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for years i've been telling manufacturers look i don't really see the difference between a monitor and a

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tv and it's driven me especially crazy when within one company like say for

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example lg they have completely

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different technologies that they're using for the different product lines i

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mean we're at the point now where a big monitor is already the size of like a

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couple generations ago tv anyway well looks like lg's tv division finally

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got the message and ever since they first unveiled the c10 48-inch OLED

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tv they've been kind of quietly marketing

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it as a gaming slash productivity

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monitor so today we're gonna see if that

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the first time i saw someone use a tv as a monitor was probably in the mid 2000s

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at a lan party the guy hauled it all the way there because he was like guys

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you're not gonna believe this it's the greatest gaming experience ever it's so

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immersive meanwhile i'm looking at it going unless i was sitting this far away

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from it that looks like hot garbage dude because it was running at 1366 by 768.

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well that problem is behind us if you look at these marks on the floor we've

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got the location of the tv a couple of optimal viewing distances sort of

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specifying how much of your field of view cinematic content should take up

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and then perhaps most importantly this visual acuity distance this is the

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marker for where i should be able to sit to not be able to make out any

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individual pixels on the display because the c10 48 inch is 4k

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i can actually sit this close to it and this is theoretical but

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i can't make out any of the pixels yeah i mean this looks looks freaking awesome

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so does it hold up when we get this close you know what's funny because the

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display is so large i may actually be significantly further away from the

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corners than i am from the center distance from the screen itself is about

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20 inches distance from the corner if i was to

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read the text on recycle bin 29 inches

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so ah if i'm looking over there it's retina

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if i'm looking here it's not quite i guess this was one of the bigger issues

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with those older low resolution displays while you could make up some of the low

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pixel density with you know anti-aliasing or you know squinting a

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little bit if you were trying to read text and use it for actual productivity

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it was unbearable this on the other hand looks great i mean i daily drove a 1440p

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27 inch class display until not that long ago and i've always felt that that

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was my good enough point and this is better than that of course one of the

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advantages that monitors have enjoyed until recently is higher refresh rate

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support due to the superior bandwidth of displayport 1.4 versus HDMI 2.0 of

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course that changes if you've got an rtx 3000 series graphics card and an HDMI

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2.1 monitor like this one so we can jump

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all the way down to 4k 120 hertz and get that high refresh rate

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smoothness without dealing with the weird color fringing on text and fine

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details that you would get with chroma subsampling of course there's far more

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to the gaming experience than just refresh rate and that's where things get

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really interesting here now your eyes actually have a natural amount of motion

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blur so even if these pixels were flipping instantly i would still see

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this image as blurry which is why we recently got our hands on

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a high speed camera check this out

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this is this tv the c10 48 inch versus a

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360 hertz gaming monitor using a fast

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ips panel from ASUS so this is at 60 hertz to level the

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playing field 1000 frames per second

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OLED on the left ips on the right here's the start of the transition

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it is complete in three to four frames the first thing

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that happens is this leading edge dark spot actually disappears two

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three four five six seven

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eight nine ten

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was it actually done that is so much longer even on a top tier gaming ips

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another cool thing the high speed camera shows us is how displays refresh from

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top to bottom so check this out one so this is where the top one

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actually starts but you can see this one's changing bottom one's not two

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this one starts to change three

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and somehow they're all done on the OLED that is incredible next we took it up a

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notch and ran our high speed camera at 3 000 frames per second one two three

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four five six wow

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while it does take anywhere from like two to three milliseconds

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what's cool about it is that it's still

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really clean the bulk of the transition

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actually happens over like less than a millisecond

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that is really incredible okay so

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one two it's mostly done

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three four it cleans up the edges back here

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that's it we can even see the difference between the display refreshing here and

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here at this speed we can see these dots come in before the ufo starts to move

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one two

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three twenty so that's closer to like six milliseconds by the time i would say

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the image is pretty much transitioned so what's crazy is on the lcd you actually

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have a period of time where you're seeing a full double image

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that's longer than the period of time the OLED takes to completely switch the

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pixels no wonder we wanted oleds on gaming monitors ages ago

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i've been bugging lg about this for years of course that's not to say that

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OLED has every advantage when it comes to gaming these days lcd displays can go

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up to 240 or even 360 hertz and what we

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can see when we look at our 3000 frame per second footage here is that when our

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lcd is getting these much more rapid updates the motion actually does appear

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smoother even though the image might not be quite as sharp let's step all the way

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up to 360 hertz and we can see that the effect is much

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more pronounced that ends up looking smoother overall

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than this and of course there's the elephant in

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the room burning now i'm not going to try and scare you

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but i'm also not going to try and reassure you there are mitigation

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strategies that panel manufacturers are using for example shifting the pixels

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ever so suddenly running a kind of refresher on the display that helps to

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clean it up dimming static objects on the screen

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that's something that you can adjust to be more or less aggressive and of course

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just not running your display at full brightness that's like half the battle

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right there the brighter you run it the faster the pixels will degrade

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but in spite of all that you probably will experience some burn-in under some

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use case scenarios so go check out the comprehensive video that artings did on

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the subject where they actually ran a bunch of oleds for like what a year

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something like that to see how it affected them then you can make your own

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decision of course pixel response times are just one part of a smooth and

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responsive gaming experience equally or maybe even more important is

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the input lag of the display so that's how long it takes to receive the signal

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from your pc or console or whatever else and actually output it to the panel and

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for years tvs had very poor input lag compared to monitors how does this one

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stack up actually great basically it's imperceptible to me and what helps is

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that it has an auto low latency mode that detects when it's

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it feels great and it's aided by its auto low latency mode an HDMI 2.1

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feature that detects when a gaming source like an xbox or a pc is connected

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and flips it over to low latency mode of course that raises the question why

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did tvs have bad input lag in the first place wouldn't they want it to be good

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well it's because tvs do far more processing on the image than the typical

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monitor would and that's because tv manufacturers were more concerned with

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the cinematic experience than the gaming one and we did notice that flipped into

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any display mode other than game mode yeah it ain't as good

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it's a little mushier feeling for sure another benefit of an OLED tv compared

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to an lcd monitor is that you can make certain assumptions about how HDR will

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be implemented and how good the experience will be with an lcd you

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pretty much have to have multiple backlight zones in order to achieve

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with an lcd you pretty much have to have multiple backlighting zones in order to

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achieve a convincing HDR effect so with an OLED well at 4k anyway it's kind of

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like having 12 million backlighting zones of course first and

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third person games aren't the only ones that can benefit from a large immersive

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display rts players are able to take advantage

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of being able to see much more of the map at one time assuming of course that

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the game developer properly implements higher zoom levels

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and that you've got a pc that can handle that and of course that you don't mind

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actually physically turning your head in order to see the ui elements

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so okay the ergonomics of a solution like this

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they're not perfect but at least they're making progress i

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mean one thing that really stands out as in need of improvement for this one is

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lg's kind of like buttock hump that they've got coming off

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of the back of the tv lg's buttercup back here is actually the reason that

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even though my desk is deep enough i had to sit closer to the tv in order to

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reach my keyboard and mouse than the retina distance i o is another thing tvs

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have traditionally done better than monitors we've got four HDMI ports all

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of which just have a look here yep support 4k at up to 120 hertz and even

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though there was that whole scandal with lg c9s supporting 48

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gigabit per second HDMI and the c10s dropping that to 40. it looks like the

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bug that they had where there was chroma sub sampling at 4k 120 on these c10s has

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been dealt with in a patch and you're able to get 444 so that's HDR 10 bit at

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120 hertz 4k now that means that if you wanted to hook up a next-gen console as

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well as your pc you'd be able to enjoy the full 4k 120 hertz experience that

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you'll be able to get in select titles make sure you get subscribed so you

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don't miss our video where we're going to be checking out next gen xbox series

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games on the lg c10 the last question to answer then assuming that you don't mind

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the ergonomic challenges of having a tv on your desk or mounted to the wall

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behind it is one of value at around fifteen hundred us dollars it's priced

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right up there with the top tier ultra wide and large format gaming displays

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and it does have some inconveniences compared to a traditional monitor one

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being that game mode just plain ain't as color accurate as

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filmmaker mode even here on the same display so if you wanted to use it for

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something other than gaming like say for example photo or video editing you'd

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have to choose between a more responsive experience with your mouse not kind of

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feeling like it's floating around behind your ARM actions

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or having color accuracy the only question left for me to answer then is

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do i swap out the 38-inch ultra wide that's on my desk now with one of these

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i've heard the argument made that you could just take a regular 16x9 format

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display and if you want the ultrawide experience well just set a custom

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resolution and have black bars at the top on the bottom why not and especially

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with an OLED you don't get that annoying glow that you would with an lcd so

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that use case actually kind of sounds viable and the pricing is actually

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better than the monitor

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i'm gonna have to think about it

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