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you're tired of your wallet getting screwed over by greedy GPU manufacturers

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so you get mad at me for what not crying hard enough on

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your behalf that's not how this works that's not how any of this works if

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prices are out of control it's because Gamers keep paying them so if you're not

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happy do something here allow me to

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demonstrate no Bravo lius you

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patronizing Canadian you have more gpus

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than any man could hope to use in a lifetime your performative little

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boycott means nothing that's true but yours means a

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lot and you don't even have to put off your next system upgrade to do it all

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you need is a little bit of scrapyard War Spirit thanks to a combination of

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factors whether it's the GPU mining crash or pandemic Gamers who are no

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longer finding time for the hobby there's a veritable abundance of

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secondhand gpus out there so let's do

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some deal hunting shall we oh and some sponsor

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hunting I begged a paradox their hit

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forx strategy game Stellaris is free to play this weekend check it out starting

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on the 22nd on steam or at the link down below the main advantages to buying new

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are that it's fast convenient and covered by warranty in the event that

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something goes wrong so secondhand shopping is not for everyone but by

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following some simple guidelines it is a great way to save money rule number one

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if it seems too good to be true it probably is look at this a 6900 XT for

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just 300 bucks oh wait Parts only Parts

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only is just another way of saying E-Waste it is possible that with the

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soldering skills of Lewis Rossman you could Salvage it but even then it

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wouldn't be a guarantee and you are not going to be getting your money back if

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you fail so look closely at every list thing and use your common sense rule

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number two is to trust your gut if a seller gives you any indication I mean

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at all that they're sketchy bail hard

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there are plenty of other fish in the sea common examples of sketchy Behavior

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at least for in-person pickups include things like refusing to send you a

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picture of their car or what they look like to facilitate meeting up or if they

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refuse to meet in a well-lit public place and then probably the biggest red

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flag for an online transaction would be trying to move the deal off of the

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platform where it's advertised say for example eBay and then demanding payment

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UPF front now eBay does have high transaction fees so I can understand why

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even a legitimate seller might want to try to avoid paying them but the thing

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is those transaction fees are for your benefit in the form of extremely strong

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buyer protections and as soon as you send the money off platform it's

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basically up to the honor code of the individual seller to put your order in

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the mail so so um good luck with that

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which isn't to say that you have to buy on eBay in fact the best deal that we

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Tracked Down was on a classified site Facebook Marketplace to be exact and

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we're on our way there right now though I realize I've gotten ahead of myself a

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little bit here first we need to decide what to buy with current gpus it's

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pretty easy because recent reviews will contain performance numbers across a

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wide range of games the 6700 XT for example looks really good in our recent

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coverage of the 4060 TI where it gets tricky is comparing across Generations

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very few reviews of the 4070 for example include comparison numbers for the

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2080ti even though these cards perform within about 20% of each other I mean I

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get it Publications can't be expected to test cards forever but waiting through

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garbage results from user Benchmark and fluff pieces like this one with no

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actual testing can be a challenge when secondhand Shoppers or upgraders are

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looking to understand how much benefit they'll get from the latest shiny now

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Our intention is to solve this in the long term with the upcoming lab's

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website but that's going to take us some time for now we can bridge the gap by

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comparing each new generation to the last so we can see the 470 is pretty

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close to the 3080 then we compare the 3080 to the 2080 TI but at its best this

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is an inexact science even if we have the KN how to find reputable sites with

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consistent test methodologies so I'm going to do the work for you for

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enthusiast Gamers the deal to beat right now is a secondhand 3080 10 gig it's got

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enough GPU Grunt and vram for the latest titles it supports most of NVIDIA's

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latest AI Tom Foolery and it can be had for around $400 or even less if you're

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patient then there's the 3070 this is a really solid runner up if you don't need

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the performance of the 380 and obviously

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if you can score a sweet deal on a 12 gig 380 or a 380 TI well then that's

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great too but I didn't really see anything that caught my eye dropping

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down to the 3060 range we do save some

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money but you're not getting the same kind of bang for the buck I really want

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to see these going from more like $220 to

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$230 and if we go back a generation the

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RTX 2080 TI is still a very capable card

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it just seems like sellers are kind of deluded as to what these things are

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worth I found one attractive deal but

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most of them were well over $300 come on

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guys I know your GPU is only two

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generations old but it came out nearly 5

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years ago which means that even if we ignore downsides like much worse rate

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tracing performance and extra power draw it's a lot closer to losing driver

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support than a 30 series would be with that said if I was on a bit of a tighter

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budget I would say that the 20 Series has some very attractive Bargains namely

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the 2070 super and the 2080 or there's

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the rx5700 XT from team red all of those

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can be had in the $150 to $200 price range if you're patient speaking of AMD

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normally team red cards are great fodder for secondhand shoppers but that just

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doesn't seem to be the case at the moment if I had to guess I'd say It's a

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combination of two things one they aren't as popular so there aren't as

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many flooding the market right now and two AMD has implemented some serious

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price drops recently that don't seem to really be reflected in the used Market

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on the lower end look at these prices for 6650 XTS it literally costs more

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than just buying a brand new one and then on the high end look at this 6800

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just under $500 brand new I mean sure it

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could be had for about $100 less used

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but the new one is new and it comes with a game bundle that's kind of a

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no-brainer to me we're going to have some Choice AMD cards linked down below

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if you must have a brand new card with a warranty on that subject I've got a

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great Pro tip for you Savvy shoppers out there pretty much every RTX 380 comes

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with a 3-year warranty and since the 3080 came out less than 3 years ago as

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long as the seller gives you the original receipt you should still be

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covered by the manufacturer warranty now some of them are going to try to weasle

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out of it oh only applies to the original buyer but if you want my advice

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don't give them a chance just submit your support ticket with whatever name's

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on the invoice how can they prove my name isn't gab Ben mcloven ship the

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replacement to my new address then please got it now there are a couple of

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things that I forgot to mention earlier some cards are going to come with

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accessories that you will want to make sure are included for example this

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12-pin power adapter is needed to connect a 30 series card to an older

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power supply oh wait this card doesn't have a 12 pin well if you buy a Founders

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Edition you are going to need the adapter oh right and we actually saw a

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3080 TI that was only a little bit more than this 3080 the only reason we didn't

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jump on it was because I felt it wasn't really representative of the kind of

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deals that you guys could expect to find and it's a good thing we skipped it

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because we just came across this post warning other users about that scammer

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this is a really common move where people will ask for a deposit to hold

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the card and then just keep your money and ghost you never pay a deposit only

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exchange money once you have the item in your hands in the old days I would even

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take it a step further I would ask sellers if they could put the card in a

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working system so that I could see it in action or even let me bring my own test

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bench and hook it up to that but that's not always possible and I'm a lot less

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worried about a card that I still have warranty on for a full year time for the

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Moment of Truth I've talked a pretty good game so far but is this actually

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faster than what I could have gotten brand new to find out we're going to be

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drag racing it against the brand new 46ti in returnal f-122 and Far Cry 6

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using our new and improved workflow with

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our automated mark bench software

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ooh well that's not the uh smoothest fan

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I've ever encountered she's a little on the loud side boys and we're going to

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have harnesses for games that don't support in-game benchmarking like uh

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flight Sim soon right yeah sick test

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parameter uh games for 1080 this is a

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3080 sir this yes but this is also pathetic card oh right and then do I

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need a tag for it 380 maybe no no it automatically uh saves that data when it

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pulls it up sick okay now I get to drag race them yeah you can just hit run

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select it and then go at it 3 two one oh

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that I clicked that one a little later don't worry not thrilled about that crusty fan but

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while we were on our break I found out that replacement fans are a lot easier

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to get your hands on these days than they used to be like they're in the neighborhood of 10 15 20 bucks

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wow that is not even close uh see you

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later 46 DTI sure I've got to replace

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this fan but guys I am 20 plus% faster

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at 1080P and that performance Gap only

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widens as I increase the resolution that I'm gaming at or as I run games that

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have heavier demands on my vram so I'm freaking thrilled I won the game oh and

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