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the video situation in my family room is pretty sick but I am on I think video

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number four dealing with the audio the hardwood floors Echo there's no good

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place to put the speakers and the entire room is on an angle it's basically a

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recipe for disappointment that is where the Sony ht9 comes in it's a four

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speaker surround sound system that uses a combination of multiple drivers

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microphones on every unit and what son calls 360 spatial sound mapping to work

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in any kind of living room the only problem is that as recently as this

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morning when we arrived to shoot this video we were still having problems with

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the wireless audio cut out and cracking now there was a new firmware update that

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we did just apply and it might help

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honestly it's been over a year I don't feel like waiting around for another

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movie night to be ruined it's time to do what I should have done in in the first

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place run some cot Tang wires you going

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to help boy yeah and can I also tell them about our

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yourself at the link below there are a lot of reasons that I've stuck with the

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HTA 's as long as I have they look good

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they sound sound surprisingly good given the challenges of this room even Sam

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agreed when he pulled out the equipment was like impressive not bad actually and

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you can put them anywhere you want and get really convincing surround of course

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if we're going to drag Sam all the way out here just to do a frequency response

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test that's not going to be good use of his talents so he also dragged out our

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head and torso simulator or hats which is going to allow you guys to throw your

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headphones on right now and experience the surround sound of the HTA 9s

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alongside

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us

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and that is why I have tolerated this

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bloody thing for so long when these

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things work yeah it is a

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genuinely great and utterly unique product because nothing matches the

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flexibility especially with how renter friendly it is there's no wires even

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except that's kind of the

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problem I would love nothing more at this this point then to just keep these

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exactly the way they are and then just run a wire to them that would solve my

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entire issue with this product the problem is that I can't because Sony in

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their Infinite Wisdom didn't include the

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option to run wires I mean I kind of get

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it that's the whole point of the product but that doesn't mean that I don't hate

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it so what do we do now to answer that

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Sony sent a over one of their new receivers that at least according to the

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marketing material has the same 360

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spatial sound mapping but I'm a little

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confused by that because they say you can use it with normal speakers like

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these Prime satellites and Prime elevations from SVS that they sent over

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but I don't really get it because the whole Special Sauce here is that the

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speakers have microphones and are aware of their position relative to each other

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how on Earth are you going to get this same room correction well think about a

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normal receiver setup right yeah there's no calibration mic for these right you

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don't set it up and calibrate it that way right in a home theater you have a

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calibration mic that you put where you want the optimal place and it calibrates

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the speakers based on that best seat right so in theory we still have a lot

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of the same information it's just kind of in a different format well whether it

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works or not you guys are going to know because we're going to have the raw

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audio files from The Experience before with the HTA 9

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and with the new receiver Linked In the video description let's give this a shot

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shall we it's usually a good sign that it's heavy wait a second why are there

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so many speakers well I wasn't sure how we were going to do this because like

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you said before the room is it's not really great for speakers my

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intention was to just use the TV panel as the center channel like we can do

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that we can still do that it has like a speaker level input and then just put

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four speakers you don't want height I wasn't planning to well we have height I

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mean in theory you can also use them not height you can put them on the ground and bounce them off the ceiling kind of

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like these speakers well I don't know it's if

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they're here now then I guess we're doing it oh great

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no that's Sal you could just glue it back on right does that

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work oh that's all the drywall paper man

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that's bad now that the experts on site how are we going to wire this up in

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a way that is not awful not awful oh I mean getting up is not so bad and once

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you're above the crown molding getting over is not so bad it's the molding

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that's the problem uh this going to get real ugly real quick I mean the

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homeowner is going to really love this one so are you sure that you showed Ivon

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these speakers and explained where they're going because I feel like we should check the wife explain where

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they're going I was just going to put them kind of where they already were she

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had wife approval for the speakers themselves we didn't talk about

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positioning V all right well this one we

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got this one you guys are showing her all the obvious stuff what if it's just

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here um you'll have to angle it this way for sure like you have to angle and now

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this surface is going to cause Reflections and hurt audio how about

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like right here this doesn't look that there's a a thing right there those are

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not the problem this is the problem okay the intention is to put these on the

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ceiling firing down for overhead audio okay I

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was told you approved this I didn't approve that in the corner it's not so

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bad I mean that isn't that bad in the corner right there we'd have two total

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one in the corner over there are you even the same lady that wouldn't let me

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put air conditioning ceiling cassettes because they were too ugly totally

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different do you know how big those were those were like this y by this W yeah

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but they didn't stick down at least they're like white yeah it's white and

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it's in the those were white is it going to work oh it's wired oh yeah there's

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going to be cable channel everywhere yeah wait also I ripped a bunch of paint

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off the wall no one told me that well where did you think the wires were going

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to go I don't know NE ones were Wireless

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but that's what's wrong with them where did you rip the paint

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off why did you tell her

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no make a video about these okay it's spooled up pretty good in the bottom

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there oh wow I reordered the stuff we ordered in the past and they must have

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changed the product for the skew it's tiny but it fits two wires which is the

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most we need to run in any

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direction perfect thank you question for you Sam can you see these wires if I pay

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attention yes but I Su just the edge of it I wouldn't know it was a cable if I

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didn't know looks like part of the wall okay new plan finishing nails

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you have a brad nailer dang it I don't

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oh did you just knock the trim yeah that's what I was trying to avoid buddy

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and use the big staple gun I tried that

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that was not successful if it makes you feel any better this is working really

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well how's it going Jamie we're just mounting up a couple of these you

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already had an existing hole so I'm just going to use another one what do you think are these going to hold okay I

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don't know if they fall on the ground let me know oh yeah look at

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that yeah it actually looks pretty darn good I I like that the cable channel is

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small as good a time as any to shout out the Jerry rig everything knife available

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in a variety of colors and materials at LTT Store.com you thinking right about

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here I would say go a little higher where do you want that height

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speaker on this side what way over there

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yeah so I went and I jammed both of these cables in here for absolutely no

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reason yeah well you didn't ask you just did it so you should fix this it'll come

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off it looks not that bad no it looks really bad but it's underneath no it

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looks really really bad okay well now

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that's done just grab a shot of that really

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quick so basically this just goes right

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to this corner here and that's it yeah okay well that's good at least because

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then it means that this mess in the corner will be

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hidden my left there perfect tilt it

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down a bit more that's good did we pray

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tell label them on this side yes oh cool

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I never intended this the whole idea of

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having a theater room is that this one

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was not supposed to be all height

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channels surround sound you know what do you know why do you know why it's a

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narrow border on the sides and a thick border on the bottom and the top he was

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going to put a soundbar cuz I was just going to put put a flipping sound bar in

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blasphemy that was the original backup

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plan this was never the plan okay so

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right here is where you want it basically I would grab a speaker and Sanity check it cuz you don't want to

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have to do that twice well this is about the same height as that one I already I

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bu that one YOLO okay here we go wait is

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there a stud there uh I don't know it

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would be really good to put it in a stud yeah I agree let's find out if we hit

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one the answer is no ah great we're

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going to be using the TV as a center channel and in some Brands and models

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you can only do that with their soundar or whatever this specific TV the Sony

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a95 K worked well with the HTA 9s as the

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center channel and it will also work well with just wires because it has both

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so we can just put our speaker wires into our receiver and use this as a

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center channel if only Sony's audio

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folks talked to their TV folks about just you know having just plugging in a

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wire as a backup then we wouldn't even be in this

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situation so that is supposed to kind of Point kind of approximately at like kind

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of where people are going to sit or something no in front sorry slightly in

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front okay all right I'm calling that

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good all right I'm over here prepping our subwoofer this is the SVS 3000 micro

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it's got to be the cutest subwoofer ever uh from what I recall it is actually

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less than 12 in 1 fo in every Dimension

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super tiny but it's like 800 W RMS dual

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opposing subwoofers I'm just putting on their isolation feet here it just helps

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to reduce the amount of like actual physical like shaking cabinets and stuff

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and more focus on the noise the sound

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the bass mechanical vibrations mechanical vibrations reduces the

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transmission of mechanical vibrations there you go I knew we had Sam here for

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a reason other than the excellent job he did putting adhesive backings on these

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cable channels oh apparently you can do the TV Center

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Channel mode through EC that's kind of cool actually which has been great for

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family movie night for the last few weeks but we ran out of time to actually

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get the thing calibrated and then get our after recording for you guys so Sam

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are we set up Y and it's worth noting

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that we obviously don't have the hats in the ideal seating position but we're

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just going to move the couch forward once you guys are done being in my

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living room with me so this is where the alpha spot will be just scooched forward

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a bit the calibration process is pretty similar to other AV receivers but with

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one extra step so we take our included microphone plug it into the front put it

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in our ideal listing position and then I don't know if this is to do with the 360

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spatial mapping or what but we also then put it here and run another

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check I mean I've never even had one with a stand like this mind you this is

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like a $2,000 receiver so it's on the more premium end of things yeah we use

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TVs Center oh God why did they do it like this I don't know it's kind of

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intuitive is it though yeah you just scroll through and you just pick the

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picture that looks you just pick the configuration and then add the center

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one after I don't know TV center speaker

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perfect overhead speakers what are our options they don't have a oh that's

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right classification for this style of speaker but we'll

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dop okay here we go room measurement

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wait oh like physical measurement okay oh he was ready oh you know what sure

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fine I'll stay here Sam will do it nice oh all right I'll help 12

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ft all right three feet three feet you

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were right the last time just world's best measuring it's 9 ft okay Green

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height oh I'm up again jeez I've never done this before yeah does it shame you

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if your screen height is up here above your fireplace cuz it really should oh

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my gosh okay okay everyone everyone be

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quiet okay and then second measurement

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we put the mic down

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there save save that's it that's all

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that was pretty fast this is the thing that the other Sony does right that

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it'sing in the right place yeah I mean it says it just this is adding Phantom

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round back type A is best for movie

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content yeah so this is going to add surround backs optimize the frequency

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characteristics of the speaker select the calibration type you want to use sets the frequency characteristics of

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the Sony Listening Room where this model was developed I mean if that's how Sony

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thinks it should be heard then it sounds to me like that's how we should listen

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it I feel very surrounded those virtual

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rears yeah did you hear that all quite in the

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rear of me yeah yeah that's very strange

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the speakers definitely sound better oh that's no question I mean that yeah

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they we knew that was going to happen what I didn't think would happen

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is those virtual rears being so

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convincing okay honestly for me I didn't feel like I discreetly heard any

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speakers I mean obviously there's audio and I could kind of tell there's some

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coming from the side and the front but I didn't feel like I could be like that

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speaker's there and that one's there and that one's there it it was pretty pretty

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smooth I guess is the way I would put it I want to check how it uh selected some

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of these things one of the big things that receivers will do is set speakers to a large setting and what that means

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is it doesn't cross over the base to the subwoofer you pretty much always want to

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cross over the base your subwoofer it's going to do a better job than even some

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expensive massive big speakers so you're

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going to want to go in and set those all to small even if it didn't do that

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otherwise hopefully it didn't do that

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because I imagine we might have to recalibrate oh boy it set them all to

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large another thing you can do when you're setting up your receiver is configure the cross over manually that

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calibration is going to try to manually set it although I don't know what it's

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doing cuz it set them all to large anyways but we're going to go check the

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website and then you want to set the crossover a little bit above the rated

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minimum frequency response of the speaker so say if it says like 60 we're

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going to set it like 70 or 80 and to its credit it automatically set them all to

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120 but I think these speakers can go a little bit lower hey look at that

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they're all small it actually shows you that they're small it's almost like it

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should be part of this wizard everybody shut

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up okay now we listen to the demo

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again I feel like I heard more bass at the end I was going to say we had maybe

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more bass yeah I want to hear the conductor

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that swing around is really

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convincing it's really bizarre it sounds

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like there's a speaker that's a little bit too loud right

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here like and there's no speaker there at all like that well you hear this one

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but again we're both not really in the optimal listening listening position

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yeah but the fact that there are no speakers behind us right now is very

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surprising every single speaker is in front of my head it might not be as good

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as if there was surround backs but it is there and that is a lot honestly that is

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80 to 90% of the battle because generally speaking for movie watching

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which is all I really care about the surrounds are just

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you know to make you feel more immersed there's nothing happening there unless

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it's like Top Gun there was some happening there can we play Top Gun for

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a second I mean it's free country yeah okay thanks to

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Maverick all right let's

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go you hear that behind you no take it

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easy oh yeah that weak Center Channel

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yeah the center Channel's bad I have an extra one of the speakers you could just

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put a third one in the I might need to do that that Center

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channel was part of the old setup so for us to do our Apples to Apples comparison

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here we are going to need to use it oh so you guys are going to listen to like

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the before and after yeah oh okay come on hit

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me that

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hit okay B the second one's the old HTA 9s

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correct yeah he gets it really well yeah I'm surprised comparing this to

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hda9 um we thought that the the the

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positioning was not quite as good but the frequency response is good is better

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and every time you pick these things I'm surprised like because in my head you

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don't have like the experience of that that well you don't you haven't had the

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training that I have but you've had the experience right but every time you do

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it so quickly and confidently I'm surprised the fact that it's working is

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all I asked for and if it can sound a little better especially on the base and

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still have Okay positionality and like what is she going to

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notice why wouldn't I

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notice so red is um hda9 green is the

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new system yeah there you go and and the base extension is way way better this

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was the old system was going to maybe 40 HZ this goes to maybe 25 it's it's way

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better yeah and even the the treble slightly better and and the dotted white

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is actually what we consider Target for in room speaker system yeah but that's

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going to be really really tough at the very extremes and honestly we are riding

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that balanced yeah yeah really well balanced so Sony engineer profile very

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happy with that actually is it just a Clarity thing no The Clarity on both is

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actually really good those are good speakers for a sound

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bar but the issue is that the correction

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is just better on the HTA 9's you could hear it too right and the positioning

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isight L better with the older ones right yep it's a little bit better but

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like I said before the surround accuracy

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is really not Paramount to me it's more about is it even there is this an okay

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movie watching experience and at that

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this new setup succeeds really really well and the clarity is definitely

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better and the fact that we could get rear anything even though we have

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nothing back there that's awesome to me

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yeah and also the audio doesn't cut out right that's that's also oh yeah yeah

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that's the real key I mean when the HTA 9s work they're amazing it's like

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they're made of magic and when they don't work it's

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like whole movie night ruined I'm really

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happy with the side

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grade even though it costs way more took way more time if they could just do Sony

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HTA 92 and have it not be crap that's

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