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you coming to the end of this video how how'd you get here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":398.28,"end_s":402.919,"text":"thanks for watching like the video if you liked it dislike it if you disliked","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":401.479,"end_s":406.68,"text":"it check out our other videos comment below with video suggestions and don't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":404.479,"end_s":412.919,"text":"forget to subscribe and follow what your favorite flavor of RGB spaghetti is um","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":410.16,"end_s":412.919,"text":"there's lots","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"motherboard manufacturers are trying to solve possibly the most annoying thing about building a PC Cable Management three of the largest companies that crank out motherboards ASUS MSI and Gigabyte all now offer boards that place most internal connectors on the back of the PCB with the idea being to let you build a PC with few to no cables showing but hold on a sec why exactly did it take so long for these companies to bring this to Market I mean the first American p was filed back in 2011 the answer is not only that there wasn't yet broad support from Hardware manufacturers but also that the priorities of the PCI DIY Community weren't quite the same as they are now let's start by talking about those priorities it really wasn't all that long ago that building or just buying a PC was primarily a means to an end you wanted to accomplish something specific on a PC play a game make a video call rederive calculus whatever so you built something in an opaque beige box that could accomplish that task and there was a good chance you didn't care too much about how it looked but as the years went on laptops tablets and smartphones became able to handle more and more functions that used to be the sole domain of desktop PCS meaning that a larger proportion of the remaining desktop PC Community was made up of enthusiasts who cared more than the average person about not just how their PC performed but how it looked during that time PC Aesthetics evolved gradually cases with Windows didn't start becoming common until the early to mid 2000s we didn't see Cable Management grommets until around 2010 and RGB didn't hit it big until the mid 2010s and of course modern social media platforms that allow Hardware manufacturers to easily get the pulse of the community haven't been around for very long but since they took off it's been clear from social media feedback that Aesthetics have only increased in importance for p PC enthusiasts we haven't proved that RGB makes things faster yet but we'll get there and there's an additional benefit aside from Aesthetics connectors on the rear mean that you won't have to worry about negotiating your way into tight spaces created by other components once you're ready to connect your cables the 8 Pin EPS connector is notoriously tricky manufacturers are hoping that not only will rear connectors look better but they'll also serve as a more builder friendly option to those folks who are interested in pcdiy but intimidated about taking the plunge and there are more of those people out there than you might think so that brings us to actually getting this idea to Market how did we get there although main gear filed a patent for the rear connector Concept in 2011 which other companies now license it wasn't until 2019 that ASUS showed us a rear motherboard connector on their concept Prime Utopia board Gigabyte then became the first major motherboard brand to bring a rear connector motherboard to Market in 2022 with project stealth followed by MSI's project zero in 2023 and ASUS's BTF in 2024 and since the primary concern here is Aesthetics some boards also include shrouds that hide the unsightly solder marks that are now on the front of the board but hold everything how the heck does this work considering that most cases don't have the correct holes in the motherboard tray to plug in cables at the back well we'll tell you right after we thank circuit specialists for sponsoring this video circuit specialists provides tools and supplies to the stem community at competitive prices explore their wide range of offerings including resistors capacitors soldering stations oscilloscopes and more things with cool names leveraging their technology and sourcing expertise their goal is to give customers access to tools and parts that may otherwise be unavailable or too expensive their commitment to Quality ensures that you receive reliable and High Performance Products suited for your needs let circuit specialists help you upgrade your electronics toolkit let let them help you check them out at the link below and use code LMG for 10% off unsurprisingly you're going to need a new compatible case for these new motherboards to work Gigabyte collaborated with main gear to make a case for its project stealth products while MSI and ASUS both make their own cases now and also collaborate with outside case manufacturers in order to ensure you can actually hide all your cables without having to take a Dremel to your existing case unless you want to then that that I mean it's fun and in case you were wondering why these manufacturers can't just design the motherboard so the rear connectors poke out of the existing cutouts for CPU coolers there are just too many electronics already in that area for such a solution to be practical although the current lack of an open standard for rear connectors means you'll have to ensure that the case you want is specifically compatible with the particular motherboard brand you want this may not end up mattering too much in the long term lots of niceties that we're used to such as right angled SATA connectors top mounted radio radiators and the various RGB ecosystems don't have official standards defining them but they enjoy widespread support and interoperability so if rear connectors end up being in high demand from consumers you can bet that there will be plenty of compatible boards and cases to choose from but a possible wrinkle is how to handle the pesky fact that most graphics cards require extra power cables that connect to the top of the card oh no for now limited solution ions exist Gigabyte sells special cards that feature a connector on the bottom closer to the PCI Express contacts while ASUS sells cards with an extra smaller set of contacts for power that work with compatible ASUS motherboards while this limits which graphics cards you can use to get that totally clean look inside your case the hope is that more cards will adopt Solutions such as these as time goes on and the fact that ASUS Gigabyte and MSI also all manufactur graphics cards and cases means they also have the ability to push these rear connector ecosystems forward even if a particular outside company isn't interested but is any of this really a good idea well other than a small amount of increased cost to begin with due to these companies having to tweak their manufacturing slightly there aren't really any major drawbacks to rear mounting connectors but even with these benefits only time will tell if this new connector Paradigm will emerge as a widespread alternative to traditional cable routing and I know how much some of you like seeing that sweet RGB spaghetti every time you fire up your rig so we'll have to see and you know what I like to see is you coming to the end of this video how how'd you get here thanks for watching like the video if you liked it dislike it if you disliked it check out our other videos comment below with video suggestions and don't forget to subscribe and follow what your favorite flavor of RGB spaghetti is um there's lots"}