intel's 10th generation core i9 processors are launching
right now so we need to update y'all on the changes to their high-end desktop
product lineup their massive price cuts and their performance improvements
but by setting the nda lift to midnight the
day before amd's intel has forced us to also tackle
another subject in today's video just how low their cowardly pathetic
weasley behavior has sunk
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have possibly been thinking
that we wouldn't catch on that tech reviewers have never seen this [ __ ]
before that the enthusiasts and gaming communities are just stupid
gee and tell i wonder why your embargo lift is mere
hours before everyone knows
because they announced it publicly that amd will be unveiling their new third
generation threadripper processors make sure you subscribe by the way so you
don't miss our video about that could it be maybe because you're just
so excited to get your hot new hardware in the hands of your valued customers
or could it be because you know that even after slashing your prices as much
as 50 on your rehashed hardware you've still
got nothing and you'll grasp at any
desperate strategy to avoid any direct
comparisons against your competitor's product
i mean the worst part of all of this is that everyone that i have ever met on
the enthusiast and the gaming teams at intel is a good person one with more
than enough common sense to know that this was going to backfire [ __ ]
immediately and what that means to me is that the
only possible explanation for this is that some bonehead executive with no
actual clue about the real world and how it works who ignored those good people's
excellent advice then laid down the law
and went ahead with this plan to launch first by a matter of hours
why so that the launch day reviews which tend to get referenced by buyers over
the entire product life cycle couldn't contain direct comparisons to something
you were afraid was going to be better you are a weasel and you are a chicken
you seek to misrepresent the strength of your products to consumers
weasel and you seek to duck away from a fight rather than take the criticism
that you know you deserve chicken i hope you get fired because there are
people with more integrity serving lunch in your cafeteria and maybe they could
use a raise they certainly wouldn't have handled this any worse than you did
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let's talk about the product now at its core
intel's new cascade lake x is in fact a
skylake x refresh same basic core design
same cache layout same process node same number of cores but there are a number
of tweaks under the hood the memory controller has gotten a nice bump in
both max capacity and default speed and we also get an extra 4 pci express lanes
albeit still running at gen 3 speeds unlike amd's latest cpus which are
running at gen 4. the turbo frequency on this sku intel
opted to provide only one chip from their entire new lineup gets a nice bump
to 4.6 gigahertz and turbo boost max actually boosts it even higher on up to
four cores now the base clock is the same as last gen though so it's clear
that they aren't expecting people to run these with an all-core overclock without
incredible cooling what's truly new this generation is what
intel is calling deep learning boost which is to say that avx-512 has been
expanded with the new vector neural network construction extension
the extremely high level explanation for what this does is it accelerates
repeated multiplication of numbers that happens to be quite common in
convolutional neural network processing anyone who's using these types of
workloads should therefore get a pretty decent performance boost but
unfortunately um that is currently a little bit out of our wheelhouse to
verify all right and there's also some mystery
mitigations for intel's latest round of security vulnerabilities the price drops
those look pretty good at least against intel's own lineup we are now getting 18
cores for what used to be the price of just 10.
but amd's recently launched ryzen 9 3950x16 core for 750
not to mention that it's on a cheaper motherboard makes that feel more like a
defensive reaction than an earnest effort to just bring more value to the
consumer out of the goodness of intel's heart which brings us to performance
testing then we've gone with high-speed ddr4 3600 memory for all the benches
that support it and we've got the highest end consumer chips being tested
along with our hddt ones and here we go
oh oh dear it's a really good thing intel decided
to drop their pricing because it looks to us at least like their 10th gen chips
may actually have worse performance
compared to last gen in some scenarios
in spite of their higher boost clocks
we reached out to intel about this and they said
yes the 10 980xc numbers that you have
are in fact accurate but your 9980xc
numbers are higher than expected
we're not really sure what that means but we retested a bunch of times and
consistently got these results on what is quite literally the same motherboard
with the same bio settings and operating system so
our best guess is that the new hardware vulnerability fixes are taking a toll
here intel wouldn't confirm that but come on linus
it's half the price of last gen right well yeah it is but like even compared
to amd's 250 dollar cheaper ryzen 9 39
50 x the core i9 10 980 xe isn't doing
so hot in most of these tests and that is in spite of its two core advantage
now some of the shorter or more lightly threaded workloads where intel can
really flex their clock speed advantage those look alright but once that boost
window expires the advantage moves clearly to team red
the mozilla firefox compile test is a great example of this where we actually
saved over a minute and 30 seconds on ryzen versus the new core i9 in fact
intel pulls off a convincing win in exactly one scenario spec workstations
energy test summary then
uh good job i guess at least in terms of productivity now
for gaming no hedt processor is truly ideal but the 10980xe refreshingly
manages to pull off better performance than its predecessor here and amd's
gaming king the 3950x also couldn't
stand up to it only the core i9 9900 ks pulls off a
substantial lead from the rest of the pack so i mean that's not that terrible
but it's also not what most people would buy this cpu for so
thermals and power are an interesting thing to measure on the 10980xe at face
value you might think it's as simple as having a base clock of 3 gigahertz and a
boost of 4.6 but in reality there's actually far more going on here so just
have a look at this mess of avx offsets and per core boost clocks in fact what
intel doesn't tell you on the box is that the all core boost frequencies are
actually the same between the 10980xe
and its predecessor we tested this for ourselves while we were trying to wrap
our heads around the results from earlier and yep
higher lightly threaded boost in the setup phase of this blender render then
identical all-core boost through the rest of the test
notice by the way how the 9980xe manages
to catch up somewhat by the end of the test despite its slower start this seems
to support our hardware mitigation handicap hypothesis
as for power consumption we got this very bizarre reading and moderate core
temperatures with our corsair h159 aio water cooler which suggests that the cpu
would actually very much like to possess a higher base clock but to hit their tdp
targets intel didn't give it one i mean at least you might find a little
bit of overclocking headroom on this thing as long as you've got strong custom water cooling
to be clear though i've been really harsh today
but a lot of that was being mad about
the chicken way that intel handled this launch i mean this is not a bad product
it doesn't make your cat sick or randomly shout insults that burly men
who pass you on the sidewalk or whatever it's just clearly the result of far too
much beating of far too many dead horses
this is the end of the line for x 299 i
mean zen 2 based mainstream chips are challenging intel's best of the best and
intel didn't even have the stones to go up against the threadripper chips that
are also launching today so that should give you some idea how that's gonna go
and so with that in mind the conclusion is this
10th gen isn't awful but what it is is still very expensive
and a dead-end platform with nowhere to
go for upgrades so it is clear that intel needs to have a much more
compelling response to zen 3 when that
launches which will be in the first half of 2020 if amd is to be believed
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thanks for watching subscribe i think i kind of said that already i'm done i'm out
why you do this to yourselves it's like it's not a terrible product we
we could have talked about you know the the pricing adjustment and the you know
hey at least they're finally reacting but instead you go and make it all about
how you're cowering in the corner with your tail between your legs
shame on you okay no i'm done for real now