1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:09,719 yes I'm free gone are my sponsor 2 00:00:07,439 --> 00:00:16,320 obligations to Qualcomm about their new Snapdragon X Elite chips I can say 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:20,800 everything I want and guys following our 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:24,640 lab running their most rigorous tests ho 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:27,199 what I want to say is damn these 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:31,920 processors are really good we got our hands on two of the machines that are 7 00:00:29,119 --> 00:00:37,320 supposed to de thrown AMD and Intel with performance and efficiency that is 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,920 unheard of in a Windows laptop and while 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,719 they might not live up to every single one of qualcomm's very bold claims 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:49,640 there's no denying both the sheer efficiency and the shocking day one 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:54,520 completeness of the entire package kind of like this complete intro now that 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:57,680 I've done the segue to our sponsor Odo running a business is difficult 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,719 especially if you're jumping from app to app just to complete one transaction 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:06,000 with odu's all-in-one software you can save both time and money by streamlining 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,680 your processes click the link below to learn more let's kick this off with a 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:14,920 fun little anecdote that qualcomm's lawyers cut from our sponsored video for 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,920 some reason nearly 12 years ago I had my 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:22,040 first hands-on experience with Windows on ARM it could browse the web with 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:28,159 Internet Explorer navigate with Bing Maps and even play video to say we've 20 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:32,520 come a long way would be a gross understatement you were looking at 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:37,680 balers Gate 3 running on an AMD powered system and on a Qualcomm system and 22 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:42,799 shockingly the results are nearly identical so of course the first big 23 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:46,560 story here is performance the conventional wisdom about ARM-based 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:51,360 processors is that they are extremely power efficient but that they fall 25 00:01:48,479 --> 00:01:56,479 behind x86 chips when it comes to Raw grunt well a few years ago that all fell 26 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:00,759 apart when a little known fruit company out of copertino launched a processor 27 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:06,240 that made even hardcore Windows users here in our office consider making the 28 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,880 switch it was a huge blow to Microsoft 29 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:13,520 and their Partners who were caught with absolutely zero response to the Wombo 30 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:20,040 Combo of class leading performance and unheard of battery life that is until 31 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,840 now cuz Windows just had its M moment 32 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:28,400 but no really like literally the man in charge of Apple's a architecture and 33 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,720 presumably much of M was Gerard Williams 34 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:35,480 and after the fun design Des phase of the M processors was over Gerard and a 35 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:40,120 couple of others left to form a company called nuvia to make their own ARM 36 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:47,040 server processors which was a pretty good idea but then Qualcomm showed up 37 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:49,840 and offered them a cool 1.4 billion to 38 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,640 Pivot and build a mobile chip and a couple of years later why don't we let 39 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:59,599 the battery life results tell you how that went our ASUS Vivo book S15 lasted 40 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:05,680 over 14 hours away from the wall with our HP Omni book X able to crack 15 41 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:08,920 hours now you might be gearing up to get very mad about how that is absolutely 42 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:13,159 nowhere near the numbers that Qualcomm advertised but you've got to remember 43 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:19,000 that's in their tests and this is in ours and for context a MacBook Pro M3 44 00:03:16,599 --> 00:03:23,799 that we bought just this week with zero battery degradation managed only 12 45 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:28,280 hours and 30 minutes in our test with the rest of our laptops getting left in 46 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:33,120 the dust which brings us to a big question how much a performance hit are 47 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:37,959 you willing to accept to get that kind of battery life it's not like Windows on 48 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,319 ARM is new and there's a reason that it 49 00:03:37,959 --> 00:03:45,319 never got adopted well what if I told you that things are different now and 50 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:48,080 the performance hit is virtually zero 51 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:53,360 along with our MacBook Pro M3 we also tested a more price comparable MacBook 52 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:55,319 Air M2 and then representing x86 we've 53 00:03:53,360 --> 00:04:00,120 got an ASUS Zenbook with an Intel Core Ultra 7 and we've got a framework 13 54 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:05,760 investment in framework disclosure with an AMD ryzen 7 all of them linked down 55 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,920 below now we do wish that we had a more 56 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:11,159 current ryzen 8000 chip but those are 57 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:15,319 basically the same thing as ryzen 7000 but with some more AI bolted on but then 58 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:19,000 not enough AI to meet the minimum specs of Microsoft's co-pilot plus program so 59 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:23,960 we think from a performance and battery life standpoint using 7,000 series here 60 00:04:21,239 --> 00:04:27,840 is fine in multicore workloads running an application natively the Snapdragon X 61 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Elite was able to beat literally everything we put it up against even 62 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Apple's M3 it's not a completely clean win I mean the Snapdragon chips have 12 63 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:41,199 CPU cores in them versus just the eight in Apple's M3 so that's going to be an 64 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:45,560 obvious advantage in multi-threaded benchmarks and when we look at single 65 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:50,680 core performance apple is actually still in the lead with Qualcomm barely besting 66 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Intel and AMD but you've got to note that it's possible Qualcomm still has 67 00:04:52,639 --> 00:05:00,080 more in the single core tank currently we've only got laptops with the X Elite 68 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:04,440 x1e 78- 100 chip going to hold back ranting 69 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:08,080 about how horrible that naming scheme is for now but the important thing to take 70 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:13,039 away from here is that this is the slowest variant of the ex Elite chip 71 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:18,639 which entirely lacks dual core boosting and has the lowest multi-core speed so 72 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:23,199 instead of being stuck at 3.4 GHz the faster ex Elite could go to 4.2 which 73 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:27,560 presumably would perform a fair bit better with that said it's currently 74 00:05:25,479 --> 00:05:31,240 very difficult to get reliable clock speed and power info from these chips so 75 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,720 we just got to kind of guess what exactly is going on under the hood what 76 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,880 we do know though is that we have multiple performance profiles on the 77 00:05:36,479 --> 00:05:44,440 ASUS viab book S15 and we tested everything at both 35 watts and 50 Watts 78 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:48,840 with multicore performance and cinch increasing by 79 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,240 177% for that 43% increase in power 80 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:56,440 meaning that although more power does mean they can go more faster there are 81 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:01,240 certainly diminishing returns after 35 Watts but of course this is workload 82 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:05,319 dependent and that's why handbrake is so interesting in this Benchmark the 83 00:06:03,319 --> 00:06:12,120 Snapdragon X Elite once again comes out on top in both x264 and av1 encoding 84 00:06:09,599 --> 00:06:16,599 which is great but doesn't paint the whole picture for that we need to take 85 00:06:14,599 --> 00:06:23,880 advantage of the fact that handbrake is available in both ARM native and x86 64 86 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:30,440 versions this allows us to look at the performance hit from emulating a more 87 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:35,400 traditional laptop architecture and ooh 88 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:37,800 40% in both x264 and av1 that is a lot 89 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:43,199 more than the 10% figure that qualcom was throwing around and the same goes 90 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:48,680 for blender where x86-64 emulation caused a 26% hit to Performance with 91 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:52,440 that said though even with that performance penalty the Snapdragon X 92 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:56,319 Elite was still able to hang with the competition while leading the way when 93 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,440 we were running it natively unfortunately that's kind of the end of 94 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:04,240 our productivity benchmark not because there aren't plenty of other pieces of 95 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:11,520 software that ran but because getting them to run across all of our platforms 96 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:13,560 under test in a repeatable manner was 97 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:18,520 kind of difficult to say the least with that said in general our experience with 98 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:24,319 qualcomm's x86 emulation has been largely okay I hate using this F word 99 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,599 but has been largely Flawless the 100 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:31,840 occasional installer would get mad but once installed we had almost no problems 101 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:36,280 running even some kind of unexpected and heavy programs like solid works there 102 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:41,400 are two situations though where you can get caught out if an application 103 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:46,800 requires avx2 support it simply won't open or if a game has kernel level 104 00:07:44,159 --> 00:07:52,319 anti-che which brings us perfectly then to gaming now the raw performance of the 105 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Snapdragon chips very impressive rivaling both AMD and Intel's integrated 106 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:02,080 Graphics when it works ah yes that's the 107 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:07,199 caveat because sometimes he know work he's so good things do seem very early 108 00:08:05,159 --> 00:08:11,879 days with some games running wonderfully and some being a bit janky with others 109 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:17,759 just not launching at all because for whatever reason qualcomm's igpu shows up 110 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,319 as having no vram that's a strange one 111 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:25,000 one thing that's promising though is that there doesn't seem to be a performance penalty going from direct 112 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:30,039 X11 to direct X12 something that's been a huge thorn in Intel side with the 113 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:34,519 development of their Arc Alchemist gpus now given that Intel has spent the last 114 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:38,479 2 years getting their driver situation somewhat figured out for Arc it's 115 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:44,560 probably going to be quite some time before we can recommend a Snapdragon X 116 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Elite chip for gaming but if I get my 117 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,399 way the end goal here will be to have a proper dedicated GPU in these things 118 00:08:48,519 --> 00:08:57,360 anyway so that we can have our battery life cake and also eat our gaming pie 119 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:02,399 finally let's talk about AI Microsoft Qualcomm even your nan realist L won't 120 00:09:00,079 --> 00:09:06,880 shut up lately about how AI is going to revolutionize how you use your computer 121 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:11,720 but after a week of playing with these machines 122 00:09:08,839 --> 00:09:17,480 this is the number of times that we used AI outside of explicitly testing it for 123 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:20,360 this video the auto presence detection 124 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:24,079 legitimately kind of cool but can also end up being a bit distracting so we 125 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:28,760 ended up disabling it the paint co-creator probably isn't going to be 126 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:34,079 much fun if you're older than about 10 and the we were most excited for live 127 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:38,560 captions with translation didn't really live up to our expectations in our 128 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:43,880 testing it did a passable enough job going from Mandarin to English but it 129 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,279 completely failed Cantonese French and 130 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Hebrew so you might just want to stick to a good old Google translate at least 131 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:56,800 for the time being also Microsoft's controversial recall feature is 132 00:09:54,240 --> 00:10:00,959 completely absent at this point which is probably great because Microsoft clearly 133 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,880 has a lot of trust to build with the community before they're going to allow 134 00:10:02,839 --> 00:10:08,240 them to screenshot and key log everything they do on their computers 135 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:12,040 the good news is that the benefits of this platform are about more than just 136 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:16,920 co-pilot plus and one that I don't think enough people are talking about is the 137 00:10:14,079 --> 00:10:22,360 image quality advantage of the webcams on Snapdragon X Elite laptops this isn't 138 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:27,399 just down to laptop manufacturers using crappy webcams in their AMD and Intel 139 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:32,640 designs though it's because qualcomm's s so includes a dedicated ated image 140 00:10:29,959 --> 00:10:37,279 signal processor that's built right in that conveniently allows laptop 141 00:10:35,079 --> 00:10:43,240 manufacturers to use much better smartphone targeted cameras that's why 142 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:46,399 it looks so much better overall though 143 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,680 AI aside guys this is an incredibly 144 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:52,920 strong start for Qualcomm Snapdragon X processors we didn't get to test 145 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:57,320 everything so hit like if you guys want to see Alex and I switched to these 146 00:10:54,519 --> 00:11:01,680 laptops full-time for a month yeah a month but after our initial test the 147 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:06,760 performance is good enough and the battery life makes every 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