{"video_id":"w4EEwEZ-2Qk","title":"How far will Intel GO? - 11th-gen Core Review","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2021-05-05T14:53:29Z","duration_s":666,"segments":[{"start_s":25.6,"end_s":31.84,"text":"14 nanometers lives","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":28.88,"end_s":36.399,"text":"it's better faster stronger than ever before","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":34.32,"end_s":39.68,"text":"just like our sponsor honey is the free to use browser extension that helps you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":38.079,"end_s":45.84,"text":"find some of the best promo codes on over 30 000 sites get it today at","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":41.76,"end_s":45.84,"text":"joinhoney.com LTT","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":53.039,"end_s":60.32,"text":"yeah yeah nanometers aren't an accurate measure of anything i know","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":57.36,"end_s":65.6,"text":"but this process is old and 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eight percent lower average FPS than ryzen 9 while the core i5 sees significantly better minimum frame rates than ryzen 5. gta 5 has the core i9 pulling ahead of the 5900x by 5 or more in minimum frames while the core i5 again pulls off a 13 or so lead over ryzen 5's minimums f1 2020's absurd frame rates reveal the generational improvements Intel's managed here for the core i5 the core i9 appears roughly in line with 10th gen thanks to fewer threads and lower base clocks fort surprise and 4 has Intel trading blows with AMD with better minimums and worse averages on both new cpus while turn times in civilization 6 are about half a second or so faster on 11th gen flight sim 2020 has both cpus ahead of last gen but falling short of AMD and all but the minimum frame rates cs go is another bloodbath where AMD's zen 3 architecture firmly curb stomps rocket lake perhaps thanks to the gigantic amount of shared cash ryzen enjoys although it's worth pointing out that every CPU here is already in overkill territory moving on to productivity Intel's single threaded cinebench scores are much better than last gen and higher than amds but not by a huge amount while puget bench for creative cloud shows that even lightly threaded workloads like photoshop can still favor AMD again likely thanks to the extra cash it's not a big l though that comes from blender the core i5 falls behind by 10 in gooseberry while the core i9 because of stock turbo is a staggering 40 percent slower than ryzen in the same test corona benchmark being much shorter puts the core i5 much closer to ryzen 5 and the same goes for v-ray a test that only lasts about a minute pov ray has Intel very close to AMD and single threaded performance while the core i9 continues to struggle spec's workstation is mostly another pain point for Intel but some tests again favoring the 10th gen core i9 thanks to its additional cores and threads even the core i5 struggles with 10 to 14 lower aggregate scores than AMD across the life sciences financial services and energy segments of the test not looking great so far at least not for the core i9 but now we need to talk about power and thermals and we're going to talk a lot because if you recall comet lake was better than coffee lake for thermals but only because Intel busted out all the tricks of the trade to make it happen and now despite having two fewer cores all early reports had rocket lake pegged at basically being a flamethrower in addition to the performance concerns relative to AMD at stock both our core i9 and core i5 manage thermals that are reasonable thanks in large part to strictly conforming to Intel's rated 125 watt TDP once turbo expires they do draw much higher power than last gen to hit their peak all-core turbo speeds but in the core i9s case Intel's new adaptive boost technology impressively allows the cores to run 300 megahertz higher all core than it's rated for this new behavior is similar to AMD's precision boost 2 opportunistically increasing all core clocks within thermal and power limits but Intel's is still constrained by their finite turbo period of 56 seconds by default upon disabling this turbo limit using our motherboard's multi-core enhancement feature the core i9 draws a staggering 275 watts peak with 260 watts sustained from the socket that is nearly double the ryzen 9's power draw and around 40 percent more than 10th gens we did get about a 19 faster render time than stock but even with our Noctua nhd15s the i9 instantly hits 80 degrees and creeps up to the mid-90s throughout the run bizarrely though the core i5 manages better thermals and power draw with multi-core enhancement compared to its own stock turbo thanks to a lower core voltage provided by the motherboard these results however were for avx-2 Intel added the avx-512 instruction set and machine learning extensions to rocket lake and they're leaning heavily on them in marketing we don't have any benchmarks for that right now but we can do a quick stress test with prime95 where at stock we've got ok thermals again for our core i9 but our core i5 hits the 100 degree mark thanks to a higher turbo speed before settling into the mid 60s and 70s power consumption roughly matches the non-avx-512 testing and unsurprisingly both cpus dropped straight to base clock after the turbo window expired it's when we removed the limits again that no no Intel are you okay the core i9 can draw over 290 watts at peak the core i5 once again draws less power thanks to the motherboard svid control but both cpus still run toasty enough that our dual tower cooler can just barely handle it we are really at the limits of what Intel's reheated 14 nanometer process can do here thankfully you won't have to reheat your drink for up to 8 hours with a water bottle from ltdstore.com but even without avx-512 you have to ask why is 11th gen so hot with fewer cores than last gen aside from abx-512 taking up a huge amount of die space it was originally built for 10 nanometers that's right Intel had to back port this thing and that's why we got this really strange looking product stack no fewer than 10 eight core cpus across core i7 and core i9 nine six core cpus in the core i5 line and everything else is just a comet like refresh no rocket like core i3s or pentiums this time around without being able to rely on core counts to cleanly distinguish between skus the differences are so minor in practice that they're going to make most people think twice about spending an extra 140 dollars for a core i9 when a core i7 is almost as good or when AMD is a better performer for the money granted core i9s get thermal velocity boost and adaptive boost technology but you can mimic that by enabling multi-core enhancement if your motherboard has it or by maxing out the power limits manually in Intel xtu if it doesn't all 11th gen core desktop cpus that we know about have the same cache per core and the same improved graphics core with expanded video decode capabilities on skus that include them what's more they all have an extra 4 pci express gen 4 lanes on the CPU now for NVMe storage like AMD does it gets subscribed by the way because even within the same model not all NVMe ssds are created equal and we're calling out the worst offender now there is the issue of gear one mode support tldr it's just like running infinity fabric in one to one mode with memory speed on ryzen for better performance the cry9 11900k and kf are supposed to be the only ones that handle ddr4 3200 memory this way but from our testing the core i5 11600k can too it's just not the default and it'll go even higher than that it looks like the core i9's main draw will be in pre-built pcs that don't expose these options if the core i7 11700k is as gamer's next has put it a waste of sand the whole core i9 lineup on paper is even worse especially the k-sku that's just priced 10 less than ryzen 9. thankfully you don't need to buy a high-end motherboard to use faster memory now so that's one savings that's no longer exclusive to team red but that doesn't save the core i9 in games matching ryzen's performance is a best case scenario where even the ryzen 5 at times comes close granted it may not make or break your gameplay but the value is just not there for work unless you can use avx-512 the extra oomph from ryzen 9's 12 cores means Intel is not going to be your first choice this generation in that domain either the real star of the show is the core i5 it's only about two to six percent slower than the ryzen 5 at stock across our testing but it costs thirty dollars less at retail even better for Intel availability troubles means the eleven six hundred k is a hundred dollars cheaper than ryzen 5 street price making it a no-brainer as long as Intel has the chips to sell bonus if you don't overclock you'll lose very little by getting a cheaper non-case skew and turning on multi-core enhancement to offset the difference in base clock just make sure you get a cooler that can handle it if you're worried about upgradability ddr5's impending arrival means both teams sockets have an expiration date at this point so you lose nothing either way if you need a new CPU today or you lose everything depending on how you think about it you know glass half empty half full it might be rough going for Intel for a while longer but it looks like things are improving a week ago their ceo pat gelsinger announced a renewed focus on fabrication and process technology including a seven nanometer tile process that will hopefully power meteor lake to generations from now we've heard this kind of promise from Intel before so time will tell for now just buy a core i5 or AMD when the scalpers have finished scalping but if Linus won't scalp you for sponsor segways i won't either get the best prices and best selection on computer hardware and everything else technology at any of microcenter's 25 locations across the united states check out the 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