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Riley, welcome to Reacting to your first appearance at LMG.

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Thank you, happy to be here.

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I know you see the screen in front of you and I've shortlisted some videos but

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did you remember your first appearance on LMG? My first appearance at LMG was in the TechLinked announcement video where Linus made everyone

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think I was living in a dumpster prior to that point which fun fact I wasn't but it was a good bit.

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That was a very Riley bit wouldn't you say? I think I made it a Riley bit. I think it was Linus' idea to put me in the dumpster

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but I was like that is a funny joke let's go with that. I came up with the idea that I would be like uh incomprehensible.

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I was just like I just want to do a quick bit. It was only funny to people who knew who I was already.

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To everyone else they're just like why? Why is this dude crawling out of a dumpster?

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But you knew Linus before LMG did you not? Yeah I worked with him at NCIX but by that point he had left as an employee and was working

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as a contractor but then I was the employee and my team was writing scripts for Linus to come in

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and and host which is partially why the whole kind of heckling thing like the person from off

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camera like speaking when someone's hosting that's kind of where that came from because

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he would be hosting stuff and then he would like call something out in the script that was

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inaccurate and then we'd respond and then they'd be back and forth and then he'd carry on with

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the script and then we just kind of kept doing that. You didn't ask but I gave it to you anyway.

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Let's take a look at your first netlink to weekly.

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Oh geez. Let's see how much you remember. I told you to go and find this one but I regret it now before I've even clicked on it.

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This is a horrible idea. So for context this is episode 49 of the weekly show that Linus would make on NCIX

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Tech Tips. It would usually start out with him talking about sales going on at NCIX.

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After he talked about the sales and like the deals at NCIX that week then they would start

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talking about news at some point but I guess he brings me in here at some.

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Okay so I all right where should I play from I'll play from here.

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Oh man this is you know this is what the YouTube audience craved back then.

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They just Linus felt the need to demonstrate that if you buy this monitor you get the 3D

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vision goggles and he did this to show that that's what goggles look like.

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When you put goggles on your face it looks as if you have frames around your your eyes.

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So that's what he's doing there. Special correspondent agent keys.

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Over to you. Thank you Linus if you go into an NCIX store.

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I'm very very thin but I think that the green screen key is also like

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that it was so strong that it's like subtracting another like half inch from my body on both sides.

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Back to you Linus. Oh wasn't even a green screen green screen.

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Well yeah so like that's why all of these old NCIX videos the back wall is blue

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because they're like we can use it for regular hosting and then if we need a blue screen we

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can use it for a blue screen but like we hardly ever used it as a blue screen.

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Wait tell us a little bit about why why why you're referred to as keys.

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Okay so all right all right here's the whole context here.

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So I mean Linus has told the story about NCIX and how he started the channel or

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whatever million times but he was he was running NCIX tech tips.

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Esther his sister-in-law was hired to I forget exactly what she did.

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I think she did social media some marketing stuff.

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I think she did some other things I don't remember but anyways I went to high school at

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Esther so then I was hired on as an intern for Esther to also make video content

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because Linus was moving to something else. At this point I'm an employee I believe.

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What time is it what month is this July? Oh no I'm not even an employee at this point I'm still an unpaid intern.

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Oh boy at NCIX. I'm not sure if that was legal at that point.

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I think it was but I'm not sure BC law.

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At some point they were like Linus is going to transition away from this

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and we need to bring in our own personalities to try and like keep the channel alive so this

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was the way to introduce me to the NCIX tech tips audience as sort of a guest correspondent

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on netlink weekly. The reason I had the nickname keys is because Linus's crew at that time consisted of Linus,

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Luke who was known as slick because of his mineral oil PC I think and Edzel who was known as diesel.

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I'm not sure if anyone else was on board at this time. We had to have nicknames too.

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It was decided by somebody at some point I don't know so I came up with keys because I play piano.

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So when did people stop calling you keys? Closer to the end of my run at NCIX tech tips I started just referring to myself as Riley and

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having other people refer to me as Riley even though I think my lower third when I was hosting

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still said keys right up until the end. We started using real names at some point because we're kind of like we don't really

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need the nicknames. I don't know. So you seem pretty confident in this netlink weekly like on camera.

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I think I was confident there because I had an outline of things to say but now I'm going to

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come in and join Linus and it is about to be super awkward.

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These aren't even microphones. These are pens. This is awkward. So I said it's awkward.

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I even said it. We're holding Sharpie like this is a electronics retailer.

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Like this is a real company and we're putting out videos that look so amateur.

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It's insane. How did they pay us to do this? I mean I wasn't paid at this point so that explains that but Linus was paid.

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I mean maybe it wasn't amateur for the time right? Even today I feel like it's weird for companies to have like fully hosted YouTube videos with

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like personalities and whatever but like you know they do exist now.

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It was less common back then. Man they just like grabbed whoever wanted to make videos and just like threw them in there.

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It was very strange. Chromecast yes.

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There we go. Oh exciting. This is the news.

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The Chrome the first Chromecast was announced. Google it's $35.

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$35 Chromecast. That gives everyone an indication of Riley's age.

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Full disclosure I am currently 34.

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So 10 years ago in 2013 I was 24.

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This is a 24 year old Riley. Really kind of fantastic.

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I mean they're they're... Look at that smile. You look so young like you're 18 or...

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Would you say I look 24 now? No comment.

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Let's move on to um... Say it.

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I feel like if I shaved all this I could pass as a little baby.

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Take my word for it. See now you'll notice that I'm doing just a lot of smiling and closed mouth nodding and whatnot

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because I don't have an outline to say. This is the first time that like Linus is a big figure in my mind.

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I know that he's you know the personality on this channel. I'm some schmo showing up.

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I'm like what am I going to do? Like interrupt him? Talk over him?

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It's hard to have banter in that situation because this is really the first time I've done this.

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Like however even TVs that don't have a powered HDMI

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some of them do have a random USB port for power on the back of my mind does.

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Waiting for an opportunity. You can actually power it that way as well rather than just having a dedicated plug running into your power bar for this.

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And also I don't have any idea most of what he's saying.

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Like I was not a technical person.

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I feel like I was pretty technical among my friend group. I would kind of like you know hack my MacBook a little bit

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to get Windows apps running on like a MacBook.

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I mean he's not saying that's that much of a technical like level type stuff here

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but he's just going. He has all this background knowledge and he can just talk

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which he can still do remains one of his greatest strengths.

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They found a piece of code in the source code for Android.

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They found a piece of phone. I made a mistake and now Linus is making fun of the fact that I stumbled over my words.

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This is the other thing to note about this is that there's no like editing in so far

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as we're showing visuals but they're not cutting anything.

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Yeah this is uncut. It's it's live basically.

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So like nowadays we would probably cut something like that. I think that's good enough.

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Yeah that's good. Let's move on to your first netlink daily.

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So do you want to give us some context about what this is? So that first video we were watching was in July 2013.

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This is now September 11th and at this point I believe in August.

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I think at that point he was like I'm doing full-time Linus tech tips.

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At this point now I'm unemployed. They're paying me at this point.

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I'm coming into work full-time and we started we decided to transition netlinked

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weekly into netlink daily instead of doing one video a week uncut one of these episodes

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every single day. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and we're only doing three stories.

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At that point I believe that there were some other shows that were doing something similar.

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The Verge had there like the Verge in 90 seconds. Polygon had one I think that was like also 90 seconds.

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There were some other like sort of like daily news shows and we're like let's do that.

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So there's a minute 30 seconds this video. It's the very first oh this actually isn't the very first one.

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Jack hosted the very first one. This is the second one of netlink daily.

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Hey guys welcome to netlink daily today tiny tiny pc.

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The audio. This intro was made by Chris Lim.

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Chris Lim aka NCIX Wheels.

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Because he was into cars? I think so. Right. And then NCIX Jack his real name was just Jack.

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He didn't I think he was like Jack is already a nickname so I don't know.

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That can fit in your hand. It's called the Bricks 2 about 4.5.

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The slide in. Is comparable to a g-force cheat.

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And this is always the cheat. This is always the cheat when you are making a youtube video.

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You can make it look better by grabbing one of these you know product announcement videos

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off of the official Intel channel and throw that on there. And now look at look at those cool graphics.

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We didn't even give a credit or anything like we do today.

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The vanilla version of the Bricks 2 comes with HDMI mini display.

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To that same blue background. Yeah. That image isn't even fully aligned with the screen there was like a blue bar.

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Yeah there's blue bars yeah. Think Chris was editing these.

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I think we switched off editing but I think at this point he was doing most of the editing.

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You'll have to get your own memory a 2.5 inch hard drive and an operating system.

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Like why did I cut? It's so clearly amateur.

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Like I don't want to be too harsh on it obviously because it's like we it's just

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still crazy to me that a company like a retailer paid us to do this.

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We had no idea what we were doing. I mean we sort of know we knew how to set up the camera and edit and whatnot but like

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I'll I want to ask you my hosting style like what do you think?

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Oh like I think there's much worse out there. You're charismatic on screen so it comes off like well.

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I think that the main thing I notice is that I'm just like moving my face less.

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Yes you're like stiff but your hands are very. You can get a Gigabyte bricks module with extra RAM and I'm like I'm keeping my face

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like it's not really moving a lot instead of being like Gigabyte announced and brand new

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PC that is going to change everything you know like I'm using all these expressions.

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Yeah. Hey we all have to start somewhere right? I watch these and I cringe but I'm like why am I cringing?

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What is cringe? So this is your first official appearance.

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Love manual labor. We are all we need now.

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Oh is someone who's got time to host it?

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Yeah all we need now is a host so then he goes through the the

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office asking various people if they want to host and then he gets to the dumpster outside.

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Yeah Riley is that you?

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Hallelujah! That's it how did he pitch this to you?

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How did he pitch this to you?

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It's not level it's not level it's not how did this happen?

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It wasn't doing this before. Is it doing this? I don't know if we weren't touching it.

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Well he didn't really pitch it to me per se.

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We were having a meeting talking about how we're going to announce the channel and then we kind of

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like over the course of an hour or two or whatever we kind of came up with the concept of okay we're

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going to say we're going to do a new channel where like we got to find a host and I think he

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thought the dumpster thing was funny because NCIX went bankrupt.

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And I left just before it went bankrupt because I took all their money with me.

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I'm just kidding. In the intervening year and a year and a half I made a food show for a company that is now called

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Tattle but at that time was called Secret Informant and yeah they went around hosting this food show

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which they asked me to do and I was like why not but I think Linus approached me after a while and

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was like do you want to come work here and I'm like I guess so.

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The way that he tells it he like he he subtly hinted many many times that I should come work

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for him and I didn't get the hints so then I didn't I could have been working there earlier here

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earlier but I didn't I'm not smart like that. So then he was like okay you haven't been making tech videos and hardly anybody has seen this food

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show so as far as they're concerned you have been living in a dumpster and I'm like fair enough

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it's a funny bit although now I'm watching it it's awkward it's very very awkward

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maybe not so awkward maybe I'm being harsh on myself anyways that's the story oh here we go

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Central Park this might be offensive to you Arjun because you're from Australia

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did I explain to you the Central Park Central Park? It's a New Zealand accent there's a Flight of the Concords episode where they get that Murray tells them

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Gochiko has a gig at Central Park and they're like Central Park and then they go to the gig

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it's not Central Park in New York they're like this isn't Central Park and he's like

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well it's I Central Park like it's Central it's a park that's centrally located and my friend and I

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thought this was hilarious so we just started saying Central Park to each other constantly

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and then I was saying it on NCIX tech tips and it kind of like caught on as a meme a little bit

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yeah let's take a look at your first ever TechLinked appearance I believe it was episode two

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this was again the second episode of this because Linus hosted the first one

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and yeah I started out facing the opposite way I mean I guess people did people people were aware

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of who I was because I'd been hosting at NCIX I hosted there from 2013 to 2017 wait 2017 oh yeah

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I did the food show for a year and a half but at this point I was actually only starting

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part-time at LMG I was working here Monday Wednesday Friday which is the days that we

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were doing TechLinked and on the Tuesday and Thursday I was going back and working for Secret

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to form it Central Park okay there it is it's funny I feel like I can really notice a difference

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in my hosting style between now and then but I imagine that other people probably can't unless

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they are I don't know paying attention to me as much as I pay attention to myself no I think

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there is like a different vibe to like today's tech link that you would host I can't pinpoint

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what that vibe is but it's definitely a different kind of Riley one thing I don't

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think we have music here what do you think doc I just want to know what the animal rights activists

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are going to think of this because pay to flops I get it kill me um that's a joke we would make

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today I guess um yeah there's no music I guess we added music at some point we did not have music on

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netlink daily so that makes sense maybe we're just like it's literally just gonna be netlink

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daily although one thing that if you're you might have noticed in the first netlink daily episode

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it's a minute 30 three stories only at some point we were like this kind of 90 second format is

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getting a bit old we want to add some more meat to it so then we added five shorter stories that

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on my episodes I would call them quick bits on the episodes where my barrett or my barrett

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my brother barrett hosted because we hired on barrett to also write and host netlink daily at

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ncix he called them for shorter stories told more quickly than the others instead of quick bits he

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would never call them quick bits julia called them snippy snippets we're getting deep here were you

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nervous at all coming into TechLinked on one hand I was nervous because you know I was going from

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like doing this janky low production value videos although we got better by the end of it but

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you know amateur style videos for ncix the electronics retailer coming in here to the

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you know Linus media group the company that's running multiple youtube channels professional

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lighting setups professional cameras you have people actually properly trained to do all these

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things instead of like a one-stop shop by the end when jack and julia and barrett had all left ncix

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and it was just me by myself I was and at times before that as well I would I would write shoot

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host edit publish do the whole pipeline myself and then I was coming here and now you know a bunch

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of that stuff is taken care of by other people who know what they're doing better than I do so

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that was nice it was like an anxiety reliever in some sense but just the pressure of like knowing

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that I was going to be in front of a much larger audience yeah I was I was kind of stressed nervous

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but not too bad I guess how much do you think uh TechLinked has evolved today the core structure

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of netlinked is still very much the same we have three main stories five quick bits a mix of of

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informational details and uh jokes for the sake of entertainment there have been some subtleties

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introduced where like I put try to put some more meat in certain stories you know instead of just

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kind of like reading the headline and making some jokes and like maybe a couple details or whatever

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I'll try to like take a main story and then find other stories that are happening that are like

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related to that story and then link them all together in a paragraph that also has jokes in it

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so that that has changed where it's like my instincts have got tried to I feel like I've veered

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towards trying to be a bit more journalistic than youtubery at the end of the day you know it is it

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is a quick and dirty youtube video that we're we're pumping out in a single day of production so

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yeah the the core spirit of the channel has as remained unchanged I'm being very serious

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I just realized you want me to do some funny accents go ahead let's do it no let's do it let's do it

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no no what do you mean a joke I don't actually what I do other than my other than my non-descript

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European accent where it's like he's not from North America but he's from somewhere interesting

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give us one more no one more no what for float for float plate the only one I want to do

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is Australian no over and over again until I go back to the mother country I don't know what

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you guys call it there to Australia straya straya sorry we're watching a lot of bluey great show

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before you we just filmed uh reacting to the first time thing with uh Yvonne yes she was talking

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about how she wouldn't mind uh hosting a tech link to game oh my gosh I would love to have Yvonne

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host TechLinked anytime it's been hard to get other people hosting TechLinked as like operations

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of the company have expanded Yvonne has gone from like having a couple people under her in the

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accounting team to like having many more people uh and same with me I have Jacob and Jessica are the

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writers on the news team who I manage so uh it's been harder to get other people hosting uh because

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everyone is has has schedules that are much expanded from when you know the years ago what I've been

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meaning to do is like get some sort of like pre a pre scheduled uh schedule of hosts and if I do

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that then people are you generally available but I think that uh that's uh that's not me to get that

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together so I'm sorry Yvonne I'll give you advance notice come back please please come back

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anything for our fun people the lesson that I've learned from looking at my first appearances on

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YouTube which I haven't really done in like a condensed form like this for quite some time

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is that I don't think you can ever make stuff that you won't look back at and cringe to some degree

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years later if you are ever making videos or if you're ever in a public uh presentation sort of

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situation or even just for anything that you're working on don't worry too much about whether

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it's going to be cool or whether it's going to come across in a certain way just do your best

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put it out there and uh have a cringe party watching it later because you will cringe this

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isn't too bad but man those first videos who it's hard to watch it also has struck me that I've been

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doing this now for 10 years which is uh I'm gonna die soon cut