the video situation in my family room is pretty sick but I am on I think video
number four dealing with the audio the hardwood floors Echo there's no good
place to put the speakers and the entire room is on an angle it's basically a
recipe for disappointment that is where the Sony ht9 comes in it's a four
speaker surround sound system that uses a combination of multiple drivers
microphones on every unit and what son calls 360 spatial sound mapping to work
in any kind of living room the only problem is that as recently as this
morning when we arrived to shoot this video we were still having problems with
the wireless audio cut out and cracking now there was a new firmware update that
we did just apply and it might help
honestly it's been over a year I don't feel like waiting around for another
movie night to be ruined it's time to do what I should have done in in the first
place run some cot Tang wires you going
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they sound sound surprisingly good given the challenges of this room even Sam
agreed when he pulled out the equipment was like impressive not bad actually and
you can put them anywhere you want and get really convincing surround of course
if we're going to drag Sam all the way out here just to do a frequency response
test that's not going to be good use of his talents so he also dragged out our
head and torso simulator or hats which is going to allow you guys to throw your
headphones on right now and experience the surround sound of the HTA 9s
alongside
us
and that is why I have tolerated this
bloody thing for so long when these
things work yeah it is a
genuinely great and utterly unique product because nothing matches the
flexibility especially with how renter friendly it is there's no wires even
except that's kind of the
problem I would love nothing more at this this point then to just keep these
exactly the way they are and then just run a wire to them that would solve my
entire issue with this product the problem is that I can't because Sony in
their Infinite Wisdom didn't include the
option to run wires I mean I kind of get
it that's the whole point of the product but that doesn't mean that I don't hate
it so what do we do now to answer that
Sony sent a over one of their new receivers that at least according to the
marketing material has the same 360
spatial sound mapping but I'm a little
confused by that because they say you can use it with normal speakers like
these Prime satellites and Prime elevations from SVS that they sent over
but I don't really get it because the whole Special Sauce here is that the
speakers have microphones and are aware of their position relative to each other
how on Earth are you going to get this same room correction well think about a
normal receiver setup right yeah there's no calibration mic for these right you
don't set it up and calibrate it that way right in a home theater you have a
calibration mic that you put where you want the optimal place and it calibrates
the speakers based on that best seat right so in theory we still have a lot
of the same information it's just kind of in a different format well whether it
works or not you guys are going to know because we're going to have the raw
audio files from The Experience before with the HTA 9
and with the new receiver Linked In the video description let's give this a shot
shall we it's usually a good sign that it's heavy wait a second why are there
so many speakers well I wasn't sure how we were going to do this because like
you said before the room is it's not really great for speakers my
intention was to just use the TV panel as the center channel like we can do
that we can still do that it has like a speaker level input and then just put
four speakers you don't want height I wasn't planning to well we have height I
mean in theory you can also use them not height you can put them on the ground and bounce them off the ceiling kind of
like these speakers well I don't know it's if
they're here now then I guess we're doing it oh great
no that's Sal you could just glue it back on right does that
work oh that's all the drywall paper man
that's bad now that the experts on site how are we going to wire this up in
a way that is not awful not awful oh I mean getting up is not so bad and once
you're above the crown molding getting over is not so bad it's the molding
that's the problem uh this going to get real ugly real quick I mean the
homeowner is going to really love this one so are you sure that you showed Ivon
these speakers and explained where they're going because I feel like we should check the wife explain where
they're going I was just going to put them kind of where they already were she
had wife approval for the speakers themselves we didn't talk about
positioning V all right well this one we
got this one you guys are showing her all the obvious stuff what if it's just
here um you'll have to angle it this way for sure like you have to angle and now
this surface is going to cause Reflections and hurt audio how about
like right here this doesn't look that there's a a thing right there those are
not the problem this is the problem okay the intention is to put these on the
ceiling firing down for overhead audio okay I
was told you approved this I didn't approve that in the corner it's not so
bad I mean that isn't that bad in the corner right there we'd have two total
one in the corner over there are you even the same lady that wouldn't let me
put air conditioning ceiling cassettes because they were too ugly totally
different do you know how big those were those were like this y by this W yeah
but they didn't stick down at least they're like white yeah it's white and
it's in the those were white is it going to work oh it's wired oh yeah there's
going to be cable channel everywhere yeah wait also I ripped a bunch of paint
off the wall no one told me that well where did you think the wires were going
to go I don't know NE ones were Wireless
but that's what's wrong with them where did you rip the paint
off why did you tell her
no make a video about these okay it's spooled up pretty good in the bottom
there oh wow I reordered the stuff we ordered in the past and they must have
changed the product for the skew it's tiny but it fits two wires which is the
most we need to run in any
direction perfect thank you question for you Sam can you see these wires if I pay
attention yes but I Su just the edge of it I wouldn't know it was a cable if I
didn't know looks like part of the wall okay new plan finishing nails
you have a brad nailer dang it I don't
oh did you just knock the trim yeah that's what I was trying to avoid buddy
and use the big staple gun I tried that
that was not successful if it makes you feel any better this is working really
well how's it going Jamie we're just mounting up a couple of these you
already had an existing hole so I'm just going to use another one what do you think are these going to hold okay I
don't know if they fall on the ground let me know oh yeah look at
that yeah it actually looks pretty darn good I I like that the cable channel is
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here I would say go a little higher where do you want that height
speaker on this side what way over there
yeah so I went and I jammed both of these cables in here for absolutely no
reason yeah well you didn't ask you just did it so you should fix this it'll come
off it looks not that bad no it looks really bad but it's underneath no it
looks really really bad okay well now
that's done just grab a shot of that really
quick so basically this just goes right
to this corner here and that's it yeah okay well that's good at least because
then it means that this mess in the corner will be
hidden my left there perfect tilt it
down a bit more that's good did we pray
tell label them on this side yes oh cool
I never intended this the whole idea of
having a theater room is that this one
was not supposed to be all height
channels surround sound you know what do you know why do you know why it's a
narrow border on the sides and a thick border on the bottom and the top he was
going to put a soundbar cuz I was just going to put put a flipping sound bar in
blasphemy that was the original backup
plan this was never the plan okay so
right here is where you want it basically I would grab a speaker and Sanity check it cuz you don't want to
have to do that twice well this is about the same height as that one I already I
bu that one YOLO okay here we go wait is
there a stud there uh I don't know it
would be really good to put it in a stud yeah I agree let's find out if we hit
one the answer is no ah great we're
going to be using the TV as a center channel and in some Brands and models
you can only do that with their soundar or whatever this specific TV the Sony
a95 K worked well with the HTA 9s as the
center channel and it will also work well with just wires because it has both
so we can just put our speaker wires into our receiver and use this as a
center channel if only Sony's audio
folks talked to their TV folks about just you know having just plugging in a
wire as a backup then we wouldn't even be in this
situation so that is supposed to kind of Point kind of approximately at like kind
of where people are going to sit or something no in front sorry slightly in
front okay all right I'm calling that
good all right I'm over here prepping our subwoofer this is the SVS 3000 micro
it's got to be the cutest subwoofer ever uh from what I recall it is actually
less than 12 in 1 fo in every Dimension
super tiny but it's like 800 W RMS dual
opposing subwoofers I'm just putting on their isolation feet here it just helps
to reduce the amount of like actual physical like shaking cabinets and stuff
and more focus on the noise the sound
the bass mechanical vibrations mechanical vibrations reduces the
transmission of mechanical vibrations there you go I knew we had Sam here for
a reason other than the excellent job he did putting adhesive backings on these
cable channels oh apparently you can do the TV Center
Channel mode through EC that's kind of cool actually which has been great for
family movie night for the last few weeks but we ran out of time to actually
get the thing calibrated and then get our after recording for you guys so Sam
are we set up Y and it's worth noting
that we obviously don't have the hats in the ideal seating position but we're
just going to move the couch forward once you guys are done being in my
living room with me so this is where the alpha spot will be just scooched forward
a bit the calibration process is pretty similar to other AV receivers but with
one extra step so we take our included microphone plug it into the front put it
in our ideal listing position and then I don't know if this is to do with the 360
spatial mapping or what but we also then put it here and run another
check I mean I've never even had one with a stand like this mind you this is
like a $2,000 receiver so it's on the more premium end of things yeah we use
TVs Center oh God why did they do it like this I don't know it's kind of
intuitive is it though yeah you just scroll through and you just pick the
picture that looks you just pick the configuration and then add the center
one after I don't know TV center speaker
perfect overhead speakers what are our options they don't have a oh that's
right classification for this style of speaker but we'll
dop okay here we go room measurement
wait oh like physical measurement okay oh he was ready oh you know what sure
fine I'll stay here Sam will do it nice oh all right I'll help 12
ft all right three feet three feet you
were right the last time just world's best measuring it's 9 ft okay Green
height oh I'm up again jeez I've never done this before yeah does it shame you
if your screen height is up here above your fireplace cuz it really should oh
my gosh okay okay everyone everyone be
quiet okay and then second measurement
we put the mic down
there save save that's it that's all
that was pretty fast this is the thing that the other Sony does right that
it'sing in the right place yeah I mean it says it just this is adding Phantom
round back type A is best for movie
content yeah so this is going to add surround backs optimize the frequency
characteristics of the speaker select the calibration type you want to use sets the frequency characteristics of
the Sony Listening Room where this model was developed I mean if that's how Sony
thinks it should be heard then it sounds to me like that's how we should listen
to
it I feel very surrounded those virtual
rears yeah did you hear that all quite in the
rear of me yeah yeah that's very strange
the speakers definitely sound better oh that's no question I mean that yeah
they we knew that was going to happen what I didn't think would happen
is those virtual rears being so
convincing okay honestly for me I didn't feel like I discreetly heard any
speakers I mean obviously there's audio and I could kind of tell there's some
coming from the side and the front but I didn't feel like I could be like that
speaker's there and that one's there and that one's there it it was pretty pretty
smooth I guess is the way I would put it I want to check how it uh selected some
of these things one of the big things that receivers will do is set speakers to a large setting and what that means
is it doesn't cross over the base to the subwoofer you pretty much always want to
cross over the base your subwoofer it's going to do a better job than even some
expensive massive big speakers so you're
going to want to go in and set those all to small even if it didn't do that
otherwise hopefully it didn't do that
because I imagine we might have to recalibrate oh boy it set them all to
large another thing you can do when you're setting up your receiver is configure the cross over manually that
calibration is going to try to manually set it although I don't know what it's
doing cuz it set them all to large anyways but we're going to go check the
website and then you want to set the crossover a little bit above the rated
minimum frequency response of the speaker so say if it says like 60 we're
going to set it like 70 or 80 and to its credit it automatically set them all to
120 but I think these speakers can go a little bit lower hey look at that
they're all small it actually shows you that they're small it's almost like it
should be part of this wizard everybody shut
up okay now we listen to the demo
again I feel like I heard more bass at the end I was going to say we had maybe
more bass yeah I want to hear the conductor
demo
that swing around is really
convincing it's really bizarre it sounds
like there's a speaker that's a little bit too loud right
here like and there's no speaker there at all like that well you hear this one
but again we're both not really in the optimal listening listening position
yeah but the fact that there are no speakers behind us right now is very
surprising every single speaker is in front of my head it might not be as good
as if there was surround backs but it is there and that is a lot honestly that is
80 to 90% of the battle because generally speaking for movie watching
which is all I really care about the surrounds are just
you know to make you feel more immersed there's nothing happening there unless
it's like Top Gun there was some happening there can we play Top Gun for
a second I mean it's free country yeah okay thanks to
Maverick all right let's
go you hear that behind you no take it
easy oh yeah that weak Center Channel
yeah the center Channel's bad I have an extra one of the speakers you could just
put a third one in the I might need to do that that Center
channel was part of the old setup so for us to do our Apples to Apples comparison
here we are going to need to use it oh so you guys are going to listen to like
the before and after yeah oh okay come on hit
me that
hit okay B the second one's the old HTA 9s
correct yeah he gets it really well yeah I'm surprised comparing this to
hda9 um we thought that the the the
positioning was not quite as good but the frequency response is good is better
and every time you pick these things I'm surprised like because in my head you
don't have like the experience of that that well you don't you haven't had the
training that I have but you've had the experience right but every time you do
it so quickly and confidently I'm surprised the fact that it's working is
all I asked for and if it can sound a little better especially on the base and
still have Okay positionality and like what is she going to
notice why wouldn't I
notice so red is um hda9 green is the
new system yeah there you go and and the base extension is way way better this
was the old system was going to maybe 40 HZ this goes to maybe 25 it's it's way
better yeah and even the the treble slightly better and and the dotted white
is actually what we consider Target for in room speaker system yeah but that's
going to be really really tough at the very extremes and honestly we are riding
that balanced yeah yeah really well balanced so Sony engineer profile very
happy with that actually is it just a Clarity thing no The Clarity on both is
actually really good those are good speakers for a sound
bar but the issue is that the correction
is just better on the HTA 9's you could hear it too right and the positioning
isight L better with the older ones right yep it's a little bit better but
like I said before the surround accuracy
is really not Paramount to me it's more about is it even there is this an okay
movie watching experience and at that
this new setup succeeds really really well and the clarity is definitely
better and the fact that we could get rear anything even though we have
nothing back there that's awesome to me
yeah and also the audio doesn't cut out right that's that's also oh yeah yeah
that's the real key I mean when the HTA 9s work they're amazing it's like
they're made of magic and when they don't work it's
like whole movie night ruined I'm really
happy with the side
grade even though it costs way more took way more time if they could just do Sony
HTA 92 and have it not be crap that's
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