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okay it is when show time again

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it has been a very challenging three weeks so i was talking to um

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i don't know i was talking to a couple of people about it today because it was such an

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astonishing realization for me that i just had to share it with everybody

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um in the last three weeks i have spent only six out of 15 days

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working on our like daily content wow

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five days i was out for tech showdown yep three days i've been basically out for

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rog rig reboot yep and then one day i was out for ultrawide festival

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so you throw in a few wan shows yeah and i have actually had almost

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no time to work on like our normal content

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so on the one hand it's great that we're like getting any of it done

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so that's cool but on the other hand like i haven't actually gotten to goof around

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with tech in so long

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like i okay the kinds of projects that i have on the go right now okay i have a a

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threadripper uh ihs transplant to do so i want to put

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the vanity Linus tech tips one on a working chip nice yeah okay so

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yeah it's nice if i can ever do it i want to break out the old chiller oh i

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thought you're saying like these are things you're progressing and goes no i'm making no progress i want to go sub

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zero i want to do the final office update for the uh for the uh window tv

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okay yeah um you know what i should i should bring up

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trello i should have a look at all the other like crazy stuff that i'm supposed

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to be doing right i don't get to play with that kind of technology anymore but

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like um you need to change your handle man but

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xiaomi mi mix 2 yeah got to get my review done of that

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like look at the screen on this thing it's upside down well yeah wow but look

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at that the whole thing whole thing's a screen yeah basically yeah and that's

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cool software software is terrible software is terrible um

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software needs some work um i don't get to play with that kind of tech but uh

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boiler i'm not gonna say your whole handle you need to figure out someone else dude um has been like contributing

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to the sales open source which is super cool and some cool things have happened

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this week we had that meeting thing which i'm sure didn't help at all with

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your being able to work on uh yeah content stuff but Floatplane

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Floatplane progress right yeah yeah

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hopefully dude if you're out there take the job

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come work with us yeah that would be great we uh we need

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we need skilled developers

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yeah um yeah other cool stuff most insane SSD set up so six 960 pros

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running in raid zero nice on Threadripper nice like actually that one

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progress is being made because ivan's working on it but anyway the point is i

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think the most insane SSD setup is actually when that guy tied together

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like 50 of them like six years ago

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so i'm just saying i'm just saying like you might have used

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newer technology but like you said SSD

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setup in general

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so like just saying

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anyways for news this week we have a bunch of different stuff one ncx tech

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tips is like gone it's in limbo that's for sure for

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now maybe coming back google announces the

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pixel 2 and pixel 2 xl

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uh and Intel is renaming their kaby lake

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pentiums it's super dumb it's like the dumbest

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thing ever yeah and uh oh right we'll roll the

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intro now

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it's interesting because we have a few pieces of Intel news in here which has

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not been super common for a while because i've been AMD but it's like not

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good stuff um

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you know i actually probably want to talk about that

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because yeah actually you know what yeah i do

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have some i do have some stuff to say about that are you gonna talk about this by the way um yeah i will okay

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um

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uh oh yeah yeah sorry max i'll i'll do that for you i totally forgot i remoted

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into my computer and then i just didn't do it i tried unlocking your computer

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nope my computer uses a real password

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yup unlike everything else

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um sorry guys hold on a second

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okay i just saved a v3 and you're good okay

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all right so

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you know what why don't we why don't we tackle

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let's do the dumb Intel news first and then let's do the dumb cool dumb

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reaction to Intel news because like honestly i was pretty um

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i was pretty frustrated with the community's reaction to

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certain aspects of coffee lake and the launch and our

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review of it okay um because i haven't looked into this it was it was

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pretty dumb uh so numlock21 posted on the forum the original article here is

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from tech powerup and

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twitch right now rats hold on

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um um um

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um

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yeah all right

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Intel to re-brand pentium

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as pentium gold oh

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oh oh yes ah yes

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wait why okay so it's all part of like

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an overarching stupid thing hold on i'm just gonna turn the apertures uh more

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but more open a bit one sec what i'm so confused is this only for the hot oh

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sorry one second guys this is kind of silly

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okay i think we just need it so low power low-power gemini lake socs will bear the

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pentium silver brand besides celeron

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is there pentium bronze i don't see a pentium bronze

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so there's pentium silver and pentium gold so basically as far as i can tell

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Intel hired some kind of new like senior vp of branding or

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marketing or like product naming or whatever that position

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is where you actually make the decision about what to call the product and they

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did the unthinkable they managed to make Intel's naming

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scheme worse it's impressive you know like to give

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them props yeah they found a way because they had the will they had

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Intel they were determined Intel hasn't named

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for a consumer okay like i'm not talking about you know xeon or itanium

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itanium sounds pretty cool the problem with sculptural is that it's

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a code name Intel's code names are so good yeah a lot of the time sometimes

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they're dumb skull trails that was so cool bone tram oh my god i mean even

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stuff like alpine ridge yeah like that's pretty cool be like yeah i want like an

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Intel alpine ridge hell yeah that's a Thunderbolt controller by the way it

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ended up i mean even Thunderbolt has a cool name but on the CPU side okay so

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bad go way back in the day it was like the 286 and the 386 and the 486 and all

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that made sense i know there are numbers but people remember that you got your generation and you got your your

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instruction set okay x86 pretty straightforward

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cool then they got to five and they were like no let's not do 586 let's go

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pentium and you know what not bad maybe

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part of it is that pentium has basically existed since i've like had a computer

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well no actually that's not true we had a uh 386 that we then upgraded to a 40 i

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can understand that change though you're going to be wrong slightly less ultra

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hardcore yeah you're going you're you're and then you and then you go generations of pentium

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okay and then celeron i was like yeah sure okay celeron why not

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then came core

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what if it was actually how many cores they

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had then sure yeah so if if a core two

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was a dual core yeah but yeah but then you're like you're

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backed into a corner because what are you going to call that what are you going to call the next

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generation you would have to call it the core 2 2. do you remember core 2 quad

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though yes core 2 duo core 2 quad so you

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would have to say i mean you still have to do it you would

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have to say yeah i've got an Intel core 2 duo dual

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core cp

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bad no and then you got these indecipherable

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numbers at the end of them and in Intel's defense there is a legend on

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their site for how to decipher them yeah but you know many of the numbers like

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never ended up getting incremented at all so they might as well have just

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not had them and Intel plants out their product road

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maps so far in advance like do they really need to leave

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you know like a 50 there just in case they

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need to use it like they did they never do it

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uh so anyway anyway so we've been stuck with core

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core i3 core i5 core i7 for a long time and then at least core i9

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made sense in the sense that it was a a

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continuation of something that's been established over the last 10 years if

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you want to show off how ridiculous this is just show our Intel naming videos on

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techwiki yeah i think it's got like six million views

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like what is uh uh what is core i7

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uh videos

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yeah hold on here we'll bring this up uh seven million like it keeps on

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trucking this one what is a core i3 core i5 and core i7 as

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fast as possible seven million freaking views all right what's the core i9

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that's got a million since three months ago like people like i clearly understand it a little

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better now than they used to but at least core i9 had the advantage of

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continuity and sort of people aren't shopping for it as much

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it's too expensive and the other issue too though is that they did kind of

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screw it up because if core i9 had simply been high-end desktop

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yeah then sure but they've got core i7s

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and core i5s on the same platform

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and oh man 7740 k or x is it an x i can't even remember

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but whatever the like the kaby lake chips on x 299

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they were super dumb when x 299 launched

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now they are like super super mega ultra

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dumb because now that coffee lake has launched

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7740x you would only be buying one of those if you were just a complete idiot

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or you were a professional overclocker looking for like per core records or

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something because coffee lake is overclocking pretty well five gigahertz

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it looks pretty attainable and not just for like people who are sorting through

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trays of cpus so that's pretty cool anyway coming back to pentium so they brought

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back the pentium brand um after having gotten rid of it for many years and they

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assigned it to their cheapo products and i was kind of like

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like that feels a little bit like uh it's kind of sad yeah it's like reusing

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what used to be like top of the line like cream of the cream and like going

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for like a nostalgia sale to someone who like i guess in the sense it's like it's

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if it's competitive with Intel's like old cpus like

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you'd have to be running something old enough to be a pentium for it to be an

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upgrade right maybe that was the rationale i don't know

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um like at least they didn't

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at least they didn't pull an AMD where they brought back the fx branding oh for

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like a super super mainstream product

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because remember guys or maybe not remember like i'm gonna let you know

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young people fx used to be a thousand dollars yeah

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period you didn't buy an fx for less than a thousand dollars that was it it was it's

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cream of the cream and then they brought back fx as like

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super ultra mega rebranded

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stuff we had sounds cool so it might sell some stuff

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yeah exactly so anyway um

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back to gold as far as i can tell Intel

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brought in some kind of rebranding executive

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who renamed all these zeons

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according to this bronze silver gold platinum

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naming scheme and it makes

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no sense at all i'd love to see internal numbers

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to see if anything changed when they did that no of course not oh i know but like

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i would like to be able to represent my argument with facts and it's so

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confusing because again Intel's server products

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the product names were a little confusing like uh something like like a

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2687w but like you need such specific things

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yeah it doesn't really matter if it's confusing you're going to arc them all anyway and if you know what a w is a w

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is like a high power workstation chip then you'd know it's not going to have

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the same like max core count as the ones that are designed for um like tons of

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virtualization or whatever else um and it's gonna have like higher boost clocks

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it's probably got a higher TDP like you could kind of piece it together if you were somewhat familiar with the lineup

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now like a gold could be a high performance skew that fits in this

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socket or that one or like this dual platform one it has to do with like the

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raw performance but the features get left behind and so now we're just we're

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just like gonna just tack gold onto stuff

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like i just it's just frustrating

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so the name change comes with a refreshed case badge and a slightly

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modified box design and it'll be effective november 2nd

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2017. so basically gold which is

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i don't want to say always tacky but it's pretty much always tacky

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usually tacky unless it's a rank in a competitive video game it's tacky

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well now hold on golden black can look

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pretty good i mean as like a product naming thing oh oh yeah that no that

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like how dead is that like when's the last time anyone did like

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bronze silver gold you can use gold tastefully it just has to be used

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properly like remember when we were doing the support tiers on the forum

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which incidentally are bronze silver and gold we were talking about it i was just

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like you know what i just don't have time to think about this let's just do bronze silver and gold

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but like but Intel what's your excuse i think

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ours is also pretty easy there isn't any confusing like

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it doesn't actually follow the features it only follows raw performance like no

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there's really not much else you get yeah you

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get a different colored badge you get access to a better forum thank you for

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your contribution that's ultimately what it is

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so not a better form everything happens in the bronze forum spoiler alert yeah

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there's a counting to 10 000 thread in the bronze forum and the silver and gold

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forums are pretty much cobwebs hey do you guys want to uh do you guys want to

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get some really cool insight into the way that youtube does or doesn't deliver

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video notifications to subscribers

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this is pretty cool so hold on i'm actually going to load up another

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another tab here to give you guys some context for this this is pretty cool and

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i have some i have some good Intel news in in a moment here but um

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here let's go ahead let's bring up some analytics for this bad boy

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surprisingly a lot of people said no

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about what wanting to see this really there was definitely quite a few

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people who said yes as well but okay well whatever it's cool you'll like it

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so here's the dashboard for one of our recent releases so you can have a look

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at what a video might typically do

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in the first hour so

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this is our core i7 8700k review um

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sitting at 690 000 views and in the first hour it did about 84 000 followed

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by 72 000. this is a weird launch time so this dk curve looks a little bit

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different than it normally would but it's also not totally atypical yeah

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all right so in the last 60 minutes

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there goes a fly it did about 3 400 views oh you guys can't see that

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whatever that you take my word for it 3 400 views or so okay

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so youtube's algorithm is

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so i don't use the word smart damn but what

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i'll say is it is so aggressive

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about targeting content that it

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it thinks might be me trying to use my

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subscriber base as a way to communicate with the people that

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watch Linus tech tips it's so sensitive to that that check

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this out the WAN Show and stream announcement video

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i specifically uploaded at the same ish time every week with the same title

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every week and youtube's algorithm has got this thing crushed to the point

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where in the first hour

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it is probably gonna do like

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let's see we're only doing about a hundred and seven of an hour i think yeah something along

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those lines it has only managed to do about 3600 views in the last 20 minutes

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or so pretty crazy that's nuts so you see

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okay this is an extreme example and this is something where you know what

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quite honestly i could name it something else and that would

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help more people get notifications for it

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but intentionally i'm feeding into the algorithm here allowing the algorithm to

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take the people who aren't interested in WAN Show and just not pump them a

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notification like i'm okay with that because we just do it because we've

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always done it and if it boosts the live viewers a little

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bit then like great they know we're live that's cool for the people that do rely

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on that notification if we don't put it up some people do miss the lan show

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um but what this is this is also a fair amount of this to be clear um yeah i'm

00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:07.679
glad max won in the chat said i see the youtube video i ignore it and i hit the

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:13.600
twitch bookmark so that might be part of why it gets buried either way either but but that's

00:19:11.760 --> 00:19:18.080
one of the reasons that we we continue to do it just in case people are relying

00:19:15.280 --> 00:19:24.240
on it yeah um but this is an extreme example of the way that youtube does

00:19:21.679 --> 00:19:30.720
manipulate the way that it uh the way that it propagates new video information

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to someone who is subscribed um

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and it's uh it's one of those things that's frustrating it's one of the reasons that we're we're starting float

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plane and i was just kind of inspired to talk about it for some

00:19:37.919 --> 00:19:43.440
reason i don't remember why anymore but we can we can move on to our next topic

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um all right so i was a little i was actually a

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little disappointed in our in our viewers reaction to the coffee

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lake video um

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like there was an astonishing amount of

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ignorance in some of the comments uh with respect

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to how um how we would have manipulated what

00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:12.400
benchmarks we used like and like the problem is that the arguments just don't

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even make any sense like someone was upset that we didn't

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include the ryzen 7 1800x

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um as though we were trying to conceal AMD's superiority

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and we didn't want AMD to seem like a better value the 1800x is not a very

00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:31.919
good value the best value ryzen 7 is the 1700.

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um this 1800x is what like 200 megahertz

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higher than the 1700x

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why uh how how would that hurt AMD's value prop

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to throw in a processor that costs a hundred dollars more and clock 200

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megahertz higher how how are we hurting AMD's appearance of value by choosing

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one of their chips that is a better value um now one thing that we didn't

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discuss in our video and honestly the funny thing is this like barely even

00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:07.360
came up people are so fixated on um

00:21:05.679 --> 00:21:12.320
you know comparisons that they don't like or and or don't understand or whatever

00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:16.799
else that they didn't even notice this one what we should have discussed was some

00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:22.400
of the differences in platform cost like the fact that a b350 board is cheaper

00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:24.240
than a z370 board um

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but just the number of people that are like when we release a video that's positive

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about Intel they're like wow you guys sure changed your tune so

00:21:31.760 --> 00:21:36.400
fast about being sponsored by them no

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we changed our tune because they released a different product

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that's different than the one we said we didn't like

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it's it's called it's called looking at what's in front of you

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and evaluating it instead of just going in having already

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decided the answer um

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yeah yeah is it like is it as bad as the um

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oh my god they didn't benchmark with uh

00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:14.480
wow why i can't think of the neighbor right now right now future of opengl

00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:19.200
vulcan um yeah hard to say

00:22:17.919 --> 00:22:22.640
hard to say but anyway

00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:26.799
yeah apparently we're doing damage control over Intel forcing customers to

00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:29.520
buy a new motherboard on the same socket i wonder how much Intel paid him for

00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:33.760
this nothing nice so

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the way that that radar 10 out of 10 comments and

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unfortunately i can't get anyone to go on the record about it

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so i can't say who my source is but what happened was Intel designed their

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platform for two generations of cpus the same way they have for the last 10 years

00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:57.440
that's how it went that's how it goes down you cannot like it and that's

00:22:54.880 --> 00:23:02.400
totally cool and i totally get it um but they designed it for two

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generations they did not design it for a

00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:09.679
six core processor and there were physical things that were redesigned

00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:13.280
could Intel have made it work

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off the record i've got indications that they might

00:23:16.080 --> 00:23:22.960
have been able to in fact probably could have

00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:26.960
but would it have been a janky solution that might not have had the reliability

00:23:25.280 --> 00:23:30.320
that Intel is known for in all likelihood yes

00:23:29.280 --> 00:23:34.320
so was this partially a marketing decision

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possibly personally i'm pretty annoyed that a

00:23:36.679 --> 00:23:42.159
z370 for example cannot hold a sky lake or a kaby lake

00:23:41.280 --> 00:23:45.919
chip but i totally understand why Intel

00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:51.440
wouldn't want to put their stellar reputation for reliability on the line

00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:57.200
by allowing you to put a new coffee lake chip in your z270 board without having

00:23:55.360 --> 00:24:01.840
fully validated it and here's another thing you guys have to understand

00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:05.120
just because Intel has a spec and just because like

00:24:03.679 --> 00:24:09.120
it should work doesn't mean that every motherboard

00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:12.960
manufacturer out there built properly to the spec

00:24:11.600 --> 00:24:16.559
it doesn't mean that every skew will work

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:20.480
and when you're someone like Intel if you say it's going to work

00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:24.720
it is supposed to work yeah and like

00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:29.520
building to spec uh a lot of the times you make product differentiation by

00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:34.640
finding ways to not build to spec you end up making a lot more people mad by

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:38.880
trying to accommodate them sometimes than you do by just going nope forget it

00:24:37.120 --> 00:24:41.919
it doesn't work because something that you guys are probably missing here you

00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.760
look at the motivation you go well it's probably money grubbing so let's look at

00:24:43.760 --> 00:24:49.200
something like Intel optane which they opted

00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:54.960
um which they opted to support on only

00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:57.039
z270 was it if i recall correctly uh

00:24:54.960 --> 00:25:00.400
octane wilson's have been on when that was painful yeah i'm sorry

00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:06.240
um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:11.120
obtain i'm looking to upgrade upgrades essentially an m.2 i want to know if not

00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:17.520
like i lost my pun tolerance okay i i think it i think it is uh i

00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:17.520
think it is only 200 series

00:25:19.760 --> 00:25:26.720
hold on there's a there's a thing on puget obtain

00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:32.480
yeah okay cool so it's only supported on z270 so the reason for that it's just an

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:36.080
m.2 stick that's all it is it's an SSD

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:39.039
using the m.2 standard so feasibly Intel

00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:43.039
could have supported it on z170 and a lot of people might look at this and go

00:25:41.360 --> 00:25:46.799
well their motivation must be money grubbing they just want me to run out

00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:50.240
and buy a new motherboard do you really think anyone at Intel is stupid enough

00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:53.440
to think that anybody's gonna go buy a new motherboard for optane

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:58.320
if you had enough money to buy a new motherboard you would buy a boot SSD buy

00:25:55.919 --> 00:26:01.520
a dedicated SSD optane is a value solution

00:25:59.600 --> 00:26:04.159
it's not money grubbing if they were money grubbing

00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:08.320
they would shoehorn in the support

00:26:06.159 --> 00:26:11.600
not validate it fully and just let people buy it and if it works it works

00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:17.279
and if it doesn't it doesn't like ubisoft because the reason that they decided not

00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:20.240
to support it on z170 and this is i'm not going to quote my source this was

00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:26.320
kind of off the record i'm actually not even sure if i should be talking about it was that depending on the

00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:30.880
implementation and you got to remember this isn't just

00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:35.840
like enthusiasts you know gaming boards or whatever this is across

00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:39.679
the like dells and acers and lenovos of

00:26:35.840 --> 00:26:41.120
the world the implementation on z170 of

00:26:39.679 --> 00:26:45.200
m.2 might not have been up to snuff and they

00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:49.840
can't rely on these guys to roll out UEFI BIOS updates to build in the

00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:54.480
support because that would be required so it would end up being a very

00:26:51.360 --> 00:26:56.080
confusing message

00:26:54.480 --> 00:27:00.960
if they wanted to sell more units they would want a wider install base of

00:26:58.159 --> 00:27:03.679
supported products duh don't you think

00:27:03.919 --> 00:27:09.279
so anyway i'm not necessarily happy about

00:27:07.760 --> 00:27:12.559
everything they did here but you also have to understand that it's not always

00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:16.000
as simple as like they're bad people and they just want

00:27:14.159 --> 00:27:21.600
your money they do just want your money their business but also understand so

00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:24.080
does AMD so does NVIDIA none of them are your friends

00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:32.240
um right that was gonna bring us really

00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:38.159
well into the whole uh off spec thing why are people getting different coffee

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:42.640
lake performance results so this was uh inspired by a tweet from jay's two cents

00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:48.880
and was originally posted on the forum by uh oh dang it there's no there's no

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:53.039
who posted it on the forum thing james

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:53.039
um was originally posted on the forum by

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:59.760
oh man oh oh this was just a discussion in our

00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:04.559
own thread okay well fine fine james uh but here's jay's here's jay's tweet yep

00:28:02.320 --> 00:28:09.679
i showed that in twitch too cool so you can see that our number and jay's

00:28:06.399 --> 00:28:12.640
number are pretty close yep but then

00:28:09.679 --> 00:28:15.840
paul's is a chunk down and then kyle's is even further down from that and

00:28:14.159 --> 00:28:20.960
there's a lot of differentiation this is a significant difference like with us

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:26.640
and jay sitting around the 1 50 range and paul and kyle being in uh four in

00:28:23.600 --> 00:28:30.080
the 1400s and 1200s

00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:32.080
so um one of the theories um and this

00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:35.679
was kyle's chip compared to jay's chip is almost a 300 point difference yep and

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:39.760
that is it that is a massive huge difference in cinebench

00:28:37.760 --> 00:28:42.640
that's like you know one of your cores isn't working level of difference in

00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:49.039
cinebench so um i can't i can't believe he goes by

00:28:46.320 --> 00:28:52.880
gaben jr on the forum but um

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:56.559
anyway Anthony from our team uh was talking about how gamers nexus

00:28:55.120 --> 00:29:00.159
had found that their Gigabyte board was giving them less voltage than specified

00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.480
and he was wondering if maybe ASUS did the same thing in the opposite direction to

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:09.520
give us better results so

00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:14.640
it seems like there's a known issue that has to do with the boards not being

00:29:11.679 --> 00:29:18.080
fully tuned for coffee lake yet where the voltages being applied might be

00:29:16.159 --> 00:29:24.880
affecting performance so we actually have a review coming on the MSI vortex

00:29:20.520 --> 00:29:27.200
g25 where our original script um that i

00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:31.919
reviewed with alex a couple of days ago had this comment on how when we stress

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:37.520
tested it it would run at four point whatever gigahertz turbo for like

00:29:35.360 --> 00:29:41.520
i don't know three seconds and then it would drop to like 3.2

00:29:39.360 --> 00:29:45.679
whoa so we got a new BIOS fixed

00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:49.120
so it looks like this launch might have been a little rushed now

00:29:47.360 --> 00:29:51.760
unfortunately we weren't able to comment on that in our coffee lake review

00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:58.080
because as a general rule we have made a habit

00:29:55.760 --> 00:30:03.120
of using only one particular brand of motherboard for our launch reviews

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:07.360
because we have found that it means we're less likely to end up with a 1200

00:30:05.760 --> 00:30:11.919
point cinebench score when we were supposed to have 1550. wow interesting

00:30:09.840 --> 00:30:15.360
it's like that's paid off for us so far um

00:30:13.840 --> 00:30:19.760
but uh anyway um Anthony also said that one of his

00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:23.919
hunches is vrm throttling thanks to the lower specified voltages um

00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:29.600
and that could be affecting their CPU scores and it seemed like that would

00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:34.159
make perfect sense for something like what happened with that um with that uh

00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:39.200
pre-built machine yep anyway to be clear it's not like i'm

00:30:35.760 --> 00:30:40.960
crapping on MSI or Gigabyte or asrock or

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:45.679
ASUS even it's not like they don't make mistakes they do

00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:49.200
they all do um but what it looks like might have happened with this launch is

00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:51.919
that it got it might have been kind of rushed if you're not making mistakes

00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:57.120
you're not trying hard enough yeah you're not go you're not going fast and

00:30:53.600 --> 00:30:58.720
frantically enough yeah type faster

00:30:57.120 --> 00:31:03.360
um so anyway it looks like that has a fair

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:06.240
bit to do with uh with people's coffee lake results being kind of all over the

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:09.760
place like even even some of ours were like we

00:31:08.159 --> 00:31:14.240
have some gaming results where coffee lake in spite of its faster clock speed

00:31:12.159 --> 00:31:19.120
and nearly identical architecture and more cash is getting beat by the 7700k

00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:22.640
in gaming and people look this is impossible these numbers are fake news

00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:26.640
it's like okay first of all you guys can't even decide what agenda i'm

00:31:24.399 --> 00:31:29.840
fighting for because if i was on Intel's side

00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:33.840
i sure as heck wouldn't be talking about how the new chip doesn't perform as well

00:31:32.159 --> 00:31:37.440
you're fast and loose just yeah whoever can handle the check faster yeah like

00:31:35.360 --> 00:31:41.279
like boom boom from minute to minute yeah yeah you know what when the mid

00:31:39.679 --> 00:31:44.880
it's friday when the mail delivery arrives

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:48.159
i could be changing sides like that if your CPU box doesn't have a few hundreds

00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:52.399
in it you ain't getting a good review that's right figure it out um

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:56.640
actually please don't do that so anyway it looks like it looks like that could

00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:59.200
be to do with something like a Windows scheduling issue

00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:04.320
which was one of the things that affected ryzen 7 performance back when

00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:09.600
it launched i mean am i saying that it's for sure that no

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:15.360
but 12 threads is more to handle than eight and we already know from the past

00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:18.080
that hyper threading can affect gaming performance negatively

00:32:17.120 --> 00:32:23.840
so that might be one of the reasons that and we didn't get an 8600k i almost want

00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:26.559
to do a separate review of it because they are

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:33.840
kneecapping the i5 like more every generation yeah

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.840
the 8600k is a significantly slower chip

00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:40.880
unless you overclock it used to be what everyone purchased yeah and Intel has

00:32:38.399 --> 00:32:45.279
gradually tried to move people to i7 they've tried to brand

00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:49.039
the i7 better and apparently that's not enough so they are

00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:54.480
well i bet you that's part of the existence of i9 it's trying to be like i7 isn't the most

00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:58.000
expensive one that's an interesting thought because

00:32:56.399 --> 00:33:03.039
well actually i had never thought about this before either but when you go to the store the shampoo bottle example

00:33:01.760 --> 00:33:07.919
you know the like this is the way to expensive one this is the way too cheap one i'm gonna buy the one

00:33:06.159 --> 00:33:12.000
in the middle or if you take four of them i'm gonna buy the third one

00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:17.519
because it's like more value than really expensive one but i'm still getting a nice premium thing

00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:22.480
maybe that's some of the thought process there

00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:26.399
all right so oh you know what by the way people in the chat still doing the yes

00:33:24.320 --> 00:33:29.279
and no meme that's impressive i know we haven't even done it we should do a

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:32.320
shirt yeah but now it's going to be too late i know it'll be like a month or two

00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.080
until we have the shirt it's our own dead meme yeah i said we should do a

00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:41.679
shirt like the day that thing started dead memes yes and then we didn't um

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00:35:47.839 --> 00:35:55.520
get 10 percent off your first purchase someone said it's down now it's not

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:58.880
it's definitely still up so do i have to prove it live

00:35:57.200 --> 00:36:03.760
like do i have to do this do i have to do this you can

00:36:01.359 --> 00:36:05.920
hold on wait what what did i just click on

00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:12.200
what what the oh i'll fix that later

00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:12.200
boop

00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:24.400
all right linusmediagroup.com we haven't updated this in so long it's so old

00:36:20.560 --> 00:36:27.599
our team let's see who's even on here

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:31.040
minus uh luke yeah we gotta get you uh

00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.040
gotta get you removed wow

00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:41.599
hey i don't know i don't make the rules i don't make the rules man that's gonna be really weird

00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:44.880
pella tyler max Anthony alex james

00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.880
uh ivan's not on here

00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:52.320
um is Jake on here even oh yeah Jake's on here Jake's on here

00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:58.160
um i'm sure there's someone else we're missing Jake's like sort of an old

00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:01.200
number now i know right

00:36:58.160 --> 00:37:02.880
he was before pella yeah

00:37:01.200 --> 00:37:07.839
he once rode from victoria to san francisco i i didn't even uh i didn't

00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:11.920
even know that like dude i also didn't know he had

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:15.359
never used a Windows computer before he started working here i wish he wasn't

00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.040
physically broken because i'd like to go swimming with him

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:23.200
holy crap but he's physically broken right now oh he'll fix it how's he

00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:26.960
broken right now just like shoulder and knee issues oh bummer probably from

00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:31.359
doing stuff like biking from victoria to san francisco right yeah okay

00:37:29.359 --> 00:37:37.400
in like a really short period of time i don't remember what it is but like he

00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:37.400
got there really fast and then went back

00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:43.839
like it's it's actually kind of amazing dude's super cool all right so synergy

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:47.680
allows you to solve the problem of having two keyboards and two mice it

00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:52.240
allows you to solve lots of problems even like being able to throw your

00:37:49.839 --> 00:37:57.359
laptop on your desk and being able to just like use your desktop peripherals

00:37:55.040 --> 00:38:01.359
and like do stuff on your laptop just bam so i had it set up for a while where

00:37:59.359 --> 00:38:04.400
i was using my laptop a lot more than i am now yeah and i

00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.760
got an ARM that was actually just a monitor ARM and then you get a plate on

00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.640
it that's a laptop cool yeah and then you over torque the tension and all that

00:38:09.359 --> 00:38:16.000
kind of stuff whatever it's fine and then you put the laptop on there so i could go away and use a laptop bring it

00:38:14.160 --> 00:38:19.520
home put it on the ARM and then just

00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.400
mouse and keyboard on my whole setup including the laptop which is super nice

00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:28.000
because you can drag and drop files with it you can even move stuff over really

00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:31.920
easily you can set up transfers hotkeys to move your mouse and keyboard over

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:37.280
it's it's wonderful so um it works across platforms so it's Linux

00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:41.520
mac and Windows and they offer a basic and pro option with one-time payment so

00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:46.560
head over to the link in the video description and or right there seamless

00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:50.000
dot com slash synergy slash that says minus 31 but i think the one

00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:58.160
i'm supposed to give you today is Linus 32 and say 50 on synergy today pretty huge

00:38:55.520 --> 00:39:01.440
that's a big discount someone in here said dual pc streaming

00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:05.359
works great yeah this would be pretty helpful for it yeah actually that's an

00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:09.920
interesting thought yeah um yeah that's a good that's a good idea one of the

00:39:06.560 --> 00:39:12.560
examples i always use is um

00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:16.240
uh what was it um

00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:20.560
right like coders yeah where you have like a development machine and then you also have like a

00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:26.640
gaming box next to it or whatever else yeah all right uh we got some more topics for

00:39:23.680 --> 00:39:31.359
you guys now so logitech was upset that i called their keycap

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:35.040
uh markings stickers in the uh what was it the g

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:38.240
hold on g whatever i i can't keep track of

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:42.640
logitech's naming scheme it was their wireless mechanical keyboard though

00:39:40.839 --> 00:39:46.079
g6 something

00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:50.960
it was g6 i mean i don't like their naming schemes

00:39:47.839 --> 00:39:51.920
logitech g613

00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:57.119
okay um i can't tell from that g602 is a

00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.920
mouse yeah i can't yeah i don't like it

00:39:59.040 --> 00:40:05.359
so i don't know i don't know what to say i like i know

00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:10.640
it's not as cool because g for gaming whatever but i would like it if it was

00:40:07.359 --> 00:40:10.640
like h headphones

00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:28.400
and they have like their hs which is headset

00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:32.000
like hs100s if you go back Corsair started moving away from it though

00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:35.680
they've gone with like void pro yeah like what the heck is that i know

00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:39.920
what it is i know what it is but like if i was a consumer who wasn't super into

00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:43.200
this stuff what is it anyway so they were upset and i told them i would

00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:45.599
address it on the went so because we called them stickers

00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:50.400
and this okay so the key caps are textured

00:40:48.160 --> 00:40:54.800
abs plastic that are printed and treated with a uv coating this is a standard

00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:58.800
process they are not stickers um

00:40:55.680 --> 00:41:02.480
what we were complaining about was that

00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:07.280
dual shot would be better because it's a

00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:10.240
lot more durable and quite frankly

00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:15.359
it can be uv coated all you want and it can be or it can be treated and

00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.839
whatever coating helps it is still a sticker

00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:21.839
it's a good sticker

00:41:22.720 --> 00:41:29.280
but it is a thing that is stuck

00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:34.000
on top okay yeah like it's not a sticker it's not a

00:41:31.839 --> 00:41:38.640
sticker so what i want to say is look i'm sorry it was unfair to call it a

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:44.560
sticker it's not a sticker no but it isn't dual shot and as far as i'm

00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:46.880
concerned a 150 keyboard has dual shot

00:41:44.560 --> 00:41:52.480
keycaps so the wording was a little over inflammatory but the point stays the

00:41:48.560 --> 00:41:54.160
same yes yeah and their defense is that

00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.160
if your name is logitech you make a lot of different keyboards for the entire

00:41:55.520 --> 00:42:03.839
world in many different layouts and dual shot keycaps might not be feasible

00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:08.560
across you know some of these more niche layouts and or regions and you'll

00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:11.920
generate complaints if some of them are dual shot and some of them are not

00:42:10.560 --> 00:42:18.720
totally get it still don't care a 150 dollar keyboard should have dual

00:42:16.160 --> 00:42:21.920
shot keycaps and that like that sucks and that's a

00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:26.319
really annoying manufacturing thing and all that kind of stuff and i hear that but i would

00:42:24.319 --> 00:42:31.359
rather spend my 150 on a keyboard where i'm getting dualshock it's 150 us

00:42:28.839 --> 00:42:34.079
dollars a 200 canadian dollar keyboard that's a really expensive keyboard and

00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:38.480
it's wireless or whatever and that's great but i actually don't care it's a

00:42:36.560 --> 00:42:42.000
keyboard i would be i would be pretty not stoked about do you care about

00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:48.720
wireless keyboards um i like our i like uh RGB backlighting on

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:52.000
my keyboards believe it or not so so no then so no because batteries for now

00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:56.560
yeah yeah yeah um apparently if they had made it

00:42:54.640 --> 00:43:02.079
RGB backlit the battery life would be like a day instead of

00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:06.079
six months or whatever yeah yeah i'm not surprised see like i i just

00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:11.280
having less cables on your desk is nice but one of the easiest things to cable manage on

00:43:09.359 --> 00:43:14.960
your desk is your keyboard yeah especially in terms of permanent cable

00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:18.240
yes and no actually because it goes right into your monitor stand so a lot

00:43:16.560 --> 00:43:21.359
of time you have to like cross actually i'm going to disagree with you there i

00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:24.880
think the keyboard is one of the harder things some monitor stands have cable

00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:30.079
management slots some of them do not all very few that's true yes like monitor

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:34.640
makers have got to be some of the most oblivious out there when it comes to

00:43:32.319 --> 00:43:38.800
like building functionality into their product yeah so yeah

00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:43.760
but like i guess for my desk it's pretty easy because i have my mixer right there so i

00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:46.480
just pinched those cable runs in between the mixer and the monitor stand and they

00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:51.200
all just hold themselves that makes sense but like a lot of money not everyone will have that have like you

00:43:49.520 --> 00:43:57.359
know legs that come out like this right that can be annoying you might have to like go around the ones i'm thinking of

00:43:54.240 --> 00:43:58.319
their feet are up and they taper down

00:43:57.359 --> 00:44:04.000
like this you can put the cable right in there okay all right so that works there's

00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.599
there it's it's not that difficult to manage

00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:11.440
and i would rather like i understand that the battery life is going to be

00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.839
huge i would rather just never worry about it

00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:21.119
personally so doc swag posted on the forum the

00:44:16.319 --> 00:44:22.960
pixel 2 and the pixel 2 xl

00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:28.480
and this is a great little spec sheet wow fantastic um

00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:34.079
so basically better camera than before yep um spec wise it's a modern phone yep

00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:40.480
so it's exactly what you would expect pretty much four gigs RAM 64 128 gig

00:44:37.839 --> 00:44:44.319
um storage it's got pretty much the same battery life as the previous picks are

00:44:42.560 --> 00:44:50.160
pretty much the same battery capacity as the previous pixels give or take um dc

00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:53.119
ip3 screens that's pretty cool uh same

00:44:50.160 --> 00:44:58.079
resolutions as before except uh the xl it has a different aspect ratio

00:45:00.319 --> 00:45:05.920
okay no headphone jack is this a deal killer for you

00:45:04.720 --> 00:45:10.800
no really i don't listen to

00:45:09.040 --> 00:45:13.920
how interesting music on my like it's it's not a

00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:19.040
positive i disagree with it i don't like it it

00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:23.040
wouldn't deal kill the phone for me if that makes sense okay

00:45:21.359 --> 00:45:27.520
i don't listen to music on my headphones for my phone that often okay

00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:31.119
um because i know you're a pixel fan yeah

00:45:29.520 --> 00:45:36.240
and it's water resistant now which i know was one of the biggest that's a huge deal i'm missing wondering about

00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:40.400
this i'm hoping they fixed this it's cloth

00:45:37.359 --> 00:45:42.640
oh the uh the the the the ear piece the

00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:47.440
the earpiece grille on the pixel and pixel xl not the pixel 2 and pixel xl2

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:52.000
is cloth and people go in there and try to clean it and mine's like

00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:56.880
not looking that great because it like absorbs gunk

00:45:54.000 --> 00:46:00.640
over the year-ish that i've used it and you can't clean it because if you try to

00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:04.000
scrape it you'll rip the cloth and there's pictures of people that have

00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:07.920
done it it's so stupid there's a lot of like really weird stupid things that

00:46:06.160 --> 00:46:12.400
were overlooked that will hopefully have been fixed one of them is water resistance uh you've checked out the

00:46:10.319 --> 00:46:18.000
colors yeah like kind of blue just black or clearly white the names are weird um

00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:21.440
i i don't know i i kind of like the panda look

00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:26.880
yeah okay i think it looks alright i i think out of all of the phones the

00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:30.319
pixels are kind of boring

00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:33.680
if that makes sense like they're not sleek and sexy

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.359
they called the design iconic would you agree with that no oh

00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:41.920
well that's not very nice i don't think it's a bad thing necessarily i just

00:46:39.200 --> 00:46:46.160
think it's it's it doesn't stand out it's not iconic it's the like opposite

00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:49.920
of iconic um and there's glass on the back so

00:46:48.720 --> 00:46:54.000
everyone's probably just gonna want to skin it anyways

00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:58.319
so i don't know you know it's funny a lot of people

00:46:56.400 --> 00:47:01.280
a lot of people in the uh in the twitch chat not upset about no three and a half

00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:05.119
mil jack because my okay my thing is yeah they

00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:09.200
have all the adapters the main times that i use headphones on

00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:12.640
my phone is when i'm traveling and it's usually my active noise

00:47:11.200 --> 00:47:15.599
canceling headphones that have a carrying case that have

00:47:14.319 --> 00:47:21.040
their cable in the carrying case sure that i can just have the adapter in yeah

00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:24.560
like it's i i use headphones with my phone so little that it's not a big deal

00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:29.119
okay all the people who are upset are flipping the math out right now oh yeah

00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:34.480
because they are upset okay okay okay i got it i got it like in my car i use

00:47:31.040 --> 00:47:36.319
bluetooth you can buy bluetooth dongles

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.920
where you plug your like headphones or whatever into it and then it interfaces

00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:43.040
with your phone so you can turn your wired headphones into bluetooth

00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:48.960
headphones they're super cheap they're ridiculously cheap they work really well they hold charge

00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:52.720
for a really long time it's it's not that bad

00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:55.440
i don't like it i don't think it's worth it i think it's a bad design move i

00:47:54.319 --> 00:48:00.880
think it's not worth making the phone thinner at all because the phone doesn't need to be

00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:04.640
thinner i think it's very stupid it's not a deal

00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:08.240
breaker for me personally all right let's draw pull it baby

00:48:06.640 --> 00:48:12.400
we got people who want to straw pull okay just everybody stop everybody stop

00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:16.640
talking in the twitch chat so i can and i can totally understand

00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:20.720
why people would be upset straw hole straw pull it straw pull it um so i'm

00:48:19.040 --> 00:48:24.160
like i'm okay i used to carry my headphones loose in my pocket until i

00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.400
lost so many ear tips

00:48:26.240 --> 00:48:32.640
and broke a fair number of pairs of headphones and now i use a carrying case

00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:36.319
that has a little pocket in it that i keep my stupid

00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:41.839
lightning adapter which is the same carrying case i carry and now all of my

00:48:39.520 --> 00:48:46.720
head earbuds now i'll put a now i'll put a type c adapter in there too i guess

00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:53.040
yeah along with an extra ear tip and my non-microphone backup cable like

00:48:50.319 --> 00:48:56.240
i'm clearly working around this but it it is a bit of a pain in the butt for me

00:48:54.720 --> 00:49:02.400
because i'll go and i'll like pull them out and i'll be like oh right i'm using that phone

00:48:59.839 --> 00:49:06.079
that's a pretty nice use case i know i know and i think you also use headphones

00:49:04.319 --> 00:49:10.319
with your phone more than most i do every single day yeah every single day

00:49:08.319 --> 00:49:14.160
multiple times a day i use cell phones use case on top of niche yeah all right

00:49:12.720 --> 00:49:17.800
and it's still not game breaking for you right um

00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:26.800
i mean your favorite phone is your iphone isn't it yeah i like the iphone 8 best right now dump

00:49:24.640 --> 00:49:30.960
like it sucks i don't like it i would really prefer there was a jack there i

00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:35.920
do not care about the thickness that you lose by losing the jack but let's talk

00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:40.000
about niche people for a minute here i also

00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:45.040
still have an iphone 6 that i specifically have

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:49.599
so i can jack in and like

00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:53.920
like okay uh you know that i listen to um shows when i sleep

00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:57.440
so i specifically still own an iphone 6 so that i don't have to have an adapter

00:49:55.520 --> 00:50:00.160
slash i can charge it but didn't you also carry another phone for that

00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:03.520
earlier or was it an ipod or something yeah

00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:08.400
because they're off cycle because this one literally runs all night and the other one runs all day so i charge this

00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:12.720
one in the morning so you carry an old one anyway so i usually would be

00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:15.359
carrying an old phone anyway that's true this is true

00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:18.880
um not not that it moves your point at all

00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:23.040
i'm just saying you would have the phone anyways i would i would um

00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:29.440
so 66 percent of people that they were said that they were mad yep

00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:33.440
and that's not surprising and i know what is surprising though is that 34

00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:36.800
said they weren't mad weren't mad you also did it it wasn't surprising if 66

00:50:35.359 --> 00:50:41.040
said they were mad you didn't ask if it was a deal breaker

00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:45.440
because i would have said mad but it's not a deal breaker but it's not

00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:47.280
a deal breaker i would prefer to lose

00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:52.559
the headphone jack but gain water resistance and no longer have a stupid

00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:56.319
cloth thing there and have front facing speakers which are super cool all right

00:50:54.720 --> 00:51:00.400
and the squeeze thing i don't really care and like a few other things that

00:50:58.640 --> 00:51:03.599
are nice about the phone that i would trade the headphone jack for i think

00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.880
it's stupid i would love to have all of those things and a headphone jack

00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:12.720
because that makes way more freaking sense so i am mad um but it's yeah it

00:51:10.240 --> 00:51:16.960
would not deal break the phone for me so

00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:20.640
this is kind of crazy the last the last

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.640
net linked don't don't

00:51:21.680 --> 00:51:28.000
so for now

00:51:25.520 --> 00:51:31.839
it would appear as though the channel that uh

00:51:29.359 --> 00:51:37.119
luke and i both started our youtube careers on yep

00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:38.880
is um

00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:44.640
in limbo in limbo it would be the most the most

00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:48.640
kind word to probably use for it um

00:51:45.839 --> 00:51:54.160
so they haven't uploaded anything since three days ago

00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:57.760
when a video entitled x399 NVMe raid

00:51:54.160 --> 00:52:00.319
support dji local data mode

00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:02.800
no more net linked for now went up

00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.359
so most of the ncix tech tips team

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:12.640
is gone so that's was me at one point and was luke at one

00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:19.040
point and is not those people anymore yeah but was also wheels

00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:22.000
um then uh julia Anthony

00:52:19.040 --> 00:52:26.400
uh riley jack um

00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:28.319
who else am i thinking of here

00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:33.440
riley jack am i am i missing anyone was oh i mean

00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:37.839
uh barrett uh riley's riley's brother was esther was part of the team esther

00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:41.200
was part of the team at some point so of all of those people the people who are

00:52:39.839 --> 00:52:44.440
gone all of them

00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:53.599
there you go yeah that makes sense in in the last episode he did say that he's

00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.280
gonna be trying to make videos still

00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:59.119
sometimes um he was saying hopefully one a week but

00:52:58.160 --> 00:53:03.680
was like do not hold me to that so

00:53:01.359 --> 00:53:08.640
we'll see how that comes out so we'll go ahead and like i can maybe address some

00:53:05.839 --> 00:53:13.040
of the some of the comments here um you know

00:53:10.160 --> 00:53:15.839
rip me if LTT would ever go under uh don't worry we're not going anywhere

00:53:14.240 --> 00:53:21.760
we're good man yeah we're like super awesome and good yeah um

00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:24.640
so a lot of people seem to be wondering about

00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:27.520
how this could happen to a channel with lots of subscribers

00:53:26.319 --> 00:53:33.119
and actually like okay viewership yeah like

00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:37.599
you're never gonna do well on like mesh wi-fi or whatever but

00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:42.720
you know look the core stuff netlink is doing 60 100 000 views an episode

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:47.920
that's not bad um that's that should be sustainable for

00:53:45.520 --> 00:53:50.640
a team of a couple people yeah

00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:54.079
so people are asking like what happened so it

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:58.400
seems to have a lot more to do with decision business decisions being made

00:53:55.839 --> 00:54:01.760
by the parent company so i'm not going to comment on

00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:05.440
sort of uh see i don't want to comment on anything

00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:08.319
that i'm being told in confidence like i still know people there so i know stuff

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:12.400
that that like people don't i'll say really

00:54:11.040 --> 00:54:16.160
vague stuff then because i haven't talked to these people sure you can just

00:54:14.319 --> 00:54:20.880
you can just look at ncx and how they're doing right now um they're closing

00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:26.160
stores people have been um

00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:27.520
departed from the youtube channel uh you

00:54:26.160 --> 00:54:33.920
can see different i mean someone works here now that didn't

00:54:30.240 --> 00:54:34.880
before that used to work there um

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:40.000
yeah the writing's sort of on the wall

00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:43.119
and it seems to be going rather quickly that's all outside perspective haven't

00:54:41.680 --> 00:54:47.440
had conversations with anyone in the company's stuff

00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.599
so uh there you go it's an end of an era and i've got to say um

00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:56.319
it's pretty uh it's pretty sad for me actually because

00:54:53.680 --> 00:55:01.680
this was like kind of my baby um well like the store that you worked

00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:03.119
out of and i used to buy all of my sorry

00:55:01.680 --> 00:55:06.119
oh yeah um

00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:14.480
yeah so it's yeah it's it's kind of tough because this is something that like

00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:16.640
i started and put my heart and soul into

00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:22.960
and became like a part of my personal identity like this was what turned me

00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:26.480
into a youtuber yeah and to see it kind

00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:28.640
of go down like this um

00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:33.920
was really uh it's kind of sad actually because it was

00:55:31.040 --> 00:55:36.960
weird at first to no longer be a part of that team

00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:40.720
like the team making the ncx tech tips videos when you and i did it for so long

00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:46.800
yeah and then it's going to be even weirder having that not exist now

00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:53.440
people in twitch chat are saying that we should buy ncix

00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:57.119
yes that would be that would be um that would be a

00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.119
wow

00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:04.640
how how how how does this idea fail let me count

00:56:01.839 --> 00:56:04.640
the ways um

00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:12.000
fail so hard buying failing companies is like a sound

00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:16.640
decision yeah yeah buying companies clearly losing money is like good

00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:20.960
business you know people are asking like you know

00:56:18.720 --> 00:56:24.559
ltd's not going anywhere right and it is because we don't make

00:56:22.640 --> 00:56:29.440
decisions like that that

00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:32.960
is doing great just great actually

00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:36.799
um yeah i agree with that you know what though

00:56:35.359 --> 00:56:41.760
i would love to buy the channel someone in chat says hi ed oh

00:56:39.680 --> 00:56:47.040
i'd buy it oh that would be oh that would be weird

00:56:45.359 --> 00:56:50.160
i i would buy some of the people that come with it i'm not going to name any

00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:54.240
names but i wouldn't buy all of them besides no people come with it would you

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:59.599
rename it and just make it a tech news channel i think we could just call it

00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:00.960
like um we could just call it like nx

00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:06.240
tech tips or something like that we could just like change it a little bit yeah because it would be really weird

00:57:04.640 --> 00:57:09.920
keeping the ncx texture and we could just make it straight tech news yeah um

00:57:08.319 --> 00:57:14.799
just get rid of every format that wasn't net linked because i actually i liked the net

00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:18.160
linked format i would like i would see a net length thumbnail i'm surprised you

00:57:16.319 --> 00:57:21.200
like it but it is good they changed it a lot from what like if you look at the

00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:24.880
early ones they were trash like they changed it a lot they made it

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:29.680
more youtubey they made it more upbeat um they made it more fun um

00:57:27.839 --> 00:57:32.480
and you know i would see a thumbnail and be like oh yeah what's going on with

00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.000
that and i'd click it and like you know four minutes would pass it be like oh i just watched the whole video which

00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:41.280
doesn't happen a lot for me i don't watch a lot of youtube videos like i actually like

00:57:38.839 --> 00:57:43.520
netlinked um so

00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:46.960
soon ed um

00:57:45.040 --> 00:57:53.280
yeah so i would i wouldn't mind bringing back netlink but i'll tell you now that

00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:55.200
my relationship with ncix is

00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.119
not at the best it's been in the last 10 years

00:57:56.319 --> 00:58:02.480
and i don't even think for a fair offer they'd be interested in selling to me so

00:58:02.720 --> 00:58:08.400
i could be wrong i mean i could always reach out and be like yo

00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:12.720
you guys still want that channel i mean with how youtube treats

00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:17.839
subscribers and stuff right now it might not be too bad to just start

00:58:14.799 --> 00:58:20.079
another one um i think 1.1 mill has a

00:58:17.839 --> 00:58:23.359
value because you can build up a big subscriber base back to like

00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:26.240
getting notifications faster than you can like build a subscriber base from

00:58:25.040 --> 00:58:31.200
nothing yeah we wouldn't be building subscriber base for nothing though and i would also

00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:34.960
just be like i would be like taking back my baby no i know yeah that

00:58:33.680 --> 00:58:40.720
would be part of i know yeah i think that's probably most of it that's a big part of it yeah okay

00:58:37.839 --> 00:58:40.720
let me just put it that way

00:58:41.520 --> 00:58:47.440
but like i completely understand that if i had to and this i can comment on

00:58:45.839 --> 00:58:51.599
because i haven't really talked to anybody about it but if i had to guess

00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:54.799
rather than you know do something sensible with it

00:58:53.680 --> 00:58:59.760
they're just going to run it into the ground if i had to guess i would say they're

00:58:57.760 --> 00:59:03.680
just going to pull what tiger direct and new egg did before them they're going to

00:59:01.839 --> 00:59:06.880
having no concept

00:59:05.040 --> 00:59:10.240
of what made it good they're gonna bring in some random

00:59:08.640 --> 00:59:13.280
outsiders to

00:59:12.160 --> 00:59:18.640
try to make videos they're gonna have no idea why people

00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:23.760
watch videos they're gonna try to just sell stuff

00:59:20.240 --> 00:59:26.640
and it's gonna be a complete disaster um

00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:30.000
and it's gonna just crater i'm gonna have to like archive some of

00:59:28.640 --> 00:59:33.680
these old videos yeah look at like this do you remember

00:59:31.680 --> 00:59:36.720
doing this oh the uh ultimate water cooling guide part three where we had to

00:59:35.200 --> 00:59:40.559
like build the whole thing then tear the whole thing apart and then like build it

00:59:38.240 --> 00:59:44.960
again whatever that was awful i was like was that an all-night shoot i

00:59:43.040 --> 00:59:48.000
think that was like two online shoes i don't remember because there was part

00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:52.559
one two and three how many views does it have did at least get a lot of views it did really good for that time seven

00:59:50.720 --> 00:59:57.119
hundred and seventy eight thousand not bad yeah all right

00:59:54.480 --> 01:00:01.359
i think we got time for maybe one more topic

00:59:58.839 --> 01:00:03.920
um okay it's the Intel show apparently because i'm

01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:11.119
super super not stoked on this um posted by

01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:13.119
oh doesn't say who on the forum

01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:18.160
but like uh war stm this is just Intel will no

01:00:15.839 --> 01:00:23.680
longer be providing per-core turbo frequencies

01:00:20.720 --> 01:00:29.839
um making motherboard tuning impossible so you won't be able to alter your

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.839
overclocks per core

01:00:31.839 --> 01:00:38.319
so extremetech says when we queried Intel as to why they've decided to no

01:00:36.160 --> 01:00:42.000
longer officially disclose per core turbo frequencies they said we're no

01:00:40.319 --> 01:00:46.960
longer disclosing this level of detail as it is proprietary to Intel Intel only

01:00:44.799 --> 01:00:50.240
specifies processor frequencies for base and single core turbo in our processor

01:00:48.720 --> 01:00:53.599
marketing and technical collateral such as arc and not the multi-core turbo

01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:58.640
frequencies we're aligning communications to be consistent all turbo frequencies are opportunistic

01:00:57.200 --> 01:01:04.400
given their dependency on system configuration and workload bs

01:01:02.720 --> 01:01:09.200
pretty annoying basically what you're doing is you're

01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:12.799
making us go measure it yeah why why are you wasting our time

01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:16.319
this is like this is like apple not disclosing the capacity of their

01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:21.119
batteries that make someone take it apart it's like you're not concealing anything

01:01:19.680 --> 01:01:25.040
you're figured out you're just inconveniencing everybody it's not even

01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:29.760
no reason literally not even reverse engineering it's just trying something

01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:32.960
like it's it's not difficult to figure out i just can't even it's just

01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:35.520
extremely annoying for all of the consumers

01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:43.040
so yeah i guess that's all i really had to say about that i'm

01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:46.960
sort of surprised okay someone is posting salt in the chat i was surprised

01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:53.119
people weren't doing salt tips salt tips but did you see that uh clip

01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.720
no i i ate salt and it was a mistake i i

01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.480
didn't think it was going to be that bad because i was talking about like people

01:01:56.240 --> 01:02:01.839
being salty about something well there was like one of

01:01:59.839 --> 01:02:05.440
those big ones and i was like oh no no it wasn't like fully open or

01:02:03.520 --> 01:02:08.079
anything but like for a bit i was actually okay and i was gonna just keep

01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:13.680
going with the video and then it like hit me all at once it was pretty pretty bad because there's

01:02:11.040 --> 01:02:16.960
salts that you can eat like if you get like salt mixes and

01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:22.240
stuff you can have like what is the really small one a tablespoon

01:02:19.359 --> 01:02:28.160
yeah a teaspoon teaspoon yeah um i'm not very uh

01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:30.799
up with the whole etiquette thing aim's gone

01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.119
okay

01:02:35.040 --> 01:02:42.799
i'd be a lot more sad if this was uh msn

01:02:40.160 --> 01:02:46.079
yeah i was sad when this was msn there you go i like had a dream about

01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:50.240
msn like in the last three days i don't remember

01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:55.280
exactly when but man if it came back suddenly i would

01:02:52.640 --> 01:02:59.599
jump on that train so fast and then they would skypify the crap out of it and i

01:02:57.040 --> 01:03:06.000
would bail out so fast um

01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.000
edge is coming to iOS and Android

01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.359
cool

01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:17.599
i guess i can use that for like accounts that i don't want to have signed in on

01:03:15.200 --> 01:03:20.640
the other ones i don't know um i just used other browsers for that

01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:25.599
so it's fine and there's going to be another blackberry uh there's a huge thing on

01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:30.640
this that we haven't talked about at all yet oh right on like any platform oh wow

01:03:29.680 --> 01:03:35.119
we're doing it at the very end of the show when no one's watching holy crap we

01:03:32.799 --> 01:03:38.559
suck we're really it's it's funny because uh we're like in the advertising

01:03:37.359 --> 01:03:42.559
business and then when we need to advertise our own things we just suck at

01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:46.880
it i know we're not the greatest marketers um also known as like we often

01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:51.440
just don't market it anyway there's a blackberry phone that's coming oh cool

01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:55.760
um holy crap how have we not talked about

01:03:53.680 --> 01:03:59.440
this flow plane um

01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:03.599
kind of a big deal uh scrapyard wars is up people don't even believe me that

01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:07.200
it's there really yeah okay now hold on i got this i i will show the people like

01:04:05.680 --> 01:04:11.039
we don't have a trailer we had a trailer for the the like

01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:16.000
clean up vlogs we didn't get a trailer for scrapyard wars well we're like we

01:04:13.359 --> 01:04:20.799
had to delay it a bit so we're oh yeah it's a two-week window

01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:25.280
a two-week window uh long story oh long story essentially we have to yeah

01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:29.440
we could still have a trailer yeah but it would be too early

01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:34.640
yeah so no that no that makes sense but we'd have a trailer for a Floatplane uh

01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:38.880
yeah but we're gonna have it um uh it trust me it makes sense sure we

01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:43.280
don't wanna tease something two weeks in advance well we wanted to use it i'll

01:04:40.640 --> 01:04:47.599
take it on full plate no no but um i know i get it yeah we don't want to

01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:50.960
create again more salt than we have to i get it

01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:55.280
but it's there what do we got Techquickie bias lighting as fast as

01:04:53.680 --> 01:05:00.319
possible that's a good thumbnail it's pretty that is actually brilliant behind

01:04:57.200 --> 01:05:01.760
the scenes demolition vlog

01:05:00.319 --> 01:05:04.880
yay oh yeah we demolished our sets so that

01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:09.599
was a thing uh this was a simultaneous release the

01:05:06.799 --> 01:05:13.200
core i7 8700k so you guys have probably seen that

01:05:11.520 --> 01:05:17.359
the ultimate mega workstation got oh i think that was a simultaneous release as

01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:20.960
well because of um a cooler master case sponsorship

01:05:18.640 --> 01:05:24.079
trackball mouse review yeah logitech released a new trackball it's kind of

01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:28.799
neat yeah i wonder how well it's going to sell i have no idea probably not

01:05:26.640 --> 01:05:32.559
particularly amazingly yeah but like i'm sure they're prepared for that like i'm

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:36.880
sure it'll all be fine scrap yard wars heck yeah

01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:39.920
scrapyard war six part one sponsored by dbrand

01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:43.920
holy crap jay's two cents holy crap dmitry from

01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:49.680
hardware canucks holy crap hold on a second hold on a second i i

01:05:47.680 --> 01:05:53.359
got like a quick spoiler i got a quick spoiler

01:05:50.799 --> 01:05:57.440
uh holy crap you can hardly recognize Linus

01:05:54.799 --> 01:06:01.400
in this outfit how will anyone ever recognize him on

01:05:59.200 --> 01:06:06.799
the street he's going incognito i love the glasses wait for it

01:06:04.640 --> 01:06:14.240
it's coming and he's gone incognito Linus gone um so

01:06:11.359 --> 01:06:18.319
yeah it's 40 42 minutes of scrapyard wars greatness and the episodes are

01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:22.400
rolling out weekly on i think it's either saturdays or sundays so um yeah

01:06:20.720 --> 01:06:25.920
get signed up for flow plane if you guys want to be watching scrapyard wars right

01:06:24.720 --> 01:06:29.920
meow uh handy tech under 100 stuff for your

01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:34.720
stuff oh cool this is another one of those yep we are finally bringing back

01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:36.720
handicaps stuff for your stuff um

01:06:34.720 --> 01:06:41.359
this is a pretty cool product that is actually the size of this entire

01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:43.839
computer that contains a gtx 1080. oh

01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:48.319
yeah that's really small that's a 1080 for

01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:52.240
scale yeah yeah is that it is that the card right this is the 1080 right here

01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:55.680
wow yeah it's pretty cool um

01:06:53.280 --> 01:07:00.240
delitting a thousand dollar CPU is it worth the risk

01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:04.480
what would you put the risk at too hot for t a thousand dollars no no i mean

01:07:02.799 --> 01:07:09.680
like percentage-wise ah hard to say yeah um and last but not

01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:15.359
least the full RGB water cooling system even

01:07:12.720 --> 01:07:18.960
the fittings are RGB this is actually one of the better performing videos like

01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:23.599
of all time oh wow d-litting did really well too yeah um

01:07:21.359 --> 01:07:28.559
this one too what does scroll lock do killed it on techwiki

01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:31.440
or killed it on a Floatplane

01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:35.359
so guys uh joe go join go join the plane go join the club it's

01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:40.240
not going to be called a club anymore no we gotta we gotta get out of the habit we don't don't join the club just get on

01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:43.039
the plane get on the plane just uh get your pilot's license just get on the

01:07:41.680 --> 01:07:47.920
plane man um so head over there it is three bucks

01:07:45.839 --> 01:07:51.039
a month we cannot promise that that pricing will remain

01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:56.160
after the launch um when it goes on to the other side we

01:07:53.200 --> 01:07:59.680
promise that it won't yeah it won't yeah so

01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:03.839
you should probably be on Floatplane before the site launches and we do not

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:11.039
intend to announce when the site will launch because we're big douches yeah

01:08:07.520 --> 01:08:12.640
we totally could but we won't yep

01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:15.680
so get on there all right guys thanks for tuning in to

01:08:14.319 --> 01:08:22.279
the WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel

01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:22.279
bye

01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:29.600
okay do you mind um yeah doing that also i haven't even ended the stream yet

01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:36.239
but i gotta go and finish shooting that thing with you okay i'm also gonna try to find a time for us are you still down

01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:37.120
yeah i'm just totally still down okay

01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:41.600
because i that we definitely haven't figured out a time yet oh yeah i'm sure there's i'm

01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:44.719
sure it'll be fine yeah probably like a 7 30 we can squish

01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:49.359
some fast food and then head over there fresh books that works for me yep cool

01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:54.000
synergy bye everyone i'm gonna reset this hung

01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:58.719
out outside of work in like probably like over a year so long

01:08:57.120 --> 01:09:01.759
no no last time was when you came over and we talked in the living room and

01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:08.000
then the time before that was when you came over and we rode out on world's most comfortable

01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:11.239
yeah it was like a year ago yeah

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.239
bye everyone