WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.879 we've all had that moment of regret when we finish building a new computer or we 00:00:04.720 --> 00:00:11.040 get a new phone or a new car and then after like a week of bliss 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:15.360 the company announces a new one is coming out that's way better than the 00:00:12.639 --> 00:00:18.480 one you just bought come on 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:22.720 well that moment just happened to us here at LTT we had hardly finished 00:00:20.560 --> 00:00:28.160 building our land center before AMD dropped a bomb on the industry with 00:00:24.880 --> 00:00:30.640 their zen 2 aka ryzen 3rd gen processors 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:34.559 so we are taking that bomb and dropping it into one of our land rigs to see how 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:38.879 it handles and this is where we drop 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:43.360 our segway today's video is brought to you by storyblocks video they offer you 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:46.320 studio quality stock video clips for a fraction of the cost so check it out 00:00:45.040 --> 00:00:48.800 today at the link in the video description 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:03.120 now it's impossible to predict the future that's tech tip number one so when we 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:07.200 received the new cpus from AMD after just building the new lan center we all 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:13.510 had a good laugh the sad kind 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:21.759 but exactly how screwed are we by this and if you're in a similar situation 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:23.439 exactly how sol are you well it depends 00:01:21.759 --> 00:01:27.280 does the store you bought it from have a return policy you may be able to return 00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:31.040 the product for a refund and get the shiny new part right away but if you're 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:35.200 outside the return window what are your other options in our case we don't need 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:40.240 to worry about a whole platform change since ryzen 2 and 3 both use the am4 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:44.000 platform you might be able to give your motherboard a BIOS update drop in your 00:01:42.320 --> 00:01:49.040 new chip and enjoy the greater performance and we'll get to exactly how 00:01:46.399 --> 00:01:53.200 to do that in a bit but what if you just bought an Intel CPU and motherboard then 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:57.439 you panic just kidding you've got a few options 00:01:55.360 --> 00:02:01.680 a lot of computer components especially newer stuff can retain a decent 00:01:59.119 --> 00:02:05.600 percentage of their value for longer so you can just sell the CPU and board and 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:10.319 keep the rest of your hardware as it is still viable for the new build 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:14.400 now the used market can be a bit fickle but if you kept the boxes packaging and 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:19.360 receipt there's a good chance you'll be able to recoup between 60 to 75 percent 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:22.480 of what you paid and sometimes more depending on timing or what area you 00:02:21.440 --> 00:02:26.800 reside in it's not ideal but 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:30.800 it's better than nothing another thing you can do is use the parts you just 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:36.239 replaced and build a rig for a friend they'd get a discount and they'd owe you 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:41.200 one a favor you could redeem at the time of your choosing but back to AMD team 00:02:38.959 --> 00:02:45.360 red's commitment to supporting the am4 socket through 2020 has given us an 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:50.239 interesting set of components that are all interchangeable we now have three 00:02:47.760 --> 00:02:55.680 generations of CPU that are compatible across six chipsets with a couple of 00:02:53.280 --> 00:03:01.200 exceptions first gen ryzen chips are not compatible with the x570 chipset and 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:05.360 third-gen ryzen won't work on a320 boards while AMD has given us a neat 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:10.080 little compatibility chart for their desktop chips Intel has taken it a step 00:03:07.920 --> 00:03:14.159 further for their processors with a very useful website dedicated to checking 00:03:11.920 --> 00:03:20.000 compatibility for older processors all the way back to the core ii quads those 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:22.000 geezers all that to say basically if 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:25.840 you've got an am4 motherboard chances are you can simply update your BIOS and 00:03:23.920 --> 00:03:30.000 drop your new ryzen processor in for an easy bump in performance if you've never 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:33.920 updated your BIOS before it's pretty easy head to your board manufacturer's 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:37.040 website go to the support section and search for your board's model number 00:03:35.440 --> 00:03:41.440 once you find it look for the latest BIOS update usually they're sorted by 00:03:38.959 --> 00:03:45.440 newest first then download the installer and run it this should be a relatively 00:03:43.440 --> 00:03:50.560 simple process but keep in mind if the power goes out during a BIOS update your 00:03:47.440 --> 00:03:53.040 computer could be bricked so ideally use 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:56.720 a ups or definitely don't do this during a thunderstorm 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:01.120 why would you be doing that now after your BIOS is updated pull off your 00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:05.040 cooler and remove your old CPU then install your new shiny one 00:04:02.959 --> 00:04:10.080 put it all back together boot it back up and pray to the pc gods it all works 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.439 hot tip i've heard they're more likely to listen if you buy our merch at 00:04:11.519 --> 00:04:18.799 ltdstore.com now i hear some of you asking but riley 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:22.960 am i losing out on performance by not also upgrading my motherboard i heard 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:27.440 some of you say that just now the meds are starting to wear off well with ryzen 00:04:25.280 --> 00:04:32.560 probably not the only major feature added on x570 is PCIe 4.0 support which 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:37.919 right now only provides a bump in performance for NVMe ssds as they can 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:43.840 use the increased throughput now for those of you saying but 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:45.759 x470 can handle PCIe 4.0 well AMD is 00:04:43.840 --> 00:04:50.080 turning off that functionality in their next agiza update we will have to wait 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:54.080 and see what board manufacturers do in response but for everyone else you 00:04:52.320 --> 00:04:59.840 probably won't notice any difference in gaming now we should say buying a 3rd 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:01.759 gen ryzen chip with an x570 board is 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:06.639 technically the recommended configuration we suggest the 3700x 00:05:04.880 --> 00:05:10.880 because of its all-around fantastic performance and great pricing but if you 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:15.840 have limited funds we recommend getting the best 3rd gen ryzen CPU you can 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:20.479 afford and keeping your existing am4 motherboard unless it's an a320 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:26.160 motherboards can give you an extra 1 to 3 FPS depending but realistically the 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:30.000 CPU is the best value in this scenario and we recommend the board being the 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:35.360 last upgrade if your current one is compatible so AMD has claimed that they 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:40.160 have one of the most consumer-friendly series of cpus and chipsets in the 00:05:37.440 --> 00:05:43.039 history of the x86 platform but now that we can see almost the entire upgrade 00:05:42.080 --> 00:05:50.320 cycle how did they do well if you bought an x370 board and a 1700 x on release in 00:05:47.919 --> 00:05:55.039 2017 you would have been able to enjoy top tier performance for a year and if 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:59.919 you just hated the feeling of running last gen hardware you could flip the 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:04.600 1700x for about 75 the original price when the 2700x arrived another year of 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.560 bliss and then another flip when the 3700x came on sale your parents never 00:06:07.280 --> 00:06:13.120 said no huh in total you would have spent just over 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:17.039 500 and got to enjoy three generations of cpus from AMD that's pretty 00:06:15.440 --> 00:06:21.440 compelling if you fancy yourself an enthusiast plus you didn't have to 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:26.080 upgrade your motherboard compare that to Intel at about 680 doing the same thing 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:29.840 and that's not including the motherboard upgrade basically you have a fantastic 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:33.360 amount of choice and can hit whatever price to performance threshold you 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:37.759 desire with AMD's approach now maintaining that level of compatibility 00:06:35.440 --> 00:06:43.039 does have its downsides you can end up with a CPU that supports PCIe 4.0 and a 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:46.639 board that doesn't have any 4.0 slots and if you have an a320 board well 00:06:45.440 --> 00:06:51.120 you're out of luck if you want to upgrade to zen 2. while there is a lot 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:55.840 going for AMD here compromises had to be made to maintain stability and the user 00:06:53.520 --> 00:06:59.039 experience that's just life you know which brings us back to the land cave 00:06:57.919 --> 00:07:04.160 just kidding we've been here the whole time are we upgrading to ryzen 3 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:08.000 although it would be quite simple to upgrade these rigs there are 00:07:06.479 --> 00:07:11.199 12 of them and honestly they're already delivering 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.560 excellent performance so it doesn't really seem necessary but at least with 00:07:13.520 --> 00:07:19.280 AMD we've got the option speaking of which 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:23.919 video creators have tons of options for stock footage if they 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