nyan cat does not in fact have a rainbow tail which i was disappointed to discover when it arrived then let us know that too you"}