1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,800 On the 16th of November 2013, Linus released a video called Low-End Video 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:11,120 Cards Rant and Radeon R7240 Unboxing and 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:15,679 Review, which was known internally as low-end graphics cards are. You can 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:19,600 click here to go check it out. If you do go check it out, scroll down a bit to 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,359 the comments. This is why we were determined that we needed a follow-up. I 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:28,000 will address some of those that commented and their misconceptions and 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:33,810 try to add a bit of my own points to the conversation through some interesting 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:40,719 benchmarks. Let's do this. 9 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:46,879 Apacers AS720 is a dual interface SSD 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,399 with USB 3.1 typeC on one end and SATA 11 00:00:46,879 --> 00:00:52,640 on the other with read speeds of up to 540 megabytes per second and right 12 00:00:50,559 --> 00:00:56,000 speeds of 450 megabytes per second. Check the link in the video description 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:01:01,359 to learn more. The first comment I'm going to address was from Michael H aka 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Freakazoid 777. Michael claimed that he 15 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:07,840 could think of many situations where one would want to buy a lowprofile ultra 16 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:13,119 cheap graphics card, but that Lionus's gamer mind clearly polluted his ability 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:18,159 to think outside the box. A little aggro, but regardless, Lionus already 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,439 replied, and Michael admitted that he may have been a little off the point 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:26,159 with that one. The point Lionus was trying to make wasn't that no one could 20 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:30,960 ever use a lowprofile graphics card. The point he was trying to make is that the 21 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:32,880 R seven240 is actually too expensive for 22 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:38,400 the performance it delivers, making it a terrible value. This is not only true 23 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:42,400 for games, but also for any application that relies on GPU power. So, thinking 24 00:01:40,479 --> 00:01:47,040 outside the box, if you needed the compute performance, it just isn't 25 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:51,040 there. Macaffer claims that people don't buy these for gaming anyway, unless 26 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,280 they're illinformed. that people should buy these if, say, they have an older 27 00:01:53,439 --> 00:02:00,640 motherboard that the video out died on or they just need more ports in general. 28 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:05,360 Sorry, but that would also be illinformed. If someone just needs more 29 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:09,039 video out ports, buying this card is literally throwing money away. If you 30 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:13,440 just need a graphics card so you can hook up more monitors, you can pick up 31 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:18,959 something like the GT210. It's 30 bucks on Amazon compared to the 70 for an 32 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:21,440 R7240. Has DVI, HDMI, and VGA 33 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:25,599 connections. is passively cooled and if you spend $35 total, it has free 34 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:30,239 shipping. So, grab yourself a couple snacks and a drink. Within a couple 35 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,560 days, you've got some nom noms and a GPU for half the price that is going to be 36 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:38,080 equally capable of driving your extra monitors for non-gaming or compute 37 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,560 applications. If you don't care about low profile, which is likely, but your 38 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,879 problem lies more on the affordability side of things, I would still definitely 39 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,319 not ever buy this card. There are comments talking about needing a 40 00:02:48,319 --> 00:02:54,800 graphics card but not having the money to get to the price performance sweet 41 00:02:52,239 --> 00:03:00,239 spot. Lionus suggested just waiting and saving. But we also understand that this 42 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,000 isn't an option for everyone. If this is 43 00:03:00,239 --> 00:03:07,519 your budget and it's not going to change, that's fine. Buy something used. 44 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,920 Check out Scrapyard Wars. We build pretty kick-ass computers for like 300 45 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:15,680 bucks all the time. and the budget that you'd have for something like an R 46 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:21,120 seven240 looking at my local used sites like Craigslist could get a GTX 660, 47 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:25,920 which would kick its ass in terms of performance. So, no, that's not a valid 48 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:29,519 argument. Basically, if all you need is a low profile card, get a different one. 49 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:34,879 If you don't care about gaming performance, this is too expensive for your use case. Find something else. If 50 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:39,360 you don't have the money for something new that's better, buy used. We're not 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,599 trying to attack people that don't have the money. For the vast majority of my 52 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:48,400 life, that's where I was at. We're trying to help them to not waste the 53 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:53,120 little that they have on trash that offers no benefit. Okay, so that 54 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:57,280 addresses, I hope, the issues people had with the first video, which brings us to 55 00:03:54,959 --> 00:04:01,920 the new part of this video, the 2016 update, if you will. Since we don't have 56 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:05,680 the R7240 anymore, I went out and bought the newest card that I could find in 57 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:09,599 that price point. And what I could find ended up being the NVIDIA GT730. We went 58 00:04:08,159 --> 00:04:15,760 with the green team this time to demonstrate that we weren't picking on AMD specifically last time around and 59 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:20,639 that the problem is actually universal. It's basically the same story as the R 60 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:25,520 seven240. I put this on our standard graphics card test bench running 61 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:27,440 alongside an i7 5930 K in order to not 62 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:32,960 have to worry about bottlenecking at all. And then I tested it against a 6700 63 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:38,560 K not overclocked using its integrated GPU, the Intel HD Graphics 530. The 64 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:43,440 results may be a little surprising. The 6700 K with its integrated graphics card 65 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:47,360 handily beat the 730 in Tomb Raider. More or less equaled it in Counterstrike 66 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:52,080 and didn't do quite as bad as it did in Far Cry 4. In every scenario, it was 67 00:04:49,919 --> 00:04:56,880 better. The 730 just had its ass handed to it by an integrated GPU. I realize 68 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:01,120 this scenario won't be applicable to a ton of people, but if you will be able 69 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:04,720 to save up for more, but need a system now and don't have quite the money for 70 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,840 everything that you wanted, instead of stepping down your platform and buying 71 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:11,840 something like a 730, just wait and run 72 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:16,000 your iGPU for a bit and get something more sensible later on. Basically, what 73 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:21,440 we're trying to say is that there are lots of good approaches. Buy a cheaper 74 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:27,840 lowprofile card with the video that you need. Buy used or use your iGPU or APU. 75 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:32,479 The only terrible option is buying an entry-level card like the R7240 or 76 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:36,479 GT730. 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