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okay it is when show time again

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it has been a very challenging three weeks so i was talking to um

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i don't know i was talking to a couple of people about it today because it was such an

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astonishing realization for me that i just had to share it with everybody

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um in the last three weeks i have spent only six out of 15 days

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working on our like daily content wow

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five days i was out for tech showdown yep three days i've been basically out for

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rog rig reboot yep and then one day i was out for ultrawide festival

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so you throw in a few wan shows yeah and i have actually had almost

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no time to work on like our normal content

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so on the one hand it's great that we're like getting any of it done

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so that's cool but on the other hand like i haven't actually gotten to goof around

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with tech in so long

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like i okay the kinds of projects that i have on the go right now okay i have a a

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threadripper uh ihs transplant to do so i want to put

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the vanity Linus tech tips one on a working chip nice yeah okay so

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yeah it's nice if i can ever do it i want to break out the old chiller oh i

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thought you're saying like these are things you're progressing and goes no i'm making no progress i want to go sub

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zero i want to do the final office update for the uh for the uh window tv

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okay yeah um you know what i should i should bring up

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trello i should have a look at all the other like crazy stuff that i'm supposed

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to be doing right i don't get to play with that kind of technology anymore but

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like um you need to change your handle man but

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xiaomi mi mix 2 yeah got to get my review done of that

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like look at the screen on this thing it's upside down well yeah wow but look

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at that the whole thing whole thing's a screen yeah basically yeah and that's

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cool software software is terrible software is terrible um

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software needs some work um i don't get to play with that kind of tech but uh

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boiler i'm not gonna say your whole handle you need to figure out someone else dude um has been like contributing

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to the sales open source which is super cool and some cool things have happened

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this week we had that meeting thing which i'm sure didn't help at all with

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your being able to work on uh yeah content stuff but Floatplane

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Floatplane progress right yeah yeah

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hopefully dude if you're out there take the job

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come work with us yeah that would be great we uh we need

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we need skilled developers

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yeah um yeah other cool stuff most insane SSD set up so six 960 pros

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running in raid zero nice on Threadripper nice like actually that one

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progress is being made because ivan's working on it but anyway the point is i

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think the most insane SSD setup is actually when that guy tied together

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like 50 of them like six years ago

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so i'm just saying i'm just saying like you might have used

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newer technology but like you said SSD

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anyways for news this week we have a bunch of different stuff one ncx tech

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tips is like gone it's in limbo that's for sure for

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pentiums it's super dumb it's like the dumbest

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thing ever yeah and uh oh right we'll roll the

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it's interesting because we have a few pieces of Intel news in here which has

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not been super common for a while because i've been AMD but it's like not

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good stuff um

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you know i actually probably want to talk about that

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because yeah actually you know what yeah i do

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have some i do have some stuff to say about that are you gonna talk about this by the way um yeah i will okay

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uh oh yeah yeah sorry max i'll i'll do that for you i totally forgot i remoted

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into my computer and then i just didn't do it i tried unlocking your computer

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nope my computer uses a real password

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yup unlike everything else

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um sorry guys hold on a second

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okay i just saved a v3 and you're good okay

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you know what why don't we why don't we tackle

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let's do the dumb Intel news first and then let's do the dumb cool dumb

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reaction to Intel news because like honestly i was pretty um

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certain aspects of coffee lake and the launch and our

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review of it okay um because i haven't looked into this it was it was

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pretty dumb uh so numlock21 posted on the forum the original article here is

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from tech powerup and

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twitch right now rats hold on

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oh oh yes ah yes

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wait why okay so it's all part of like

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an overarching stupid thing hold on i'm just gonna turn the apertures uh more

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sorry one second guys this is kind of silly

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marketing or like product naming or whatever that position

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did the unthinkable they managed to make Intel's naming

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scheme worse it's impressive you know like to give

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for a consumer okay like i'm not talking about you know xeon or itanium

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a code name Intel's code names are so good yeah a lot of the time sometimes

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they're dumb skull trails that was so cool bone tram oh my god i mean even

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stuff like alpine ridge yeah like that's pretty cool be like yeah i want like an

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Intel alpine ridge hell yeah that's a Thunderbolt controller by the way it

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ended up i mean even Thunderbolt has a cool name but on the CPU side okay so

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bad go way back in the day it was like the 286 and the 386 and the 486 and all

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that made sense i know there are numbers but people remember that you got your generation and you got your your

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instruction set okay x86 pretty straightforward

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pentium and you know what not bad maybe

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part of it is that pentium has basically existed since i've like had a computer

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well no actually that's not true we had a uh 386 that we then upgraded to a 40 i

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can understand that change though you're going to be wrong slightly less ultra

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hardcore yeah you're going you're you're and then you and then you go generations of pentium

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was a dual core yeah but yeah but then you're like you're

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backed into a corner because what are you going to call that what are you going to call the next

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generation you would have to call it the core 2 2. do you remember core 2 quad

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though yes core 2 duo core 2 quad so you

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bad no and then you got these indecipherable

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numbers at the end of them and in Intel's defense there is a legend on

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their site for how to decipher them yeah but you know many of the numbers like

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never ended up getting incremented at all so they might as well have just

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not had them and Intel plants out their product road

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maps so far in advance like do they really need to leave

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need to use it like they did they never do it

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continuation of something that's been established over the last 10 years if

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you want to show off how ridiculous this is just show our Intel naming videos on

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techwiki yeah i think it's got like six million views

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like what is uh uh what is core i7

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yeah hold on here we'll bring this up uh seven million like it keeps on

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trucking this one what is a core i3 core i5 and core i7 as

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fast as possible seven million freaking views all right what's the core i9

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that's got a million since three months ago like people like i clearly understand it a little

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better now than they used to but at least core i9 had the advantage of

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continuity and sort of people aren't shopping for it as much

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it's too expensive and the other issue too though is that they did kind of

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screw it up because if core i9 had simply been high-end desktop

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yeah then sure but they've got core i7s

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and oh man 7740 k or x is it an x i can't even remember

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they were super dumb when x 299 launched

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7740x you would only be buying one of those if you were just a complete idiot

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something because coffee lake is overclocking pretty well five gigahertz

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it looks pretty attainable and not just for like people who are sorting through

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trays of cpus so that's pretty cool anyway coming back to pentium so they brought

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back the pentium brand um after having gotten rid of it for many years and they

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like that feels a little bit like uh it's kind of sad yeah it's like reusing

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what used to be like top of the line like cream of the cream and like going

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for like a nostalgia sale to someone who like i guess in the sense it's like it's

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if it's competitive with Intel's like old cpus like

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upgrade right maybe that was the rationale i don't know

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like a super super mainstream product

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young people fx used to be a thousand dollars yeah

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period you didn't buy an fx for less than a thousand dollars that was it it was it's

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cream of the cream and then they brought back fx as like

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stuff we had sounds cool so it might sell some stuff

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back to gold as far as i can tell Intel

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according to this bronze silver gold platinum

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naming scheme and it makes

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to see if anything changed when they did that no of course not oh i know but like

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confusing because again Intel's server products

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the product names were a little confusing like uh something like like a

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2687w but like you need such specific things

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yeah it doesn't really matter if it's confusing you're going to arc them all anyway and if you know what a w is a w

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is like a high power workstation chip then you'd know it's not going to have

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the same like max core count as the ones that are designed for um like tons of

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it's probably got a higher TDP like you could kind of piece it together if you were somewhat familiar with the lineup

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now like a gold could be a high performance skew that fits in this

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socket or that one or like this dual platform one it has to do with like the

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raw performance but the features get left behind and so now we're just we're

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just like gonna just tack gold onto stuff

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like i just it's just frustrating

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so the name change comes with a refreshed case badge and a slightly

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modified box design and it'll be effective november 2nd

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2017. so basically gold which is

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i don't want to say always tacky but it's pretty much always tacky

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usually tacky unless it's a rank in a competitive video game it's tacky

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well now hold on golden black can look

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pretty good i mean as like a product naming thing oh oh yeah that no that

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like how dead is that like when's the last time anyone did like

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bronze silver gold you can use gold tastefully it just has to be used

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properly like remember when we were doing the support tiers on the forum

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which incidentally are bronze silver and gold we were talking about it i was just

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like you know what i just don't have time to think about this let's just do bronze silver and gold

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but like but Intel what's your excuse i think

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ours is also pretty easy there isn't any confusing like

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it doesn't actually follow the features it only follows raw performance like no

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there's really not much else you get yeah you

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your contribution that's ultimately what it is

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so not a better form everything happens in the bronze forum spoiler alert yeah

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there's a counting to 10 000 thread in the bronze forum and the silver and gold

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forums are pretty much cobwebs hey do you guys want to uh do you guys want to

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get some really cool insight into the way that youtube does or doesn't deliver

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video notifications to subscribers

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this is pretty cool so hold on i'm actually going to load up another

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another tab here to give you guys some context for this this is pretty cool and

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i have some i have some good Intel news in in a moment here but um

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surprisingly a lot of people said no

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about what wanting to see this really there was definitely quite a few

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people who said yes as well but okay well whatever it's cool you'll like it

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sitting at 690 000 views and in the first hour it did about 84 000 followed

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by 72 000. this is a weird launch time so this dk curve looks a little bit

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different than it normally would but it's also not totally atypical yeah

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all right so in the last 60 minutes

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there goes a fly it did about 3 400 views oh you guys can't see that

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whatever that you take my word for it 3 400 views or so okay

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so youtube's algorithm is

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so i don't use the word smart damn but what

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about targeting content that it

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it thinks might be me trying to use my

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subscriber base as a way to communicate with the people that

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watch Linus tech tips it's so sensitive to that that check

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this out the WAN Show and stream announcement video

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i specifically uploaded at the same ish time every week with the same title

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every week and youtube's algorithm has got this thing crushed to the point

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where in the first hour

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it is probably gonna do like

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let's see we're only doing about a hundred and seven of an hour i think yeah something along

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those lines it has only managed to do about 3600 views in the last 20 minutes

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or so pretty crazy that's nuts so you see

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okay this is an extreme example and this is something where you know what

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quite honestly i could name it something else and that would

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help more people get notifications for it

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but intentionally i'm feeding into the algorithm here allowing the algorithm to

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take the people who aren't interested in WAN Show and just not pump them a

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notification like i'm okay with that because we just do it because we've

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always done it and if it boosts the live viewers a little

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bit then like great they know we're live that's cool for the people that do rely

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on that notification if we don't put it up some people do miss the lan show

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um but what this is this is also a fair amount of this to be clear um yeah i'm

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glad max won in the chat said i see the youtube video i ignore it and i hit the

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twitch bookmark so that might be part of why it gets buried either way either but but that's

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one of the reasons that we we continue to do it just in case people are relying

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on it yeah um but this is an extreme example of the way that youtube does

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manipulate the way that it uh the way that it propagates new video information

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to someone who is subscribed um

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and it's uh it's one of those things that's frustrating it's one of the reasons that we're we're starting float

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plane and i was just kind of inspired to talk about it for some

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reason i don't remember why anymore but we can we can move on to our next topic

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um all right so i was a little i was actually a

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little disappointed in our in our viewers reaction to the coffee

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lake video um

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like there was an astonishing amount of

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ignorance in some of the comments uh with respect

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to how um how we would have manipulated what

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benchmarks we used like and like the problem is that the arguments just don't

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even make any sense like someone was upset that we didn't

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include the ryzen 7 1800x

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um as though we were trying to conceal AMD's superiority

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and we didn't want AMD to seem like a better value the 1800x is not a very

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good value the best value ryzen 7 is the 1700.

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um this 1800x is what like 200 megahertz

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higher than the 1700x

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why uh how how would that hurt AMD's value prop

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to throw in a processor that costs a hundred dollars more and clock 200

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megahertz higher how how are we hurting AMD's appearance of value by choosing

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one of their chips that is a better value um now one thing that we didn't

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discuss in our video and honestly the funny thing is this like barely even

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came up people are so fixated on um

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you know comparisons that they don't like or and or don't understand or whatever

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else that they didn't even notice this one what we should have discussed was some

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of the differences in platform cost like the fact that a b350 board is cheaper

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than a z370 board um

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but just the number of people that are like when we release a video that's positive

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about Intel they're like wow you guys sure changed your tune so

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fast about being sponsored by them no

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we changed our tune because they released a different product

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that's different than the one we said we didn't like

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it's it's called it's called looking at what's in front of you

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and evaluating it instead of just going in having already

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decided the answer um

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yeah yeah is it like is it as bad as the um

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oh my god they didn't benchmark with uh

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wow why i can't think of the neighbor right now right now future of opengl

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vulcan um yeah hard to say

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hard to say but anyway

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yeah apparently we're doing damage control over Intel forcing customers to

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buy a new motherboard on the same socket i wonder how much Intel paid him for

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this nothing nice so

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the way that that radar 10 out of 10 comments and

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unfortunately i can't get anyone to go on the record about it

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so i can't say who my source is but what happened was Intel designed their

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platform for two generations of cpus the same way they have for the last 10 years

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that's how it went that's how it goes down you cannot like it and that's

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totally cool and i totally get it um but they designed it for two

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generations they did not design it for a

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six core processor and there were physical things that were redesigned

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could Intel have made it work

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off the record i've got indications that they might

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have been able to in fact probably could have

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but would it have been a janky solution that might not have had the reliability

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that Intel is known for in all likelihood yes

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so was this partially a marketing decision

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possibly personally i'm pretty annoyed that a

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z370 for example cannot hold a sky lake or a kaby lake

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chip but i totally understand why Intel

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wouldn't want to put their stellar reputation for reliability on the line

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by allowing you to put a new coffee lake chip in your z270 board without having

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fully validated it and here's another thing you guys have to understand

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just because Intel has a spec and just because like

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it should work doesn't mean that every motherboard

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manufacturer out there built properly to the spec

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it doesn't mean that every skew will work

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and when you're someone like Intel if you say it's going to work

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it is supposed to work yeah and like

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building to spec uh a lot of the times you make product differentiation by

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finding ways to not build to spec you end up making a lot more people mad by

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trying to accommodate them sometimes than you do by just going nope forget it

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it doesn't work because something that you guys are probably missing here you

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look at the motivation you go well it's probably money grubbing so let's look at

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something like Intel optane which they opted

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um which they opted to support on only

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z270 was it if i recall correctly uh

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octane wilson's have been on when that was painful yeah i'm sorry

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um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

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obtain i'm looking to upgrade upgrades essentially an m.2 i want to know if not

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like i lost my pun tolerance okay i i think it i think it is uh i

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think it is only 200 series

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hold on there's a there's a thing on puget obtain

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yeah okay cool so it's only supported on z270 so the reason for that it's just an

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m.2 stick that's all it is it's an SSD

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using the m.2 standard so feasibly Intel

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could have supported it on z170 and a lot of people might look at this and go

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well their motivation must be money grubbing they just want me to run out

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and buy a new motherboard do you really think anyone at Intel is stupid enough

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to think that anybody's gonna go buy a new motherboard for optane

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if you had enough money to buy a new motherboard you would buy a boot SSD buy

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a dedicated SSD optane is a value solution

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it's not money grubbing if they were money grubbing

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they would shoehorn in the support

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not validate it fully and just let people buy it and if it works it works

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and if it doesn't it doesn't like ubisoft because the reason that they decided not

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to support it on z170 and this is i'm not going to quote my source this was

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kind of off the record i'm actually not even sure if i should be talking about it was that depending on the

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implementation and you got to remember this isn't just

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like enthusiasts you know gaming boards or whatever this is across

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the like dells and acers and lenovos of

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the world the implementation on z170 of

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m.2 might not have been up to snuff and they

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can't rely on these guys to roll out UEFI BIOS updates to build in the

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support because that would be required so it would end up being a very

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confusing message

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if they wanted to sell more units they would want a wider install base of

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supported products duh don't you think

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so anyway i'm not necessarily happy about

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everything they did here but you also have to understand that it's not always

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as simple as like they're bad people and they just want

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your money they do just want your money their business but also understand so

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does AMD so does NVIDIA none of them are your friends

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um right that was gonna bring us really

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well into the whole uh off spec thing why are people getting different coffee

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lake performance results so this was uh inspired by a tweet from jay's two cents

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and was originally posted on the forum by uh oh dang it there's no there's no

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who posted it on the forum thing james

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um was originally posted on the forum by

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oh man oh oh this was just a discussion in our

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own thread okay well fine fine james uh but here's jay's here's jay's tweet yep

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i showed that in twitch too cool so you can see that our number and jay's

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number are pretty close yep but then

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paul's is a chunk down and then kyle's is even further down from that and

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there's a lot of differentiation this is a significant difference like with us

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and jay sitting around the 1 50 range and paul and kyle being in uh four in

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the 1400s and 1200s

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so um one of the theories um and this

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was kyle's chip compared to jay's chip is almost a 300 point difference yep and

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that is it that is a massive huge difference in cinebench

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that's like you know one of your cores isn't working level of difference in

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cinebench so um i can't i can't believe he goes by

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gaben jr on the forum but um

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anyway Anthony from our team uh was talking about how gamers nexus

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had found that their Gigabyte board was giving them less voltage than specified

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and he was wondering if maybe ASUS did the same thing in the opposite direction to

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give us better results so

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it seems like there's a known issue that has to do with the boards not being

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fully tuned for coffee lake yet where the voltages being applied might be

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affecting performance so we actually have a review coming on the MSI vortex

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g25 where our original script um that i

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reviewed with alex a couple of days ago had this comment on how when we stress

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tested it it would run at four point whatever gigahertz turbo for like

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i don't know three seconds and then it would drop to like 3.2

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whoa so we got a new BIOS fixed

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so it looks like this launch might have been a little rushed now

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unfortunately we weren't able to comment on that in our coffee lake review

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because as a general rule we have made a habit

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of using only one particular brand of motherboard for our launch reviews

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because we have found that it means we're less likely to end up with a 1200

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point cinebench score when we were supposed to have 1550. wow interesting

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it's like that's paid off for us so far um

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but uh anyway um Anthony also said that one of his

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hunches is vrm throttling thanks to the lower specified voltages um

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and that could be affecting their CPU scores and it seemed like that would

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make perfect sense for something like what happened with that um with that uh

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pre-built machine yep anyway to be clear it's not like i'm

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crapping on MSI or Gigabyte or asrock or

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ASUS even it's not like they don't make mistakes they do

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they all do um but what it looks like might have happened with this launch is

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that it got it might have been kind of rushed if you're not making mistakes

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you're not trying hard enough yeah you're not go you're not going fast and

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frantically enough yeah type faster

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um so anyway it looks like that has a fair

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bit to do with uh with people's coffee lake results being kind of all over the

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place like even even some of ours were like we

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have some gaming results where coffee lake in spite of its faster clock speed

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and nearly identical architecture and more cash is getting beat by the 7700k

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in gaming and people look this is impossible these numbers are fake news

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it's like okay first of all you guys can't even decide what agenda i'm

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fighting for because if i was on Intel's side

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i sure as heck wouldn't be talking about how the new chip doesn't perform as well

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you're fast and loose just yeah whoever can handle the check faster yeah like

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like boom boom from minute to minute yeah yeah you know what when the mid

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it's friday when the mail delivery arrives

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i could be changing sides like that if your CPU box doesn't have a few hundreds

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in it you ain't getting a good review that's right figure it out um

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actually please don't do that so anyway it looks like it looks like that could

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be to do with something like a Windows scheduling issue

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which was one of the things that affected ryzen 7 performance back when

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it launched i mean am i saying that it's for sure that no

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but 12 threads is more to handle than eight and we already know from the past

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that hyper threading can affect gaming performance negatively

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so that might be one of the reasons that and we didn't get an 8600k i almost want

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to do a separate review of it because they are

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kneecapping the i5 like more every generation yeah

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the 8600k is a significantly slower chip

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unless you overclock it used to be what everyone purchased yeah and Intel has

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gradually tried to move people to i7 they've tried to brand

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the i7 better and apparently that's not enough so they are

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well i bet you that's part of the existence of i9 it's trying to be like i7 isn't the most

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expensive one that's an interesting thought because

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well actually i had never thought about this before either but when you go to the store the shampoo bottle example

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you know the like this is the way to expensive one this is the way too cheap one i'm gonna buy the one

465
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in the middle or if you take four of them i'm gonna buy the third one

466
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because it's like more value than really expensive one but i'm still getting a nice premium thing

467
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maybe that's some of the thought process there

468
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all right so oh you know what by the way people in the chat still doing the yes

469
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and no meme that's impressive i know we haven't even done it we should do a

470
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shirt yeah but now it's going to be too late i know it'll be like a month or two

471
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until we have the shirt it's our own dead meme yeah i said we should do a

472
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shirt like the day that thing started dead memes yes and then we didn't um

473
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508
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510
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511
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all right linusmediagroup.com we haven't updated this in so long it's so old

512
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our team let's see who's even on here

513
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:31,040
minus uh luke yeah we gotta get you uh

514
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gotta get you removed wow

515
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:41,599
hey i don't know i don't make the rules i don't make the rules man that's gonna be really weird

516
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,880
pella tyler max Anthony alex james

517
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uh ivan's not on here

518
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,320
um is Jake on here even oh yeah Jake's on here Jake's on here

519
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um i'm sure there's someone else we're missing Jake's like sort of an old

520
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number now i know right

521
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,880
he was before pella yeah

522
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,839
he once rode from victoria to san francisco i i didn't even uh i didn't

523
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:11,920
even know that like dude i also didn't know he had

524
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,359
never used a Windows computer before he started working here i wish he wasn't

525
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:19,040
physically broken because i'd like to go swimming with him

526
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:23,200
holy crap but he's physically broken right now oh he'll fix it how's he

527
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:26,960
broken right now just like shoulder and knee issues oh bummer probably from

528
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:31,359
doing stuff like biking from victoria to san francisco right yeah okay

529
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:37,400
in like a really short period of time i don't remember what it is but like he

530
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,400
got there really fast and then went back

531
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:43,839
like it's it's actually kind of amazing dude's super cool all right so synergy

532
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,680
allows you to solve the problem of having two keyboards and two mice it

533
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:52,240
allows you to solve lots of problems even like being able to throw your

534
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:57,359
laptop on your desk and being able to just like use your desktop peripherals

535
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:01,359
and like do stuff on your laptop just bam so i had it set up for a while where

536
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:04,400
i was using my laptop a lot more than i am now yeah and i

537
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,760
got an ARM that was actually just a monitor ARM and then you get a plate on

538
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:10,640
it that's a laptop cool yeah and then you over torque the tension and all that

539
00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:16,000
kind of stuff whatever it's fine and then you put the laptop on there so i could go away and use a laptop bring it

540
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,520
home put it on the ARM and then just

541
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:22,400
mouse and keyboard on my whole setup including the laptop which is super nice

542
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:28,000
because you can drag and drop files with it you can even move stuff over really

543
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:31,920
easily you can set up transfers hotkeys to move your mouse and keyboard over

544
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:37,280
it's it's wonderful so um it works across platforms so it's Linux

545
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:41,520
mac and Windows and they offer a basic and pro option with one-time payment so

546
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:46,560
head over to the link in the video description and or right there seamless

547
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:50,000
dot com slash synergy slash that says minus 31 but i think the one

548
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:58,160
i'm supposed to give you today is Linus 32 and say 50 on synergy today pretty huge

549
00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:01,440
that's a big discount someone in here said dual pc streaming

550
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:05,359
works great yeah this would be pretty helpful for it yeah actually that's an

551
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:09,920
interesting thought yeah um yeah that's a good that's a good idea one of the

552
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:12,560
examples i always use is um

553
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:16,240
uh what was it um

554
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,560
right like coders yeah where you have like a development machine and then you also have like a

555
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:26,640
gaming box next to it or whatever else yeah all right uh we got some more topics for

556
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:31,359
you guys now so logitech was upset that i called their keycap

557
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:35,040
uh markings stickers in the uh what was it the g

558
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,240
hold on g whatever i i can't keep track of

559
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,640
logitech's naming scheme it was their wireless mechanical keyboard though

560
00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:46,079
g6 something

561
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:50,960
it was g6 i mean i don't like their naming schemes

562
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:51,920
logitech g613

563
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,119
okay um i can't tell from that g602 is a

564
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,920
mouse yeah i can't yeah i don't like it

565
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:05,359
so i don't know i don't know what to say i like i know

566
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:10,640
it's not as cool because g for gaming whatever but i would like it if it was

567
00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:10,640
like h headphones

568
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:28,400
and they have like their hs which is headset

569
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:32,000
like hs100s if you go back Corsair started moving away from it though

570
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:35,680
they've gone with like void pro yeah like what the heck is that i know

571
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:39,920
what it is i know what it is but like if i was a consumer who wasn't super into

572
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:43,200
this stuff what is it anyway so they were upset and i told them i would

573
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,599
address it on the went so because we called them stickers

574
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:50,400
and this okay so the key caps are textured

575
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:54,800
abs plastic that are printed and treated with a uv coating this is a standard

576
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:58,800
process they are not stickers um

577
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:02,480
what we were complaining about was that

578
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:07,280
dual shot would be better because it's a

579
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:10,240
lot more durable and quite frankly

580
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:15,359
it can be uv coated all you want and it can be or it can be treated and

581
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:17,839
whatever coating helps it is still a sticker

582
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,839
it's a good sticker

583
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:29,280
but it is a thing that is stuck

584
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:34,000
on top okay yeah like it's not a sticker it's not a

585
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:38,640
sticker so what i want to say is look i'm sorry it was unfair to call it a

586
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:44,560
sticker it's not a sticker no but it isn't dual shot and as far as i'm

587
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:46,880
concerned a 150 keyboard has dual shot

588
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:52,480
keycaps so the wording was a little over inflammatory but the point stays the

589
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:54,160
same yes yeah and their defense is that

590
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:58,160
if your name is logitech you make a lot of different keyboards for the entire

591
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:03,839
world in many different layouts and dual shot keycaps might not be feasible

592
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:08,560
across you know some of these more niche layouts and or regions and you'll

593
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:11,920
generate complaints if some of them are dual shot and some of them are not

594
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:18,720
totally get it still don't care a 150 dollar keyboard should have dual

595
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:21,920
shot keycaps and that like that sucks and that's a

596
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,319
really annoying manufacturing thing and all that kind of stuff and i hear that but i would

597
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:31,359
rather spend my 150 on a keyboard where i'm getting dualshock it's 150 us

598
00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:34,079
dollars a 200 canadian dollar keyboard that's a really expensive keyboard and

599
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:38,480
it's wireless or whatever and that's great but i actually don't care it's a

600
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:42,000
keyboard i would be i would be pretty not stoked about do you care about

601
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:48,720
wireless keyboards um i like our i like uh RGB backlighting on

602
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:52,000
my keyboards believe it or not so so no then so no because batteries for now

603
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:56,560
yeah yeah yeah um apparently if they had made it

604
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:02,079
RGB backlit the battery life would be like a day instead of

605
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:06,079
six months or whatever yeah yeah i'm not surprised see like i i just

606
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:11,280
having less cables on your desk is nice but one of the easiest things to cable manage on

607
00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:14,960
your desk is your keyboard yeah especially in terms of permanent cable

608
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:18,240
yes and no actually because it goes right into your monitor stand so a lot

609
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,359
of time you have to like cross actually i'm going to disagree with you there i

610
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,880
think the keyboard is one of the harder things some monitor stands have cable

611
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:30,079
management slots some of them do not all very few that's true yes like monitor

612
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,640
makers have got to be some of the most oblivious out there when it comes to

613
00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:38,800
like building functionality into their product yeah so yeah

614
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,760
but like i guess for my desk it's pretty easy because i have my mixer right there so i

615
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:46,480
just pinched those cable runs in between the mixer and the monitor stand and they

616
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,200
all just hold themselves that makes sense but like a lot of money not everyone will have that have like you

617
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:57,359
know legs that come out like this right that can be annoying you might have to like go around the ones i'm thinking of

618
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,319
their feet are up and they taper down

619
00:43:57,359 --> 00:44:04,000
like this you can put the cable right in there okay all right so that works there's

620
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:07,599
there it's it's not that difficult to manage

621
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,440
and i would rather like i understand that the battery life is going to be

622
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,839
huge i would rather just never worry about it

623
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:21,119
personally so doc swag posted on the forum the

624
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:22,960
pixel 2 and the pixel 2 xl

625
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:28,480
and this is a great little spec sheet wow fantastic um

626
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:34,079
so basically better camera than before yep um spec wise it's a modern phone yep

627
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:40,480
so it's exactly what you would expect pretty much four gigs RAM 64 128 gig

628
00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:44,319
um storage it's got pretty much the same battery life as the previous picks are

629
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:50,160
pretty much the same battery capacity as the previous pixels give or take um dc

630
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:53,119
ip3 screens that's pretty cool uh same

631
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:58,079
resolutions as before except uh the xl it has a different aspect ratio

632
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:05,920
okay no headphone jack is this a deal killer for you

633
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:10,800
no really i don't listen to

634
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,920
how interesting music on my like it's it's not a

635
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:19,040
positive i disagree with it i don't like it it

636
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:23,040
wouldn't deal kill the phone for me if that makes sense okay

637
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:27,520
i don't listen to music on my headphones for my phone that often okay

638
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:31,119
um because i know you're a pixel fan yeah

639
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:36,240
and it's water resistant now which i know was one of the biggest that's a huge deal i'm missing wondering about

640
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:40,400
this i'm hoping they fixed this it's cloth

641
00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:42,640
oh the uh the the the the ear piece the

642
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:47,440
the earpiece grille on the pixel and pixel xl not the pixel 2 and pixel xl2

643
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:52,000
is cloth and people go in there and try to clean it and mine's like

644
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:56,880
not looking that great because it like absorbs gunk

645
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,640
over the year-ish that i've used it and you can't clean it because if you try to

646
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,000
scrape it you'll rip the cloth and there's pictures of people that have

647
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,920
done it it's so stupid there's a lot of like really weird stupid things that

648
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:12,400
were overlooked that will hopefully have been fixed one of them is water resistance uh you've checked out the

649
00:46:10,319 --> 00:46:18,000
colors yeah like kind of blue just black or clearly white the names are weird um

650
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:21,440
i i don't know i i kind of like the panda look

651
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:26,880
yeah okay i think it looks alright i i think out of all of the phones the

652
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:30,319
pixels are kind of boring

653
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:33,680
if that makes sense like they're not sleek and sexy

654
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,359
they called the design iconic would you agree with that no oh

655
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,920
well that's not very nice i don't think it's a bad thing necessarily i just

656
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:46,160
think it's it's it doesn't stand out it's not iconic it's the like opposite

657
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,920
of iconic um and there's glass on the back so

658
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:54,000
everyone's probably just gonna want to skin it anyways

659
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:58,319
so i don't know you know it's funny a lot of people

660
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,280
a lot of people in the uh in the twitch chat not upset about no three and a half

661
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,119
mil jack because my okay my thing is yeah they

662
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:09,200
have all the adapters the main times that i use headphones on

663
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,640
my phone is when i'm traveling and it's usually my active noise

664
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,599
canceling headphones that have a carrying case that have

665
00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:21,040
their cable in the carrying case sure that i can just have the adapter in yeah

666
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,560
like it's i i use headphones with my phone so little that it's not a big deal

667
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:29,119
okay all the people who are upset are flipping the math out right now oh yeah

668
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:34,480
because they are upset okay okay okay i got it i got it like in my car i use

669
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,319
bluetooth you can buy bluetooth dongles

670
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,920
where you plug your like headphones or whatever into it and then it interfaces

671
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,040
with your phone so you can turn your wired headphones into bluetooth

672
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:48,960
headphones they're super cheap they're ridiculously cheap they work really well they hold charge

673
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,720
for a really long time it's it's not that bad

674
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,440
i don't like it i don't think it's worth it i think it's a bad design move i

675
00:47:54,319 --> 00:48:00,880
think it's not worth making the phone thinner at all because the phone doesn't need to be

676
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:04,640
thinner i think it's very stupid it's not a deal

677
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,240
breaker for me personally all right let's draw pull it baby

678
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,400
we got people who want to straw pull okay just everybody stop everybody stop

679
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:16,640
talking in the twitch chat so i can and i can totally understand

680
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,720
why people would be upset straw hole straw pull it straw pull it um so i'm

681
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,160
like i'm okay i used to carry my headphones loose in my pocket until i

682
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,400
lost so many ear tips

683
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:32,640
and broke a fair number of pairs of headphones and now i use a carrying case

684
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:36,319
that has a little pocket in it that i keep my stupid

685
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:41,839
lightning adapter which is the same carrying case i carry and now all of my

686
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:46,720
head earbuds now i'll put a now i'll put a type c adapter in there too i guess

687
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:53,040
yeah along with an extra ear tip and my non-microphone backup cable like

688
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:56,240
i'm clearly working around this but it it is a bit of a pain in the butt for me

689
00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:02,400
because i'll go and i'll like pull them out and i'll be like oh right i'm using that phone

690
00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:06,079
that's a pretty nice use case i know i know and i think you also use headphones

691
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:10,319
with your phone more than most i do every single day yeah every single day

692
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:14,160
multiple times a day i use cell phones use case on top of niche yeah all right

693
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:17,800
and it's still not game breaking for you right um

694
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:26,800
i mean your favorite phone is your iphone isn't it yeah i like the iphone 8 best right now dump

695
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:30,960
like it sucks i don't like it i would really prefer there was a jack there i

696
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:35,920
do not care about the thickness that you lose by losing the jack but let's talk

697
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:40,000
about niche people for a minute here i also

698
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:45,040
still have an iphone 6 that i specifically have

699
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:49,599
so i can jack in and like

700
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,920
like okay uh you know that i listen to um shows when i sleep

701
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:57,440
so i specifically still own an iphone 6 so that i don't have to have an adapter

702
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,160
slash i can charge it but didn't you also carry another phone for that

703
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,520
earlier or was it an ipod or something yeah

704
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:08,400
because they're off cycle because this one literally runs all night and the other one runs all day so i charge this

705
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,720
one in the morning so you carry an old one anyway so i usually would be

706
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:15,359
carrying an old phone anyway that's true this is true

707
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:18,880
um not not that it moves your point at all

708
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:23,040
i'm just saying you would have the phone anyways i would i would um

709
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:29,440
so 66 percent of people that they were said that they were mad yep

710
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,440
and that's not surprising and i know what is surprising though is that 34

711
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,800
said they weren't mad weren't mad you also did it it wasn't surprising if 66

712
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:41,040
said they were mad you didn't ask if it was a deal breaker

713
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:45,440
because i would have said mad but it's not a deal breaker but it's not

714
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:47,280
a deal breaker i would prefer to lose

715
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:52,559
the headphone jack but gain water resistance and no longer have a stupid

716
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:56,319
cloth thing there and have front facing speakers which are super cool all right

717
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:00,400
and the squeeze thing i don't really care and like a few other things that

718
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,599
are nice about the phone that i would trade the headphone jack for i think

719
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:06,880
it's stupid i would love to have all of those things and a headphone jack

720
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:12,720
because that makes way more freaking sense so i am mad um but it's yeah it

721
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:16,960
would not deal break the phone for me so

722
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:20,640
this is kind of crazy the last the last

723
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,640
net linked don't don't

724
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:28,000
so for now

725
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,839
it would appear as though the channel that uh

726
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:37,119
luke and i both started our youtube careers on yep

727
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,880
is um

728
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:44,640
in limbo in limbo it would be the most the most

729
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:48,640
kind word to probably use for it um

730
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:54,160
so they haven't uploaded anything since three days ago

731
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:57,760
when a video entitled x399 NVMe raid

732
00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:00,319
support dji local data mode

733
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,800
no more net linked for now went up

734
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,359
so most of the ncix tech tips team

735
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:12,640
is gone so that's was me at one point and was luke at one

736
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:19,040
point and is not those people anymore yeah but was also wheels

737
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:22,000
um then uh julia Anthony

738
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:26,400
uh riley jack um

739
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,319
who else am i thinking of here

740
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:33,440
riley jack am i am i missing anyone was oh i mean

741
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:37,839
uh barrett uh riley's riley's brother was esther was part of the team esther

742
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:41,200
was part of the team at some point so of all of those people the people who are

743
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:44,440
gone all of them

744
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:53,599
there you go yeah that makes sense in in the last episode he did say that he's

745
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,280
gonna be trying to make videos still

746
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:59,119
sometimes um he was saying hopefully one a week but

747
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,680
was like do not hold me to that so

748
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:08,640
we'll see how that comes out so we'll go ahead and like i can maybe address some

749
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:13,040
of the some of the comments here um you know

750
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:15,839
rip me if LTT would ever go under uh don't worry we're not going anywhere

751
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:21,760
we're good man yeah we're like super awesome and good yeah um

752
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,640
so a lot of people seem to be wondering about

753
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,520
how this could happen to a channel with lots of subscribers

754
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:33,119
and actually like okay viewership yeah like

755
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:37,599
you're never gonna do well on like mesh wi-fi or whatever but

756
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:42,720
you know look the core stuff netlink is doing 60 100 000 views an episode

757
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:47,920
that's not bad um that's that should be sustainable for

758
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,640
a team of a couple people yeah

759
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:54,079
so people are asking like what happened so it

760
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:58,400
seems to have a lot more to do with decision business decisions being made

761
00:53:55,839 --> 00:54:01,760
by the parent company so i'm not going to comment on

762
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,440
sort of uh see i don't want to comment on anything

763
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,319
that i'm being told in confidence like i still know people there so i know stuff

764
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,400
that that like people don't i'll say really

765
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,160
vague stuff then because i haven't talked to these people sure you can just

766
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:20,880
you can just look at ncx and how they're doing right now um they're closing

767
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:26,160
stores people have been um

768
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:27,520
departed from the youtube channel uh you

769
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:33,920
can see different i mean someone works here now that didn't

770
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,880
before that used to work there um

771
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:40,000
yeah the writing's sort of on the wall

772
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:43,119
and it seems to be going rather quickly that's all outside perspective haven't

773
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:47,440
had conversations with anyone in the company's stuff

774
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,599
so uh there you go it's an end of an era and i've got to say um

775
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:56,319
it's pretty uh it's pretty sad for me actually because

776
00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:01,680
this was like kind of my baby um well like the store that you worked

777
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:03,119
out of and i used to buy all of my sorry

778
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,119
oh yeah um

779
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:14,480
yeah so it's yeah it's it's kind of tough because this is something that like

780
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,640
i started and put my heart and soul into

781
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:22,960
and became like a part of my personal identity like this was what turned me

782
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:26,480
into a youtuber yeah and to see it kind

783
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:28,640
of go down like this um

784
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:33,920
was really uh it's kind of sad actually because it was

785
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,960
weird at first to no longer be a part of that team

786
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,720
like the team making the ncx tech tips videos when you and i did it for so long

787
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:46,800
yeah and then it's going to be even weirder having that not exist now

788
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:53,440
people in twitch chat are saying that we should buy ncix

789
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:57,119
yes that would be that would be um that would be a

790
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,119
wow

791
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:04,640
how how how how does this idea fail let me count

792
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:04,640
the ways um

793
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:12,000
fail so hard buying failing companies is like a sound

794
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:16,640
decision yeah yeah buying companies clearly losing money is like good

795
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:20,960
business you know people are asking like you know

796
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:24,559
ltd's not going anywhere right and it is because we don't make

797
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:29,440
decisions like that that

798
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:32,960
is doing great just great actually

799
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:36,799
um yeah i agree with that you know what though

800
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:41,760
i would love to buy the channel someone in chat says hi ed oh

801
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:47,040
i'd buy it oh that would be oh that would be weird

802
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:50,160
i i would buy some of the people that come with it i'm not going to name any

803
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:54,240
names but i wouldn't buy all of them besides no people come with it would you

804
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:59,599
rename it and just make it a tech news channel i think we could just call it

805
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,960
like um we could just call it like nx

806
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:06,240
tech tips or something like that we could just like change it a little bit yeah because it would be really weird

807
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:09,920
keeping the ncx texture and we could just make it straight tech news yeah um

808
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:14,799
just get rid of every format that wasn't net linked because i actually i liked the net

809
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:18,160
linked format i would like i would see a net length thumbnail i'm surprised you

810
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:21,200
like it but it is good they changed it a lot from what like if you look at the

811
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,880
early ones they were trash like they changed it a lot they made it

812
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,680
more youtubey they made it more upbeat um they made it more fun um

813
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:32,480
and you know i would see a thumbnail and be like oh yeah what's going on with

814
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:36,000
that and i'd click it and like you know four minutes would pass it be like oh i just watched the whole video which

815
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:41,280
doesn't happen a lot for me i don't watch a lot of youtube videos like i actually like

816
00:57:38,839 --> 00:57:43,520
netlinked um so

817
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,960
soon ed um

818
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:53,280
yeah so i would i wouldn't mind bringing back netlink but i'll tell you now that

819
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,200
my relationship with ncix is

820
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,119
not at the best it's been in the last 10 years

821
00:57:56,319 --> 00:58:02,480
and i don't even think for a fair offer they'd be interested in selling to me so

822
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:08,400
i could be wrong i mean i could always reach out and be like yo

823
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:12,720
you guys still want that channel i mean with how youtube treats

824
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:17,839
subscribers and stuff right now it might not be too bad to just start

825
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:20,079
another one um i think 1.1 mill has a

826
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:23,359
value because you can build up a big subscriber base back to like

827
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,240
getting notifications faster than you can like build a subscriber base from

828
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:31,200
nothing yeah we wouldn't be building subscriber base for nothing though and i would also

829
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,960
just be like i would be like taking back my baby no i know yeah that

830
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:40,720
would be part of i know yeah i think that's probably most of it that's a big part of it yeah okay

831
00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:40,720
let me just put it that way

832
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,440
but like i completely understand that if i had to and this i can comment on

833
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:51,599
because i haven't really talked to anybody about it but if i had to guess

834
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,799
rather than you know do something sensible with it

835
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:59,760
they're just going to run it into the ground if i had to guess i would say they're

836
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,680
just going to pull what tiger direct and new egg did before them they're going to

837
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:06,880
having no concept

838
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:10,240
of what made it good they're gonna bring in some random

839
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:13,280
outsiders to

840
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:18,640
try to make videos they're gonna have no idea why people

841
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:23,760
watch videos they're gonna try to just sell stuff

842
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:26,640
and it's gonna be a complete disaster um

843
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:30,000
and it's gonna just crater i'm gonna have to like archive some of

844
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,680
these old videos yeah look at like this do you remember

845
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,720
doing this oh the uh ultimate water cooling guide part three where we had to

846
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:40,559
like build the whole thing then tear the whole thing apart and then like build it

847
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:44,960
again whatever that was awful i was like was that an all-night shoot i

848
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,000
think that was like two online shoes i don't remember because there was part

849
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:52,559
one two and three how many views does it have did at least get a lot of views it did really good for that time seven

850
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:57,119
hundred and seventy eight thousand not bad yeah all right

851
00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:01,359
i think we got time for maybe one more topic

852
00:59:58,839 --> 01:00:03,920
um okay it's the Intel show apparently because i'm

853
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:11,119
super super not stoked on this um posted by

854
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:13,119
oh doesn't say who on the forum

855
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:18,160
but like uh war stm this is just Intel will no

856
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:23,680
longer be providing per-core turbo frequencies

857
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:29,839
um making motherboard tuning impossible so you won't be able to alter your

858
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,839
overclocks per core

859
01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:38,319
so extremetech says when we queried Intel as to why they've decided to no

860
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:42,000
longer officially disclose per core turbo frequencies they said we're no

861
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:46,960
longer disclosing this level of detail as it is proprietary to Intel Intel only

862
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:50,240
specifies processor frequencies for base and single core turbo in our processor

863
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,599
marketing and technical collateral such as arc and not the multi-core turbo

864
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:58,640
frequencies we're aligning communications to be consistent all turbo frequencies are opportunistic

865
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:04,400
given their dependency on system configuration and workload bs

866
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:09,200
pretty annoying basically what you're doing is you're

867
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:12,799
making us go measure it yeah why why are you wasting our time

868
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,319
this is like this is like apple not disclosing the capacity of their

869
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:21,119
batteries that make someone take it apart it's like you're not concealing anything

870
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,040
you're figured out you're just inconveniencing everybody it's not even

871
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:29,760
no reason literally not even reverse engineering it's just trying something

872
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:32,960
like it's it's not difficult to figure out i just can't even it's just

873
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,520
extremely annoying for all of the consumers

874
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:43,040
so yeah i guess that's all i really had to say about that i'm

875
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,960
sort of surprised okay someone is posting salt in the chat i was surprised

876
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:53,119
people weren't doing salt tips salt tips but did you see that uh clip

877
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,720
no i i ate salt and it was a mistake i i

878
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:58,480
didn't think it was going to be that bad because i was talking about like people

879
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,839
being salty about something well there was like one of

880
01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:05,440
those big ones and i was like oh no no it wasn't like fully open or

881
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,079
anything but like for a bit i was actually okay and i was gonna just keep

882
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:13,680
going with the video and then it like hit me all at once it was pretty pretty bad because there's

883
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:16,960
salts that you can eat like if you get like salt mixes and

884
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:22,240
stuff you can have like what is the really small one a tablespoon

885
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:28,160
yeah a teaspoon teaspoon yeah um i'm not very uh

886
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,799
up with the whole etiquette thing aim's gone

887
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:34,119
okay

888
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:42,799
i'd be a lot more sad if this was uh msn

889
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:46,079
yeah i was sad when this was msn there you go i like had a dream about

890
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:50,240
msn like in the last three days i don't remember

891
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:55,280
exactly when but man if it came back suddenly i would

892
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:59,599
jump on that train so fast and then they would skypify the crap out of it and i

893
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:06,000
would bail out so fast um

894
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,000
edge is coming to iOS and Android

895
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,359
cool

896
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,599
i guess i can use that for like accounts that i don't want to have signed in on

897
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:20,640
the other ones i don't know um i just used other browsers for that

898
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:25,599
so it's fine and there's going to be another blackberry uh there's a huge thing on

899
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:30,640
this that we haven't talked about at all yet oh right on like any platform oh wow

900
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:35,119
we're doing it at the very end of the show when no one's watching holy crap we

901
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:38,559
suck we're really it's it's funny because uh we're like in the advertising

902
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:42,559
business and then when we need to advertise our own things we just suck at

903
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:46,880
it i know we're not the greatest marketers um also known as like we often

904
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:51,440
just don't market it anyway there's a blackberry phone that's coming oh cool

905
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:55,760
um holy crap how have we not talked about

906
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,440
this flow plane um

907
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:03,599
kind of a big deal uh scrapyard wars is up people don't even believe me that

908
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:07,200
it's there really yeah okay now hold on i got this i i will show the people like

909
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:11,039
we don't have a trailer we had a trailer for the the like

910
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:16,000
clean up vlogs we didn't get a trailer for scrapyard wars well we're like we

911
01:04:13,359 --> 01:04:20,799
had to delay it a bit so we're oh yeah it's a two-week window

912
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:25,280
a two-week window uh long story oh long story essentially we have to yeah

913
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:29,440
we could still have a trailer yeah but it would be too early

914
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:34,640
yeah so no that no that makes sense but we'd have a trailer for a Floatplane uh

915
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:38,880
yeah but we're gonna have it um uh it trust me it makes sense sure we

916
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:43,280
don't wanna tease something two weeks in advance well we wanted to use it i'll

917
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:47,599
take it on full plate no no but um i know i get it yeah we don't want to

918
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:50,960
create again more salt than we have to i get it

919
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:55,280
but it's there what do we got Techquickie bias lighting as fast as

920
01:04:53,680 --> 01:05:00,319
possible that's a good thumbnail it's pretty that is actually brilliant behind

921
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,760
the scenes demolition vlog

922
01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:04,880
yay oh yeah we demolished our sets so that

923
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:09,599
was a thing uh this was a simultaneous release the

924
01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:13,200
core i7 8700k so you guys have probably seen that

925
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:17,359
the ultimate mega workstation got oh i think that was a simultaneous release as

926
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:20,960
well because of um a cooler master case sponsorship

927
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:24,079
trackball mouse review yeah logitech released a new trackball it's kind of

928
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:28,799
neat yeah i wonder how well it's going to sell i have no idea probably not

929
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:32,559
particularly amazingly yeah but like i'm sure they're prepared for that like i'm

930
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,880
sure it'll all be fine scrap yard wars heck yeah

931
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:39,920
scrapyard war six part one sponsored by dbrand

932
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,920
holy crap jay's two cents holy crap dmitry from

933
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:49,680
hardware canucks holy crap hold on a second hold on a second i i

934
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,359
got like a quick spoiler i got a quick spoiler

935
01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:57,440
uh holy crap you can hardly recognize Linus

936
01:05:54,799 --> 01:06:01,400
in this outfit how will anyone ever recognize him on

937
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:06,799
the street he's going incognito i love the glasses wait for it

938
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:14,240
it's coming and he's gone incognito Linus gone um so

939
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:18,319
yeah it's 40 42 minutes of scrapyard wars greatness and the episodes are

940
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:22,400
rolling out weekly on i think it's either saturdays or sundays so um yeah

941
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:25,920
get signed up for flow plane if you guys want to be watching scrapyard wars right

942
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,920
meow uh handy tech under 100 stuff for your

943
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:34,720
stuff oh cool this is another one of those yep we are finally bringing back

944
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:36,720
handicaps stuff for your stuff um

945
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:41,359
this is a pretty cool product that is actually the size of this entire

946
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:43,839
computer that contains a gtx 1080. oh

947
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:48,319
yeah that's really small that's a 1080 for

948
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:52,240
scale yeah yeah is that it is that the card right this is the 1080 right here

949
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:55,680
wow yeah it's pretty cool um

950
01:06:53,280 --> 01:07:00,240
delitting a thousand dollar CPU is it worth the risk

951
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:04,480
what would you put the risk at too hot for t a thousand dollars no no i mean

952
01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:09,680
like percentage-wise ah hard to say yeah um and last but not

953
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:15,359
least the full RGB water cooling system even

954
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:18,960
the fittings are RGB this is actually one of the better performing videos like

955
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:23,599
of all time oh wow d-litting did really well too yeah um

956
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:28,559
this one too what does scroll lock do killed it on techwiki

957
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:31,440
or killed it on a Floatplane

958
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:35,359
so guys uh joe go join go join the plane go join the club it's

959
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:40,240
not going to be called a club anymore no we gotta we gotta get out of the habit we don't don't join the club just get on

960
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:43,039
the plane get on the plane just uh get your pilot's license just get on the

961
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:47,920
plane man um so head over there it is three bucks

962
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:51,039
a month we cannot promise that that pricing will remain

963
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:56,160
after the launch um when it goes on to the other side we

964
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:59,680
promise that it won't yeah it won't yeah so

965
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:03,839
you should probably be on Floatplane before the site launches and we do not

966
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:11,039
intend to announce when the site will launch because we're big douches yeah

967
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:12,640
we totally could but we won't yep

968
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:15,680
so get on there all right guys thanks for tuning in to

969
01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:22,279
the WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel

970
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,279
bye

971
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:29,600
okay do you mind um yeah doing that also i haven't even ended the stream yet

972
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:36,239
but i gotta go and finish shooting that thing with you okay i'm also gonna try to find a time for us are you still down

973
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,120
yeah i'm just totally still down okay

974
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:41,600
because i that we definitely haven't figured out a time yet oh yeah i'm sure there's i'm

975
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,719
sure it'll be fine yeah probably like a 7 30 we can squish

976
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:49,359
some fast food and then head over there fresh books that works for me yep cool

977
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:54,000
synergy bye everyone i'm gonna reset this hung

978
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:58,719
out outside of work in like probably like over a year so long

979
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:01,759
no no last time was when you came over and we talked in the living room and

980
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:08,000
then the time before that was when you came over and we rode out on world's most comfortable

981
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:11,239
yeah it was like a year ago yeah

982
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,239
bye everyone
