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time to work on like our normal content so on the one hand it's great that we're like getting any of it done so that's cool but on the other hand like i haven't actually gotten to goof around with tech in so long like i okay the kinds of projects that i have on the go right now okay i have a a threadripper uh ihs transplant to do so i want to put the vanity Linus tech tips one on a working chip nice yeah okay so yeah it's nice if i can ever do it i want to break out the old chiller oh i thought you're saying like these are things you're progressing and goes no i'm making no progress i want to go sub zero i want to do the final office update for the uh for the uh window tv okay yeah um you know what i should i should bring up trello i should have a look at all the other like crazy stuff that i'm supposed to be doing right i don't get to play with that kind of technology anymore but like um you need to change your handle man but xiaomi mi mix 2 yeah got to get my review done of that like look at the screen on this thing it's upside down well yeah wow but look at that the whole thing whole thing's a screen yeah basically yeah and that's cool software software is terrible software is terrible um software needs some work um i don't get to play with that kind of tech but uh boiler i'm not gonna say your whole handle you need to figure out someone else dude um has been like contributing to the sales open source which is super cool and some cool things have happened this week we had that meeting thing which i'm sure didn't help at all with your being able to work on uh yeah content stuff but Floatplane Floatplane progress right yeah yeah hopefully dude if you're out there take the job come work with us yeah that would be great we uh we need we need skilled developers yeah um yeah other cool stuff most insane SSD set up so six 960 pros running in raid zero nice on Threadripper nice like actually that one progress is being made because ivan's working on it but anyway the point is i think the most insane SSD setup is actually when that guy tied together like 50 of them like six years ago so i'm just saying i'm just saying like you might have used newer technology but like you said SSD setup in general so like just saying anyways for news this week we have a bunch of different stuff one ncx tech tips is like gone it's in limbo that's for sure for now maybe coming back google announces the pixel 2 and pixel 2 xl uh and Intel is renaming their kaby lake pentiums it's super dumb it's like the dumbest thing ever yeah and uh oh right we'll roll the intro now it's interesting because we have a few pieces of Intel news in here which has not been super common for a while because i've been AMD but it's like not good stuff um you know i actually probably want to talk about that because yeah actually you know what yeah i do have some i do have some stuff to say about that are you gonna talk about this by the way um yeah i will okay um uh oh yeah yeah sorry max i'll i'll do that for you i totally forgot i remoted into my computer and then i just didn't do it i tried unlocking your computer nope my computer uses a real password yup unlike everything else um sorry guys hold on a second okay i just saved a v3 and you're good okay all right so you know what why don't we why don't we tackle let's do the dumb Intel news first and then let's do the dumb cool dumb reaction to Intel news because like honestly i was pretty um i was pretty frustrated with the community's reaction to certain aspects of coffee lake and the launch and our review of it okay um because i haven't looked into this it was it was pretty dumb uh so numlock21 posted on the forum the original article here is from tech powerup and twitch right now rats hold on um um um um yeah all right Intel to re-brand pentium as pentium gold oh oh oh yes ah yes wait why okay so it's all part of like an overarching stupid thing hold on i'm just gonna turn the apertures uh more but more open a bit one sec what i'm so confused is this only for the hot oh sorry one second guys this is kind of silly okay i think we just need it so low power low-power gemini lake socs will bear the pentium silver brand besides celeron is there pentium bronze i don't see a pentium bronze so there's pentium silver and pentium gold so basically as far as i can tell Intel hired some kind of new like senior vp of branding or marketing or like product naming or whatever that position is where you actually make the decision about what to call the product and they did the unthinkable they managed to make Intel's naming scheme worse it's impressive you know like to give them props yeah they found a way because they had the will they had Intel they were determined Intel hasn't named for a consumer okay like i'm not talking about you know xeon or itanium itanium sounds pretty cool the problem with sculptural is that it's a code name Intel's code names are so good yeah a lot of the time sometimes they're dumb skull trails that was so cool bone tram oh my god i mean even stuff like alpine ridge yeah like that's pretty cool be like yeah i want like an Intel alpine ridge hell yeah that's a Thunderbolt controller by the way it ended up i mean even Thunderbolt has a cool name but on the CPU side okay so bad go way back in the day it was like the 286 and the 386 and the 486 and all that made sense i know there are numbers but people remember that you got your generation and you got your your instruction set okay x86 pretty straightforward cool then they got to five and they were like no let's not do 586 let's go pentium and you know what not bad maybe part of it is that pentium has basically existed since i've like had a computer well no actually that's not true we had a uh 386 that we then upgraded to a 40 i can understand that change though you're going to be wrong slightly less ultra hardcore yeah you're going you're you're and then you and then you go generations of pentium okay and then celeron i was like yeah sure okay celeron why not then came core what if it was actually how many cores they had then sure yeah so if if a core two was a dual core yeah but yeah but then you're like you're backed into a corner because what are you going to call that what are you going to call the next generation you would have to call it the core 2 2. do you remember core 2 quad though yes core 2 duo core 2 quad so you would have to say i mean you still have to do it you would have to say yeah i've got an Intel core 2 duo dual core cp bad no and then you got these indecipherable numbers at the end of them and in Intel's defense there is a legend on their site for how to decipher them yeah but you know many of the numbers like never ended up getting incremented at all so they might as well have just not had them and Intel plants out their product road maps so far in advance like do they really need to leave you know like a 50 there just in case they need to use it like they did they never do it uh so anyway anyway so we've been stuck with core core i3 core i5 core i7 for a long time and then at least core i9 made sense in the sense that it was a a continuation of something that's been established over the last 10 years if you want to show off how ridiculous this is just show our Intel naming videos on techwiki yeah i think it's got like six million views like what is uh uh what is core i7 uh videos yeah hold on here we'll bring this up uh seven million like it keeps on trucking this one what is a core i3 core i5 and core i7 as fast as possible seven million freaking views all right what's the core i9 that's got a million since three months ago like people like i clearly understand it a little better now than they used to but at least core i9 had the advantage of continuity and sort of people aren't shopping for it as much it's too expensive and the other issue too though is that they did kind of screw it up because if core i9 had simply been high-end desktop yeah then sure but they've got core i7s and core i5s on the same platform and oh man 7740 k or x is it an x i can't even remember but whatever the like the kaby lake chips on x 299 they were super dumb when x 299 launched now they are like super super mega ultra dumb because now that coffee lake has launched 7740x you would only be buying one of those if you were just a complete idiot or you were a professional overclocker looking for like per core records or something because coffee lake is overclocking pretty well five gigahertz it looks pretty attainable and not just for like people who are sorting through trays of cpus so that's pretty cool anyway coming back to pentium so they brought back the pentium brand um after having gotten rid of it for many years and they assigned it to their cheapo products and i was kind of like like that feels a little bit like uh it's kind of sad yeah it's like reusing what used to be like top of the line like cream of the cream and like going for like a nostalgia sale to someone who like i guess in the sense it's like it's if it's competitive with Intel's like old cpus like you'd have to be running something old enough to be a pentium for it to be an upgrade right maybe that was the rationale i don't know um like at least they didn't at least they didn't pull an AMD where they brought back the fx branding oh for like a super super mainstream product because remember guys or maybe not remember like i'm gonna let you know young people fx used to be a thousand dollars yeah period you didn't buy an fx for less than a thousand dollars that was it it was it's cream of the cream and then they brought back fx as like super ultra mega rebranded stuff we had sounds cool so it might sell some stuff yeah exactly so anyway um back to gold as far as i can tell Intel brought in some kind of rebranding executive who renamed all these zeons according to this bronze silver gold platinum naming scheme and it makes no sense at all i'd love to see internal numbers to see if anything changed when they did that no of course not oh i know but like i would like to be able to represent my argument with facts and it's so confusing because again Intel's server products the product names were a little confusing like uh something like like a 2687w but like you need such specific things yeah it doesn't really matter if it's confusing you're going to arc them all anyway and if you know what a w is a w is like a high power workstation chip then you'd know it's not going to have the same like max core count as the ones that are designed for um like tons of virtualization or whatever else um and it's gonna have like higher boost clocks it's probably got a higher TDP like you could kind of piece it together if you were somewhat familiar with the lineup now like a gold could be a high performance skew that fits in this socket or that one or like this dual platform one it has to do with like the raw performance but the features get left behind and so now we're just we're just like gonna just tack gold onto stuff like i just it's just frustrating so the name change comes with a refreshed case badge and a slightly modified box design and it'll be effective november 2nd 2017. so basically gold which is i don't want to say always tacky but it's pretty much always tacky usually tacky unless it's a rank in a competitive video game it's tacky well now hold on golden black can look pretty good i mean as like a product naming thing oh oh yeah that no that like how dead is that like when's the last time anyone did like bronze silver gold you can use gold tastefully it just has to be used properly like remember when we were doing the support tiers on the forum which incidentally are bronze silver and gold we were talking about it i was just like you know what i just don't have time to think about this let's just do bronze silver and gold but like but Intel what's your excuse i think ours is also pretty easy there isn't any confusing like it doesn't actually follow the features it only follows raw performance like no there's really not much else you get yeah you get a different colored badge you get access to a better forum thank you for your contribution that's ultimately what it is so not a better form everything happens in the bronze forum spoiler alert yeah there's a counting to 10 000 thread in the bronze forum and the silver and gold forums are pretty much cobwebs hey do you guys want to uh do you guys want to get some really cool insight into the way that youtube does or doesn't deliver video notifications to subscribers this is pretty cool so hold on i'm actually going to load up another another tab here to give you guys some context for this this is pretty cool and i have some i have some good Intel news in in a moment here but um here let's go ahead let's bring up some analytics for this bad boy surprisingly a lot of people said no about what wanting to see this really there was definitely quite a few people who said yes as well but okay well whatever it's cool you'll like it so here's the dashboard for one of our recent releases so you can have a look at what a video might typically do in the first hour so this is our core i7 8700k review um sitting at 690 000 views and in the first hour it did about 84 000 followed by 72 000. this is a weird launch time so this dk curve looks a little bit different than it normally would but it's also not totally atypical yeah all right so in the last 60 minutes there goes a fly it did about 3 400 views oh you guys can't see that whatever that you take my word for it 3 400 views or so okay so youtube's algorithm is so i don't use the word smart damn but what i'll say is it is so aggressive about targeting content that it it thinks might be me trying to use my subscriber base as a way to communicate with the people that watch Linus tech tips it's so sensitive to that that check this out the WAN Show and stream announcement video i specifically uploaded at the same ish time every week with the same title every week and youtube's algorithm has got this thing crushed to the point where in the first hour it is probably gonna do like let's see we're only doing about a hundred and seven of an hour i think yeah something along those lines it has only managed to do about 3600 views in the last 20 minutes or so pretty crazy that's nuts so you see okay this is an extreme example and this is something where you know what quite honestly i could name it something else and that would help more people get notifications for it but intentionally i'm feeding into the algorithm here allowing the algorithm to take the people who aren't interested in WAN Show and just not pump them a notification like i'm okay with that because we just do it because we've always done it and if it boosts the live viewers a little bit then like great they know we're live that's cool for the people that do rely on that notification if we don't put it up some people do miss the lan show um but what this is this is also a fair amount of this to be clear um yeah i'm glad max won in the chat said i see the youtube video i ignore it and i hit the twitch bookmark so that might be part of why it gets buried either way either but but that's one of the reasons that we we continue to do it just in case people are relying on it yeah um but this is an extreme example of the way that youtube does manipulate the way that it uh the way that it propagates new video information to someone who is subscribed um and it's uh it's one of those things that's frustrating it's one of the reasons that we're we're starting Floatplane and i was just kind of inspired to talk about it for some reason i don't remember why anymore but we can we can move on to our next topic um all right so i was a little i was actually a little disappointed in our in our viewers reaction to the coffee lake video um like there was an astonishing amount of ignorance in some of the comments uh with respect to how um how we would have manipulated what benchmarks we used like and like the problem is that the arguments just don't even make any sense like someone was upset that we didn't include the ryzen 7 1800x um as though we were trying to conceal AMD's superiority and we didn't want AMD to seem like a better value the 1800x is not a very good value the best value ryzen 7 is the 1700. um this 1800x is what like 200 megahertz higher than the 1700x why uh how how would that hurt AMD's value prop to throw in a processor that costs a hundred dollars more and clock 200 megahertz higher how how are we hurting AMD's appearance of value by choosing one of their chips that is a better value um now one thing that we didn't discuss in our video and honestly the funny thing is this like barely even came up people are so fixated on um you know comparisons that they don't like or and or don't understand or whatever else that they didn't even notice this one what we should have discussed was some of the differences in platform cost like the fact that a b350 board is cheaper than a z370 board um but just the number of people that are like when we release a video that's positive about Intel they're like wow you guys sure changed your tune so fast about being sponsored by them no we changed our tune because they released a different product that's different than the one we said we didn't like it's it's called it's called looking at what's in front of you and evaluating it instead of just going in having already decided the answer um yeah yeah is it like is it as bad as the um oh my god they didn't benchmark with uh wow why i can't think of the neighbor right now right now future of opengl vulcan um yeah hard to say hard to say but anyway yeah apparently we're doing damage control over Intel forcing customers to buy a new motherboard on the same socket i wonder how much Intel paid him for this nothing nice so the way that that radar 10 out of 10 comments and unfortunately i can't get anyone to go on the record about it so i can't say who my source is but what happened was Intel designed their platform for two generations of cpus the same way they have for the last 10 years that's how it went that's how it goes down you cannot like it and that's totally cool and i totally get it um but they designed it for two generations they did not design it for a six core processor and there were physical things that were redesigned could Intel have made it work off the record i've got indications that they might have been able to in fact probably could have but would it have been a janky solution that might not have had the reliability that Intel is known for in all likelihood yes so was this partially a marketing decision possibly personally i'm pretty annoyed that a z370 for example cannot hold a sky lake or a kaby lake chip but i totally understand why Intel wouldn't want to put their stellar reputation for reliability on the line by allowing you to put a new coffee lake chip in your z270 board without having fully validated it and here's another thing you guys have to understand just because Intel has a spec and just because like it should work doesn't mean that every motherboard manufacturer out there built properly to the spec it doesn't mean that every skew will work and when you're someone like Intel if you say it's going to work it is supposed to work yeah and like building to spec uh a lot of the times you make product differentiation by finding ways to not build to spec you end up making a lot more people mad by trying to accommodate them sometimes than you do by just going nope forget it it doesn't work because something that you guys are probably missing here you look at the motivation you go well it's probably money grubbing so let's look at something like Intel optane which they opted um which they opted to support on only z270 was it if i recall correctly uh octane wilson's have been on when that was painful yeah i'm sorry um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah obtain i'm looking to upgrade upgrades essentially an m.2 i want to know if not like i lost my pun tolerance okay i i think it i think it is uh i think it is only 200 series hold on there's a there's a thing on puget obtain yeah okay cool so it's only supported on z270 so the reason for that it's just an m.2 stick that's all it is it's an SSD using the m.2 standard so feasibly Intel could have supported it on z170 and a lot of people might look at this and go well their motivation must be money grubbing they just want me to run out and buy a new motherboard do you really think anyone at Intel is stupid enough to think that anybody's gonna go buy a new motherboard for optane if you had enough money to buy a new motherboard you would buy a boot SSD buy a dedicated SSD optane is a value solution it's not money grubbing if they were money grubbing they would shoehorn in the support not validate it fully and just let people buy it and if it works it works and if it doesn't it doesn't like ubisoft because the reason that they decided not to support it on z170 and this is i'm not going to quote my source this was kind of off the record i'm actually not even sure if i should be talking about it was that depending on the implementation and you got to remember this isn't just like enthusiasts you know gaming boards or whatever this is across the like dells and acers and lenovos of the world the implementation on z170 of m.2 might not have been up to snuff and they can't rely on these guys to roll out UEFI BIOS updates to build in the support because that would be required so it would end up being a very confusing message if they wanted to sell more units they would want a wider install base of supported products duh don't you think so anyway i'm not necessarily happy about everything they did here but you also have to understand that it's not always as simple as like they're bad people and they just want your money they do just want your money their business but also understand so does AMD so does NVIDIA none of them are your friends um right that was gonna bring us really well into the whole uh off spec thing why are people getting different coffee lake performance results so this was uh inspired by a tweet from jay's two cents and was originally posted on the forum by uh oh dang it there's no there's no who posted it on the forum thing james um was originally posted on the forum by oh man oh oh this was just a discussion in our own thread okay well fine fine james uh but here's jay's here's jay's tweet yep i showed that in twitch too cool so you can see that our number and jay's number are pretty close yep but then paul's is a chunk down and then kyle's is even further down from that and there's a lot of differentiation this is a significant difference like with us and jay sitting around the 1 50 range and paul and kyle being in uh four in the 1400s and 1200s so um one of the theories um and this was kyle's chip compared to jay's chip is almost a 300 point difference yep and that is it that is a massive huge difference in cinebench that's like you know one of your cores isn't working level of difference in cinebench so um i can't i can't believe he goes by gaben jr on the forum but um anyway Anthony from our team uh was talking about how gamers nexus had found that their Gigabyte board was giving them less voltage than specified and he was wondering if maybe ASUS did the same thing in the opposite direction to give us better results so it seems like there's a known issue that has to do with the boards not being fully tuned for coffee lake yet where the voltages being applied might be affecting performance so we actually have a review coming on the MSI vortex g25 where our original script um that i reviewed with alex a couple of days ago had this comment on how when we stress tested it it would run at four point whatever gigahertz turbo for like i don't know three seconds and then it would drop to like 3.2 whoa so we got a new BIOS fixed so it looks like this launch might have been a little rushed now unfortunately we weren't able to comment on that in our coffee lake review because as a general rule we have made a habit of using only one particular brand of motherboard for our launch reviews because we have found that it means we're less likely to end up with a 1200 point cinebench score when we were supposed to have 1550. wow interesting it's like that's paid off for us so far um but uh anyway um Anthony also said that one of his hunches is vrm throttling thanks to the lower specified voltages um and that could be affecting their CPU scores and it seemed like that would make perfect sense for something like what happened with that um with that uh pre-built machine yep anyway to be clear it's not like i'm crapping on MSI or Gigabyte or asrock or ASUS even it's not like they don't make mistakes they do they all do um but what it looks like might have happened with this launch is that it got it might have been kind of rushed if you're not making mistakes you're not trying hard enough yeah you're not go you're not going fast and frantically enough yeah type faster um so anyway it looks like that has a fair bit to do with uh with people's coffee lake results being kind of all over the place like even even some of ours were like we have some gaming results where coffee lake in spite of its faster clock speed and nearly identical architecture and more cash is getting beat by the 7700k in gaming and people look this is impossible these numbers are fake news it's like okay first of all you guys can't even decide what agenda i'm fighting for because if i was on Intel's side i sure as heck wouldn't be talking about how the new chip doesn't perform as well you're fast and loose just yeah whoever can handle the check faster yeah like like boom boom from minute to minute yeah yeah you know what when the mid it's friday when the mail delivery arrives i could be changing sides like that if your CPU box doesn't have a few hundreds in it you ain't getting a good review that's right figure it out um actually please don't do that so anyway it looks like it looks like that could be to do with something like a Windows scheduling issue which was one of the things that affected ryzen 7 performance back when it launched i mean am i saying that it's for sure that no but 12 threads is more to handle than eight and we already know from the past that hyper threading can affect gaming performance negatively so that might be one of the reasons that and we didn't get an 8600k i almost want to do a separate review of it because they are kneecapping the i5 like more every generation yeah the 8600k is a significantly slower chip unless you overclock it used to be what everyone purchased yeah and Intel has gradually tried to move people to i7 they've tried to brand the i7 better and apparently that's not enough so they are well i bet you that's part of the existence of i9 it's trying to be like i7 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didn't know he had never used a Windows computer before he started working here i wish he wasn't physically broken because i'd like to go swimming with him holy crap but he's physically broken right now oh he'll fix it how's he broken right now just like shoulder and knee issues oh bummer probably from doing stuff like biking from victoria to san francisco right yeah okay in like a really short period of time i don't remember what it is but like he got there really fast and then went back like it's it's actually kind of amazing dude's super cool all right so synergy allows you to solve the problem of having two keyboards and two mice it allows you to solve lots of problems even like being able to throw your laptop on your desk and being able to just like use your desktop peripherals and like do stuff on your laptop just bam so i had it set up for a while where i was using my laptop a lot more than i am now yeah and i got an ARM that was actually just a monitor ARM and then you get a 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thought yeah um yeah that's a good that's a good idea one of the examples i always use is um uh what was it um right like coders yeah where you have like a development machine and then you also have like a gaming box next to it or whatever else yeah all right uh we got some more topics for you guys now so logitech was upset that i called their keycap uh markings stickers in the uh what was it the g hold on g whatever i i can't keep track of logitech's naming scheme it was their wireless mechanical keyboard though g6 something it was g6 i mean i don't like their naming schemes logitech g613 okay um i can't tell from that g602 is a mouse yeah i can't yeah i don't like it so i don't know i don't know what to say i like i know it's not as cool because g for gaming whatever but i would like it if it was like h headphones and they have like their hs which is headset like hs100s if you go back Corsair started moving away from it though they've gone with like void pro yeah like what the heck is that i know what it is i know what it is but like if i was a consumer who wasn't super into this stuff what is it anyway so they were upset and i told them i would address it on the went so because we called them stickers and this okay so the key caps are textured abs plastic that are printed and treated with a uv coating this is a standard process they are not stickers um what we were complaining about was that dual shot would be better because it's a lot more durable and quite frankly it can be uv coated all you want and it can be or it can be treated and whatever coating helps it is still a sticker it's a good sticker but it is a thing that is stuck on top okay yeah like it's not a sticker it's not a sticker so what i want to say is look i'm sorry it was unfair to call it a sticker it's not a sticker no but it isn't dual shot and as far as i'm concerned a 150 keyboard has dual shot keycaps so the wording was a little over inflammatory but the point stays the same yes yeah and their defense is that if your name is logitech you make a lot of different keyboards for the entire world in many different layouts and dual shot keycaps might not be feasible across you know some of these more niche layouts and or regions and you'll generate complaints if some of them are dual shot and some of them are not totally get it still don't care a 150 dollar keyboard should have dual shot keycaps and that like that sucks and that's a really annoying manufacturing thing and all that kind of stuff and i hear that but i would rather spend my 150 on a keyboard where i'm getting dualshock it's 150 us dollars a 200 canadian dollar keyboard that's a really expensive keyboard and it's wireless or whatever and that's great but i actually don't care it's a keyboard i would be i would be pretty not stoked about do you care about wireless keyboards um i like our i like uh RGB backlighting on my keyboards believe it or not so so no then so no because batteries for now yeah yeah yeah um apparently if they had made it RGB backlit the battery life would be like a day instead of six months or whatever yeah yeah i'm not surprised see like i i just having less cables on your desk is nice but one of the easiest things to cable manage on your desk is your keyboard yeah especially in terms of permanent cable yes and no actually because it goes right into your monitor stand so a lot of time you have to like cross actually i'm going to disagree with you there i think the keyboard is one of the harder things some monitor stands have cable management slots some of them do not all very few that's true yes like monitor makers have got to be some of the most oblivious out there when it comes to like building functionality into their product yeah so yeah but like i guess for my desk it's pretty easy because i have my mixer right there so i just pinched those cable runs in between the mixer and the monitor stand and they all just hold themselves that makes sense but like a lot of money not everyone will have that have like you know legs that come out like this right that can be annoying you might have to like go around the ones i'm thinking of their feet are up and they taper down like this you can put the cable right in there okay all right so that works there's there it's it's not that difficult to manage and i would rather like i understand that the battery life is going to be huge i would rather just never worry about it personally so doc swag posted on the forum the pixel 2 and the pixel 2 xl and this is a great little spec sheet wow fantastic um so basically better camera than before yep um spec wise it's a modern phone yep so it's exactly what you would expect pretty much four gigs RAM 64 128 gig um storage it's got pretty much the same battery life as the previous picks are pretty much the same battery capacity as the previous pixels give or take um dc ip3 screens that's pretty cool uh same resolutions as before except uh the xl it has a different aspect ratio okay no headphone jack is this a deal killer for you no really i don't listen to how interesting music on my like it's it's not a positive i disagree with it i don't like it it wouldn't deal kill the phone for me if that makes sense okay i don't listen to music on my headphones for my phone that often okay um because i know you're a pixel fan yeah and it's water resistant now which i know was one of the biggest that's a huge deal i'm missing wondering about this i'm hoping they fixed this it's cloth oh the uh the the the the ear piece the the earpiece grille on the pixel and pixel xl not the pixel 2 and pixel xl2 is cloth and people go in there and try to clean it and mine's like not looking that great because it like absorbs gunk over the year-ish that i've used it and you can't clean it because if you try to scrape it you'll rip the cloth and there's pictures of people that have done it it's so stupid there's a lot of like really weird stupid things that were overlooked that will hopefully have been fixed one of them is water resistance uh you've checked out the colors yeah like kind of blue just black or clearly white the names are weird um i i don't know i i kind of like the panda look yeah okay i think it looks alright i i think out of all of the phones the pixels are kind of boring if that makes sense like they're not sleek and sexy they called the design iconic would you agree with that no oh well that's not very nice i don't think it's a bad thing necessarily i just think it's it's it doesn't stand out it's not iconic it's the like opposite of iconic um and there's glass on the back so everyone's probably just gonna want to skin it anyways so i don't know you know it's funny a lot of people a lot of people in the uh in the twitch chat not upset about no three and a half mil jack because my okay my thing is yeah they have all the adapters the main times that i use headphones on my phone is when i'm traveling and it's usually my active noise canceling headphones that have a carrying case that have their cable in the carrying case sure that i can just have the adapter in yeah like it's i i use headphones with my phone so little that it's not a big deal okay all the people who are upset are flipping the math out right now oh yeah because they are upset okay okay okay i got it i got it like in my car i use bluetooth you can buy bluetooth dongles where you plug your like headphones or whatever into it and then it interfaces with your phone so you can turn your wired headphones into bluetooth headphones they're super cheap they're ridiculously cheap they work really well they hold charge for a really long time it's it's not that bad i don't like it i don't think it's worth it i think it's a bad design move i think it's not worth making the phone thinner at all because the phone doesn't need to be thinner i think it's very stupid it's not a deal breaker for me personally all right let's draw pull it baby we got people who want to straw pull okay just everybody stop everybody stop talking in the twitch chat so i can and i can totally understand why people would be upset straw hole straw pull it straw pull it um so i'm like i'm okay i used to carry my headphones loose in my pocket until i lost so many ear tips and broke a fair number of pairs of headphones and now i use a carrying case that has a little pocket in it that i keep my stupid lightning adapter which is the same carrying case i carry and now all of my head earbuds now i'll put a now i'll put a type c adapter in there too i guess yeah along with an extra ear tip and my non-microphone backup cable like i'm clearly working around this but it it is a bit of a pain in the butt for me because i'll go and i'll like pull them out and i'll be like oh right i'm using that phone that's a pretty nice use case i know i know and i think you also use headphones with your phone more than most i do every single day yeah every single day multiple times a day i use cell phones use case on top of niche yeah all right and it's still not game breaking for you right um i mean your favorite phone is your iphone isn't it yeah i like the iphone 8 best right now dump like it sucks i don't like it i would really prefer there was a jack there i do not care about the thickness that you lose by losing the jack but let's talk about niche people for a minute here i also still have an iphone 6 that i specifically have so i can jack in and like like okay uh you know that i listen to um shows when i sleep so i specifically still own an iphone 6 so that i don't have to have an adapter slash i can charge it but didn't you also carry another phone for that earlier or was it an ipod or something yeah because they're off cycle because this one literally runs all night and the other one runs all day so i charge this one in the morning so you carry an old one anyway so i usually would be carrying an old phone anyway that's true this is true um not not that it moves your point at all i'm just saying you would have the phone anyways i would i would um so 66 percent of people that they were said that they were mad yep and that's not surprising and i know what is surprising though is that 34 said they weren't mad weren't mad you also did it it wasn't surprising if 66 said they were mad you didn't ask if it was a deal breaker because i would have said mad but it's not a deal breaker but it's not a deal breaker i would prefer to lose the headphone jack but gain water resistance and no longer have a stupid cloth thing there and have front facing speakers which are super cool all right and the squeeze thing i don't really care and like a few other things that are nice about the phone that i would trade the headphone jack for i think it's stupid i would love to have all of those things and a headphone jack because that makes way more freaking sense so i am mad um but it's yeah it would not deal break the phone for me so this is kind of crazy the last the last net linked don't don't so for now it would appear as though the channel that uh luke and i both started our youtube careers on yep is um in limbo in limbo it would be the most the most kind word to probably use for it um so they haven't uploaded anything since three days ago when a video entitled x399 NVMe raid support dji local data mode no more net linked for now went up so most of the ncix tech tips team is gone so that's was me at one point and was luke at one point and is not those people anymore yeah but was also wheels um then uh julia Anthony uh riley jack um who else am i thinking of here riley jack am i am i missing anyone was oh i mean uh barrett uh riley's riley's brother was esther was part of the team esther was part of the team at some point so of all of those people the people who are gone all of them there you go yeah that makes sense in in the last episode he did say that he's gonna be trying to make videos still sometimes um he was saying hopefully one a week but was like do not hold me to that so we'll see how that comes out so we'll go ahead and like i can maybe address some of the some of the comments here um you know rip me if LTT would ever go under uh don't worry we're not going anywhere we're good man yeah we're like super awesome and good yeah um so a lot of people seem to be wondering about how this could happen to a channel with lots of subscribers and actually like okay viewership yeah like you're never gonna do well on like mesh wi-fi or whatever but you know look the core stuff netlink is doing 60 100 000 views an episode that's not bad um that's that should be sustainable for a team of a couple people yeah so people are asking like what happened so it seems to have a lot more to do with decision business decisions being made by the parent company so i'm not going to comment on sort of uh see i don't want to comment on anything that i'm being told in confidence like i still know people there so i know stuff that that like people don't i'll say really vague stuff then because i haven't talked to these people sure you can just you can just look at ncx and how they're doing right now um they're closing stores people have been um departed from the youtube channel uh you can see different i mean someone works here now that didn't before that used to work there um yeah the writing's sort of on the wall and it seems to be going rather quickly that's all outside perspective haven't had conversations with anyone in the company's stuff so uh there you go it's an end of an era and i've got to say um it's pretty uh it's pretty sad for me actually because this was like kind of my baby um well like the store that you worked out of and i used to buy all of my sorry oh yeah um yeah so it's yeah it's it's kind of tough because this is something that like i started and put my heart and soul into and became like a part of my personal identity like this was what turned me into a youtuber yeah and to see it kind of go down like this um was really uh it's kind of sad actually because it was weird at first to no longer be a part of that team like the team making the ncx tech tips videos when you and i did it for so long yeah and then it's going to be even weirder having that not exist now people in twitch chat are saying that we should buy ncix yes that would be that would be um that would be a wow how how how how does this idea fail let me count the ways um fail so hard buying failing companies is like a sound decision yeah yeah buying companies clearly losing money is like good business you know people are asking like you know ltd's not going anywhere right and it is because we don't make decisions like that that is doing great just great actually um yeah i agree with that you know what though i would love to buy the channel someone in chat says hi ed oh i'd buy it oh that would be oh that would be weird i i would buy some of the people that come with it i'm not going to name any names but i wouldn't buy all of them besides no people come with it would you rename it and just make it a tech news channel i think we could just call it like um we could just call it like nx tech tips or something like that we could just like change it a little bit yeah because it would be really weird keeping the ncx texture and we could just make it straight tech news yeah um just get rid of every format that wasn't net linked because i actually i liked the net linked format i would like i would see a net length thumbnail i'm surprised you like it but it is good they changed it a lot from what like if you look at the early ones they were trash like they changed it a lot they made it more youtubey they made it more upbeat um they made it more fun um and you know i would see a thumbnail and be like oh yeah what's going on with that and i'd click it and like you know four minutes would pass it be like oh i just watched the whole video which doesn't happen a lot for me i don't watch a lot of youtube videos like i actually like netlinked um so soon ed um yeah so i would i wouldn't mind bringing back netlink but i'll tell you now that my relationship with ncix is not at the best it's been in the last 10 years and i don't even think for a fair offer they'd be interested in selling to me so i could be wrong i mean i could always reach out and be like yo you guys still want that channel i mean with how youtube treats subscribers and stuff right now it might not be too bad to just start another one um i think 1.1 mill has a value because you can build up a big subscriber base back to like getting notifications faster than you can like build a subscriber base from nothing yeah we wouldn't be building subscriber base for nothing though and i would also just be like i would be like taking back my baby no i know yeah that would be part of i know yeah i think that's probably most of it that's a big part of it yeah okay let me just put it that way but like i completely understand that if i had to and this i can comment on because i haven't really talked to anybody about it but if i had to guess rather than you know do something sensible with it they're just going to run it into the ground if i had to guess i would say they're just going to pull what tiger direct and new egg did before them they're going to having no concept of what made it good they're gonna bring in some random outsiders to try to make videos they're gonna have no idea why people watch videos they're gonna try to just sell stuff and it's gonna be a complete disaster um and it's gonna just crater i'm gonna have to like archive some of these old videos yeah look at like this do you remember doing this oh the uh ultimate water cooling guide part three where we had to like build the whole thing then tear the whole thing apart and then like build it again whatever that was awful i was like was that an all-night shoot i think that was like two online shoes i don't remember because there was part one two and three how many views does it have did at least get a lot of views it did really good for that time seven hundred and seventy eight thousand not bad yeah all right i think we got time for maybe one more topic um okay it's the Intel show apparently because i'm super super not stoked on this um posted by oh doesn't say who on the forum but like uh war stm this is just Intel will no longer be providing per-core turbo frequencies um making motherboard tuning impossible so you won't be able to alter your overclocks per core so extremetech says when we queried Intel as to why they've decided to no longer officially disclose per core turbo frequencies they said we're no longer disclosing this level of detail as it is proprietary to Intel Intel only specifies processor frequencies for base and single core turbo in our processor marketing and technical collateral such as arc and not the multi-core turbo frequencies we're aligning communications to be consistent all turbo frequencies are opportunistic given their dependency on system configuration and workload bs pretty annoying basically what you're doing is you're making us go measure it yeah why why are you wasting our time this is like this is like apple not disclosing the capacity of their batteries that make someone take it apart it's like you're not concealing anything you're figured out you're just inconveniencing everybody it's not even no reason literally not even reverse engineering it's just trying something like it's it's not difficult to figure out i just can't even it's just extremely annoying for all of the consumers so yeah i guess that's all i really had to say about that i'm sort of surprised okay someone is posting salt in the chat i was surprised people weren't doing salt tips salt tips but did you see that uh clip no i i ate salt and it was a mistake i i didn't think it was going to be that bad because i was talking about like people being salty about something well there was like one of those big ones and i was like oh no no it wasn't like fully open or anything but like for a bit i was actually okay and i was gonna just keep going with the video and then it like hit me all at once it was pretty pretty bad because there's salts that you can eat like if you get like salt mixes and stuff you can have like what is the really small one a tablespoon yeah a teaspoon teaspoon yeah um i'm not very uh up with the whole etiquette thing aim's gone okay i'd be a lot more sad if this was uh msn yeah i was sad when this was msn there you go i like had a dream about msn like in the last three days i don't remember exactly when but man if it came back suddenly i would jump on that train so fast and then they would skypify the crap out of it and i would bail out so fast um edge is coming to iOS and Android cool i guess i can use that for like accounts that i don't want to have signed in on the other ones i don't know um i just used other browsers for that so it's fine and there's going to be another blackberry uh there's a huge thing on this that we haven't talked about at all yet oh right on like any platform oh wow we're doing it at the very end of the show when no one's watching holy crap we suck we're really it's it's funny because uh we're like in the advertising business and then when we need to advertise our own things we just suck at it i know we're not the greatest marketers um also known as like we often just don't market it anyway there's a blackberry phone that's coming oh cool um holy crap how have we not talked about this flow plane um kind of a big deal uh scrapyard wars is up people don't even believe me that it's there really yeah okay now hold on i got this i i will show the people like we don't have a trailer we had a trailer for the the like clean up vlogs we didn't get a trailer for scrapyard wars well we're like we had to delay it a bit so we're oh yeah it's a two-week window a two-week window uh long story oh long story essentially we have to yeah we could still have a trailer yeah but it would be too early yeah so no that no that makes sense but we'd have a trailer for a Floatplane uh yeah but we're gonna have it um uh it trust me it makes sense sure we don't wanna tease something two weeks in advance well we wanted to use it i'll take it on full plate no no but um i know i get it yeah we don't want to create again more salt than we have to i get it but it's there what do we got Techquickie bias lighting as fast as possible that's a good thumbnail it's pretty that is actually brilliant behind the scenes demolition vlog yay oh yeah we demolished our sets so that was a thing uh this was a simultaneous release the core i7 8700k so you guys have probably seen that the ultimate mega workstation got oh i think that was a simultaneous release as well because of um a cooler master case sponsorship trackball mouse review yeah logitech released a new trackball it's kind of neat yeah i wonder how well it's going to sell i have no idea probably not particularly amazingly yeah but like i'm sure they're prepared for that like i'm sure it'll all be fine scrap yard wars heck yeah scrapyard war six part one sponsored by dbrand holy crap jay's two cents holy crap dmitry from hardware canucks holy crap hold on a second hold on a second i i got like a quick spoiler i got a quick spoiler uh holy crap you can hardly recognize Linus in this outfit how will anyone ever recognize him on the street he's going incognito i love the glasses wait for it it's coming and he's gone incognito Linus gone um so yeah it's 40 42 minutes of scrapyard wars greatness and the episodes are rolling out weekly on i think it's either saturdays or sundays so um yeah get signed up for flow plane if you guys want to be watching scrapyard wars right meow uh handy tech under 100 stuff for your stuff oh cool this is another one of those yep we are finally bringing back handicaps stuff for your stuff um this is a pretty cool product that is actually the size of this entire computer that contains a gtx 1080. oh yeah that's really small that's a 1080 for scale yeah yeah is that it is that the card right this is the 1080 right here wow yeah it's pretty cool um delitting a thousand dollar CPU is it worth the risk what would you put the risk at too hot for t a thousand dollars no no i mean like percentage-wise ah hard to say yeah um and last but not least the full RGB water cooling system even the fittings are RGB this is actually one of the better performing videos like of all time oh wow d-litting did really well too yeah um this one too what does scroll lock do killed it on techwiki or killed it on a Floatplane so guys uh joe go join go join the plane go join the club it's not going to be called a club anymore no we gotta we gotta get out of the habit we don't don't join the club just get on the plane get on the plane just uh get your pilot's license just get on the plane man um so head over there it is three bucks a month we cannot promise that that pricing will remain after the launch um when it goes on to the other side we promise that it won't yeah it won't yeah so you should probably be on Floatplane before the site launches and we do not intend to announce when the site will launch because we're big douches yeah we totally could but we won't yep so get on there all right guys thanks for tuning in to the WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel bye okay do you mind um yeah doing that also i haven't even ended the stream yet but i gotta go and finish shooting that thing with you okay i'm also gonna try to find a time for us are you still down yeah i'm just totally still down okay because i that we definitely haven't figured out a time yet oh yeah i'm sure there's i'm sure it'll be fine yeah probably like a 7 30 we can squish some fast food and then head over there fresh books that works for me yep cool synergy bye everyone i'm gonna reset this hung out outside of work in like probably like over a year so long no no last time was when you came over and we talked in the living room and then the time before that was when you came over and we rode out on world's most comfortable yeah it was like a year ago yeah bye everyone"}