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right off the bat some of you eagle-eyed viewers probably noticed that this is not a founder's edition and there's a good reason for that there isn't one NVIDIA left this launch entirely up to its board partners and that means that we are going to see a pretty wide variety of designs ASUS alone has four but contrary to the eec filings that were spotted prior to the launch the core specs of all of them are going to be the same so there's no weird variations with cut down memory to confuse people for now not that there won't be any confusion what the actual is up with the name of this thing 1660 ti the best guess that we came up with is that it has 16 fp16 and 16 fp32 cores but then when we asked NVIDIA their official response after playing koi and pretending not to know that it wasn't perfectly normal was that they chose it to differentiate it from the rtx 2060 which is almost as stupid as the way that they then giggled about it like school children because there was a real reason that they couldn't tell us so tldr for those interested is that it is some kind of inside joke and knowing those guys it's probably a dirty one kind of like how GeForce experience obviously shortens to gf or girlfriend experience a more premium prostitution service where she pretends to be genuinely interested in you instead of just having quick sex and leaving so cool i guess why don't we move on specs wise at the 1660s heart is the more sensibly named tu-116 GPU which NVIDIA claims is not simply a tu-106 with some features cut out but rather a brand new GPU engineered from the ground up without the machine learning tensor or real-time ray tracing rt course from the rtx series it's got 20 percent fewer cuda cores than the rtx 2060 so on the surface it looks like it'll be much slower even in conventional games without rtx on but thankfully just like we saw with the Radeon 7 compared to vega 64 we are also treated to a hefty core clock increase which should help make up some ground especially considering that we will still get all of the other touring goodies cash improvements variable rate shader rendering concurrent floating point and integer processing and perhaps most importantly for the entry-level game streamers out there that new touring and bank engine that provides image quality comparable to CPU driven x264 that crispy gameplay footage now we're only going to use one test bench today to keep things a little simpler than our Radeon 7 review but it should give you a good idea of where this card falls and the gaming results look very promising at 1080p we are seeing equivalent or better performance than the gtx 1070 across the board and titles that are designed with simultaneous floating point and integer math in mind like shadow of the tomb raider see a pretty big performance boost it's especially important to consider here that the gtx 1070 has 384 more cuda cores than the new 1660 ti that's impressive and these results even carried over to our 1440p testing where we got playable if less consistent frame rates on this very mid-range card this is the generational improvement that we had been looking for in touring up until now it's just taken NVIDIA this long to strip out some of those cost adding features that many gamers don't want to pay more for right now when we move on to productivity though the gtx 1660 ti falters somewhat now it does at least keep up with the 1070 that it's looking to usurp in most tasks with longer blender renders being a particularly strong point but in other tests like luxmark and most of specuperf we're looking at significantly less consistency it does come out ahead sometimes but then also significantly behind in other times in fairness though i guess we should expect this from a card that has fewer cuda cores but then executes combined math instructions more efficiently with a more efficient cache setup as for thermals well this high-end board design from ASUS represents a best case scenario with a seriously overbuilt cooler so i won't spend too much time talking about it but what we can glean a bit of information from is the power draw this card draws nearly 10 watts less power on the 12 volt connector than the rtx 2060 and even less than the gtx 1070 which if you'll recall it meets or exceeds in terms of performance not a bad result and it gets even better even our pre-factory overclocked card had some headroom for overclocking with oc scanner and with more direct tuning it could probably go a little further silicon lottery willing so then let's answer the big question here was video right to be truly teed off with me when i concluded my rtx 2060 review by recommending that our viewers simply wait for this card which at that time was a mere rumor that did they deny it no they just refused to comment on it well even ignoring the missing features that define the rtx cards from a price to performance standpoint things are actually a little blurry here so our top of the line ASUS card here costs 329 that is just 20 bucks cheaper than a reference rtx 2060. honestly that makes the ray tracing and tensor core equipped version the obvious choice in every scenario so as usual the premium versions of mainstream products don't make a ton of sense but when we drop down to the reference model at 279 which should perform pretty much the same the gtx 1660s value proposition becomes a little more clear it outpaces AMD's rx 590 at a similar price and it outpaces the gtx 1070 which launched at a hundred dollars more and currently sells for 300 so for folks looking for an upgrade from a 9 or a lower end 10 series card hey a card that cost less than 300 for that kind of performance is an excellent value proposition the only problem is that if you're ponying up for a whole new system rather than upgrading by our numbers it's basically a no-brainer to spend the extra seventy dollars on an rtx 2060. we're actually planning a full video where we talk about this particular value 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