Welcome to the W show. We are 21 minutes
late and Lus isn't even here. Well, Lionus, that's why we're late. Yeah,
I was here on time. James is here many hours before on time. Trying to figure
out whether or not we should start it without him. I think he's going to relieve me soon. Yeah, they're filming a
video like right there. So, us talking is probably going to be super annoying for them, but they told us to do it,
right? You said do it. Not our fault. Welcome to the WAN Show. We got great
topics. user benchmark controversy. They change the weights of how things are
scored and it moves some processes around in the ranking system in some
funky ways and some people especially the AMD crowd are very upset about it
and Cloudfare stops servicing 8chan
but free speed. Oh my god, they're a private company. Anyways, AMD Epic 702
series Rome processor. I'm not even going to say anymore. All that and more
on the W show. Roll the intro.
whatever they call it. It's all AdSense taken
demonetized for hamster dance. Yeah. Is
Freddy Fatty Freddy.
Wait, what? Squarespace. Squarespace
and rul.
Oh my. AJ is crying right now. Pissed.
absolutely balling at this moment. Anytime I say anything French, I I think
I like the hair and the veins on his body are just like he like partially
Wolverines. Okay. Did you know that in uh America the Kia Sportage is
pronounced the Kia Sportage? Really? Yes. Like act like in ads and stuff.
Yeah, as far as that's what I heard. Whoa. Sportage. Interesting. Speaking of
Sportage, Cloudflare terminates. They did this, right? They terminated the
Okay, so Cloudflare terminates 8chan. That's I believe I mean Cloudflare isn't
a like a server host. So they probably terminated like DNS setup and all this
other kind of stuff. So you wouldn't be able to get there. But they didn't like
delete the you know they they don't have that type of relationship. But um for
all intents and purposes the website's down until they find a new replacement.
From what I've heard they did and then that's gone now, too. Right. So, what
happened was they got another potato. They went to a competitor uh whose name
is on here, but I'm not in the right part of the dock. Sure. Epic. Epic. Yes.
And then it was Epic with a K. That's the most like most epic type of Epic.
Absolutely. Um Epic in turn though was relying on the services of Boxility uh
who pulled the plug on Epic after it learned that that a chat had moved to
Epic because they had the same uh philosophy as as Cloudflare. So, as far
as I know, you still can't get on to 8chan. Okay. I think I'm not going to
try right now, but uh I tried earlier and all I got was like literally if you
just type in achan, all you get is articles about how it's down about like
all the recent news about it. I couldn't even get It used to be fun when this
kind of stuff would happen and you would get like the FBI website seized page.
Have you seen those? It should just be a like a gif of an FBI guy. Just we're
taking your website. What are you What are you doing
here? Uh, let's see. Like a guy and like a like a detective guy. Yeah, these
these were epic. Yeah, those are cool.
Show them. Yeah. What do your Elvis see?
Seizure of mega upload. It's like so aggressively
official looking. Seized in the background repeated over and over and
over again. And then it's like government stamps. It's like strobing
government seizure. Government seizure. It's like the purest form of justice
porn, I think. We did it, guys. Let's put our stamps and stuff all over it.
It's us. We took it. So, yeah. Okay. So,
what what happened? This is related to a recent recent tragedies. Um,
particularly the shooting in El Paso. Um, so I'll just read it here. The
suspected gunman in the recent El Paso shooting appears to have been inspired
by the forum website known as 8chan, which is of course related to 4chan, but
even less moderated. even less. Yeah. Some people call it infinitan, infinity
chan. It's just it's basically described
as like a blank piece of paper. You can just write whatever you want there. Okay. Anyone can start their own little
micro blog there. And it's unmodderated. Okay. For the most part, uh it appears
that this gunman posted a 2300word
manifesto to the site just 25 minutes before beginning his attack. That's he's
that guy is online 25 minutes before
like Well, we'll see. The I like the stickens. Okay. Okay. Um, nearly the
same thing happened on Hchan before the terror attack in Christ Church, New
Zealand. Oh, yes. So, it's I think
there's at least three big tragedies linked to Achan at this point. That's uh
that's pretty intense. Yeah. Um, the El Paso shooter specifically referenced the
Christ Church incident and appears to have been inspired by the largely
unmodderated discussion on Achan which glorified the previous massacre. That's
a dark stage of humanity. If if you have unmodderated
uh conversation, it just turns into that. Ah, I think I think that there's a
few different things going on. I think when populations get significantly large
or sufficiently large, there's just a minimum percentage of crazy people and
when there's billions and billions of us and we can all connect with each other.
As long as you speak you both speak English or you both speak the same language, you can find each other and
everything's so broadcasted and people won't shut up about their names and like
they get glorified to a certain degree. Yeah. They can find each other. Yeah.
And when there's just so many people on Earth and they can find each other like that, there's there's bound to be a
handful of them that congregate in the same space. And on top of that, I think
that there's like people get radicalized. Like you see this other
content and it pushes you into places you haven't been before and you actually
get worse. And so it's a there's a feedback loop there. It's like like riot
mentality but website based. Yeah. It's I just I find and this has been talked
about a million times by people way wiser and more intelligent than me, but
it's really really frustrating when something like this happens and they broadcast pictures and their writing and
their name and everything because it makes them famous within various
circles. Well, on the bright side is I was researching the story today and I
still don't know the dude's name. Perfect. Okay, so that's cool. Good. Um,
so what happens was CloudFare uh steps up and they made a big blog post
statement saying why they they pulled services from this particular website
which is they stress not something that they want to do. We have some quotes
here saying um we reluctantly tolerate content that we find reprehensible like
we try to host a lot of companies that we think are bad people in the name of
free speech and giving platform to as many different voices as possible. But
there's a line um quoting again, but we
draw the line at platforms that have demonstrated they directly inspired
tragic events and are lawless by design.
Han has crossed that line. While removing Han from our network takes the
heat off of us, it does nothing to address why hateful sites fester online
because that's a big thing. A lot of people are saying, well, like this isn't going to do anything. The site's just
going to go back up online tomorrow. And if it doesn't, another site like it
will. Websites are really hard to squash. There's a lot of places you can
go to stick around. And yeah, I mean the
people that were on here are still gonna be on the internet. So yeah, although I
think I don't know, sometimes when you remove a forum like that, you just have
to find somewhere else to hang out and maybe you dradicalize a little bit. Maybe. But it's the internet. I find it
interesting that uh they're not onioned because like that's not even hard
anymore. I paused for a second before I said that because I was like maybe I shouldn't give them the idea, but then
like it's pretty freaking obvious. They're internet people. Yeah, they can
probably figure it out. A prime is here. He must hate something about the show. No, I didn't realize you guys were. I
thought he was an Enderman for a second. What's an Enderman? He just What is it?
Like those Minecraft units where if you if you if you look at them, it's like a
problem, but he just and he just like stands there and takes things every once
in a while and you're like holding something. I feel like the fact that
I've never really played Minecraft is like a kid never having played Lego. I
feel like it's a like a What a shame. What a shame you never played Minecraft.
Yeah. And what a what a um tone pivot we
just did. Yeah, absolutely. Back to the dark stuff. Okay, so Instagram made a
response because well what happened was after the cloud flare thing. Yeah, the
CEO of 8chan made a video and it it's
pretty interesting. It's really free speechy. It's really like there's a
superimposed Benjamin Franklin like
picture in the background like a wolf t-shirt almost. Okay. And um he
basically says like look like we abide by the law. Um, we're always forthright.
We work with the police like within minutes of these attacks. Like we're not
evil people. I'm not an extremist. Uh, and this is a blank piece of paper that
people can use for whatever purposes they do. And sometimes evil people like
this use it in evil ways. Okay? Cuz that's not free speech doesn't mean as
far as I know literally everything in because I'm talking about the American
one. Um, this is not my own country's laws so I'm not 100% on top of it. But
as far as I know, you can't do like uh
calls for violence and stuff. M. So, it's not purely a blank piece of paper
as far as I know. Um, cuz that's not
allowed. Yeah, there's definitely you're not you're not Yeah, you're not allowed
to say certain things like free speech to a certain degree. Yeah. Um,
yeah. I don't know. But then there were some there were certain things that he
called out as facts like um he said that
the the shooter posted not on the
manifesto not on 8chan first but indeed on Instagram first and he then also says
that um the manifesto was not uploaded
by that same user. The shooter did not upload it. He may have written it but a
different user uploaded it. Obviously if that's true then it would have been someone working with him. Yeah. Um
But and he also says that CloudFare has an impending initial public offering and
they just want like good PR in the leadup to that. Okay, because like there
Okay, so something to talk about uh in in Cloudflare's I say this every time
something like this happens on Wow, which is fairly often is Cloudflare is
completely within their right to do this. Cloudflare is not the American government. They're a private company.
They can do whatever the hell they want. Um we work with Cloudflare. they could
take full plane and line of tech tips for them off their service if they
wanted because there that's completely within their rights. So sometimes the
free speech argument when you're talking about a company doesn't make a ton of
sense to me. Um you can go after their policies in regards to how they deal
with that. Um cuz like an example that I like to bring up is that the forum does
not have anything like that at all. You there's no like free posting rules on
the forum. It's a tech forum. We have an off-topic section where you can talk
about some stuff, but we usually try to stay away from political things. We try
to stay away from whatever. The reason for that is there's no paid moderators
on the forum. And those kind of topics
create a lot of work and they're all
volunteers. That is actually the reason is because we have a bunch of volunteer
moderators and when you do that, they can't moderate the rest of the forum,
which is actually the important parts in my opinion. just go somewhere else. It's
a tech form. There's a big old out there. Exactly. So, like I I like to
defend the company's ability to kind of do whatever in that regard because we
have a similar problem on the forum. Um, this is obviously a redonulously
different scale. Um, but like yeah, I think I think it is definitely up to the
companies to do whatever. Now, Cloudflare has positioned themselves for
a long time as a defender of these types of things. So that's where it starts to
get a little bit interesting because Cloudflare has refused to take down a
lot of different websites. Well, in their own words, they're struggling to
create a policy that can be broad and
consistent and applied again and again. Like how do you word that perfectly so
that it aligns perfectly with your values across all these myriad
situations that are just getting crazier and crazier every day. It seems like how
do you make a blanket rule? Yeah. Yeah. So, like I I can sort of understand the
response to a certain degree because they've positioned themselves as that entity that will defend kind of
whatever. Um, but then I just want everyone to keep in mind that it is a
private company. It's not the US government. That law doesn't really apply. Well, the mission statement is
something like to create a better internet. And the definition of better
though really depends. Does that mean freer or does it mean safer? Yeah. Who
knows? Um so after um the CEO of HN made
that statement actually Instagram or Facebook responded saying Instagram said
uh said that the shooters manifesto um
wasn't was not first uploaded to to
Instagram indeed um they did find an
Instagram account that was tied to the gunman and they disabled it but it had
been inactive for over a year. So, who knows? What is this 8chan CEO
know? What is this Facebook PR person
telling us? Who knows? Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of interesting how it's turning
into like a no, the crazy guy posted something on your site first kind of
battle. That's That's a little funky. Um
I don't know. None of this is good. But when the Christ Church shooter did his
thing, he streamed it. Was that not on Instagram that he streamed or was it
Facebook? I think. Well, I don't think it was Twitch. I'm
not sure. Oh, right. Yeah, good call. Um, I'm actually not sure, but I think
it was a Facebook owned entity. I thought it was Facebook itself, like
Facebook.com. I don't know, but I'm not I'm really not sure. But that that one
had weird ties to like he called out
subscribed to PewDiePie and he did all this which was like really stupid and
didn't make any sense at all. And there was a bunch of other stuff that
it's really interesting how it's it's kind of the reverse of the like NASCAR
idea where like when one of these crazy things happen, everyone tries to figure
out anything that they had any interest in and then applies evil to that. You
know what I mean? Oh god. Speaking of evil,
that was awesome. Out of focus. And that's the end of that topic anyway.
Yeah. Perfect. Cuz I didn't really want to talk about it anymore. What up? What
up, ladies and gentlemen? Uh, what topic? This is not my laptop. What topic
is no fun and no good? Uh, 8chan taking or Cloudflare taking down 8chan. Oh
lordy. Yeah, we thought we'd get rid of that before you showed up. Yeah, that's
a complicated topic. I actually had wanted to talk about that. Okay, throw
your input. Um, cuz I feel like a broken
record on these types of topics. Oh. Oh,
yeah. I love BIOS updates that are
completely like, okay, I can postpone
it. Wow. There's a there's a there's a countdown on Sure. Nothing should ever
automatically BIOS update. Can we just agree on that real quick? Yes, we can.
We can. You know what? No, I'm going to play I'm going to play devil's advocate
because in I just watched a video from Paul. He said one of the highest shame
things to do is have your computer break because you you uh power goes out while
it's while it's files updating. In the event, remember this is a device in this
case which has a built-in UPS effectively. Okay. So, so there's that.
They do have that does help. They do have one safeguard in place. This is
really not going well. I think it went away. Never mind. It went away. That was
a weird error. Like unrecognizable error. Um Okay. Okay.
Okay. And it did it again. Okay. Now I I
It's hard for me to do this, but I'm going to I'm defending this behavior right now. I'm playing devil's advocate
here. What's that box? I I don't know. Just just just just hold on for a second
here. Okay. There's some kind of
horrendous CPU security exploit. Okay.
The only mitigation is like a microode update. Okay. Your computer's BIOS. It
should it should update. It should like make you do I don't think it should automatically happen on a timer. No, I
don't really disagree with you. I'm I think it should tell you and be like,
"Yo, you should like really do this." Um but yeah, I don't think Okay. So,
honestly, what if your battery is low? Well, you'd think it would check. Like,
the BIOS can read the battery percentage. Are you sure that did?
Maybe. It didn't look too sophisticated. Okay,
so hold on a second. Let's talk about Let's talk about the the whole 8 Chan
thing that went down. So, my main take on this. So, there's a couple of things.
Um, I am pro- free speech, but here's
the thing that a lot of the people upset
about Cloudflare blocking 8chan seem to
have overlooked. Free speech, I mean, okay,
there's a number of ways that free speech gets misunderstood by the average
person. Way number one, free speech is protection from government
persecution, not the right to just say anything you want to anyone you want
with uh no ill effects. That is not what
free speech means. So the other thing too is the general concept of your
rights ending where someone else's begins. Cloudflare is a private
enterprise exercising
their very similar to free speech. Like there's a lot of things that are not
technically speech that get protected by free speech. Um but they are effectively
exercising their free speech rights to
not deal with or have any association with ach. Okay. Point number three that
seems to get misunderstood by a lot of people. The United States of America is
not actually the world.
I didn't bring up that one. I did I did bring up the previous one. That's
usually one of your favorites. Yeah, I know it is. Yeah. Yeah. No, I brought up
the like it's a private entity thing, but I didn't bring up the America isn't
actually the entire world argument, which is I don't know. That one just I
just I get such a kick out of that one because I always get these messages um
whenever I'm in another time zone. Lanus, why are you uploading at three in
the morning? Because East Coast USA is just one of, believe it or not, more
than 24 time zones.
There are a lot of time zones out there. It's amazing. You'd be You'd be floored. You'd be floored by how many time zones
there are. Um, all right. So, we can go
ahead. We can move on to the next topic. Yes. Uh, why is this not why is this
doing this? How many times do I have to load my browser to the perpetual Wow
document? Okay. What have you guys talked about so far? Just the Achan
thing. it. I think we should do the user benchmark thing because it's in the
title. Okay, let's do that. So, I got you. The user bench controversy. So, we
were actually supposed to talk about this when we did W show live at LTX. Oh,
we Yeah, we we said it was one of our highlighted topics. We were like going
to talk about it and then people got mad at me because they were like, "You guys
are covering up for Intel again." And I'm like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, chill
chill for a second." We got all wrapped up like giving away cool stuff to the
audience. like we were just like having a good time and actually we didn't cover
a ton of topics for some No, not at all. For some reference of how much I
completely forgot this, I'm the one that decided it was our headliner topic and I
got him to pose for it and everything and I had I don't think I'd ever seen
this before. So, the only reason I brought this up was cuz I saw a couple of comments that people were like, "Hey,
you guys said you were going to talk about this." I was like, "Yeah, we did
actually. Okay, we should do that." I hope you called it out as your caller
topics cuz I don't remember this literally at all. So, user benchmark or
user bench or whatever it's called. Yeah, user benchmark which I have
actually never heard of. Should I have heard of user benchmark?
Uh, let me go make
uh Okay, I have maybe I've heard of it at some point. But user benchmark has
never actually been um part of our
benchmarking suite. You're sharing screen sharing by the way right now. It's never been part of our um
benchmarking suite here at Lionus Media Group. Um I have never run it out of
idle curiosity. Um so I thought it was something else. No, I've never seen this
either. Okay, cool. So anyway, apparently they get millions of website
traffic every month. So that's cool. Apparently they recently adjusted their
score weighting mechanism. So previously they weighed single core performance as
40% of the score, quad core as or quad
threaded mid jump back real quick. Jump back to your screen for sure. Uh
quadthreaded performance as 50% of your score and multi-core performance as 10%
of your score. I have fixed it now. So you can see on their scoring things they
have percentage values, user rating percentage values, single core,
multi-core. I don't actually see the quad core thing which is the highest weighted one. So not sure but don't
worry about it but they have everything like set on the top here. Okay. So they
came out and they were like however due to unrealistic scores of many core CPUs
like Ryzen 3000 series userbench changed
their waiting system as follows 40%
single core 58% quad core and only 2%
multi-core. So, previously it was 40% single core, 50% quad core, and 10% uh
multi-core. So, they dropped the multiore by a lot. All right. So, this
riled up AMD fans who want to see their
team's processor at the top of the chart. And you guys shouldn't be fans of
microprocessor manufacturers because I'm I'm going to let you in on I'm going let
you in on a little secret. Okay.
They don't care about you. What? I know
they care about their shareholders.
Oh, I I'm sorry, Luke. Hurts my feelings. I appreciate it. Fair to I'm
damaged now. Uh anyway, so this this riled up the people who are fans of AMD.
Um and to be clear, I'm not down on
being excited about competition in the marketplace. I'm excited about that, but
I'm not a fan of AMD. I am not a fan of Intel because at the end of the day,
business is business and that's all it is. Okay, so this riled up AMD fans who
are fans for whatever reason because the
$120 quad core Core i38100 now beats Oh,
wait, no, sorry. This is a point of clarification. So, here's the thing,
though. AMD processors were not the only ones negatively affected in terms of
their perceived value by these changes. So, the $120 quad core Core i38100 now
actually beats Intel's $2,000 18 core
Core i9 99980 XCE in the rankings because of its higher boost frequency.
Oops. Um, so User Benchmark has hundreds
of thousands of benchmark submissions in its database that influence the purchasing decisions of nearly 10
million visitors each month. Wow, this sounds like an ad for user benchmark, which I've never heard of. No. Uh,
following the July 2019 cohort, we noticed the CPU, gaming, and desktop
indices were overestimating all CPUs with core counts beyond eight. until we updated that index. So, this is
basically them sort of clarifying why this was done. You know what? I
understand why AMD fans are mad because, you know, their Threadripper CPUs um
now don't look as good. But the thing that people have to understand is that
while I don't necessarily agree on 2% as
the right number for workloads that will take advantage of a Threadripper for
the average user. Yeah. Um it's definitely less than 10%. Yeah.
So, and like from the wording that I've
seen, it it literally says
uh it's geared towards gamers. They say
that in the text on their website. So, I think user here I think what they could
do is a couple of things. They could improve this system by either updating
it frequently because if the idea is that they want to weight
um they want to weight the workloads that are likely in the present day more
heavily that's that makes total sense. That absolutely makes sense. Um or what
they could do is they could allow you to run it a couple different ways. So you
could you could run it in like um today
mode or you could run it in forwardlooking mode. As as software gets
more multi-threaded, I'm going to care more about that. I want to buy a future more I hate the f word, but a more
future proof a future proof processor. Yeah. No, I like one of the things that
I like about that concept is just you could even ch pick the future one
knowing that you have some use cases now that could use multicore more and just
be like I am a future man future man.
But like it's I like the idea of being able to mess with it. So you could go
like, "Okay, multi-core is this percentage important to me. Quad core is
this percentage important to me. Single core is this percentage." The some of the problems there is some people aren't
going to recognize how important single core is um due to a whole bunch of
reasons and other various things. But yeah, I mean it's interesting. I do
agree with multicore being downed again and I but I don't know about the 2%. I
don't know about 2%. That seems pretty low on the other hand. And like if
they're looking at it going, "Yeah, you know, an upcoming 32 core Threadripper
or wait, there's a 32 core now, isn't there?" Yeah. So, an upcoming like 64
core Threadripper or something like that for the average user's workload, no
is not going to perform, you know, 80% better, you know,
in I don't know, Far Cry 5, whatever, Battlefield 5. It's not it's not it's
not actually materially faster in workloads that most average users are
going to be running. Yeah. Um, no. I will restart later, computer. Wow, it's
really annoying. You know what could be kind of fun? Yeah, benchmarking. Not
that this news matters enough to necessarily do this, but having a video where you benchmark the i9 99980 XE
versus the i38100.
Just go like how does Wait, we've done that video that exact video. Not quite,
but I think we did $100 CPU versus um
what? $1,000 CPU. Okay, so close, but
we're talking 120 versus two grand, but similar. Um, very similar. Uh, let me
see if I don't remember exactly what we Oh, no. We did. It's a $600 CPU, 10
times more powerful than a $60 one. People hated that video. Why? They were
just mad. I don't know why they were mad. Yeah, it has like a lot of
dislikes. Yeah, it has like a 10% dislike ratio. I don't I don't get it.
Uh, what were people mad about? mad about.
Um, oh, some people were mad because I kept calling it a Core i7 because this
was back when Core i9's were new and I was like, uh, that was a hard vocal
shift. I I don't blame you too much. Uh, is a $600 Linus more powerful than a $60
loop. What even are these
comments? Title is clickbait. $64 instead of 60 reported. Get over it. Um,
okay. You know what? Piano banana. Let's answer your question. I'm watching every
video from you for years and I have an important question you never answered.
What should I do when I want to share my mouse and keyboard between multiple computers at once? Wait, are they just
joking about it? Must have had like a It's got to be an ad spot. It has to be an ad spot. I'm sure you mean sponsor
spot. Oh, sorry. But yes, Spawn. There was a sponsor spot for Synergy. Oh, very
very funny. There was a lot of synergy spots at sponsor spots. Uh, we don't do
ads online as tech tips because ads might compete with Google's ad formats,
right? That's why we only do sponsor spots. I am so sorry, Google. I
apologize. I will take whatever punishment you
seem. Yeah. Go sacrifice a marshmallow
to our overlords or a piece of pie or an
Oreo. You can sacrifice them into your tummy.
That's perfectly acceptable. So, it's it's actually good for everyone. That's
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today's WAN Show. Okay. So, there have been some epic battles. Oh, you've been
so excited about this on YouTube over the years. Some epic battles. Oh, one
epic battle. Oh, no. We're going that direction. One epic battle was
between the epic rap battles characters
Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. That truly was a a spectacular episode of epic rap
battles. More importantly, there was the epic battle between T-Series and the one
and only Felix Kielberg. Is that how you pronounce it? Whatever. It doesn't
matter. Pewdiepie. Okay. Pewdiepie. Yeah. You know, for top subscribed
channel now. Keyberg. I like it. We're not we're not in a position we're not in
a position to battle over the top most
subscribed YouTube channel of all time. Yeah. But there is a rivalry that has
actually been heating up over the last little while. And so I just want to take
this opportunity to say it.
Um, Marquez
MKBHD, I choose you. Consider yourself called out
because now people who creep YouTube stats might know this already, but most
of you probably don't. Marquez actually what four years ago
five years ago I think skyrocketed past
Linus tech tips for most subscribed tech channel and then Lou actually blew past
both of us but we're not talking about that this is a race for the silver
medal second English speaking okay
technical guruji technically over 10 million subscribers second Englisheaking
tech YouTube channel across the 10 million ion subscriber mark. Marquez,
consider yourself called out because, and I'm sure you noticed this, man. We
actually passed you for subscribers about what was it about six months ago.
Brandon, does that sound about right? Okay. Now, with that said, the race is
going to be super interesting because Marquez actually passed us again about
two or three weeks ago. But then, check
this out. So, he's gaining an average of
around 4,800 subscribers a day. Yeah.
Yeah. That was a Note 10 launch, don't. So, so he he can be very spiky, but he's
gained an average of about 4,800 subscribers a month, and he's sitting at
9.054 million. Now, by comparison, the
Linus TechTips channel, 4,800 subscribers a day. A day, sorry, a day.
Like 140 a month. By comparison, the Linus TechTips channel is a little
behind. We're actually about 80,000 subscribers behind, but that is not an
insurmountable difference when you look at our daily average, which is about
5,500. So, we can win this fight. Also, one
thing, a little bit of hot fire. He's uh B+ rated. You're a minus. So, yeah. So,
Social Blade, Social Blade knows what's up right there. A minus. You like that?
You like that A minus right there? Heck yeah. It's green. His is yellow. Just saying. Yep.
So
Marquez, it's on. What's up, bro? It's on. So I'm challenging Marquez to be the
next one, the next tech channel to 10 million before
us. And I'm challenging you, our community, to help help me out here,
please. Because I've we've been watching it
internally. Like, it's it's something that I don't think I've met a YouTuber.
They might deny it in public, but I don't think I've met a YouTuber who
doesn't creep other YouTubers on SocialBlade. We all use SocialBlade to
like be like, "Hey, how are other people
in the space doing?" Yeah. Um, it makes sense. So, we talk about it internally,
but now it's public. So, I really need
you guys to help me out because I am now officially out of the closet when it
comes to my YouTube stating habit. And
uh I would like very much to not be embarrassed. So guys, share Lionus Tech
Tips with your friends and family. Uh preferably the ones that'll actually
watch because it can actually affect us negatively if people subscribe and then
don't watch. It makes YouTube think that like uh people subscribe and don't like
the channel because the content sucks. So like find someone who's actually
techie and make sure they subscribe. If all
7,000 of you do that today, then we can at least keep pace with him over the
last couple days cuz he's had a nice little bump from the Note 10 that I uh
had not anticipated necessarily before
conceiving of the idea of challenging him on the W show today. You should pull
in Mr. Beast and buy out all the billboards in an area, but just to troll
really hard. Buy them all out in his area so that he like drives and stuff.
So don't don't say anything because we
have some plans and I don't want you to accidentally say anything that we
actually have planned. Okay. And ruin it. Okay. Okay. So we'll talk offline.
Sounds good. But yeah, we're we're Okay. Tell you what. Tell you what, I can't
tell you guys this unfortunately because it would really it would really ruin a
thing. But um I'm going to tell Luke and
you get to judge by his reaction. Okay. How funny this is. That picks up really
Okay. I'll be very quiet. I'll be very quiet.
Okay. I haven't even told you the funny part yet. Okay. Okay.
You should. So that's how good it's going to be. Okay. Okay. And then hold on. Hold on.
Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
This is going to be amazing.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Sorry. So, anyway, Marquez, I choose you. Um, bring it on.
That's all I have to say about that. Oh, God. Uh if he responds with anything
anywhere near that amazing, this is going to be absolutely fantastic.
Officially best tech feud of all time. Wow. Uh because the tech feud between
AMD and Intel is officially over. Um
Intel is just not really participating
in the feud anymore, it seems. Uh oh wait, I didn't mean to actually share my
screen there. That doesn't matter. Uh, the original article here is from our
bud Patrick Kennedy over at servethehome.com and his headline pretty
much says it all. AMD Epic 70002 series
Rome delivers a knockout.
So, if in the consumer space Whoops. So
if in the consumer space AMD got
competitive with Intel and managed to pull out ahead in given workloads,
particularly multi-threaded workloads, because when we talk about AMD being
great for gaming with Ryzen third gen, we're talking AMD caught up to Intel and
they now like beat them a couple times, but Intel still at the top end of their
stack is the best performing CPU
strictly for gaming.
When we talk about the serverland world
place thing in the clouds, those are workloads that are
inherently heavily multi-threaded, an
area that AMD has uh cemented a firm
grasp on when it comes to performance
leadership. Um, and this
is bad. So, remember that video I made a little
while back where I talked about how I can't hold tech stock um because it
would be a significant conflict of interest if I didn't feel that that was
too much of a conflict of interest. Here's the thing. I make my money
through ads and sponsorships and uh
merch sales um and and all all kinds of
different ways. Um, so I the way that I
look at it is like look it, I can't have my hand in every honey jar. Okay. So, so
playing tech stocks is going to be a honey jar that I just cannot ethically
participate in. And you know what? I need to be comfortable with that because
I have all these other ways that I make a very good living. I'm not complaining
at all. So, I'm just be like, you know what? I'm not going to do that. But if I
had had the opportunity, I legitimately, even though I don't actually participate
in stock trading, I would have bought so much AMD that day. And honestly, it was
not because desktop Ryzen was like going
to be competitive or whatever. That was what the word on the street was. That was what AMD was broadcasting, shouting
from every roof rooftop that they could.
The thing that I was actually excited
about was
this. That is the epic
announcement. Wow. Okay. So, when we go
back to when was Computex? Like sometime in June. Okay. So, Computex is like
what? Mid June. Oh, yeah. No, this is the spike, right? Yeah. Early June. Here
we go. So, so it's actually pretty similar this kind of like downward trend
and stuff like this stuff can be all over the place, but you got to remember
when you're when you're buying a stock based on the uh the quality of the
product portfolio, right, and the
competitive position of the other players in the same market. We're not
talking about holding something for like
a month or two and going, "Okay, that was my gains. I cash out and like you
flip it and buy something else. Because the thing is for for an actual
competitive advantage, not just like, oh, there's a rumor of a buyout or blah
blah blah, like that kind of stuff that really causes stocks to spike and decline or like large shareholders um
dumping to artificially deflated and then buying in low or whatever. Like
like there's all kinds of things that can affect a stock. If you want to
capitalize on something real, like the actual position in the market of the
company, you need to take a longer position. And what I had an inkling of
at that time was that over the next
couple of years, AMD was going to win
back significant market share in a
space, not gamers, guys. There's no margin in gaming chips. Like, there's a
little bit, but come on. Not not gaming chips. I'm talking the
big stuff. I'm talking $7,000 CPUs of
which two go in one blade server of
which there are four per freaking like
like server of which there are like you
know 16 or 18 per freaking cabinet of
which there are a hundred in a data center. That's the big business. That's
the big money. That's where AMD is going
to be coming back in their next quarterly earnings report, maybe not
even the next one, because after you launch a product like this, it takes a
while for those big uh requests for quotes to come in, or I think it's
actually short for request for quantity. I think it can go either way, whatever. That's where those RFQS come in. And you
know, you look at it, you you uh you put
together a quotation, the buyers take it, they talk to their upper management,
blah blah blah. There's a whole process validation, but it's going to Yeah, it's
going to take a quarter or two, maybe even three, but that's where AMD's
quarterly earnings at some point in the next year are going to look like
this. That's where it's going to spike hardcore and that's where I was looking
at it going, that's why I would want to take a position. Now, heed my warning.
Since I said that, since I made that video, AMD has already spiked
significantly. And I am not in a position where I am advising anyone to
buy or sell stocks. That is not my job.
I am not an analyst. Remember, no matter
how good things look, stuff could go wrong. Dr. Sue could die of how excited
she is about how amazing her company is performing right now. Or a fab could
have a problem. Yeah, TSMC could explode. Okay, that could actually
happen. China could get really upset. Yeah, remember remember when uh what was
it? Floods in Thailand that like well with that said WD and Seagate stock
actually spiked because of that because they just sold hard drives for more margin. But anyway, that's a whole other
thing. Um something I've been Yeah. Yeah. The point is stuff can go wrong.
I'm guaranteeing nothing. But, uh, this
was what I was actually amped about, but couldn't really talk about because I had
nothing concrete to go on at that time. Zen 2 is a freaking beast. I wish I had
my swear button so I could bleep myself cuz I wanted to use a different word.
Okay, so Epic 7,000. Can you Can you
show your doc for a sec? I can. Who wrote this? Uh, James. Why? We need to
do like a word count thing for how many times AMD and Epic were typed in this.
Well, AMD is having a pretty epic run here. just it's amaz every single line
AMD epic the AMD epic the AMD epic AMD
pretty much you should read through Patrick's uh article because it's great
um but pretty much almost across the
board except at the very low end epic is
just I mean it's just crushing it I mean for a single socket we're talking 128
PCI Express lanes versus what is it it's either 46 or 56 something stupid like
that like over double the PCI Express lane count when we're talking big data
and machine learning and stuff like that. A lot of the processing isn't done
on the CPU anymore. It's done on GPUs. So this these or not even GPUs. I mean
there's other specialized processors. Intel just released their FPGA thing.
Yeah. Like Intel themselves seems to know this. Okay. And then aside from
that, you need massive storage. You need PCI Express for that. Everything is PCI
Express now. Uh they've got way more memory bandwidth. They actually run at
faster memory speeds. DDR4 3200 versus 2933. And they've got two more channels
per chip. They completely rearchitected the way that the memory actually
connects to the CPU. And this is really cool because I was actually doing a
video on Intel Skull Trail the other week. Remember Skull Trail? Yeah. Okay.
That was Intel's dual socket uh gaming enthusiast platform. It was eight cores
at a time when nothing had eight cores. Nope. Uh in the consumer space anyway.
And um I was blown away because I pulled up task manager and I noticed that it
only had one NUMA domain and I was like,
"Oh my god, it had a north bridge." So the CPUs the CPU bones
connected to the north bridge bone over the front side bus and the north bridge
bone connected to the the FB DIM memory
bone. So there's no latency penalty for
this CPU to grab data from RAM that's connected to this CPU's integrated
memory controller because there is no integrated memory controller. Okay, but
integrated memory controller is still has a benefit over that archaic
architecture because basically having a north bridge means everybody gets a
latency hit instead of only when you have to cross into another domain. Now
with Epic second gen, AMD actually
architected effectively a more
Northbridge like system with fewer NUMA domains
except it's all on it's all on chip. So
they're I forget what they call it. What's their IO hub thing that they're building into the the thing? They made
the IO die the center of the server. Blah blah blah. I forget what they
actually call the damn thing though. Um, sorry, you'll have to forgive me. I
don't remember what their what their term is for it. But what this means is
that the best case scenario, so just
like with the north bridge, the best case scenario for memory access actually
gets a little bit worse, but the worst case scenario gets way better,
especially in dual socket configurations. What's that? I think
it's still called Numa nodes. No, no, no. The IOHub. The IOHub has a name.
Yeah. Yeah. I forget. I forget what it's called. Um, you know what? We can
probably You know what? Let's give Let's give Patrick's article some shout outs here. It's pretty awesome. Let's just
find it. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, Patrick, you
don't label your pages.
Dude, was to move the traditional north bridge functions, blah blah blah, etc.,
etc. Come on. You're killing me here, dude. Okay. Something something
something. I'm dying. Andy's approach is different. Integrated server controller
hub. The SCH. I think that's it. Uh, no,
that's not it. Is that it? Maybe that's it. You know what? It doesn't matter. I
don't care what they call it. The point is, the point is they have smoothed out
the latency for memory accesses. They have sped up the memory. They have more
channels. They have a 15% IPC uplift
over first gen epic, which is freaking phenomenal. They have up to a 64 core
product. I mean, we are talking Intel's dual socket servers having a difficult
time competing with AMD's single single
socket chip. And we're ignoring
price. AMD's 64 core chip, the top spec
one is like $7,700. A single Intel 28 core, okay,
single one is 10 grand for their topsp spec chip. Now, you're going to get
those at lower prices if you're buying in volume or blah blah blah, whatever.
But you have to assume that AMD's got discounts on offer, too, depending on
how much you're buying. The point of the matter is just that Intel is not
competitive and then their pricing is out of whack. There is basically now I
want to get Epic in-house here. I want to play with it. I want you guys to play
with it for like a video transcode server. Um, I'm working on it by the
way. Okay. Um, so I want to get epic in house, but as far as I can tell, outside
of some very specific use cases, like if you must have
AVX512, which is an instruction that AMD has not implemented yet, if you must
have it, um, AMD don't got you back. But
that's about it. I was going to say for a vast majority of other stuff, AMD list
prices on competitive parts are 25 to 35% of what the compute performance
would cost to get from Intel Xeon comparables. That's compute performance
cost, not like chip for chip. Yeah. So that's actually like more important in
my opinion. It's savage. It's savage. We're bringing that back. It's savage.
We're going to like 20 to 18.
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Savage beating. It's like it's hard to watch, you know?
Yeah. It's hard to watch. Like Jake Paul. Yeah. Oh, equally hard to watch.
Nice. I don't know. I've never watched a Jake Paul video. It might be great. I
wouldn't know. Um, speaking of things, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know how to
get rid of Nick other than to tell you guys about the hoodie I'm wearing right
now. That's what you want, right? Really? Oh, that's not on sale yet. Oh,
it's not? I thought they just took pictures now. Oh, okay. This is not on
sale yet. Sorry, Nick. What can I do for you? Uh, did you see the thing that
Light sent you and stuff? Oh, that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about that.
Also, did you guys talk about how like there's a rumor that Dr. Se is going to
IBM or whatever? What? Dr. Sue might be going to IBM. Well, like there's a
rumor. There's a rumor. It doesn't seem very The thing that makes it more
legitimate to me is that she directly responded to it being like, "This is not
true." Which to me makes it more true. She said it's not true. Interesting.
Yeah. Uh denied a rumor. She wants to be IBM's
next chief exec. Uh that would be lame.
That just be a lame move. Anthony, we're like maybe IBM just buys AMD.
I don't know if IBM could buy AMD and retain the x86 license though. I think
that would be the issue. Yeah, there'd be like no value. The licensing around
that kind of stuff is crazy. Yeah. And also there would that would be a significant market consolidation because
IBM and AMD actually AMD is poised that's a really interesting thing too.
They're also poised with these massive many core CPUs, PCI Express Gen 4.
they're poised to take on IBM potentially in applications where um
firms wouldn't have to completely rearchitect because that's one of the things that IBM does so well is they
focus on the interconnect rather than focusing on just the the performance of
their power cores. Um, so, so their their like Z series in particular is
really designed for like many many transactions and connect all the freaking things to it. And AMD is really
taking a very similar approach with x86 that Intel has largely ignored over the
last four years. So, if I was Dr. Sue, I
mean, I don't know what her executive bonus package looks like or what IBM
could offer her, whatever the case may be, but if I were Dr. Sue and I were
looking to leave a legacy behind, I would probably try to make it at AMD and
just kick IBM's ass instead of joining them. Just for like a Bill and Ted level
overview of this, it's just boring. Stay at AMD. It's more fun. Yeah. It's like
it's interesting. It has made the industry so much more exciting. Exactly.
Stay. Like I was so It's way more fun. I was so bored of CPUs for a bit there.
Yes. Like everyone was. It was like,
God. And then Jensen's niece was like,
"Yeah." No, apparently that's false. I know. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So,
apparently that rumor about Dr. Sue being somehow related like niece or
something to No, I thought it was like second cousin. It's or it's No, I
thought it was outright false. Lisa Sue related to Jensen. Here we go. That that
autocompleted for me. Uh, let's see.
Uh, technically her grandfather is Jensen Huang's uncle. They are not
exactly niece and uncle, but relatives is what this says from 2018. I don't
know. I had people calling me out when I was talking about it. Uh, and they
confirmed her grandfather being someone's uncle. That's relatively far
detached. Second cousin once removed or some crazy Yeah. Whatever.
Okay. I can't find anyone. If you go far enough back, I'm probably I thought one
of them denied it, didn't they? 14th cousin, 32nd time removed. Nick and I
are related. Yeah. All right. Whatever. Doesn't matter. Let's uh let's move on
to something pretty sick. Do you also want to see uh Oh, apparently our Twitch
title is wrong. Dang it. Whatever. Oh, what do you have? Oh, wow. Okay. Nick
wants Nick really wants me to do a merch update. Okay. I'm not that into the
suede hat. Can I show him one of the other ones for context? Uh someone was
wearing one earlier. Uh who was it? I think I know where one is. Yeah. Okay.
So, we're working on a new hat for TechLink. Um, it's going to have like
this little metal thing in the corner and then it's either going to be like a
plain kind of suede style. What do you think of that material? It feels
quality. It does, but I think it's a
different kind of personality that wears a suede hat versus the other one. What's
that? The like you can see. Oh, well, yeah. That's just like that's a
characteristic of suede. No, but that's what I mean. That's one of the reasons why I probably wouldn't be super into
it, though. Yeah. Um, one thing that I have as a completely outside person,
this is very trendy right now. Yeah. But I like snapbacks. You like snapbacks?
I'm that guy. But this is trendier. This is what people want as far as I know.
So, I like the heathered one. Oh, this is nice. Yeah, I really like this one
and this one actually. They look the same, but they're not quite actually.
Oh, wait. Are these ones the same? Oh. Oh, it's the pin there. There is another
color of heather that's a little lighter. I think the dark one is the one that I did. I don't normally like gold,
but against that like the gray heather, I think it looks pretty good. So, that's
pretty cool. That's not actually the one that I am most amped to talk about right
now, though. So, I'm going to go ahead and pop out this Hangouts window because
we are finally working on the LTT merch
that was like Thanos inevitable.
Yes. How close are we to this? Uh, we're
it'll it'll be a while. It'll be a while. So, first should be before
holiday. First, there's going to be a mouse pad. So, we're actually gonna
throw this up. Uh, we're gonna pull people on this. Can I? Oh, yes, I can.
Pick a design to to tell us what designs they like best. We might do more than
pull people by doing pre-orders. So, we're gonna do No, that's a disaster.
No, it's a bad idea. Um, so we're probably going to do a 10 key list and a
full size size. Okay. With like a nice reasonable mousing area like this kind
of key. Okay. Um,
so we've got kind of your Okay. So, something that we've done intentionally
is left the mousing area uh mostly blank. So, that's to make sure that we
don't have any tracking issues introduced by the graphics. Now, most modern like high-end mice won't have an
issue with that, but we want everyone to be able to use them. Here's a more
colorful version. It's kind of like winter/n northern lights kind of
inspired. I like um here's just like an LTT circle logo inspired one. I think
this one's a little busy personally. This is my first time actually seeing these by the way, guys. Also kind of
look like dongs. They they look like They do kind of look like dong. I think
we're out. That's the first thing I said. Yeah, we're out on the dong. We're out on the the black and white dong
design and probably the orange dong design, too. I Yeah. Uh, we could just
do something a little bit more abstract like this. This is dead on arrival.
Yeah. Um, here's Oh, the Techl one actually looks really good. Yeah, I like
that. That one's That one's sharp, actually. The Techl branding lends
itself really well to like clean, cool designs. Yeah. Um, and yeah, I'm going
to throw out all my socks and buy a bunch of these. It is inevitable. It was
going to happen. Also, uh I don't know if you guys can
see this, but yes, confirmed. We are working on a
sandal. Okay. Can I petition? I don't know anything about what you guys are
doing. Long term. Way long. Yeah. It's going to be a while, guys. Like, you'll
be wearing these sandals next summer. Okay. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, if it makes
it by then, I'm happy. Everything If everything goes according to plan, you will wear them next summer. You guys now
need second layer bottoms. So like not underwear bottoms because then if you do
that with this you'll have everything. So I actually you don't want but that
would be everything. I just killed that project. But that would be everything.
Okay. Here's the I didn't Well, yeah. It was like a You could be 100% LT. Okay.
All right. All right. All right. Chill out for a second here. Chill out for a second here. So pants are really tough.
Sizing is really challenging. Not like jeans. You got to hold on. Even then,
you got to accommodate all the different waist sizes, all the different leg
lengths, and all the combinations thereof. Okay? So, there's a huge like
front-loaded investment to bring in all these different sizes. Um, that assumes
that you can even figure out, you know, how to make the clothing fit nicely with
all these different body shapes and types. Pants are hard. Number two, what
kind of pants? Because jeans basically
you're not going to take on I don't know what a popular jean brand is. Levi.
Sure. You're not going to take on Levis's Gar. Um Jeno Jeno or whatever they're
called. The pitch that I got the pitch that I got was
joggers. I was just thinking sweatpants. I don't
think I They're the same thing. They're basically very similar. Joggers are
pretty much trendy sweatpants. And the thing is, I didn't actually kill the project
so much as I put it on indefinite hiatus
because um see the thing is, okay, so the reason
that I put it on indefinite hiatus is that from a um from like a a a being
excited about the merch standpoint, I don't wear sweatpants and I don't wear
joggers. Those are probably closer to joggers than they are to sweatpants, honestly. The Dream Hack ones. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. They're very joggery sweatpants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're more fitted and stuff. They're not just like
I'm sick today. Yeah. Those are those are those are probably basically those are basically like gray athletic. I
would basic Yeah, I would basically want something that isn't I'm sick today
pants but isn't jeans like Okay. I don't
know fashion, but yeah, something you could wear out, but we're not trying to
compete with jeans. So, um uh what's her
what's her name again? the uh um the mom
of all the the famous Kardashian people, Chris Jenner. So, believe it or not, it
was actually after a presentation from Chris Jenner of all people where she was
talking about how how they decide on which business
opportunities to pursue because, okay, when you're the Kardashian/Jenner clan,
you have basically an endless supply of people pitching you on endorsing their
product or branding your whatever blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. and she
went, "One of the most important things for us was to focus on what we're
passionate about because then you will never get bored of it." What's up? You
don't wear hats. I actually don't I actually do wear hats. Very rarely. I
used to wear a hat every day. Okay, that's fair. So, I actually like I can
understand the hat and when I go out on the weekend and I'm like out in the sun, I will I will take my hat. I do wear my
hat. Do you remember when you used to wear them all the all the time? So, um
So, and besides the hat project was actually already complete when I
attended that workshop. So it anyway. Okay. The reason that I killed the
joggers and fasttracked socks. Oh no,
I'm cool with mouse pad. I just wanted to eventually happen. More colors of
water bottle. It'll eventually happen. So what I told Lloyd and Nick, do you
want more colors of water? Sorry. Do you want more colors of water bottle to
show? Uh, no. That's okay. So what I told Nick and Lloyd was, we're going to
do it, but we're going to do it after we've explored the things that I'm like
really excited about and passionate about. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's cool. I
don't care if it happens in 2025. I just want to eventually be able to walk out
of the door wearing purely LT gear. I hate it when the ice breaks free. But
the fancy new jacket takes the brunt of the blow and it wicks right off. It does
actually. This is not actually a jacket though. Okay. Can you get the
terminology right? I'm sorry. Okay. This is the swacket. What?
SWAT jacket. Sweater jacket. Sweater jacket. Okay. Okay. Okay. So feel the
material here. Okay. Okay. It's kind of like athletic sweater. Okay. Feel the
material here. Definitely jacket. It's a
swack. Athletic sweater between the So you can still get soaked while only
getting a little bit soaked. It's a swacket. Okay. And it also has like more
more like out at night features like this is reflective which is actually
reflective strip on front and back. That's cool. Um, and I will also say it
hit the sweater part of the sweater jacket combo and still wicked off. So my
joke about getting soaked is not actually. So it's it's designed to be a
little bit shoutier than stealth hoodie. It is a bit more expensive. I think it's
going to be about $30. It's like particularly not stealthy, but it's YKK
zipper. The material quality is really different. Like it's higher. Um, not
that stealth is bad, just that this costs more. Um, and it retains one of
the uh key features of Stealth, which is
of course the secure phone pocket. I'm just gonna throw in there really quick. The the material on the Stealth hoodie
is actually like particularly nice. Um, we've had a complaint that I don't think
is going to get solved, but Brad from UFD Techch was like, "Dude, I'm left-handed." I know. I watched the
video. I don't think there's any solution to that really. I mean, we could do like a oneoff for him, but
other than that, no, we don't plan to do like a probably freak
out. Is that possible? I mean, anything's possible. Is that doable?
Like, they are actually working on an order of stealth right now. Is it
possible to What size is UFD? I don't. Medium. Medium. Is he a medium? I could
see if we could get him a lefty one. Okay. C Can you see what you can do?
I'll see. All right. And we're not doing this for any guys. We're not We are not
doing a left-handed skew because it's it's just another it's a nightmare. It's
another inventory item to manage. We're not It sucks. You can go like this or
you can pass it to your right hand. Yeah, but but it's totally possible. UFD
has pimped our merch so hard that just
for him we will we will try. Yeah, I'm
not promising anything. So anyway, uh we've got a bunch of different sandal
designs to look at. Some of them are immediately off because anything you
can't run in like this, you're done. You're done. It's out. My biggest thing
is you have to like it and want to wear
it like a lot. So, well, there are key considerations for me. Like, I do I do
expect even though I'm wearing sandals to be able to run in them. Yeah. And so,
it has to be a design that straps for your for your video where it was I think
it was Taran where you where you had like a battle with him about the the the
pros and cons of sandals versus shoes that I know, but this sandal needs to
win that. Yes. You know what I mean? So, it has to have everything that is good
about a shoe. Some of these designs actually look kind of sharp. I think
that's mainly just sock designs, is it? Well, it's not like the sandals stuff is
like by accident. And we should absolutely coordinate the sock design with the sandals, which is I think why
he provided it this way. But some of this is some of this is looking pretty I
like this one actually. I think this looks pretty good. So my question about
the whole like Chris Jenner stuff is like, yeah, where does the kimono fall
in that? I have no idea. I don't actually pay any attention to their
merch crap. So do you know what the kimono is? No. It's Spanx with an extra
scooping of cultural appropriation. I don't know what Spanx are. Do you not
know what Spanx are? No. It's like those like Why would we know this crap? Like
why do you know this crap? Like not leggings, but like under garments to
like tuck all the fat bits in. Oh, okay.
Maybe I should know that.
She called it a kimono and then cuz
she's Kim and then everyone got upset. I actually give beyond the excellent
message that was in part of that talk about business. I give so few cares
about the actual content and products over there. I've had a I've had a minor
I might be one of the people that buys a whole bunch of element shirts to expand
their clothing because we I had my dad over last night. Yeah, that was epic. I
I had my dad over last night to look into a plumbing issue at my house and we figured out that the hot and cold water
is unreliable because when they plumbed the apartment building that I'm in, they
run the cold water right next to the hot water and it heats up the other pipe.
So, we've when I've been washing my clothes, they've all been shrinking. So,
all my shirts are effectively larges now and they're supposed to be extraarges.
So, I've like lost weight but look heavier which is sweet. It's really
cool. So, what are the other considerations for the sandal?
Durability. I can smell this sandals. I'm sorry. It's okay.
Sandals always fail in the same spots.
Okay, that makes sense. Here. Yeah. Uh
there's just like a hand. You got less stuff holding on. Yeah. There's a handful of spots that they fail. You can
see this is totally detached here. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, how long have you had
that though? I expect a long lifetime out of my sandals. Yeah. No, because I
think this is the like second or third pair since I've known you. Uh no, it's
probably like number four. Okay. Yeah. So I do like one every one and a half
years or so. And that's not bad. It depends on when they fail. No, I think
that's I think that's pretty reasonable. So if we can if we can get to that kind
of level of quality and remember I wear them every day like this. These are my
everyday carry. Um
everyday straps weaponized sandals. Yeah. Which mouse pads did we like? So
Oh, which mouse pads do we like? Uh I can't figure out how to get back to the
mouse pads. I can't close this for some reason. So I don't know. Like escape
isn't working. I can't Oh, wait. Oh, are you guys doing a feedback thing? You
guys doing a straw poll or some other kind of I think they're different files. I think we're gonna put it on Twitter.
Yeah. No, I know they're different files. I just I can't close this. I I
don't know. I don't know how to close it. Oh, wait. I know what the problem is. It's a separate tab. There's Well,
there's your problem. Uh, all right. So,
yeah, I don't I don't want to look at that right now. I want to look at the socks. Okay.
So, I like this one. What do you think, Luke? I like the top left one. Yeah, I
like a little bit of color in my socks personally. But what about doing like a
different color? We don't have to be married to orange.
I like orange.
I like also go like stealth sock. Are you guys doing one? We don't know yet.
It's going to really depend on minimum order quantities. We found uh a supplier
who seems like freaking legit. Like they
make socks for brands that I've heard of, which is cool. Um, and like not
Hannes, like like brands that make like
high-end hiking socks and stuff that I have heard of. And I was like, "Okay,
cool." Okay. Um, so we found like a
really good factory, we think. Um, but their minimum order quantities are like
3,500 pairs, stuff like that. Like really, really high per size or in
total? Like dangerously high. Like like per I actually Oh, lordy. I don't know.
Because I was talking to Jonno about this before the show and if you guys are vetting as well as you've vetted for
everything else that's on the store so far, I'm probably just going to throw all my socks away and get these. And I'm
not exaggerating. We're going to do our best, but making a like a sock that
would satisfy me, which is what it has to be, is not going to be easy and might
even take longer than the sandal. Yeah. So, but that's but that is why I'm
probably going to do that. So, you know, the minimum quantity thing. Maybe I'm
gonna make you start buying merch at some point. I Well, I know. Okay. I'm
gonna have to cuz like I can't just give you your entire wardrobe for free. You
actually don't work here anymore. I was fully expecting to buy all of that. I'm
being very clear about this. The I'm probably going to do an underwear swap
at one point in time. I've kind of decided that you're not the only one. We
have gotten so many orders for specifically like two packs of
underwear, which is like nobody orders two packs on their first order. That's
cuz they already have a pack. Yeah. And like three is laundry once a week with a
buffer. Yeah. It's gotten to the point where I get a little bit annoyed when my
LTT underwear are not clean cuz then I'm like now I have to wear some other junk.
I'm just like that sucks. Can't put other junk on your junk. No. Exactly.
All right. Do we have any more topics for today? Uh there's some stuff. Oh
yeah. Apple is locking iPhone batteries
to the phone. Uh so the original article here is from iix it. So Apple has
announced that only Apple batteries can go in iPhones and furthermore only Apple
may install them. RC mail posted this on the forum. So if you replace your
battery in the newest iPhones, so the 10S, the 10S Max, and the 10R, a message
indicating that you need to service your battery appears in settings, battery
next to battery health. This service message is normally an indication that
the battery is degraded and needs to be replaced. However, even if you put in a
brand new battery, a firstparty Apple battery, you take two iPhone 10S's and
swap their batteries, they will both display the
error. That is, unless an Apple Genius or an Apple authorized service provider
authenticates a battery to the phone, that phone will never show its battery
health and will always report this vague, ominous problem. So, the way it
works is that there's a Texas Instruments microcontroller on the
battery that provides information to the phone like capacity, temperature, and
how much time until it fully discharges. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. As far as I I don't know of a
phone that doesn't have that feature. I mean, Apples is a little bit custom, but like uh basically the thing that has
changed now is that the chips in the newer iPhone batteries include an authentication feature that stores the
info for pairing the battery to the iPhone's logic board. If the battery
doesn't have the unique authentication key the iPhone's logic board is
expecting, you'll get the service message. So, I wonder yeah, if anyone
could figure it out and if it would be even remotely worth it to swap the
microcontrollers. Uh, apparently yes, that would work. Yeah. Um, it's
extremely difficult, but that's what I mean. It's more work than it's basically
because and this is something that is sort of um I guess a saving grace of
this move. um other than giving you that
message, it doesn't have an effect. So,
you know how if your battery is degraded past a certain lifespan, um Apple can
throttle the performance because it can't deliver the peak um power that
that that the phone needs in order to perform its best or whatever. Um
Apple's degraded message here doesn't force the phone into that mode or
anything like that for now.
Hold on. It just says degraded and otherwise the phone operates normally.
Okay. The problem, as you ruined my
transition to, is that this is yet another bloody slippery slope for Apple
to lock down their devices even further
so that nobody without Apple's permission is allowed to open a device
and service a device that you own. Even
Tesla is improving in this regard. And like they do not have a good track
record. No.
So I don't really have anything else to say about that. Like I do I understand
Apple's point to a degree. Um you know
every time an iPhone blows up, it makes
the news. Apple doesn't want that. And
if they could, you know, look back at some telemetry data that shows that that
phone was giving a message to their owner that the battery needs to frigin
be serviced and be like, "Well, that wasn't the battery we put in there."
That would be very nice. That would be very nice for them. I'm very conflicted on Apple right now because I kind of
really want an iPhone as my daily driver
because it would be very nice for security reasons and the sign in with
Apple stuff that's coming and all that kind of stuff is really cool. On the other hand, do you know how much a
battery swap by Apple costs? Exactly. Right. Yeah. So, there's like there's
the like I really like privacy things and I really like right to repair and
right now they're not going together at all. Yeah. And that's pretty
frustrating. That being said, how many times have you had a battery swap in a
phone that you actually Well, that you're a bad person to ask for this. Uh,
no. Go ahead. Ask me. How many times have you had a battery swap on a phone
that is your personal daily driver? Oh, yeah. No, because I know you've had them
for like the security phones and stuff, but that doesn't really Yeah. No, no,
like I've done phone battery swaps, but I change phones so often. You know, the
Note 9 might be my first one based on how the Note 10 looks. Cuz I'm not
upgrading to it. Can we do a quick straw poll? Sure. I want to use the new
polling service, but it's not ready yet. Sure. Hit me. Hit me with that straw
pull. What do you What do you want to know, Luke? What do you want to know?
Should it be like more than once? Can we assume that getting a battery swapped
one time in a phone is not that big of a deal? Sure. Is that fair? Yeah. So, have
you had your battery swapped in your phone more than once? Yes or no? Sure.
Okay. Okay. Yes.
No. And then these types of polls have a
tendency for people to only answer if
they're in the upset category. So I want
you to answer this. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah. Okay. Hit me with that poll.
I'm dropping it in YouTube. You're dropping it in that
YouTube. Good job. Are you going to drop it in that Floatplane? Oh, you don't
have the Floatplane stream up. You know what? I'll do a couple super chats while we wait. It's already up. Floatplane is
fast. Statwick Kumar. have my free money. Uh oh, thank you. Uh Stephen
Ellswick, hey from someone deployed overseas, love your channel having your
content to watch after a long day or relax and go Floatplane. Um you know
that if you give us a tip on YouTube, they take a bunch of the money and if
you do it on YouTube, um uh Floatplane
takes a bunch of the money, which is good. Um I mean, thank you. Thank you.
Appreciate it. Um you know what's really funny? We have had some people, we
actually need a tip feature because this is probably an additional tip. He's
probably subscribed on Flow Plan already. We do. We do need a tip feature. We have had people that have
contacted us asking to pay the higher tier.
Really? That's why I had you update the description being like, "Hey, you get
all the same things." And then we had some people be like, "Yeah, no, I just
want to pay more." Like, well, when is 4K going to be ready? Okay. Pretty soon,
actually. Okay. Well, we can roll out a 4K option. That'd be pretty sweet. And
then I actually do we have uh do we have a feature yet to like quickly export
like people's emails if they want to be on like a special mailing list or like whatever like when are text posts
coming? When are all the features coming Luke? Um the the uh the the the user
list export thing. Yes. Is something that was brought up very recently by
Eboss Vox. I'm sure it was and is not currently roadmapped but is interesting
interesting. We're currently trying to like fix some things now that we've
onboarded some creators. some more problems have surfaced because we haven't onboarded creators in forever.
So, we're trying to like smooth those over and then keep moving forward. Okay,
I'm posting the link to Twitch. Twitch got ignored for a little bit. Can you
guys do a show about trying to get FreeSync working on a G-Sync monitor?
Uh, we could. I actually don't know. Um,
I don't know if you can do that because
variable refresh rate, like that implementation of variable refresh rate
from Freync may specifically not be supported by NVIDIA Scaler, which is
like a hardware piece in the monitor. I I I don't know. The answer is I don't
know. So, I might have said something dumb just there, but it wasn't my fault,
or at least wasn't my intention. All right, let's have a look at our straw pull results. Have you had your battery
swapped in your phone more than once? Wow. So, not many people actually. No.
And this is from an enthusiast crowd. So you are you okay? So okay, hold on a
second here. So are you suggesting then actually I have a couple of different
angles here. So are you suggesting that we should just treat a battery swap once
every 3 to four years as part of device
maintenance and then after that the phone has probably exceeded its usable
lifespan anyway. So off to the recycler
basically. Okay, let me suggest that our
enthusiast crowd may have actually swayed this poll the opposite way you
might think. Ah, cuz they're buying devices more. Cuz they're probably buying devices more often.
Interesting. This is part of the problem with like pulling you guys. Yeah.
Or any like specific crowd. We need we need like a wider net. That's
interesting. That might actually be very true. I don't know because I I
know I think the only person in my
personal life that isn't me or you
that's gotten their phone serviced or has worked on their phone to the point of taking it apart and swapping things
that wasn't like the hot swap removable batteries from back in the day. Um is
like one of my parents and that's it right. So like I I don't know of that
many people that do it but that's also an extremely narrow scope so that doesn't help either. I don't know. Um,
ultimate fails. Any plan to make a left phone pocket stealth hoodie? Oh, wow.
We covered that. Uh, Ethan, uh, free speech laws in the US are sticky. Some
speech becomes an action. For example, death threats are illegal regardless of
how they're conveyed. Yep, that's a good point. We did bring this up. Um, Ilia,
hey guys, before LTX, you promised to host the next W show wearing only underwear, including bras. Did you lie?
We didn't lie. We forgot. And we also didn't promise, but I forgot. I totally
am down to do that. Okay. Uh, well, you don't have to. It's fine. Win config.
Today we learned Lionus is mostly libertarian regarding speech at least.
Um, here's the thing. Labels are bad.
Yeah, labels do not promote independent
thought. So, no, I would never call
myself a libertarian. I would never call myself a conservative. I would never
call myself a liberal. I would never call myself right-wing, leftwing, or
even centrist. Someone's going to grab one of those. Yeah, I know, right? And
then use it against you. I would never say that Hitler was No, I'm just
Okay, that that clip of me doesn't Now someone's I know. Yeah, I know. But if
it didn't, someone would just deep fake the rest of it on. I know, right? Um, so
anyway, I would never use a label to describe myself because a label does not
adequately convey the thoughts that I
have about these kinds of complex issues
there. And they shouldn't for you either
because just because the other libertarians think something doesn't
mean that you should. Not every personal
liberty makes sense. Some of them do,
but you have to actually think critically about whether things are a
good idea. Um, yeah, David says,
"Depending on if you're talking about free speech as the first amendment protection or free speech as a concept,
because there's a distinction there." That is correct. But either way, um,
what I said stands. Um, nope. Says you
should collab with mighty car mods. That would actually be sick. Yeah. Thomas
says, "Name your upload time and beats."
Um, really cool. NB67, any chance of purchasing a Floatplane t-shirt? Um,
uh, we don't have plans for that right now, but it is something that we've
given some thought to. Yeah. Quadro says, "Just replaced my GTX 780. Willing
to sell it to Lionus for $500. Great deal. I bought it new for 650. Have
original box and receipt. Can't hold it for long. GPUs are hot right
now." I think that message took about a
year and a half to come through to us.
Spaghetti BVO, I'm auctioning the domain
plainflat.com on GoDaddy. Yeah, he's been bugging me about that. Good luck
with that. We have no interest. Have fun, dude. Uh, Sarah, thanks for the
money. How to overclock a laptop i7. You need to have an overclockable laptop and
then you need to press the overclocking button in most cases. Um,
Captain Captain Nano, Captain, I don't
know what you're talking about. Can't sleep. Take my sleepd deprived money.
Okay, sure. Uh Sean says, "Unsubscribing
from MKBHD, not my real dad." No, don't do that. This is all about more
subscribers for LT, not less for Marquez
because Marquez is a cool dude. Um IQ Solutions reached out to my communities
for you. Keep it up. Awesome. Val says, "Bought merch in April to be shipped to
Singapore back in April. Hasn't arrived. Support has been scarce uh because of
the wind up to LTX." Okay. Yes, email support again. we will get it taken care
of. If not, PM me on the forum. Um, actually, PM Nick. Don't PM me. I get
too many P D P D P D P D P D P D P D P D P D P D Lego man says, "I'm watching while wearing one of my new element
shirts I bought on last show." Yeah. Okay, so that's a case where we did ship it out quickly. Yay. Uh Megan says,
"Luke laughs at everything. Tell us. I can't. I'm sorry." Oh, how about a hat
or mouse pad for float? Okay, we don't have a plan for float. Make more float
plane gear, says Megan again. Okay. Lwood says, "LTT swimwear when?" LT kids
wear when my son every time I bring home
a new merch item he's like daddy is there one in kids size yet? I'm like oh
kid no what am I sorry Blizzard makes baby
gear. Do they really? Yeah of course they do. They're Blizzard. Yeah. Um why
not one phone pocket on each side? We actually like the symmetrical or the
asymmetrical look. I'm sorry. It was it was a style decision. I'm sorry. I'm not
exactly a style expert. Probably costs more money. I liked it. Not much. It's
It's a style decision. Okay. Um
Oh, Reggie says, "Just wanted to give some support for getting the epic news
in there." Yeah, it's a big deal. Uh, joggers are running shoes. Do shorts
instead. No, no joggers or pants, but depends where you're from. You might be from like the UK or something. Oh,
you're from Australia. Okay. Well, that explains the lingo difference. Um, okay.
I think that's all we have time for
today. Oh, okay. Nicholas says, "I carry
two replacement batteries to swap on business trips." Right. But you are an edge case and you know you're an edge
case, so cut it out. Um, all right. So,
that's it for the WAN Show this week. See you again next week. Same bad time,
same bad channel. Except not. I'm out next week. I'm on vacation. Same time on
the same channel anyways. I'm on vacay. But I'm not going to see you again next
week. Same bad time. Same bad channel. But he will. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you're not
on vacation. I don't know who's going to be there with me, but someone will.
Probably not physically. Bye bye.
That was a good show today. Yeah, I had fun. Yeah.
Oh, lordy. Did we not update the Floatplane title either? Dang it, Luke. Oh,
yeah. We got that one. Twitch is twitch
now. Oh. Brought to you by Squash Mast.