{"video_id":"vD8Yk7JrBL8","title":"Even USED Intel CPUs aren’t a good value anymore… - Ryzen 3 3100 & 3300X","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2021-05-05T14:53:29Z","duration_s":493,"segments":[{"start_s":0.08,"end_s":6.0,"text":"we all know the drill by now a new flagship CPU launches everybody gets","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":3.76,"end_s":11.36,"text":"hyped and then the lower end stuff comes out and nobody cares and i get it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.04,"end_s":16.96,"text":"quad-core processors that lag behind the competition aren't exactly headline news","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.16,"end_s":22.88,"text":"but stop because this time everyone should care because AMD's zen 2","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.16,"end_s":28.84,"text":"architecture outperforms Intel's coffee lake clock for clock and not only that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.039,"end_s":30.64,"text":"but 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in real time it's used by security pros to monitor for malware block bandwidth wasters and detect suspicious activity get 25 off today using offer code Linus at the link below no my friends the biggest move here is the price the ryzen 3 3100 at 100 us dollars is about 20 bucks more than an Intel 9100f and looks to be a steal of a deal for anyone who's looking to put together a budget gaming or content creation rig a secondary rig or a first time build thanks to its extra threads and affordable price meanwhile at just 20 dollars more and 30 dollars less than the core i5 9400f that it competes with the ryzen 3 300x is maybe even more interesting now on paper it doesn't actually seem that different from the 3100 and while it has more threads than the core i5 it competes with it's actually got fewer physical cores four versus six and while it has more threads than the core i5 it's got fewer cores but as it turns out there's a big differentiating factor the 3300x uses a single ccx layout compared to the 3100s to ccx layout now if you're not too familiar with ccx's and their importance don't worry about it basically what it means is better performance because it reduces the amount of time that the cores have to wait to talk to each other that's really important for modern games and render tasks that might take advantage of four or more threads enough talk though our benches were equipped with ddr4 3600 memory across the board fresh installs of Windows and the latest patches available to make things as fair as they can be and right away boy do we see what a difference zen 2 makes for gaming compared to our zen plus ryzen 5 3400g frame rates are anywhere from 20 to 60 percent higher than AMD's previous budget offering king Intel's core i5 9400f does pull ahead by a few frames in a couple of cases but overall it seems pretty comparable but remember guys this is at over 30 dollars more and the good news for team red keeps coming even within AMD's own lineup 3rd gen ryzen 3 ends up being disruptive for just a machine that's just for gaming on a budget man it's it's hard to convince me to spend another 50 to 80 dollars on a ryzen 5 3600 over one of these new ryzen 3's like wow for productivity once again the new ryzen 3 is absolutely embarrassed the last gen 3400g with a 25 higher cinebench score and a clean 15 to 20 minutes shaved off the mozilla firefox compile time and the 3100 consistently performs on par with even the more expensive core i5 even in heavily threaded workloads it is worth noting that here at least the extra budget for a ryzen 5 makes it a much better value for content creators though at least in my opinion compared to either the new ryzen 3s or team blues current offerings but lots of people don't care about that and only upgrade their computers for gaming so we're gonna try something a little different today the core i7 7700k still goes for as much as 250 to 300 on ebay thanks to its reputation as a great high FPS gaming CPU incidentally it matches the four core eight thread layout on our new ryzen 3s and yet the gaming experience with these new ryzen chips manages to be in comparable territory for around a hundred dollars the ryzen 3 3 100 is typically within 80 percent of the core i7's performance level and the 3300x managed to stay essentially on par and this is at a lower rated power consumption and then making matters even better for AMD productivity tells us the same story ladies and gentlemen this is what it used to feel like this is what we used to see after two and a half years of CPU innovation feels good doesn't it both of the new chips ran cooler on our aio water cooled bench than the ryzen 5 3600 but something to watch out for is that despite the identical 65 watt ratings it's clear that the 3300x outputs more heat and draws more power than its little cousin at nearly 70 watts peak that means that while the box cooler easily handles the 3100 you may need slightly better cooling if you want to max out the boost clock on the 3300x to be clear though i'm talking about upgrading to an inexpensive aftermarket heat sink not a pricey water cooler you can save the water for hydrating your body lttstore.com then for budget gamers who plan to use a dedicated graphics card these are some seriously potent little cpus and the news gets even better alongside these new chips comes the announcement of the b550 chipset which is going to allow motherboards with not only full PCIe gen 4 on the CPU lanes but also bifurcation so that means we're going to see multi-GPU operation by splitting the primary 16x slot into two 8x slots for the first time on a budget chipset it even uses less power than the outgoing x470 does meaning that it no longer needs active cooling i am expecting our holiday buyers guides this year are going to have some very good things in store the only question left then is which 3rd gen budget AMD CPU to buy at just 20 dollars more than the ryzen 3 3100 the ryzen 3 300x takes the crown for me and twenty dollars for what is essentially a core i7 7700k without the overclocking headroom is a breathtaking concept and it seems like unless Intel's 10th gen processors significantly improve performance or slash their pricing AMD has now got the very high end the not quite as high end mobile and even the budget segment on lockdown now speaking of lockdown what's in your online security toolkit locking down your privacy on the internet adding a vpn lets you mask your ip and encrypt traffic to and from your devices and private internet access has reliable service with over 3 300 servers in 30 countries they've got no bandwidth caps and they've got configurable encryption and an internet kill switch to keep you in control of your connection when combined with private browsing a vpn can even make websites think that you're in a different country allowing you to get cheaper flights haha not right now but maybe someday and take advantage of other benefits of being 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