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this is not productive enough

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what

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by seuss's beard three monitors in one portable package

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my dreams have come true or so i thought

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it's true that i've wanted something like this for a long time and after

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seven years a stolen razor prototype and

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a sleazy kickstarter that has allegedly ripped off backers for nearly 650 000

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and counting someone finally did it they finally

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stepped up to actually deliver what appears to be on the surface the

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ultimate road warrior productivity tool but is clumsy just their name or is the

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product kind of clumsy too i know it's not as clumsy as this segue

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i'd forgive you for thinking that the clumsy p2 pro triple monitor is a scam

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because it wouldn't be the first it's story time ladies and gentlemen

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five years ago at ces the team from slide and joy gave me a demonstration of

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their much-hyped le slide and young

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naive Linus believed that they were a legitimate company and he was excited to

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see the slide come to market since then slide enjoy has missed every

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production deadline they've set for themselves they've undergone a rebrand

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to portable probably in an effort to cover up their troubled history and

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they've provided precious little evidence that they've ever actually

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shipped anything to an end user oh and it gets worse

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their kickstarter page features years of complaints about delays and on their

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website we've got this review page with pictures of happy customers except that

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almost all of them are taken with the founders in the same house slash office

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this one's a duplicate as for the independent media coverage

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oops none of those logos actually link anywhere probably because any old

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coverage of these guys has been updated with warnings like this one

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and they are still taking people's money

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and funneling it into viral marketing stunts on social media

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how do we know because they stupidly reached out to one

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of our sister channels techlinked offering us 20 euros per conversion

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that's a pretty bad offer considering how much they're obviously keeping the

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cherry on top is they even admitted they have no stock of it not even a demo unit

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so that we could see in person what we were promoting and it's because of butt

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heads like these guys that we're no longer able to cover crowdfunding

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campaigns that takes important promotion away from honest people who are actually

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trying to solve problems for their users problems like not having enough pockets

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in your hoodie when hoodies now in stock on all sizes lttstore.com

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scammers aside razer's project valerie was another cool attempt at this idea

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but it was allegedly stolen from their booth at ces 2017 and razer made it

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clear at the time that it was more of a proof of concept rather than a real

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product that was then though this is now

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clumsy's p2 pro has its own sketchiness

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to overcome like the fact that an apparently identical product from offiah

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also exists but at least they managed to ship us one

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so let's take a look at it and here it is we shot this out of order

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so this is my first actual hands-on with this thing qualm zp2 pro they got a bit

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of a kerning issue here um it's more

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like the k1z try screen notebook expansion screen

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presentation mode portrait mode triple screen mode it does exactly what those

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rip-off artists promised that their product would do i couldn't help noticing it's really heavy

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oh okay it's 1080p 60hz 1000-1 contrast ratio

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16x9 13.3 inches

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oh okay comes in some kind of plastic

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leather carrying case oh okay this isn't packaging this is just to cart the thing

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around with with you we've got a usb type a wall board this puppy is good for

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5 volts 3 amps so it's a total of 15

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watts that'll probably be enough to drive both of these panels a type c to

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type c a dual type a to type c this is a

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lot of cables we actually have two of these type c to type c's what they did

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is to cover their bases it's like if you don't have usb-c power delivery

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you might need two usb-c ports if you don't have two usb-c ports then you can

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use two usb a ports and a usb-c port oh

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no just two-way or and a usb-c port oh i see

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for a random product from a manufacturer i've never heard of before this is

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actually a surprisingly decent quick start guide oh there's a

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micro sd reader in here well that's cool is why is there a card

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in here is this just a placeholder no that has data on it this has data on it

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this is how they give you the display drivers you need drivers for it kinda

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should i try and hook this up and see what happens yeah let's do that oh boy

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uh okay

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got a little kickstand on there you can adjust the angle like that i know you

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mentioned this to me already adam it is 13.3 inch compatible specifically 13.3

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inches no more no less well

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some more some more you can make it you can make it a lot bigger it supports up

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to oh you can make it bigger supports up to some 17 inch oh i see oh i lied again

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look at that all right we got our one cable solution

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hopefully so here's if we have power delivery i'm

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hoping for power delivery here okay

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oh p2 pro oh it's really dim do they advertise a

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brightness spec on the box it says 220

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nits that seems optimistic and this is

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the part where i'm supposed to figure out how to actually

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get it to operate i guess then because i do not see

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the um sd card i'll figure it out and this has

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got to be just a one time thing okay but

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no maybe the pd port is just for power in okay i'm gonna i'm gonna assume that

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type c then okay i'm trying the type c port how about now but

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okay it's a little heavy a little clumsy you might say all right

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my usb drive is here driver download address

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text document just in the interest of uh time i

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installed the drivers on one computer they didn't do anything oh

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really oh so how do i get it working sometimes it's just a matter of is that

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is that for sure power delivery port i mean this says smi usb display like and

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that's what the drivers would be it's just smi you also don't need

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to use the sd card they do have drivers available on their website but they do

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take you to a google drive okay you say i don't need

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the drivers but it's not working without the driver so i do need the drivers are

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you in a power delivery usb port well i don't know does i have a little

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lightning bolt buy it no maybe you should try both try both

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or it might just not work because they're a chinese company and a small

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one their documentation is very lacking and also it's a niche product so you

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don't hear many people going on forums trying to solve it right i definitely

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need that driver like it's it's showing up and i'm prompted for a Windows 11 oh

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it's on all three screens i didn't even notice i was so busy being like no i

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don't want Windows 11 right now well that's awesome

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they're really dim and they don't dim and brighten which i didn't expect them

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to to be very clear you can adjust the brightness with the on-screen display oh

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so there's controls at the top is that what the plus

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i don't even understand what i'm doing here the controls are pretty unintuitive yeah

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wow brightness does not seem to be actually changing panel backlight

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intensity it seems that's the image adjusting the gamma yeah that's the

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gamma if you scroll down to the bottom of this menu

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oh it doesn't change is that the joke

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oh oh wait eventually it does hold on eventually it does when you get into

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like the last 20 it does actually change meaningfully how do i exit this menu you

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just wait for it to time out they advertise 207 degrees of rotation but

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that that's that's coming from the back right which is super frustrating because

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this is really wide and just bringing it in like 5-10 degrees makes it take up so

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much less space the viewing angles are also not amazing

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these are not a matching 13-inch size

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are they oh actually you know what i think it is i think it's this is a

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inch but it's a 16 by 10 so there's just a little bit of confusion there that

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also explains why you're having a bit of a better experience my laptop because

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it's 16x9 this bezel ends up digging

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into the ground and like making it so like i can't easily

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manipulate it which is really frustrating 16 by 10 life man yeah it's

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a good one you should have chosen better everything is solved in my currency

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yeah yeah neither can we there is a solution actually to the dimness really

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but it's not clearly labeled in their manual right why would it be it is on

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their website though now when i was testing i only got 93 nits for peak

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brightness uh-huh and i was like clearly not right yeah they promised 220. i

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thought maybe it's 90 190 plus 90 is a high it's 180 it's

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closer get in there what you actually need to do

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is plug in both cables no

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so it'll work with just one as long as you're in the dark yeah

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there we go two cable solution

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not ideal but not bad i mean it's

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certainly usable okay cool so i got my excel over here i'm you know managing my

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home assistant thing here like that is a freaking lot of screen real

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estate for a laptop is it a little clumsy

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yeah and we haven't even tried to pack it up yet he already made that joke i

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know but it's a good it's a funny joke when it comes time to pack it up

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you know what i say about this i say don't hate because no one else is doing

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it better this actually

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does not take that long to pack up

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they've got a nice little some kind of i don't know like a suede alcantara to

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be clear i'm not saying it's either of those materials it's probably something much cheaper but it's they've got a

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thing on there okay unlikely to damage the screen

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got this boy here nowhere to really stow all the cables

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you're gonna need that's a bit of an oversight but hey realistically you've

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got a bag you're carrying this thing around in with your laptop anyway yeah

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late 90s form factor but very 2020s

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real estate one thing to note is that this will not be easy on your battery we

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tested it on our 17 17 MSI creator z16p

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yeah and it cut the battery from 30 like by

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33 like you lost of like a couple hours of

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battery life with a laptop like that if you weren't plugged in anyway you were

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going to have a pretty clummy experience Linus isn't here yet so i'm going to use

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this time to air my grievances these aren't damning but something that

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manufacturers should consider if they make a v2 and please make a v2 i want

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this to be great one have the screens flip vertically so

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that i can close them into the case without having them exposed during

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transport two increase the rotation of the hinge

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mechanism so i can bring the monitors in a little bit tighter three a reworker of the kickstand to be

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spring-loaded and having locking points would be great and finally brushed

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aluminum is a fingerprint magnet i don't like it and hopefully we can get better

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color calibration from the factory that would be the cherry on top hey Linus

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we're ready for you great

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the elephant in the room is of course the fact that there are two brands

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clumsy and ophia advertising the same

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lineup of products there are actually a few potential explanations for this they

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could both be rebranding a product from a third-party oem

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they could be sister brands that share products kind of like if oppo and

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oneplus had two very similar or near identical phones

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or one of them could be acting as an odm

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so that's an original design manufacturer kind of like how foxconn

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builds iphones but those are designed by

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apple and then it could be that that manufacturer is then secretly selling

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that other company's design out the back door we don't know which of these

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situations is right it's all speculation but what we can say for sure is that

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clumsy has a pretty cool product on their hands it is actually real but the

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standard small company disclaimers do apply here the documentation as we saw

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is kind of lacking and we haven't tested their customer service but that's the

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risk that you take when you go with a brand that doesn't have an established presence in your particular region but

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hey at least they've made a better first impression than slide and joy right

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