WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:08.800 On the 16th of November 2013, Linus released a video called Low-End Video 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:11.120 Cards Rant and Radeon R7240 Unboxing and 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:15.679 Review, which was known internally as low-end graphics cards are. You can 00:00:13.360 --> 00:00:19.600 click here to go check it out. If you do go check it out, scroll down a bit to 00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:23.359 the comments. This is why we were determined that we needed a follow-up. I 00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:28.000 will address some of those that commented and their misconceptions and 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:33.810 try to add a bit of my own points to the conversation through some interesting 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:40.719 benchmarks. Let's do this. 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:46.879 Apacers AS720 is a dual interface SSD 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:48.399 with USB 3.1 typeC on one end and SATA 00:00:46.879 --> 00:00:52.640 on the other with read speeds of up to 540 megabytes per second and right 00:00:50.559 --> 00:00:56.000 speeds of 450 megabytes per second. Check the link in the video description 00:00:53.760 --> 00:01:01.359 to learn more. The first comment I'm going to address was from Michael H aka 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.280 Freakazoid 777. Michael claimed that he 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:07.840 could think of many situations where one would want to buy a lowprofile ultra 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:13.119 cheap graphics card, but that Lionus's gamer mind clearly polluted his ability 00:01:10.240 --> 00:01:18.159 to think outside the box. A little aggro, but regardless, Lionus already 00:01:16.080 --> 00:01:21.439 replied, and Michael admitted that he may have been a little off the point 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:26.159 with that one. The point Lionus was trying to make wasn't that no one could 00:01:23.759 --> 00:01:30.960 ever use a lowprofile graphics card. The point he was trying to make is that the 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:32.880 R seven240 is actually too expensive for 00:01:30.960 --> 00:01:38.400 the performance it delivers, making it a terrible value. This is not only true 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:42.400 for games, but also for any application that relies on GPU power. So, thinking 00:01:40.479 --> 00:01:47.040 outside the box, if you needed the compute performance, it just isn't 00:01:44.479 --> 00:01:51.040 there. Macaffer claims that people don't buy these for gaming anyway, unless 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:55.280 they're illinformed. that people should buy these if, say, they have an older 00:01:53.439 --> 00:02:00.640 motherboard that the video out died on or they just need more ports in general. 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:05.360 Sorry, but that would also be illinformed. If someone just needs more 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:09.039 video out ports, buying this card is literally throwing money away. If you 00:02:07.600 --> 00:02:13.440 just need a graphics card so you can hook up more monitors, you can pick up 00:02:10.640 --> 00:02:18.959 something like the GT210. It's 30 bucks on Amazon compared to the 70 for an 00:02:15.440 --> 00:02:21.440 R7240. Has DVI, HDMI, and VGA 00:02:18.959 --> 00:02:25.599 connections. is passively cooled and if you spend $35 total, it has free 00:02:24.160 --> 00:02:30.239 shipping. So, grab yourself a couple snacks and a drink. Within a couple 00:02:27.760 --> 00:02:34.560 days, you've got some nom noms and a GPU for half the price that is going to be 00:02:32.720 --> 00:02:38.080 equally capable of driving your extra monitors for non-gaming or compute 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:42.560 applications. If you don't care about low profile, which is likely, but your 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:46.879 problem lies more on the affordability side of things, I would still definitely 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:50.319 not ever buy this card. There are comments talking about needing a 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:54.800 graphics card but not having the money to get to the price performance sweet 00:02:52.239 --> 00:03:00.239 spot. Lionus suggested just waiting and saving. But we also understand that this 00:02:57.200 --> 00:03:02.000 isn't an option for everyone. If this is 00:03:00.239 --> 00:03:07.519 your budget and it's not going to change, that's fine. Buy something used. 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:11.920 Check out Scrapyard Wars. We build pretty kick-ass computers for like 300 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:15.680 bucks all the time. and the budget that you'd have for something like an R 00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:21.120 seven240 looking at my local used sites like Craigslist could get a GTX 660, 00:03:19.200 --> 00:03:25.920 which would kick its ass in terms of performance. So, no, that's not a valid 00:03:23.920 --> 00:03:29.519 argument. Basically, if all you need is a low profile card, get a different one. 00:03:28.239 --> 00:03:34.879 If you don't care about gaming performance, this is too expensive for your use case. Find something else. If 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:39.360 you don't have the money for something new that's better, buy used. We're not 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:43.599 trying to attack people that don't have the money. For the vast majority of my 00:03:41.200 --> 00:03:48.400 life, that's where I was at. We're trying to help them to not waste the 00:03:45.920 --> 00:03:53.120 little that they have on trash that offers no benefit. Okay, so that 00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:57.280 addresses, I hope, the issues people had with the first video, which brings us to 00:03:54.959 --> 00:04:01.920 the new part of this video, the 2016 update, if you will. Since we don't have 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:05.680 the R7240 anymore, I went out and bought the newest card that I could find in 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:09.599 that price point. And what I could find ended up being the NVIDIA GT730. We went 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:15.760 with the green team this time to demonstrate that we weren't picking on AMD specifically last time around and 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:20.639 that the problem is actually universal. It's basically the same story as the R 00:04:17.840 --> 00:04:25.520 seven240. I put this on our standard graphics card test bench running 00:04:21.919 --> 00:04:27.440 alongside an i7 5930 K in order to not 00:04:25.520 --> 00:04:32.960 have to worry about bottlenecking at all. And then I tested it against a 6700 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:38.560 K not overclocked using its integrated GPU, the Intel HD Graphics 530. The 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:43.440 results may be a little surprising. The 6700 K with its integrated graphics card 00:04:41.280 --> 00:04:47.360 handily beat the 730 in Tomb Raider. More or less equaled it in Counterstrike 00:04:45.440 --> 00:04:52.080 and didn't do quite as bad as it did in Far Cry 4. In every scenario, it was 00:04:49.919 --> 00:04:56.880 better. The 730 just had its ass handed to it by an integrated GPU. I realize 00:04:54.800 --> 00:05:01.120 this scenario won't be applicable to a ton of people, but if you will be able 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:04.720 to save up for more, but need a system now and don't have quite the money for 00:05:02.960 --> 00:05:09.840 everything that you wanted, instead of stepping down your platform and buying 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:11.840 something like a 730, just wait and run 00:05:09.840 --> 00:05:16.000 your iGPU for a bit and get something more sensible later on. Basically, what 00:05:14.320 --> 00:05:21.440 we're trying to say is that there are lots of good approaches. Buy a cheaper 00:05:19.280 --> 00:05:27.840 lowprofile card with the video that you need. Buy used or use your iGPU or APU. 00:05:25.440 --> 00:05:32.479 The only terrible option is buying an entry-level card like the R7240 or 00:05:30.479 --> 00:05:36.479 GT730. 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So, click the button in the top right hand corner to check out this video 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:51.520 where we unbox and review a card that is great to buy used. It has been featured 00:06:49.039 --> 00:06:56.720 on Scrapyard Wars twice. It's not that cheap, but the value is actually pretty 00:06:53.440 --> 00:06:59.440 good. So, yeah, it's a it's a 290. It's 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:02.000 an R9. It's an R9 290. It's it's up there.