1 00:00:00,319 --> 00:00:08,099 it's retro handheld time this is the Ein 2 00:00:05,220 --> 00:00:13,440 Odin a project that I've been kind of looking at ever since that video I did 3 00:00:10,139 --> 00:00:17,279 on the Amber Nick and retroid pocket on 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:20,100 LTT this is different this promises to 5 00:00:17,279 --> 00:00:25,859 be for the Retro handheld Community what the steam deck is to the PC Community 6 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:27,840 that's big shoes to fill let's take a 7 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:32,040 look at the box and see if they uh okay there's nothing really they didn't even 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:35,520 take any of the boxes for what we have I don't know if we got a light a base or a 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:40,980 pro model there are three models let's just get into the box and calm ourselves 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,719 down for you I have this screen 11 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:48,379 protector and if you will not calm down I will 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,379 break it 13 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:55,500 tempered glass actually yeah a pretty good screen protector all right so we 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:59,460 got the unit itself in a little baggie what else we got here oh nice little 15 00:00:57,660 --> 00:01:06,600 fabric we got a USB type 16 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:09,360 type a to c but it's purple 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:12,119 why yeah that looks like 2.0 to me there's only four contacts in there if 18 00:01:10,979 --> 00:01:16,860 you're entering the system right this runs Android we have three CPU options 19 00:01:14,460 --> 00:01:20,400 we've got the Snapdragon A45 then the cryo gold and cryo silver which I'm not 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:27,240 sure the big and little cores is that what that is four or eight gigs of RAM a 21 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:29,600 full HD IPS display six inches well 5.98 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:36,060 inches close enough with touch 369 PPI nice dragon Trail glass oh no I 23 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:41,700 feel even worse about that screen protector Wireless up to AC so not 24 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:48,360 wireless six or anything like that USB 3.1 type c on it with mini HDMI 3.5 25 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:51,259 millimeter audio jack Android 10. the retroid I think only ever goes up to 26 00:01:50,460 --> 00:01:56,579 Android seven or nine maybe if you update it 27 00:01:54,119 --> 00:02:02,040 like it comes with five the Amber Nick just runs emulation station you know I 28 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:05,820 think a Linux distro of some kind this runs Android 10 so that means it can 29 00:02:04,020 --> 00:02:10,979 actually run some fairly recent applications if you want to so you could 30 00:02:08,099 --> 00:02:14,520 actually use it for mobile gaming in the traditional sense all right let's get it 31 00:02:12,420 --> 00:02:17,280 out of the packaging here first I need to talk to you about our sponsor 32 00:02:15,540 --> 00:02:20,340 yougreen thanks to you green 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like almost like a soft touch it it feels yeah satiny the oh it's got 43 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,840 triggers and they feel good and they have a little detent at the end too 44 00:03:05,340 --> 00:03:11,340 there's like when you get down to the end there's a little bit of extra 45 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:15,000 tension required to get it down to the actual end of the travel actually that'd 46 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:19,680 be pretty good for GameCube emulation because GameCube has that extra detent 47 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:23,280 that's pretty cool it's got paddles on the back here I'm not sure what you'd 48 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:27,180 use those for probably I guess just map it to whatever you want it does have a 49 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,060 cooling fan or at least I think that's a fan in there so yeah these are the 50 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,379 speakers here they're stereo they'll fire down into your palms which actually 51 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:37,560 might be good for audio quality because like they're not firing directly into so 52 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:43,200 that they'd be muffled but they're firing in such a way that when you're holding the device the sound will come 53 00:03:40,739 --> 00:03:48,180 down into your palm and then reflect up the shoulder buttons feel very nice 54 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:52,920 these are really thin they're reassuring the clicky honestly really shocking I'm 55 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:57,239 not a huge fan of the clickiness of the d-pad it's got tactile switches instead 56 00:03:54,959 --> 00:04:00,720 of rubber domes which I mean some people like that it is faster than a rubber 57 00:03:58,980 --> 00:04:04,260 Dome and you know you know when you've actually pressed it but if you're used 58 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:09,480 to rubber domes it's a little bit annoying also the d-pad is pretty small 59 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,799 like my finger covers the whole thing I 60 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:16,739 mean if you're playing a fighting game you're probably not going to want to use the d-pad these analog sticks feel a lot 61 00:04:14,340 --> 00:04:22,440 like the Nintendo switch and I think they may actually be Nintendo switch 62 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,060 analog sticks from The Joy cons the face 63 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,960 buttons themselves are a rubber dumb though so that is a good feeling for me 64 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:32,160 and they they got a pretty good snap to them they feel 65 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:39,120 good what is this a little door for our oh it's got a 66 00:04:34,979 --> 00:04:43,259 micro HDMI as well as a uh trans flash 67 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:45,780 card slot in MicroSD this size like this 68 00:04:43,259 --> 00:04:50,240 is this is fairly pocketable here's my iPhone right next to it like it's 69 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:56,580 basically my iPhone but with controllers it feels identical 70 00:04:54,139 --> 00:05:00,180 possibly you might get drift issues I I'd have to take this apart to see if 71 00:04:58,139 --> 00:05:04,139 it's the same like actual mechanism and just the cap that's different and it's 72 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:08,039 only very slightly different the motion feels identical it is smaller than the 73 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:12,900 regular switch it is a little bit thicker though it's only because they've 74 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:17,400 got these grips whereas the switch is just completely flat on the back so this 75 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:22,800 has that contoured grip which honestly again it feels really nice in the hand 76 00:05:19,979 --> 00:05:27,960 it's nice to hold it's similar to the way the steam deck feels with those uh 77 00:05:25,979 --> 00:05:31,979 this one's kind of taken apart a little bit but yeah it's got that molding on 78 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:36,720 the back that you know makes it thicker and a little bit more unwieldy but at 79 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:40,080 the same time it makes it much easier to hold and it kind of reminds me of a 80 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:45,419 smaller steam deck it's like if the steam deck and a switch had a baby 81 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:49,139 for that let's see how heavy this thing is in 82 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:53,460 comparison to the competition it doesn't have its screws there is a can missing 83 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:59,580 and it doesn't have its SSD so this is a steam deck that's been lightened up a 84 00:05:55,380 --> 00:06:01,680 little bit uh 650 grams yeah 1.4 pounds 85 00:05:59,580 --> 00:06:08,220 switch OLED this is a little bit heavier than a standard switch almost a pound I 86 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:10,340 think yeah 9.95 pounds or 0.96 pounds 87 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:15,300 and this guy 366 grams it's like a yeah 0.8 pounds 88 00:06:13,740 --> 00:06:20,639 and that's not even the only thing we got here like the steam deck this thing 89 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:27,000 has a dock okay the steamvax Dock's not available yet this one is this is eins 90 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:31,500 super dock let's get it out of the packaging here because it's already kind 91 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:36,300 of exploded so that's why it felt flimsy this thing has a little window for you 92 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:39,060 to slide your uh your iron Odin into so you basically just do this hole there I 93 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:45,240 guess yeah it just fits right in there just like a switch 94 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:50,600 and oh well yeah now it has a screen protector just take this word with you 95 00:06:46,740 --> 00:06:50,600 wherever you go at all 96 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:58,380 also I'm noticing something pretty cursed this is the button layout for an 97 00:06:56,220 --> 00:07:03,720 Xbox controller you got a green a button red B button a blue x button and a 98 00:07:01,860 --> 00:07:09,780 yellow y button remember that pattern yellow B button red a button green y 99 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,440 button and blue x button they are in completely different locations with 100 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,639 completely different colors they kind of copied Nintendo more here in terms of 101 00:07:15,539 --> 00:07:22,259 the whole layout right so like I don't know why they couldn't have just kept 102 00:07:19,620 --> 00:07:28,699 the Colors oh so this is what makes it a super dock 103 00:07:24,539 --> 00:07:32,460 these are Nintendo 64 Controller ports 104 00:07:28,699 --> 00:07:35,340 so you can use an N64 controller on your 105 00:07:32,460 --> 00:07:42,240 on Odin with the super dock and these are GameCube controller ports 106 00:07:39,620 --> 00:07:46,400 so you don't even need an adapter or like a third-party controller or 107 00:07:44,039 --> 00:07:52,259 anything like that in order to get authentic controls for these games and 108 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:57,360 that's the problem for most handhelds or even consoles because these controllers 109 00:07:54,479 --> 00:08:02,699 were so strange in their layout it's actually kind of difficult to map them 110 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:04,680 to any kind of legible modern controller 111 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:09,300 try playing an N64 game with an Xbox controller there are two hdmis on here 112 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:14,099 okay well the type C is obviously for power Ethernet I I get that you get the 113 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:17,699 three USBS seems a little Overkill because you also have two USBS up here 114 00:08:16,139 --> 00:08:21,960 which I mean how many things are you gonna hang off of this with USB if 115 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:28,379 you've already got Ethernet the HDMI output on the side is for 1080p 116 00:08:24,979 --> 00:08:32,459 specifically and the HDMI output on the 117 00:08:28,379 --> 00:08:35,940 back is for 4K specifically I've never 118 00:08:32,459 --> 00:08:37,680 seen that before I have no idea know why 119 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:42,180 they couldn't have just made the 4K one do 1080p as well oh there's more to this 120 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:48,120 doc we're not done yet this really just puts 121 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:53,160 this dock over into why doesn't everything have this territory 122 00:08:51,540 --> 00:08:59,339 Omega dock there we go 123 00:08:55,019 --> 00:09:01,560 check that out that is a Serial ATA Port 124 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:06,660 you can slide a two and a half inch hard drive or SSD into this thing and it'll 125 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:11,880 automatically connect once you dock the Odin you can have a huge game library on 126 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:16,620 this and then carry like I don't know your Super Nintendo and NES games on 127 00:09:13,860 --> 00:09:21,420 this because they're small it's like The Best of Both Worlds this has all the i o 128 00:09:19,220 --> 00:09:27,120 every every doc should have this the steam deck dock should have this valve 129 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:31,380 please the usb-c port is there and it's got like a little collar very awkward to 130 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:34,680 get in there from here but yeah you know it makes it so that 131 00:09:33,180 --> 00:09:38,459 only when this is fully aligned 132 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:44,100 will it get down there so you're not going to scratch up your console it's 133 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,420 like the perfect dock sorry I know I 134 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:50,519 just said that I was going to get it back together but as I'm doing it I'm 135 00:09:47,339 --> 00:09:53,220 reminded the one thing that I would 136 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:57,240 strongly hope to have fixed in a future revision there's no way to get this up 137 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,820 after you've taken the screws out without like sticking a screwdriver in 138 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,980 here and like kind of prying it oh so there's 139 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,579 no way in like it's yeah that's that's something I'd like to see fix for a 140 00:10:06,959 --> 00:10:12,600 future revision other than that the doc's great see look it's it's begging 141 00:10:10,980 --> 00:10:17,720 for appeal it's got these little bubbles here just 142 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:17,720 pull it right off there 143 00:10:18,019 --> 00:10:21,740 uh I've had better 144 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:26,000 nice boot up animation 145 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:33,240 it doesn't look there's any proprietary anything in here as far as software goes 146 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:39,860 Google server oh here here we go so Odin settings it's got an ambient LED 147 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:42,839 joystick out the joysticks light up 148 00:10:39,860 --> 00:10:48,720 I think it's just blue and the side LEDs oh it's got some uh some of that side 149 00:10:46,740 --> 00:10:52,560 lighting action so you have to choose and you have to restart it between 150 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:57,600 selecting this whether you want DisplayPort over type c which is 4K 60 151 00:10:54,779 --> 00:11:01,980 compatible or HDMI which is 1080p compatible so this version of it can in 152 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:07,920 fact run with this here a little port and the 1080p port on the side here or 153 00:11:05,459 --> 00:11:12,420 it can run with DisplayPort on the bottom performance seems 154 00:11:10,019 --> 00:11:17,160 solid I need to turn up the chunks count because it seems like it's a solid 60. 155 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:21,000 yeah supposedly this thing can do like Dreamcast games 156 00:11:18,839 --> 00:11:27,000 and a like a bunch of like really high-end emulators but it's also useful 157 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:34,560 for things like well mobile games Minecraft uh gentian impact what else do 158 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:37,380 the do the kids play these days jono 159 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:40,680 Cod mobile yeah so it slowed down a little bit while it was loading those 160 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:45,540 chunks but it is now back up to basically a solid 60 maybe a couple 161 00:11:42,839 --> 00:11:48,540 drops down into the 50s or 40s depending on what I'm looking at this is base this 162 00:11:47,220 --> 00:11:54,660 is pretty much cranked at this point this is 1080p now granted Minecraft 163 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:57,120 isn't the most graphically intensive 164 00:11:54,660 --> 00:12:01,740 application out there but it is one of the most unoptimized applications out 165 00:12:00,060 --> 00:12:04,620 there okay so it's starting to chug a little bit when I look out this way so 166 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,540 there must be a whole bunch of stuff in that particular direction so it's like 167 00:12:07,019 --> 00:12:14,040 dropping down to like 30-ish I think yeah maybe maybe they'll play on maximum 168 00:12:12,180 --> 00:12:20,279 chunks but I mean this is a Snapdragon 845 SOC so you can basically expect 169 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:24,360 pretty much top tier performance but I was that's what I was going to say but 170 00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:30,800 is this fan thing just not a not a thing is that just not is that not a fan I 171 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:34,200 don't think that's a fan what are you 172 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:37,079 287 US dollars for the extra 50 bucks 173 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:41,339 you get a better battery wait what else do you have more RAM and more storage 174 00:12:39,180 --> 00:12:46,920 obviously you go for the base of the pro right 67 US dollars for this there's not 175 00:12:45,660 --> 00:12:52,019 a whole lot of stuff in here like there's a USB hub obviously and an Ethernet controller and I guess a 176 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:55,560 DisplayPort to HDMI or I guess that's done on board I'm not entirely sure it 177 00:12:54,060 --> 00:13:02,279 does have the controller ports and stuff like a controller converter for this many 178 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:07,800 controllers would be probably more than that yeah get get the dock and get this 179 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:13,260 cost you what like 350 bucks total and you've got pretty much the perfect 180 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:15,300 hybrid portable device that you can you 181 00:13:13,260 --> 00:13:19,260 can get for for like Retro Gaming yeah you can stream stream PC games with um I 182 00:13:17,339 --> 00:13:24,720 think steameda steam link or Moonlight if you've got an NVIDIA card or AMD link 183 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:29,040 I was going to just leave it there but 184 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:31,440 jono so rudely interrupted my attempts 185 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:37,440 to close this video out by saying hey you should go and put on some crab Rave 186 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:40,579 it's a little distorty at max volume 187 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,579 Highs are good though 188 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,339 having your hands there does change it very significantly 189 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,399 oh that's not bad like it's not amazing 190 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,339 very different sound signature with your hands away from it 191 00:13:59,459 --> 00:14:06,959 the stereo Imaging sounds pretty good the top end sounds pretty tight the bass 192 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:11,040 is heavier than I would expect it does get a little bit distorty up at the max 193 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:22,579 volume but overall Clarity is really good um let me just quickly do my phone 194 00:14:22,579 --> 00:14:28,980 thank you very strong 195 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:32,040 very strong performance I would say that it actually probably sounds better than 196 00:14:30,779 --> 00:14:35,399 my phone because of the stereo separation I would have expected the 197 00:14:33,899 --> 00:14:40,139 speakers especially on a device that costs this little to be a weak point 198 00:14:38,220 --> 00:14:44,160 because they always are it's always either the screen or the speakers or the 199 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:49,019 controls but none of it feels bad and none of it is bad it's all very solid 200 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:53,880 obviously the chipset is going to be the limiting factor it's not like the top 201 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:59,459 end Snapdragon but it's an 845 which is not a slouch especially for the price 202 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:01,019 would I buy this uh probably like if I 203 00:14:59,459 --> 00:15:04,920 were in the market for something like this I mean I got a steam deck 204 00:15:02,459 --> 00:15:08,940 reservation in so I'm not currently but at the same time like the steam deck is 205 00:15:06,779 --> 00:15:13,260 huge by comparison so like if I if I had to commute every day this would be my 206 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:16,860 go-to probably not the steam deck that's just the bottom line thanks for watching 207 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:20,459 this episode of ShortCircuit guys this is uh not entirely retro flavored but 208 00:15:19,139 --> 00:15:25,019 pretty retro if you want something similar maybe go check out our analog 209 00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:28,339 Pocket episode got plenty more like this and not like it as well