and uh here we go
are we live uh theoretically yes hey
and we need like a minus tron logo hold on a
second hold on i'm working on it i'm just getting that getting that centered uh get that cable
kind of oh yeah that's just i don't think i'm happy everything works but
this doesn't look good yeah i know i know we're working on it okay
so it's official
pretty much everything about
the WAN Show set up here has been overhauled at this point there
are still a couple of things that we could do to improve it in fact i have a
bunch of them listed out in my WAN Show improvement ideas list here oh wow um
hold on hold on hold on where'd it go oh maybe i deleted it this is a long list
no no not all of it is list in fact maybe none of it is list uh um
here we go we could put padding on the table okay so we wouldn't get as much audio
reflection off the table yeah we could put clouds above the set yep like
dampening clouds um we could have rolling sheets of acoustic
batting kind of around the camera on the other side he means like on wheels so we can
push them around yeah yeah uh not like rolling thunder yeah you know like um
um actually everything else here that's on
my list we have already done it what thunder goes wow
like dubstep thunder look i don't um
i don't make the rules about how thunder gets impersonated or impressioned um
either way so people are already asking about the
casey tron thing oh okay well that's a perfect absolutely
perfect first topic for the WAN Show today yeah so we should probably explain
like what was happening hold on a second is is that even one of
our no how do i even spell k-a-y yeah okay that's not one of our
topics for the week so we don't have a source for this but before the when
shows started they didn't do anything wrong no no i mean yeah no no it's not
yeah it's a just our our uh doc preparation team wouldn't have known
anything about this so before the show started
our channel was hosting caseytron yeah
for some reason maybe you could explain why our channel would have been hosting
caseytron so i noticed this with my uh
anyways twitch is doing this thing where there's auto hosting you can have it so
that when you're not streaming we should explain for people who only really watch
WAN Show on twitch what exactly hosting means first yeah no i'm getting into
that oh okay so auto hosting the idea of auto hosting is that it will
automatically host other channels hosting is where it will show the video
feed of another channel on your channel when you are offline so the idea behind
it is that if you were like super bros with someone then you could set your
channel to host their channel so that
when you're not streaming they get additional viewers who happen to be on
your channel it can make a lot of sense especially for groups like nerd fusion
if one of the guys at nerdfusion is not currently streaming they can host
another one of their buddies they're all a big team that are trying to help each
other grow that is very good for that people like kyle and paul
post each other that makes tons of sense they collab all the freaking time yep um
people that want to help each other can do that or your channel could do that
just to try to keep your audience engaged if you have people that stream
in very similar styles to you that's kind of what it's supposed to be for and
auto hosting is a way to handle all of
that and do all of that with you without you having to go like into your chat and
going slash host space channel name you
can just set up a group of people that you want to auto host and we'll do that
just automatically now twitch changed
something where it went into originally all of these settings were off by
default and you had to like you had to manually host things it was an opt-in
you had to manually use things then when they came up with auto hosting you had
to go put in the channels that you wanted to auto host and then twitch was
just like well we want this to happen because i just want to jump in and uh like
i don't know a tenth of the messages in chat are people setting up auto hosting
for us nice so you guys are cool you guys are broke carry on um so and like it's
actually really cool the idea of auto hosting yeah but when like you set it up
it's really cool uh for like your
friends who might have content styles that you consider to be you know
appropriate and like related related cool for your audience i
mean for example our channel is not
flagged as a mature audience's only channel
yeah so we probably shouldn't host ones that are mature audiences only and like
so our what twitch did is they made it so that everyone was auto hosting random
pools of people so our channel was auto
hosting casey tron right before the show everyone showed up because rancho is
supposed to happen we're late as per usual but not like hey we were not that
late we were late we were like seven minutes late which is actually a lot
better than normal yes yes but we were still a little late so and people often
show up early either way so people are here waiting for wan and then casey
tron's there and it's like what's going on and then she went on the forum and
then apparently she confused RAM and CPU or something i don't know i read
something about that in the chat i don't want to directly quote that i don't i
didn't listen to it i didn't see it i didn't hear it um so yeah anyways our auto hosting has
been turned off yes sir and ma'am and everything in between yep and
let's roll the intro we're moving on
i
really yeah oh yeah
oh well that's cool yeah when did that happen
but today well like the business deal yeah i don't
know i have no idea but they're they're one of the sponsors of the lan show today
yeah oh like actually yeah that wasn't a
mistake cool okay so um you know what i guess probably the
best thing for us to do right now we're going to have a full like upgrade vlog
style video of all the improvements most of which you can't see right now the
whole chat is like oh my god intro had sound
but we have made a lot of improvements
to the show i'm just going to show you guys uh some of the stuff we've done so
check out the desk now it's like okay it doesn't look that tidy but
trust me trust me it's like pretty tidy like this
is just our laptop power adapters that are going into um this this power
splitter here so it's actually completely tidy other than like luke's
laptop the HDMI cables that we each have
because we can both screen share now the 10 keyless keyboard that Corsair hooked
us up with so i have a little bit more space for the keyboard mouse and laptop
here also you might notice none of the audio
gear is there because it has all moved
to the badass go around the monitor uh yeah hold on i got it
it has all moved to the badass retro server cabinet
so um none of this would have happened oh oh i
forgot i forgot like the most important piece the wancho pc
we made it great again oh how RGB is that my friends
how RGB on a scale of one to RGB well
six is the WAN Show pc no there's six RGB okay there are six RGB fans thank
you for that luke but i also have an RGB mouse and RGB keyboard hooked up to it
is that RGB keyboard yeah it's an RGB keyboard it looks like a red i just
don't have it configured right now but it's definitely RGB in its heart okay
and it's hard that's that's all they ask um so none of that
would have happened without Corsair hooking us up without um focusrite
hooking us up with all the new audio gear without epiphan hooking us up with
see check this out do you have anything incriminating on
your screen do you okay so we can do Linus's screen we can do
luke screen boom uh also you're you're in extend mode right now anyway so
um yep you sure are oh
uh so we got all that stuff we've got a better WAN Show streaming pc than ever
before it's got 64 gigs of RAM now six core processor there we go uh NVMe SSD
boot drive it's like dank af cool super
dank i saw like it i don't know if they can see there's like the old wan [ __ ] no
they can't see no they can't see the old WAN Show pc with like
the RAM and heatsink just strewn on top of it hanging out they're just chilling
they're just chilling over there see there they are bye-bye
peace old wednesday pc rest in pieces
all that you know yeah so uh so i'm super stoked um moved on we have i
believe and i don't want to jinx it but other than our hideous table
we have completely moved on to the point where we shouldn't have any issues
anymore should we tell the story of the table
sure why we have such an ugly t brandon wanted me to change the table
do you support brandon's initiative to change the table i don't think so
i like keeping the table so who was the first person
to work at Linus media group and use this table me
and why are there like
acid etched marks through the paint you
might have to show them okay okay we're bringing back the webcam yeah also we
have a webcam now that's all that's going to always be here just as like a
way for us to just show random stuff i mean obviously it's not like
color corrected or anything but you see the entire like
edge of the table here it's like you can see like the main bad
spots like here and over there yeah yeah so that was
that's all burning from like my wrists
from working so long this is the table that the original titan videos all came
out of that which is like one of the most ridiculous pieces of work i've like literally ever
done yeah good old original type uh yeah
this this was my desk for a very long time and the paint's like thin and it's
isn't it an ikea desk it's so so the story goes even further back the origin
story was that um we were starting up um
Linus media group and we had no money
like like for us budgeting for a gallon of paint to paint
the walls in the garage was like a significant line item in our startup
costs yeah um so one of my old
co-workers at ncix his aunt or something
was getting rid of some ikea furniture and i kind of went uh ikea furniture has
kind of that stigma and then he's like no no it's old ikea furniture it's the
good stuff so this thing is like bomb build like it has a metal frame
under the incredibly heavy table top like it's
still some kind of a composite but it's not
like have you guys ever cut a part it's not like an ikea desk yeah yeah they
have like corrugated cardboard inside them yeah i mean they're light yeah and
they're actually very strong and this is not an ikea sales pitch but like it's a
pretty cool technology you know we save materials and all that
but like they light up like crazy they weren't built like they're not built
like this thing that's good for fire resistance so what we did was i got
again it was a significant investment at the time but i got a spray bomb of like
kind of textured speckled paint with the idea being that this table can pull
double duty because it was oh it was incredibly ugly when we got it i think
this beige color is the actual table top colors like an off-white it's awful so i
was like this table can pull double duty we'll we'll run our benchmarks with the
test benches on it and then we can also use this cool texture with this fancy
paint i spent an extra three dollars on to do like b-roll glam footage on it
so now we've obviously moved on from that but the table still holds a special
place in my heart it's one of the first things Linus media group ever owned
and uh we didn't pay for it it was free did i did i mention that part they were
giving them away for free yeah so uh that's the story sort of epic and we
don't need the tables that's right yeah that's right it's fine this table is a
reminder of where we come from yeah that's right
so um no no brandon
bad branded
all right speaking of out with the old
in with the new the original source here is wccf tech and they claim
according to the headline here AMD ryzen lineup and prices confirmed eight cores
for as low as 320 dollars putting ryzen
right competitive with twice as many cores and overclocking capability with a
four excuse me we're up to 7 700 k sorry
i forgot there was a difference
oh okay there was there was a thing that not to jump too far but i think this might
actually be an upcoming topic but we'll get more into it a little bit later yeah there was Intel saying that there's
gonna be a 15 performance bump on the 8000 series chips and a lot of people
were brought up a graphic that shows like yeah and you said there's a 15
performance bump last time too so
anyways that was awkward i mean what is a bump
well okay it was in one specific benchmark yeah i think it was like more for their
mobile chips or something oh no was it like a video transcoding one is the
onboard GPU better than ever sis marker oh okay so that's marcus
it's broad enough that it's kind of hard to uh tell
how well it would represent the improvements yeah did you see me slip
that in there yeah oh so much shade anyway um
so the entire ryzen CPU lineup has been verified and pricing confirmed through
various online retailers
at least three different cpus are supposed to be available on day one and
i gotta say if i hated the name ryzen before the amount of hate that i have
for the model numbers that go with it is an entire order of magnitude higher
so they will include the ryzen 7
1800 x
ryzen 7 1700 x
and the ryzen 7 1700
so r7 it's like
i actually have a video um
hold on i'm gonna i'm gonna see if i can see it you should make a video just
called how to name your product um that's actually not a terrible idea
not that many people would watch it but hopefully they would be important people
like min lang tan and uh oh
yeah yeah yeah shaw wide open internet whatever thank you i was playing games
with uh my brother and a friend of ours the other day and they were both on shaw
and their internet connection completely cut out multiple times while we were playing and it was funny because you
knew it was jaw because we'd be playing and then also just both of them are just
completely gone at the exact same time okay that's great
so this video is all the evidence that i need
to back up that confusing naming way
more views than i thought confusing naming schemes are a big load
of bollocks that need to be gotten rid of
nobody knows what a core i3 i5 or i7 is
5.6 million people you can you could i
was thinking i could say seven 5.7
million people had to watch this video
to understand what the heck is a core i7
and like apparently they needed it because the like and dislike ratio is like really strong it has 92 000 likes
with many of the comments being about how annoying my voice is how i'm
probably gay and uh what's one of the other really
common ones oh and how my earrings need to die in a fire because any videos so
all unrelated that i host that get big enough to get out of the circle yeah get
out of the like sort of people who kind of get it um
so so other than those comments a lot of is like wow thank you for this video i
had no idea this was a very confusing thing for me
AMD is making this even worse what does 7
mean especially because most of the leaked
product lineup references that we've seen so far
indicate that everything in the initial lineup will be seven yeah i sort of hope
that they come up with r5s and r3s just to like
be totally horrible also just because i'd want to watch the
world burn a little bit i mean you already have four
numbers yeah
you have seven seventeen hundred maybe
that first number could mean something and then the next one could mean
something and then the other two could mean something i yeah and like again
and they probably will have some horrible document that's like
what do the product lineup numbers mean um so what do the model numbers mean
Intel Intel actually has this here you go
here we go if you need this
you suck at naming products
okay especially
if we're talking about here this is all xeon
really this is all xeon they have an entire page about xeon
okay whatever there's a consumer one two here
we go so it's separate page okay like the thing is it can change
if you need if you need this
then you're terrible like what is this
what is this why is the product line suffix in a different place than the
product line suffix why is the skew numeric digits moved
over here why wha what could possibly be a reason
for this did they have a focus group did they have a focus group where where
people told them oh yeah you know the way you were doing it before that that
was really sucky so could you maybe make it more terrible
did the focus group say that because i think the focus group is full of a bunch
of trolls
and like i love how they just add stuff in like that one's a mobile processor
sure okay why does it just have letter suffix
they don't have more than 26 product lines
so so why yeah i mean what would what's 26 times
20 26 okay so 26 times 20. he's trying
to get away with having hq in there because it sounds like high quality what
is going in here what's going on they don't have 676 product lines so they
don't need two letters that's for sure
we know this also these are sku specific digits there
are three of them so that's 999
okay 999 times hold on what was 26 times
26 again 100 676. okay so let's go 676
times what was it not 999 okay they
don't have 675 324 skus
what do they need them all for and then times three
yeah three different brands i7 i5
pentium oh don't forget pentium and
celeron that's a different modifier though because those are not
those could be on different things
so anyway um i will give Intel and AMD
at least this much credit okay at least they change the product name
when they release a new product yeah the new product might not perform any better
this is not it might be a re-badge of the old products at least it's not like
Intel uh late 2017 i7
because that would be worse
oh man i mean at least Intel i was trying to
explain this to um Yvonne last night my wife um so i was
telling her hey uh luke needs to borrow our media center pc
so if you and the kids are watching tv while i'm at badminton tonight use the
NVIDIA shield and she's like oh how do i hook that up i've never done that before
and i was like you just use the harmony remote and you
said we'll go play shield she's like oh where is it is it on your nightstand and
i'm like because NVIDIA
released the shield handheld console called the NVIDIA shield
then they released the tablet and they called that the shield k1 or shield
tablet or something and at the same time quietly renamed the shield to the shield
portable then making matters worse they released their shield Android tv which
they then just started calling the NVIDIA shield
so i was talking about the shield Android tv and she thought i was talking
about the shield portable because she doesn't care about the shield Android tv
or just because she got lost in the product naming yeah exactly this is what
we're talking about do we have an actual topic to cover today uh probably i find this oh right
the rise the audience agrees with me i find you ranting about random stuff far more interesting than
rumors about a processor that isn't out yet but you know okay so back to the
processor that isn't out the 1800x is
looking like it's going to be in that 6900k sort of competitive
uh price range wait how much is this no 6900k is like double that cool
i've seen them on sale for like considerably less than that okay well
but you said wait you 6900k yeah so this is looking like AMD is gonna be in that
sort of like the cheaper alternative that like performs better that's all
considerably cheaper than 6900 yeah that's like a thousand dollars isn't it
yeah so word on the street is like half the price and if AMD can be close to the
performance we are going to be looking at a very very different playing field
slightly over a thousand dollars so that's that's slightly
more of a discount than having 95 watt TDP on this sucker
and they're quoting 65 watt on the 1700 which if pricing is anything to go by
looks like it's going to be taking on if they're targeting half the price so that would be going after something like a 68
or 6700k whoa
okay as long as boards aren't totally unreasonable
this is going to be one heck
of an interesting rest of the year yeah
i i'm continuing my skepticism until it
is actually in a bench i've been burned far too many times so the wccf tech
article speculates that the 1700 at 316
us dollars will be 6 900 k class
performance let's see it's going to come down to
overclocking in all likelihood but let's see how that uh turns out but for
the majority of consumers the non-overclocking number is gonna be what
really matters that's true so like yep that's true i'm very excited for both of
those actually how they both overclock and how they both perform without overlapping what i'll say is this that
part of the fun has been taken out of overclocking for me yes in the last
three to four years and the reason for that is that the chips are already
clocked at like 4.4 gigahertz in some cases
um there's not that much headroom left 4.4 g's is like kind of a lot
whereas if AMD comes in and says okay
you know what we're gonna we're gonna sell them at lower clock speeds and
we're gonna bring back some of the fun some of the silicon lottery because
right now you can expect pretty consistent results give or take 300
megahertz on reasonable cooling out of an Intel processor whereas if AMD goes
okay yeah they're going to be cheap we're not going to sell them for this
much we're not going to like bend them close to the wire
and they're they're going to overclock like a bat out of hell have fun
hey they might not i might get into it again that could be cool i would love
that that would actually be the overclocking game has been pretty boring especially with like
shots fired but with like NVIDIA cards right now
yeah NVIDIA cards are about as little fun to overclock as anything holy crap
don't even bother i mean thanks bro i mean it's nice that we're
getting all the performance we can out of a product out of the box
which is great but i sure wish that project green light artificial
limitations um yeah i sure wish board partners were
allowed to just like build crap that power edition card
which one that got yanked remember the 660 ti power edition yes i do yep
i still have one of those pre do you really pre-nerf yeah it's still awesome
it's still really wicked
anyway not one to take this kind of thing lying
down uh this was originally posted in the Linus tech tips forum by numlock21
uh Intel is rumored to be creating
higher clocked kb lake cpus to combat
ryzen i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say
this won't be enough hopefully not
i oh yeah i hope it's not enough yeah for a quad core so the rumored skus
overclock3d.net is our source here are the i5
7640k and i77740k
uh and it looks like about a uh five
percent bump here and about a uh
three percent bump here what are those going to cost though um also it looks
like we may get an i5 with hyper threading which would be very surprising
to me um and if Intel introduced these i
suspect they okay i suspect they're going for one of two tactics
either they think that ryzen's single threaded
performance is not going to be on par with kb lake
especially at this kind of clock speed so they might be counting on ryzen's
single thread performance at the clock speeds it can hit
not being able to compete with kb lake at like 4.6 gigahertz and they might be
thinking you know what we can bring these in above the existing chips as as
gamer oriented skus and these really
will deliver the best performance in games which is
possible or Intel
is in full-on panic mode because with how inbred the entire i.t industry is i
guarantee you there's working rising Ryzen silicon in Intel's Labs right
now there's absolutely no way that there
isn't so the other possibility is Intel is in
panic mode right now and these are going to come straight in as replacements for
the 7 700 and 7600 k and they are
getting ready for a significant price adjustment on the lga 2011 three
platform chips as well i still hope it's not enough
so you hope that Intel underestimates verizon
yes in spite of like the numbers on paper
indicating that performance will be very good yes enough that AMD claws back some
market share prompting someone in Intel to go
oh maybe it would be worthwhile to invest in CPU r and d for
single i think you want to make it very healthy if AMD is able to just like
walk around as king for even like a few years
i don't think it's going to take a few years for Intel i don't think it is either but like that would be awesome
because they could really use like the revenue for a while and like getting
back into the mainstream conversation because as much as AMD is talked about
by us and as well as the AMD content
that we really tried to like crush good job at ces
did market share is super not there yep and
if we could get closer to like 50 50 like it's a gamble
how much like which person is gonna buy what maybe in the diy space at least
yeah i don't think i don't think like if we could get new built-in planning on
our forum to get closer to 50 50 with these chips out like that would even be
really cool i want something to light a fire under Intel because
as scary as it is that part of me worries that this might be
the last time we ever see a big push from AMD i mean it's not like jim keller
is going to go back and like save them again um and he's working at tesla now
um i i i worry
that if this isn't enough to kind of
prompt Intel to get their gear into gear get them
into gear yeah thank you uh we got there
we made it nailed it um
i i worry that we'll just never really i mean never is a strong word but i worry
that we will never really see um
a fire lit under those guys again um so
so yeah this this feels like our chance
on the subject of fires uh this was posted by suicidal franco on the forum
the original article here is from forbes
um oh thank you for the quote of the day
um from richard branson
a fire broke out at a samsung battery
factory
oh man
i'm just going to let that sink in we're just going to sit there for a sec
yeah there isn't even like a ton to say uh it
was a samsung affiliated factory yeah in
tianjin china hopefully i said that right caught fire on the morning of
february 8th uh not even that long ago
pictures circulated on weibo weibo a twitter-like chinese
social media service i've heard of it before i've just only read it showing
black plumes of smoke above the factory the fire didn't affect production a
spokesman has said uh we don't have a quote in the dock at least about whether
anyone was injured or died but we do have a quote about production so i'm
assuming if production wasn't affected probably no one was hurt everyone was
fine let's hope let's hope that let's hope that like that's the only reason
that that made it into the statement yeah um but apparently was caused so
this is actually good news by discarded
faulty batteries so it wasn't caused by
by like pallets of batteries that were on their way to be shipped to samsung or
anything like that
apparently this one was within like the production scope
of note 7 batteries so that's kind of funny oh man but considering it was
discarded batteries could be related to that yep yep could absolutely be related
to that and speaking of injuries and stuff and potential production losses
there was a different chinese factory that replaced 90
of their human workers with robots and they saw a 250 percent increase in
production wow the factory used to run used to be
run by 650 employees and now only 60 of
them still work there and most of them are there to ensure that the machines
are still in working order so it's probably more like the mill rights and stuff that we're working there are still
working there yeah pretty ridiculous robotic arms
produce certain parts of the mobile phones that are produced at the factory
at each station
wow general madden the general manager
has said that the number of human employees could drop as little as 20
someday so they could cut by another third taking 650 down to 20. that's 1
30th is that right 1 30th of the workforce
wow apparently the pieces per person per
month has risen from 8 000 to 21 000
that's that production increase we talked about earlier and this company is far from the only
one making the change i mean we've talked about things like mcdonald's
wanting to roll out restaurants entirely staffed by robots
um i mean this is something that and i'm
not gonna i'm not gonna pretend that either the left or the right have it
figured out at this point no but this is something
that the politicians have to figure out and
have to address welfare state is going to be a thing
socialism is going to be a thing or we
are all going to starve yeah most of us will
period there will not be jobs
to bring back when robots are doing them
and there's been there's been a lot of talk about like oh well every time that
like some new major technological shift has happened there's just been more
different jobs unless like literally everyone ends up going into the
entertainment sector which like doesn't make sense
unless it does unless it unless it does but then everyone's gonna have to
be like those jobs will all have to be paid at ridiculously high amounts let me
propose something here these robots build hard drives
that power the cloud the cloud uh hold on let me think for a
second here no no i had i had i had a way for this
to work okay the cloud
pays entertainers
so amazon okay amazon's an example of a cloud provider that owns twitch yeah
okay so they pay entertainers to play video games hold on
hold on hold on they
they pay entertainers okay to stream to
each other and use the cloud okay
the cloud people go buy food
from more robots that that make food
yeah and then yeah um those robots use
that money to build more robots that build more hard drives
okay so the future economy is based on hard
drives uh yeah seagate and wd are just gonna do
great totally stoked right now
and the idea that you have to be both producing entertainment and consuming
entertainment at the same time well we're going to get real good at multitasking
i mean i'm firing up casey tron right now
so there's going to be streams of people watching streams of other people yes
which is probably already buying live that's definitely yes and then there has
to be live streaming reaction reactions yes and streaming streaming like um
critique of the state of our society yes where
like live reactions to people reacting live
to something that's happening that a robot's doing
is like all that's left for humanity at this point yeah
maybe like factory simulator games will get really really popular and the whole
idea of factory simulator is that there's so many automated factories with
robots that everything that you could do is in existence somewhere so it just
every time that you build something or like change something in the factory it just changes it to a live feed of a
factory that is like that so factory simulator just becomes like a
simulation game yeah so um
yeah yeah uh so speaking of getting paid to be an
entertainer
i fix it um ifixit has a lot of stuff that is
probably in my notes oh yeah i fix it's great we love ifixit i in fact i think i
know i i was using the kit that's why it's not there it's in the um yeah that
one and i think there's one there because i was taking something apart
with it anyway i ifixit builds amazing tools for taking apart and putting back
together and repairing and upgrading your electronics they've got everything
from their like complete one bag to hold
them all solution that's got like their magnetic screw holder their uh you know
microfiber cloth their multiple different screwdriver sets yeah
it's okay someone's probably using it it's fine um all the way from like the
whole bag down to the protec tool kit which has all the little prying tools
you need for taking apart mobile devices suction cups all that good stuff down to
this one which is the essentials oh no
one of the uh guitar picks fell out this is the
essentials um electronic tool kit so it's got one of
their trademark spudgers which is a poking and prying tool
it's got their old version of their their driver with uh what is it 16 bits
it's got their esd safe tweezers it's got one of their suction cups it's got
one of their uh one of their like knife things and one of their other prying
tools they're all great these these prying tools specifically i love those i
use them all the time these are the bomb the number of times that i have
accidentally damaged uh something by using a prying tool that like scratched
it a lot um that's when it wasn't that one
there's little things that they think of like check this out this is how you pull
it out yeah see because there's a little uh there's a little cavity there so you
can just pull it out like that pretty cool right
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that's cool so they actually do like pc resolutions and stuff like that like
they really do care and they're a canadian company yeah they're like and
like it says right on them made in canada i was like they're on the iss
i did not use them for video capture this is the second time i've told you on
stream really because you've reacted the same way
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multiple reboots because epiphan just switches resolutions on the fly so if
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their dvi to PCIe duo is another one that we have that one is a little bit
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all right yeah a bunch of other people are saying that it's a yes
sorry sorry sorry episode we tried yeah um
all right so in a surprise move that surprised no one uh this was posted by
kuru finley underscore wins wow worst
username ever award you win um NVIDIA announces their q4 2017 results
record profits record record quarter gross revenue
2.173 billion this is up 700 million from their
previous q4 unreal um
net income is at 655 million i mean this is just unfathomable
numbers hey yeah wow
that's unbelievable poor AMD they posted their results two
weeks ago 1.11 billion in revenue loss of 51 million and they're in the CPU and
GPU market
unbelievable so yearly numbers uh
6.91 billion revenue compared to 5 billion the year before like when you're
as much of a monster as NVIDIA is i kind of go yeah how do you grow like
30 year over year well apparently they figured it out
um unreal here's their gosh your only
singular competition like i did yeah i guess i don't know
so here's their quarterly revenue trend
look at that they were doing 1 billion and change
boom second half of this year just on fire i mean remember too
NVIDIA is one of the biggest benefactors
of things like deep learning um things
like autonomous driving i mean that is NVIDIA's wheelhouse right now and it is
going AMD is going to have to demonstrate to someone like a car
manufacturer in a big way that they're
still going to exist in five to ten years if they're going to
expect these guys to buy into the ecosystem
this is very very important there's more to it than just well AMD gpus are great
for this kind of processing too if you're investing in building out like
a super computer or something there's no such thing as buying from a
company that you can't trust in addition to it having great performance or great
specs or whatever the case may be
um okay so this was posted by zemul on the forum the original article is from
the steam community here very interesting green light
is going away
fascinating i'm trying to i'm trying to find
information on this i believe the bmw autonomous car was running NVIDIA tech
in it if i recall correctly it was but i remember what it was i suspect um
the car companies are funny yeah where a lot of they're not going to just say
like the bmw x drive whatever the crap
uh do you want uh you want a gtx titan
xp or uh you know 1080 and that affects like you
know how how many pedestrians you can dodge before you snack into a wall or
whatever like it doesn't really work that way they're just gonna say with
like you know NVIDIA it's really funny that
NVIDIA's like compute card the tesla would be a name that no car manufacturer
other than tesla would be willing to say and even for tesla it would be like a
really weird message yes um but they might just say with NVIDIA
you know uh deep learning technology or something like that like there's going
to be something else so it looks like they're working with bmw mini cooper
tesla audi and mercedes-benz okay NVIDIA
is but they're not saying like exactly to what extent
but like that's that's their partners for autonomous driving
um so the new system that valve's introducing will be called steam direct
it's expected to go live this spring uh they've been dissatisfied with steam
green light for a while that's good because so were a lot of people uh game
newell gabe newell described the system as probably bad for the steam community
i like how he's pretty blind about things stated that the goal was to make
green light go away not because it's not useful but because they're evolving so
steam direct will enable developers to get their games on steam without having
to pass an approval process first they will ask developers to complete a set of
digital paperwork personal or company verification and tax documents similar
to signing up for a bank account once they're set up they will pay a
recoupable application fee for each title they wish to distribute
it's intended to decrease the amount of bad games submitted to greenlight as a
joke valve has said there are now more than 100 green light games that have earned
at least a million each many of which wouldn't have been on steam in the first
place if it weren't for green light so they're not saying green light we should have never done it they're adding some
barrier to entry yes and it's recoupable
so i'm not entirely sure what that means
all right completely honest it's probably like part of valve's fee
every time you sell a game doesn't exist
until you've paid off that recuperation that makes sense yep and then you're
back in it i mean i've talked to um folks like guys over at
extremesystems.org they added a one dollar fee to sign up for their forum
and they were like yeah the dollar is meaningless it means
nothing compared to the administration and hosting costs and all that stuff the
point is it's anti-spammer yeah so someone has to
submit a dollar with some kind of financial institution
and the spam was gone and i'm sure it was and that would
help a lot too we're not going to do that yeah um but like i can totally
understand the benefits of that yep we like hurt because of
troll jerks all the time
yep we have a pretty substantial mod team of awesome people because of
all the terrible things that are attempted to be done on the forum and we
deal with them and it's fine all right speaking of terrible things and dealing
with it you were not super stoked on nintendo's game lineup for the switch
does this give you any hope this was posted by good bites on the forum i
don't think a ton of people were super stoked on it i like there's there's a
lot of problems with their game lineup um one thing that this is
one thing about this that is good is that third-party publishers seem to be
coming to the switch a lot more than they were with the wii u from
70 publishers 70 publishers is pretty good
um a lot of the publishers seem to be
liking the fact that it's mobile that seems to be a huge draw for people
um mobile but not a phone you don't have to go through google or apple you don't
have to compete in the app store yeah and the
the even the cartridges are very mobile they look like 3ds cartridges they are not
the same they are not compatible it doesn't work that way but they look
really similar which is which is good because you can haul them around with
you very easily uh there's a huge amount of expandable storage if you want to be
a just downloadable title there's a lot of titles coming to switch that are only
download uh that will not be getting physical carts so you're if you're playing those
games you're gonna need to buy a big sd card real quick because the 32 gigabytes
of onboard storage which part of that's gonna be taken away by the operating
system is gonna disappear fast real fast um so expect to be adding the cost of an
sd card to your system if you ever plan on downloading games yeah sales of like
256 gig sd cards are going to be like
and it will be eventually when they exist compatible with two terabyte
micro sd cards so
yeah um that'll be a thing eventually yeah
but yeah it's it's better the main disappointment that i had was
the uh first party titles actually right the
fact that it's just well you buy nintendo for nintendo yes i do yeah so
that's what made me sad do you own any third-party titles for the wii u
some but not very many right yeah most of
it's most of its first party stuff there are definitely a few that i own but not
very many like it's one of those things where for the wii i have to go back that
far to the last time i bought a console but for the wii
i bought super monkey ball for it and i was just like
this is a lot more games than wii sports
but wii sports was free and every single one of the games in wii
sports has so much more replay value than these mini games in super monkey
balls that's a huge issue and disappointment with the switch there is
no free included game right um and one thing that really helped the wii was the
inclusion of we sports is a great game and
this should really have one two switch included because one two switch i don't
think a lot of people understand the benefit and the fun of one to switch it
just looks like a stupid game at first but if you like think about it for a
while it's actually really cool and a very good party game and a very
good game for bringing the switch with you on the road right you don't have to
look at the screen so just setting it up in tabletop mode and then playing while
looking at each other right makes a ton of sense getting in getting people into
gaming that is social aren't necessarily into games right it's super easy because
you can play things that are more sport-like um
it makes a huge amount of sense but it is a full cost
game it's like 70 bucks or something
like oh man uh i don't know i don't think
they're gonna move as many as they probably should be yeah i
don't know like my son plays wii sports more than he plays vr
yeah and like wii sports brought everyone to the week yep my mom was
super stoked by wii sports everyone that played the wii was super stoked esports
is the reason that i own four wiimotes
two nunchucks and uh instead of one wiimote and one
nunchuck and like maybe a pro controller
and well they didn't exist when i was still buying wii accessories but a
gamecube controller yeah for like so that i could have and maybe a classic
controller like like that it's it's the reason that i own two to three times as
many wii peripherals as i did because like the in-laws wanted to play too
anyway like one of the biggest excited things that i have about the switch is
getting one two switch and then playing random like mini games with emma right
because then it's a way to make it so that like it's so the idea of making it
so that you're playing a video game but you're facing each other is super cool
i don't know NVIDIA well NVIDIA too i mean they're
hardware's in it but now nintendo is apparently very bullish on the switch so
they're saying that um blah blah after the presentation we've seen more
requests and more and more software publishers etc etc new unannounced new
titles will be detailed in the future reiterated that nintendo plans to ship 2
million of the new console worldwide by the end of march
that is uh pretty aggressive they're sold out freaking everywhere
like actually everywhere now it's not that surprising because nintendo is kind
of one of those guys that is totally down with like artificial limitation of
stock um but like the way that we were
arriving before christmas that year was like
you guys had these yeah yeah
you're just you're just trickling them out because
you're jerks yeah but hey i made a lot of money on that yeah i got a free wii
effectively i was so have i told you my story of buying a wii no i was like
interested in buying one i don't remember if i worked at best buy at this time or not um but i was walking by one
of the like end of aisle kiosks things and an employee from the warehousing
section just walks out with a wii and i'm like oh okay someone got one of
their reserved wheeze plunk puts it on the thing i'm like okay just
picked it up immediately went and bought it and i'm like
basically 100 certain that was supposed to be someone else's unit and it just
like got screwed up in the inventory system wow i put it out on the shelf i
camped twice i think i've told you that yeah yeah so that was it was really fun
like i did it with my wife i used to like camping we both camped out that's
the i think it's one of the i don't think i've ever camped for anything else
i've counted for quite a few things halo 2 was my favorite game that i ever came
for peasant did have i ever told you about that
so i i had bought the like magazine that talked about that had like
the halo exclusive details in it and all that kind of stuff i think it was xbox
magazine physical magazines a long time ago okay
and i had read the entire thing many times like this was like a worn magazine
by the time we were in line up and they had a guy come out who's giving swag
away based on if you could answer questions so i was the first person to
put my hand up every single time i got every single answer right to the point where they
started vocally being like we're not answering questions from you or uh we're not
taking answers from you anymore and they would scan other people and then they would keep on getting it wrong and
they'd eventually come back to me and then i'd answer it correct
it was so good someone backed up to the lineup with a truck and they powered a
big crt tv off their truck and everyone was playing halo one out of the back of
their truck that was sick really cool i actually used to enjoy
that stuff that's funny that is one thing i miss about like physical magazines and
manuals and stuff like my final fantasy 6 manual
like i've read like all the stupid character backstories i mean it was a
kid at the time right but like i've read through all the different spells like
it's it's it's stuff like this that i guess you kind of forget about being a
kid where like you're still you know uh
you're still like at some early stage in the game
and you know you're just you just want to like read about spells that like
maybe someday terrible cast
my morrowind player's guide the original one that i had the like cover fell off
because i opened it and closed it so many times and the spine is like damaged from being used too much
it's awesome and then there's my skyrim players guide
that i bought out of like expected need which is still in absolutely perfect
condition because you do not need a player's guide for that game at all
because it's so hand-holdy old-school morrowind like playing that game without
a player's guide you'll just miss a lot of stuff
if you play the game with the player's guide it's literally just a way to find content and the way the player's guide
is written is like spoilers later they'll like bring you to the quest and
like make sure you can start it and then it turns into like if you need help and
then there's like spoilers at the end so you can use it to find things
instead of just like walking you through the game so i'd use it to like lead me
to where i need to go to do something and then if i got actually stuck then i
could check that but it was rather uncommon and you just
use it to lead you through the game
yeah that was fun okay
so there's a couple fun things um yoda
the bill so this was originally posted by f.org yoda the bill that would let
you own and sell your devices is reintroduced by congress
wow all right um
this looks like a bipartisan effort look at that
blake farms farenhold and jared polis so
uh republican and democratic just reintroduced their you own devices act a
bill that aims to help you reclaim some of your ownership rights in the software
enabled devices that you buy what a friendly thing for the government to be
doing if a computer program enables a device
to operate yoda would let you transfer ownership of a copy of that computer
program along with the device the law overrides any agreement to the contrary
like an abusive eula and you have the right to receive security or bug fixes
if someone who also had the right to receive security and bug fixes passes
the device along to you that's very cool very very cool
um that's like i'm very happy that i have been aware of the idea that i might
have to buy blu-rays or dvds of certain movies that i like because for the
longest time everyone was like oh it's just it'll be on netflix it's fine and
netflix is like dropping that super hard
so yeah twitch communities beta this was posted by cp yarger on the forum
and uh basically is a way for us to not be sort of on the
sort of in the gray area of people who are supposed to be streaming on twitch
um because we don't stream games here
so dedicated to things like cosplay drawing painting comedy food music and
uh us i guess yeah cool they're saying users can set up their
own communities if they choose we've heard from our streamers and viewers
that they want the freedom to form specific groups so some of these
categories it initially contains hundreds of them build on top of gamers
interests and some of them just straight up don't so inside communities will be a
stream wall which displays live content from creators who are choosing to
broadcast to the community and broadcasters associating themselves with
the community could give them more exposure for their content allowing them
to pick up more fans cool good for them um what else we got here
something about cody nasa built a chip to survive on venus uh something
something 800 degree fahrenheit that's pretty neat yeah
google's super bowl uh super bowl what
is it super bowl liad lee as in like li like roman numerals
oh 51 is that right yeah super bowl 51 ad
from google uh wreaked havoc on customers who already own a google home
system this was posted by tech dreamer on the forum that's pretty funny
so google's use of ok google
sends people's homes into a frenzy so that's pretty that's pretty funny i
guess and on that note because we started the WAN Show somewhat on time
we're actually going to end it somewhat on time so that i won't actually be late for my
uh for my class were you late last week uh i i was late but mostly because of
the snow i left on time but the snow was terrible
the roads were awful yeah i got stuck on the hill right there
um i had to push people into parking spots when i went home last night
like more than one person i rolled backwards down it no no i got stuck on
the hill and like had to go back down it
carefully and take a run at it and then hope that the light would go green so i
still had momentum as i was yeah it was really bad um
anyway uh oh this
no no not this week not this week yeah got it okay so
can we talk about the idea that we have
maybe let's just not boiler would yeah i don't want boiler to get upset
um what we will do though is we will remind y'all that we do have an early
access platform um i was kind of thinking maybe i would
talk about it during the uh during the like sponsors part of the
show like we could be our own sponsor for the show or something anyway okay if
you're not already a member of the Floatplane club i just dropped a link in
there where you guys can uh what's what's cool on there right now
because people haven't seen my personal rig update yet which has been on there for a while but it's coming out on
youtube relatively soon okay so there's a lot of stuff on there right now in
fact you know what an easier way to do this would be to just look at the
calendar so stuff that is on Floatplane club but is not on youtube yet backlit
keyboards under 25 bucks it's a 10-way roundup
uh we've got luke's personal rig update codename geodude
we've got holy bleep episode 15 the most
hipster server cabinet of all time it's pretty cool we've got the introduction
to the petabyte project where we show off the 100
drives and go through all of our plans for how
that's going to go down we've got our back plates on gpus worth it
uh courtesy of luke yeah and we've got 40 gigabit networking under a hundred
dollars so that's everything that's in the lineup for the next week or so you
guys can check it all out at Floatplane club
and uh no there's no scrapyard wars yet but i will commit to this
we will do another season of scrapyard wars this year
right now we what that's not the hugest commitment that's a commitment yeah yeah
we will so right now Colton chelsea and
nick are working on sponsorship for it because it is time consuming and
expensive but we will do it and
thank you guys very much for watching we will see you next week same bat time
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