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oh my God that's your notes for this video oh no I I have a tiny bit more

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stuff down here the point is we thought

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RTX 490 pretty fast but could it be

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faster good timing for that we're going to be taking this 490 stricks from its

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stock 450 WS of power consumption all

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the way to 1,000 Watts then we're going

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to be adding external voltage modification and chilled water cooling

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thanks to our thermoflex 5000 to see

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just how far this baby can fly fly like

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their ability to dynamically boost their clock speeds in order to deliver the

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best possible gaming experience but as you can imagine they can't just boost

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infinitely so there are three main factors that we need to overcome if we

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want to increase their performance the first is the thermal limit this

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intuitively is put in place to prevent your card from cooking itself in its

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attempts to run cyberpunk at 500 frames per second that we're not worried about

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today though because one this cooler is totally overbuilt this card survived at

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80° in a thermal chamber it's frosting over already Al off and two by the time

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we're done we're going to be running this Quantum Vector Square GPU block on

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it our main focus today then is how to overcome the other two the voltage limit

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and current limit for voltage control we're going to be using this cool little

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doohickey from Elmore Labs it used to be that through software you could just

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adjust the voltage on your GPU but then NVIDIA went

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I'm pretty sure that's exactly the email they sent out and made their Partners

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lock down voltage control thankfully with a relatively simple soldering job

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and a USBC connection to this board that functionality can be restored as for

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current we were planning to do a shunt mod again like we did with the 3090

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where we trick the onboard controller into thinking that it's putting out half

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as much power as it actually is but this

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time thanks to NVIDIA's control freak nature it turns out we don't even have

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to floating around the internet are modded 1,000 watt bioses for the RTX 490

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whether these came from enterprising users or were leaked for manufacturers

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we have no way of knowing but we do know that at some point in the development

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process the 490 was intended to be a much more power hungry card so we kind

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of suspect the former and as it turns out you don't even necessarily need to

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have a matching card to flash these bioses users have reported taking a

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mismatch BIOS flashing it to their card and it firing right up so thanks NVIDIA

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for making all 490s the same I guess

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convenient couple terrifying things about this BIOS first of all it removes

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temperature protections which is really yeah absolutely terrifying we can just

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super easy to cook it yeah and then G will come over here murder us yeah and

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for another obviously it removes the current protection which exists for a

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reason so a our power connector to the

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board is only rated for 600 watts not 1,000 - 7

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925 watts and for another the vrms on

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this board are a not designed to have

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1,000 Watts going through them and B I don't even know if they're going to be

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cooled by the block cuz this is also not designed with 1,000 watts in mind it's

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probably fine it's probably fine before we do any of that though we need to

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establish our Baseline performance so that we know if anything we're doing is

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even helping this is our results for f122 what is interesting is we can see

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that the performance cap reason is just voltage regulation that is what's

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holding us back okay and our maximum

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draw was somewhere around 390 yeah 390

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Watts that's a lot of Watts we could do better though that isn't the only number

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we need though there is some Performance Tuning that we can do without getting

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super sketchy by firing up GPU twerk

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really oh tweak that makes more sense by firing up GPU tweak 3 my vision's going

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we can adjust our power Target turn down in some cases our GPU voltage no we just

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crank it really it has no down by adjusting our power Target our GPU

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voltage our boost clock and maybe we'll throw a bit of a memory overclock on it

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sure we should be able to eek out a little bit more performance in a way we

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would actually recommend replicating at home our power Target is now 120 that's

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as high as it'll let us go plus 200 on the core Plus 900 on the memory I think

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it'll be fine the hot spot is the one we're particularly going to want to keep

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a close eye on because that's the one that especially with so much power

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running through it is going to spike extremely quickly in the absence of

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adequate cooling I mean it seems to be still working yeah just let it let it do

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this thing I mean we can tell that the hot spot is the hotter one way to go yep

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it's very not happy yeah we we clearly do need more voltage yep should we just

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send it maybe it was our core clock we'll

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adjust both at the same time okay here we go holy crap yeah it's nearly running

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at 3 GHz that's pretty fast okay what are we limited by voltage voltage okay

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if we want to get more clock speed then we're going to need more

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voltage oh one second okay well I guess that test isn't valid anymore I was just

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going to see okay 100% it apply sure wow

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that actually worked uh now we're drawing 430 Watts okay and the GPU

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clock's higher that was easy based on the

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scaling we're seeing here man we might

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be able to go quite a bit higher maybe or the card will just blow up for

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just taking some sliders and going like that we went from we just got 12% more

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performance yeah and like our minimums went up by a lot that's awesome yeah

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overclocking who knew let's go faster before we volt mod this 490 we need to

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make sure that we're actually modifying the voltages and not just some number on

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the screen is changing to do that we need to be able to probe this card now I

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don't know exactly where we can find core and memory voltages but I think

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there are some headers right here and if we just solder a couple wires to those

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we are good let's find out what these actually

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do what we're really concerned about here is the core voltage it is just at

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idle so it is currently 0.885 volts that's what we're looking

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for 0.89 that's probably it I don't know

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if you've watched previous attempts of Alex and I to try and sold the reg

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graphic card um they usually don't go too well ah it's such a bad SW IR dude

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it's on I'm not joking why is it so crap

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pretty terrible what are you going to do with those wires I think I was s of them right there oh okay yeah uh all right

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that's probably fine and then like what are you going to use to measure that uh and aamus oh

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no yeah no one's getting lead poisoning

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today so I'm just going to hold it there for a while it's the small things in

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life you got to like man okay I think we're done uh sure there you

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go so there's hot glue on it oh yeah

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strain relief and so it's safe the best

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part is we didn't quite do it right so to look at the voltage you uh you need

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to probe one of these guys to get ground but uh there it is uh 89 volts is

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what we're drawing at idol so uhhuh we

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now know that it works pretty good and you're just going to drag that all over

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the back of the card like that kind of what I was thinking yeah we'll see if we can get to any traces and short it out

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and kill it you were moving I can hold this it

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took a while but the evc2 is working

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it's the sort of thing where like you know when you get something off GitHub and you have to like you install a

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software and the drivers but for the drivers to work you need a specific

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version of java which requires Visual and all of that stuff it took me a

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couple hours but it's working yeah when he told me that he needed about half an

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hour I told the guys over there no less than an hour mhm it has now been four

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yes oh my God it's not even bolted to

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the Alex yeah you've only got four

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screws in it we can add more if you want

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but then we have to add the black plate ah it's fine it's fine H oh the system

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works okay wonderful we're at 089 so

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this right here is telling you everything that's happening with the voltage controller at the moment yeah

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1.05 yeah yeah 1.0

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is how accurate is this uh multimeter do

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I trust this or that you sort of don't

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trust either of them sick basically what

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we're doing here so 06 whatever you can

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see here like before we are voltage limited so you can go in here via offset

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how about 05 yeah sure okay and are we going to see this just waa

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W hello you can see the board power draw

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right there there we

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go that's the sort of speed we're looking for wow oh that's a lot of power

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draw over 3 GHz over 500

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watts 81° C and we're still voltage regulated oh

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oh it's a power for a second it did there it is that little tiny green blip

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there I feel like if we give it just like the tiniest bit more voltage power

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is going to be our problem hear you loud and clear okay how

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about 065 sure now let's see is it going to

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get is it even going to impact it midun

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yeah see this is weird the power draw goes up but the frequency doesn't we oh

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because we are power limited now yeah

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wow we're just shy of 600 watts sir

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should we do a run at 600 WTS and see what we end up with then the GPU chip

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alone is drawing over 500 watts that's a

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lot of power for one of those little guys it's like unfathomable right like

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those damn yeah let's get more power all

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right cool to flash your BIOS it's actually pretty easy what you need is

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Envy flash which a little application here you put that in the root of your

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thing hold on can we just set the card back to default before we do that yes

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yeah and I'm going to do that over here too before you update any kind of

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firmware be it on your motherboard or GPU you should return your entire system

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to stock settings and ideally you should be on a battery backup if for whatever

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reason the power fails in the middle of a firmware update it might

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survive it probably won't see Alex over

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your I've seen things survive with this GPU it's it's a little bit less risky

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because we do have two bioses so if we completely bork one of them flip her

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over other one still is probably good before you change your BIOS you want to

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just make sure that the one that's on there you have saved so just GPU Z quick

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right there save the file even if you never plan to roll it back if you ever

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needed to ARM your card back to the manufacturer for example you would need

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to return it to its stock configuration not that you're ring this once you've

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soldered things to it but if you didn't do that

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now we can have a look at our BIOS wow

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wow that's uh that's something yep we're

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in The Matrix now boys oh oh wait um I think I wait stop

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oh maybe it's fine now we maybe have the

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ability to murder this GPU if we so want now we cook uh I think one 80 is where

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it was happy okay firing it up oh this

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is scary hold on we can do the math here it's at

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14% of its TDP and the board power is

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142 Watts okay okay it thinks it's a

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th000 watt card you know NVIDIA is going to lock this down with the next gen and

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I remember when they were cool we're in kind of scary territory now as far as

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voltage goes okay and we're at 66° and

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480 Watts we got a result but it's not

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going to be any faster yeah 145 that's an improvement oh that's a

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sizable Improvement really what were we before we started at 137 oh all right

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yeah cool I mean it was a rock solid

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3.03 GHz didn't move are we going to run out

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of GPU twerk slider here I doubt it okay

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was that 210 I'm going to give her another 20 140

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average yeah she's fast but she's not

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consuming power how do we keep the card from

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kicking in its voltage cap like we're not thermally limited though something

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else is the problem it'll probably boost a little higher just being cooler but I

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don't think that's the issue here no all right I figured out what the problem was

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before we were only setting a voltage offset now I've like haveed the offset

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but increased the vo command so that seems to have broader voltage to where

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first of all the computers reading a lot more accurate and also I have got some

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very high temperatures I turn it down a tiny bit but uh yeah they more

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protections not a thing on this GPU anymore it's absolutely terrifying so uh

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I'll just give this a tiny bit more guess might be fine it might not be fine

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I don't know let's see tiny bit faster I

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have to watch the Hotpot temperature very closely cuz if that starts jumping

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up we just need to Al have four and get out of here oh that is fast 30

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120 drawing 540 Watts not bad I'm

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shocked how well this cooler works FPS is the same but that's about expected I

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think we're about at the point though where to go faster we need more cooling

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so water cooling down you you want to hear the most absolutely shocking thing

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Andrew yes I have not quite thought

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through how this GPU is going to go in

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for whatever reason our ground lead here doesn't seem to be working so I have

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this in continuity motor right now beeps touch it to ground does not beep before

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we put this in there I want this to just work and not have to worry about this

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lead kind of falling off and ending up somewhere bad kind of like that one right

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there all right I think we're all good to put it

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in here we

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go it's kind of sketchy something like

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that wow this really isn't all that sketchy but it sure is H looks like it I

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want to make sure that all of this is working perfectly before I turn the

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system on because if there's air bubbles in here there is currently no

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temperature protection on the GPU so it will actually just kill itself if I'm

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not like proper running water through

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it might as well top it

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up okay GPU hotspot 17° we're good heck

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yeah one thing that I like to do if you hit Windows control shift

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B like so it resets your video driver

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which can be quite helpful when you're crashing a video card a bunch of times

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well I think you did a fine job oh I know look at at the safety

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straps so secure genius I always forget

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about the capabilities of this Chiller she's chilly it's very good at its job

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unfortunately it doesn't really need to because what we've discovered is that

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this RTX 490 and for that matter pretty

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much all of them is not thermally

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limited in any way and in fact it's not

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even really current limited is it yeah

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no we solved the problem where we uh

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accidentally were applying a voltage rather than a voltage offset but what we

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discovered is that even though we were able to get the power consumption up

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like 580 I think is as high as I saw it

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doesn't impact performance anymore yeah

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unless of course we were to apply dangerously high voltages but we're

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trying to do this somewhat responsibly I don't know I had pretty dangerous

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voltages there and like it doesn't go faster I guess the conclusion is twofold

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then one there's definitely performance to ring out of the RTX 490 if only

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NVIDIA would give us the bloody controls to do it and two they made the right

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call to ship it at 450 Watts given how close the performance is to the 600 wat

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configuration like this right here is probably as fast as it'll go I play with

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the memory a little bit you can get it going like 100 mahz faster but at the

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same time I found that the actual scores went down so

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I'm guessing that it was not quite stable you're riding that Razor's Edge

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yeah NVIDIA gpus will pull back clocks for a couple Cycles if they think

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they're going to crash and so even though the number will be higher like in

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GPU Z the actual score is lower

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so we're ra at the limit at the limit of

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telling you about our sponsor oh first I want to see if we can hit the limit of

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our power supply oh God we could give it

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a tiny bit more voltage get it up to about 500 80 Watts the CPU even though

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we don't have like the direct die cooler on it we can get a pretty easy like 400

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out of thanks to this

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guy that's getting pretty close to the 12200 not quite okay let's see how good

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of a power supply Corsair makes oh she

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get CPU speed has oh wow we're at over

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600 watts on the GPU now oh yes what's

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the Hotpot temperature 73 okay that's fine I think

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that's not hot spot hot spot's 95 95 oh

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that's hot Will Smith that is hot how's our CPU

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doing 6 GHz casual

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no and the RGB turned off did we call it

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editor please cut out the awkward pause while I was thinking of that just use a

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punch in or something if you guys enjoyed this video you might enjoy the

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last time we did this in an even sketchier fashion with a shunt mod

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that one Drew like over 12200 WTS didn't it I don't remember I think it could but

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I don't know if it did
