WEBVTT 00:00:00.319 --> 00:00:08.099 it's retro handheld time this is the Ein 00:00:05.220 --> 00:00:13.440 Odin a project that I've been kind of looking at ever since that video I did 00:00:10.139 --> 00:00:17.279 on the Amber Nick and retroid pocket on 00:00:13.440 --> 00:00:20.100 LTT this is different this promises to 00:00:17.279 --> 00:00:25.859 be for the Retro handheld Community what the steam deck is to the PC Community 00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:27.840 that's big shoes to fill let's take a 00:00:25.859 --> 00:00:32.040 look at the box and see if they uh okay there's nothing really they didn't even 00:00:29.880 --> 00:00:35.520 take any of the boxes for what we have I don't know if we got a light a base or a 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:40.980 pro model there are three models let's just get into the box and calm ourselves 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:42.719 down for you I have this screen 00:00:40.980 --> 00:00:48.379 protector and if you will not calm down I will 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:48.379 break it 00:00:49.500 --> 00:00:55.500 tempered glass actually yeah a pretty good screen protector all right so we 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:59.460 got the unit itself in a little baggie what else we got here oh nice little 00:00:57.660 --> 00:01:06.600 fabric we got a USB type 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:09.360 type a to c but it's purple 00:01:06.600 --> 00:01:12.119 why yeah that looks like 2.0 to me there's only four contacts in there if 00:01:10.979 --> 00:01:16.860 you're entering the system right this runs Android we have three CPU options 00:01:14.460 --> 00:01:20.400 we've got the Snapdragon A45 then the cryo gold and cryo silver which I'm not 00:01:18.600 --> 00:01:27.240 sure the big and little cores is that what that is four or eight gigs of RAM a 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:29.600 full HD IPS display six inches well 5.98 00:01:27.240 --> 00:01:36.060 inches close enough with touch 369 PPI nice dragon Trail glass oh no I 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:41.700 feel even worse about that screen protector Wireless up to AC so not 00:01:39.600 --> 00:01:48.360 wireless six or anything like that USB 3.1 type c on it with mini HDMI 3.5 00:01:45.780 --> 00:01:51.259 millimeter audio jack Android 10. the retroid I think only ever goes up to 00:01:50.460 --> 00:01:56.579 Android seven or nine maybe if you update it 00:01:54.119 --> 00:02:02.040 like it comes with five the Amber Nick just runs emulation station you know I 00:01:59.520 --> 00:02:05.820 think a Linux distro of some kind this runs Android 10 so that means it can 00:02:04.020 --> 00:02:10.979 actually run some fairly recent applications if you want to so you could 00:02:08.099 --> 00:02:14.520 actually use it for mobile gaming in the traditional sense all right let's get it 00:02:12.420 --> 00:02:17.280 out of the packaging here first I need to talk to you about our sponsor 00:02:15.540 --> 00:02:20.340 yougreen thanks to you green for sponsoring today's video 00:02:18.660 --> 00:02:24.780 ugreen is here to 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and they feel good and they have a little detent at the end too 00:03:05.340 --> 00:03:11.340 there's like when you get down to the end there's a little bit of extra 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:15.000 tension required to get it down to the actual end of the travel actually that'd 00:03:13.620 --> 00:03:19.680 be pretty good for GameCube emulation because GameCube has that extra detent 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:23.280 that's pretty cool it's got paddles on the back here I'm not sure what you'd 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:27.180 use those for probably I guess just map it to whatever you want it does have a 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:30.060 cooling fan or at least I think that's a fan in there so yeah these are the 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:34.379 speakers here they're stereo they'll fire down into your palms which actually 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:37.560 might be good for audio quality because like they're not firing directly into so 00:03:36.480 --> 00:03:43.200 that they'd be muffled but they're firing in such a way that when you're holding the device the sound will come 00:03:40.739 --> 00:03:48.180 down into your palm and then reflect up the shoulder buttons feel very nice 00:03:45.720 --> 00:03:52.920 these are really thin they're reassuring the clicky honestly really shocking I'm 00:03:51.060 --> 00:03:57.239 not a huge fan of the clickiness of the d-pad it's got tactile switches instead 00:03:54.959 --> 00:04:00.720 of rubber domes which I mean some people like that it is faster than a rubber 00:03:58.980 --> 00:04:04.260 Dome and you know you know when you've actually pressed it but if you're used 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:09.480 to rubber domes it's a little bit annoying also the d-pad is pretty small 00:04:06.480 --> 00:04:10.799 like my finger covers the whole thing I 00:04:09.480 --> 00:04:16.739 mean if you're playing a fighting game you're probably not going to want to use the d-pad these analog sticks feel a lot 00:04:14.340 --> 00:04:22.440 like the Nintendo switch and I think they may actually be Nintendo switch 00:04:19.440 --> 00:04:24.060 analog sticks from The Joy cons the face 00:04:22.440 --> 00:04:27.960 buttons themselves are a rubber dumb though so that is a good feeling for me 00:04:26.100 --> 00:04:32.160 and they they got a pretty good snap to them they feel 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:39.120 good what is this a little door for our oh it's got a 00:04:34.979 --> 00:04:43.259 micro HDMI as well as a uh trans flash 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:45.780 card slot in MicroSD this size like this 00:04:43.259 --> 00:04:50.240 is this is fairly pocketable here's my iPhone right next to it like it's 00:04:47.400 --> 00:04:56.580 basically my iPhone but with controllers it feels identical 00:04:54.139 --> 00:05:00.180 possibly you might get drift issues I I'd have to take this apart to see if 00:04:58.139 --> 00:05:04.139 it's the same like actual mechanism and just the cap that's different and it's 00:05:01.860 --> 00:05:08.039 only very slightly different the motion feels identical it is smaller than the 00:05:06.900 --> 00:05:12.900 regular switch it is a little bit thicker though it's only because they've 00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:17.400 got these grips whereas the switch is just completely flat on the back so this 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:22.800 has that contoured grip which honestly again it feels really nice in the hand 00:05:19.979 --> 00:05:27.960 it's nice to hold it's similar to the way the steam deck feels with those uh 00:05:25.979 --> 00:05:31.979 this one's kind of taken apart a little bit but yeah it's got that molding on 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:36.720 the back that you know makes it thicker and a little bit more unwieldy but at 00:05:34.080 --> 00:05:40.080 the same time it makes it much easier to hold and it kind of reminds me of a 00:05:38.460 --> 00:05:45.419 smaller steam deck it's like if the steam deck and a switch had a baby 00:05:43.740 --> 00:05:49.139 for that let's see how heavy this thing is in 00:05:47.400 --> 00:05:53.460 comparison to the competition it doesn't have its screws there is a can missing 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:59.580 and it doesn't have its SSD so this is a steam deck that's been lightened up a 00:05:55.380 --> 00:06:01.680 little bit uh 650 grams yeah 1.4 pounds 00:05:59.580 --> 00:06:08.220 switch OLED this is a little bit heavier than a standard switch almost a pound I 00:06:04.500 --> 00:06:10.340 think yeah 9.95 pounds or 0.96 pounds 00:06:08.220 --> 00:06:15.300 and this guy 366 grams it's like a yeah 0.8 pounds 00:06:13.740 --> 00:06:20.639 and that's not even the only thing we got here like the steam deck this thing 00:06:18.180 --> 00:06:27.000 has a dock okay the steamvax Dock's not available yet this one is this is eins 00:06:25.020 --> 00:06:31.500 super dock let's get it out of the packaging here because it's already kind 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:36.300 of exploded so that's why it felt flimsy this thing has a little window for you 00:06:33.780 --> 00:06:39.060 to slide your uh your iron Odin into so you basically just do this hole there I 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:45.240 guess yeah it just fits right in there just like a switch 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:50.600 and oh well yeah now it has a screen protector just take this word with you 00:06:46.740 --> 00:06:50.600 wherever you go at all 00:06:50.880 --> 00:06:58.380 also I'm noticing something pretty cursed this is the button layout for an 00:06:56.220 --> 00:07:03.720 Xbox controller you got a green a button red B button a blue x button and a 00:07:01.860 --> 00:07:09.780 yellow y button remember that pattern yellow B button red a button green y 00:07:07.080 --> 00:07:13.440 button and blue x button they are in completely different locations with 00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:17.639 completely different colors they kind of copied Nintendo more here in terms of 00:07:15.539 --> 00:07:22.259 the whole layout right so like I don't know why they couldn't have just kept 00:07:19.620 --> 00:07:28.699 the Colors oh so this is what makes it a super dock 00:07:24.539 --> 00:07:32.460 these are Nintendo 64 Controller ports 00:07:28.699 --> 00:07:35.340 so you can use an N64 controller on your 00:07:32.460 --> 00:07:42.240 on Odin with the super dock and these are GameCube controller ports 00:07:39.620 --> 00:07:46.400 so you don't even need an adapter or like a third-party controller or 00:07:44.039 --> 00:07:52.259 anything like that in order to get authentic controls for these games and 00:07:49.919 --> 00:07:57.360 that's the problem for most handhelds or even consoles because these controllers 00:07:54.479 --> 00:08:02.699 were so strange in their layout it's actually kind of difficult to map them 00:07:59.340 --> 00:08:04.680 to any kind of legible modern controller 00:08:02.699 --> 00:08:09.300 try playing an N64 game with an Xbox controller there are two hdmis on here 00:08:07.440 --> 00:08:14.099 okay well the type C is obviously for power Ethernet I I get that you get the 00:08:11.940 --> 00:08:17.699 three USBS seems a little Overkill because you also have two USBS up here 00:08:16.139 --> 00:08:21.960 which I mean how many things are you gonna hang off of this with USB if 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:28.379 you've already got Ethernet the HDMI output on the side is for 1080p 00:08:24.979 --> 00:08:32.459 specifically and the HDMI output on the 00:08:28.379 --> 00:08:35.940 back is for 4K specifically I've never 00:08:32.459 --> 00:08:37.680 seen that before I have no idea know why 00:08:35.940 --> 00:08:42.180 they couldn't have just made the 4K one do 1080p as well oh there's more to this 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:48.120 doc we're not done yet this really just puts 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:53.160 this dock over into why doesn't everything have this territory 00:08:51.540 --> 00:08:59.339 Omega dock there we go 00:08:55.019 --> 00:09:01.560 check that out that is a Serial ATA Port 00:08:59.339 --> 00:09:06.660 you can slide a two and a half inch hard drive or SSD into this thing and it'll 00:09:04.140 --> 00:09:11.880 automatically connect once you dock the Odin you can have a huge game library on 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:16.620 this and then carry like I don't know your Super Nintendo and NES games on 00:09:13.860 --> 00:09:21.420 this because they're small it's like The Best of Both Worlds this has all the i o 00:09:19.220 --> 00:09:27.120 every every doc should have this the steam deck dock should have this valve 00:09:24.420 --> 00:09:31.380 please the usb-c port is there and it's got like a little collar very awkward to 00:09:29.820 --> 00:09:34.680 get in there from here but yeah you know it makes it so that 00:09:33.180 --> 00:09:38.459 only when this is fully aligned 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:44.100 will it get down there so you're not going to scratch up your console it's 00:09:40.920 --> 00:09:45.420 like the perfect dock sorry I know I 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:50.519 just said that I was going to get it back together but as I'm doing it I'm 00:09:47.339 --> 00:09:53.220 reminded the one thing that I would 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:57.240 strongly hope to have fixed in a future revision there's no way to get this up 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:59.820 after you've taken the screws out without like sticking a screwdriver in 00:09:59.040 --> 00:10:04.980 here and like kind of prying it oh so there's 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:08.579 no way in like it's yeah that's that's something I'd like to see fix for a 00:10:06.959 --> 00:10:12.600 future revision other than that the doc's great see look it's it's begging 00:10:10.980 --> 00:10:17.720 for appeal it's got these little bubbles here just 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.720 pull it right off there 00:10:18.019 --> 00:10:21.740 uh I've had better 00:10:22.860 --> 00:10:26.000 nice boot up animation 00:10:26.100 --> 00:10:33.240 it doesn't look there's any proprietary anything in here as far as software goes 00:10:30.959 --> 00:10:39.860 Google server oh here here we go so Odin settings it's got an ambient LED 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:42.839 joystick out the joysticks light up 00:10:39.860 --> 00:10:48.720 I think it's just blue and the side LEDs oh it's got some uh some of that side 00:10:46.740 --> 00:10:52.560 lighting action so you have to choose and you have to restart it between 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:57.600 selecting this whether you want DisplayPort over type c which is 4K 60 00:10:54.779 --> 00:11:01.980 compatible or HDMI which is 1080p compatible so this version of it can in 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:07.920 fact run with this here a little port and the 1080p port on the side here or 00:11:05.459 --> 00:11:12.420 it can run with DisplayPort on the bottom performance seems 00:11:10.019 --> 00:11:17.160 solid I need to turn up the chunks count because it seems like it's a solid 60. 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:21.000 yeah supposedly this thing can do like Dreamcast games 00:11:18.839 --> 00:11:27.000 and a like a bunch of like really high-end emulators but it's also useful 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:34.560 for things like well mobile games Minecraft uh gentian impact what else do 00:11:30.540 --> 00:11:37.380 the do the kids play these days jono 00:11:34.560 --> 00:11:40.680 Cod mobile yeah so it slowed down a little bit while it was loading those 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:45.540 chunks but it is now back up to basically a solid 60 maybe a couple 00:11:42.839 --> 00:11:48.540 drops down into the 50s or 40s depending on what I'm looking at this is base this 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:54.660 is pretty much cranked at this point this is 1080p now granted Minecraft 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:57.120 isn't the most graphically intensive 00:11:54.660 --> 00:12:01.740 application out there but it is one of the most unoptimized applications out 00:12:00.060 --> 00:12:04.620 there okay so it's starting to chug a little bit when I look out this way so 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:09.540 there must be a whole bunch of stuff in that particular direction so it's like 00:12:07.019 --> 00:12:14.040 dropping down to like 30-ish I think yeah maybe maybe they'll play on maximum 00:12:12.180 --> 00:12:20.279 chunks but I mean this is a Snapdragon 845 SOC so you can basically expect 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:24.360 pretty much top tier performance but I was that's what I was going to say but 00:12:21.839 --> 00:12:30.800 is this fan thing just not a not a thing is that just not is that not a fan I 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:34.200 don't think that's a fan what are you 00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:37.079 287 US dollars for the extra 50 bucks 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:41.339 you get a better battery wait what else do you have more RAM and more storage 00:12:39.180 --> 00:12:46.920 obviously you go for the base of the pro right 67 US dollars for this there's not 00:12:45.660 --> 00:12:52.019 a whole lot of stuff in here like there's a USB hub obviously and an Ethernet controller and I guess a 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:55.560 DisplayPort to HDMI or I guess that's done on board I'm not entirely sure it 00:12:54.060 --> 00:13:02.279 does have the controller ports and stuff like a controller converter for this many 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:07.800 controllers would be probably more than that yeah get get the dock and get this 00:13:05.040 --> 00:13:13.260 cost you what like 350 bucks total and you've got pretty much the perfect 00:13:10.079 --> 00:13:15.300 hybrid portable device that you can you 00:13:13.260 --> 00:13:19.260 can get for for like Retro Gaming yeah you can stream stream PC games with um I 00:13:17.339 --> 00:13:24.720 think steameda steam link or Moonlight if you've got an NVIDIA card or AMD link 00:13:21.660 --> 00:13:29.040 I was going to just leave it there but 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:31.440 jono so rudely interrupted my attempts 00:13:29.040 --> 00:13:37.440 to close this video out by saying hey you should go and put on some crab Rave 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:40.579 it's a little distorty at max volume 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.579 Highs are good though 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.339 having your hands there does change it very significantly 00:13:47.760 --> 00:13:52.399 oh that's not bad like it's not amazing 00:13:53.880 --> 00:13:58.339 very different sound signature with your hands away from it 00:13:59.459 --> 00:14:06.959 the stereo Imaging sounds pretty good the top end sounds pretty tight the bass 00:14:04.860 --> 00:14:11.040 is heavier than I would expect it does get a little bit distorty up at the max 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:22.579 volume but overall Clarity is really good um let me just quickly do my phone 00:14:22.579 --> 00:14:28.980 thank you very strong 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:32.040 very strong performance I would say that it actually probably sounds better than 00:14:30.779 --> 00:14:35.399 my phone because of the stereo separation I would have expected the 00:14:33.899 --> 00:14:40.139 speakers especially on a device that costs this little to be a weak point 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:44.160 because they always are it's always either the screen or the speakers or the 00:14:42.180 --> 00:14:49.019 controls but none of it feels bad and none of it is bad it's all very solid 00:14:46.380 --> 00:14:53.880 obviously the chipset is going to be the limiting factor it's not like the top 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:59.459 end Snapdragon but it's an 845 which is not a slouch especially for the price 00:14:55.800 --> 00:15:01.019 would I buy this uh probably like if I 00:14:59.459 --> 00:15:04.920 were in the market for something like this I mean I got a steam deck 00:15:02.459 --> 00:15:08.940 reservation in so I'm not currently but at the same time like the steam deck is 00:15:06.779 --> 00:15:13.260 huge by comparison so like if I if I had to commute every day this would be my 00:15:11.100 --> 00:15:16.860 go-to probably not the steam deck that's just the bottom line thanks for watching 00:15:14.880 --> 00:15:20.459 this episode of ShortCircuit guys this is uh not entirely retro flavored but 00:15:19.139 --> 00:15:25.019 pretty retro if you want something similar maybe go check out our analog 00:15:22.620 --> 00:15:28.339 Pocket episode got plenty more like this and not like it as well