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Um, Lionus is setting up a video upload

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right now. Hey, that one's good. Hey, we're in pretty good shape here. We got

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our screen capture. We got our Twitter feed. We're one minute late. Come on,

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man. Ah, what are you trying to do to us

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here? Hold on. Some of the settings are wrong here. I just got to tweak the color. We're using a different camera

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tonight. Hopefully that uh hopefully that works out pretty well for us in

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general. How's that look? Looks pretty good. Looks better at least. See, it's

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that versus that. That's like way better, right? I wonder if half the

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problem was our settings in XSplit because that looks much more natural

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probably. All right, so welcome to the show, guys. Um, as you probably know,

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Oh, shoot. Oh, crap. This is on. Go

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away. Go away. There it went away. Okay.

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Uh, okay. You know what? Did you talk about the end of the world?

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Um, we didn't really prepare anything for this topic, but Lisa thought we

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should talk about the end of world. By the way, my voice is a little bit messed up because I'm pretty sick. I probably

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won't be talking way too much this stream, but I will try for now.

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Um, as most of you know, it was supposed

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to have been said that the world ended uh today, I think. Yeah, midnight

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tonight or something like that. Midnight tonight. I thought it was just today in general. Uh, I think it's midnight

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tonight. I could be wrong. Okay, so it's supposed to be midnight tonight, but

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then realistically it's happened a while ago because of like other places in the

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world. Black screen. All right. Oh.

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Oh, there we go. All right. Looks like

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it's going well. Volume is a little low. People are complaining about the

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volume. It's probably my voice. Oh, okay. Okay. Uh oh. Where's our remote

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thing? You got it. Okay. So, the end of the

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world. Stupidest thing I ever heard. Discuss. I agree. So, this is not going

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to be that interesting of a discussion. But there's multiple things like other

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places on the planet being at different time zones and um the fact that leap

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years exist, which kind of made it bull crap. Anyways, no, but I thought that

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the leap year compensation I thought this is the one that factors in the leap

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year compensation. Mayan calendar. They didn't have leap years then, right? But

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I thought the world was supposed to end a while ago and then they were like,

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"Oh, but wait, I don't think so." I mean, the thing is that it's not real

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scientists that are not at all that are predicting this kind of thing. Yeah. I

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like um Neil Degrasse Tyson. Have you ever heard of him? Him? I've heard I've

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heard him. Yeah. Yeah. He sent out a tweet and he was like, "Don't worry guys, if the world was going to end, I

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would tell you how and I would tell you when." Excellent. I was like, "Yes,

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yes. That is terrific. I'm just going to

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move this so that I can actually see the screen. Sorry guys, we uh we had to tear

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apart the studio a little bit last weekend and then we're going to have to

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sort of tear it apart again this weekend. And uh yeah, things have gotten

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pretty real over the last little bit for Linus Tech Tips. I'm actually working on

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my computer again, which is pretty nice. I would show you guys the progress, but

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one second. Oh, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. Yeah, I see it. No, no, it's okay.

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I'm not going to move it anymore. We're good. We're good. It's all good.

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Um, so something something, right? I can't show it to you because I have

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actually packed it up and I have put it

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in a box and I'm shipping it out Monday for the powder coating. And uh, so so

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basically I figure um, if nothing else,

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I will have at least made progress on my computer before the world ends. So, I'd

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love to take some tweets on um you know, what you guys are are doing tonight in

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preparation for the end of the world. So, here we're gonna we're going to

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throw Twitter up here and we're going to have a look at what people what people

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have to say about this. Wouldn't the end of the world as

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predicted by the Mayans have to be in their time zone? Um, presumably yes. I

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don't know. Did the Mayans have the whole time zone concept down? I really

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really don't think so. But they did know things like, you know, Then it would

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have been like a like the sun coming up. So it would still be time zone. So he

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does have a point although it's not exactly a time zone. Okay. Presumably

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yes then. Okay. So so presumably yes. I

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mean we're talking about very pseudocience at this point. Whole end of

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the world nonsense anyway. But Tom says why is shipping to Australia so

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expensive? Um because fuel costs a lot

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of money. And the thing about Australia

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is that um shipping is by

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air and it's a long flight and fuel is

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expensive. I mean the exceptions are are places like China and Hong Kong where

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they for whatever reason have like the cheapest post. I mean you know that deal

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extreme ships everything out of Asia, right? And you can buy stuff for like $2

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that has free shipping. And I'm just kind of looking at this going what? Well, if you look into a lot of it, like

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a lot of like someone was recommending that I get an aluminum backing for my S3

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and I can get one off eBay and it's like three bucks and then postage is like 50

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cents or a dollar or something, but they send it to you labeled as a gift. Yeah,

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but even that doesn't make a difference because the postage still costs the same

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for that item regardless. The only thing they're saving you money on is the

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import and duties, right? So, no, they

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actually are legit paying 50 cents or a dollar for shipping. So,

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I don't quite understand how any of that works because the reality of it is the

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prices of of like fossil fuels are dictated by forces that go beyond like

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cheap labor. Yeah. Yeah. So, I Yeah, I don't quite get that. I don't know why

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it's cheap in some places, but I do understand why it's expensive is what

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I'm trying to say. I just built a new computer for my brother. He plays League

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on the highest settings. It crashes after about 30 minutes. Any tips? You're

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the League player here. He plays for it about 30 minutes. I have

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no idea. Okay, then. Is it stressing out

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his computer? Like, we need way more information. Yeah, we need more. You

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know what? That's actually that's a good that's a good idea. You know what you should find out is you should be

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monitoring your temps using real temp as well as MSI Afterburner. Check your CPU

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and your GPU temps. If something's overheating, that can be a symptom. And

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prime 95 it. Yeah. Make sure the system's actually stable. Prime it.

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Memest it because it could be that

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something that happens like when you're 30 minutes into a game, there's

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probably, I don't know, more stuff going on. Like I haven't played League, but

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you know, more of the map is open, more team fights, a lot more graphics going on, whatnot, more particle effects. Like

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it's possible that there's some kind of instability with the system that is being triggered by that. So, or it could

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even be leaking RAM. Uh, oh, that's true. Memory, but that

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would be a software issue. So, probably not a hardware thing, but you never like

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that's still something to test. So, you should monitor your memory usage as

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well. Uh, ditching work to watch your live stream. Hello from Indonesia and

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hello back Indonesia. Good work. Yes.

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All right. Uh, what are you guys going to get on the Steam winter sale? Have

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you checked it out yet? I I I honestly haven't. I've been way too busy. I will

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check it out, but I haven't yet. Guys, I guarantee you that Slick and I will be

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less busy soon and things will get a lot

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more a lot more um lax. Nathan says, "I

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know Slick is a hacker, but do you do any programming, Linus?" The answer

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would be no. I can barely put bold tags

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on HTML input.

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So, shut up.

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I don't even think that showed up because your Twitter box. It's okay.

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Yeah. Yeah. He he he gave me a reassuring pat on the shoulder, which I

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of course uh interpreted as being purely platonic. And oh, I mean, the box will

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probably hide this, too. Oh. Oh. Whoop. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I didn't mean for

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that to

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my grandpa's probably watching this live stream. Hi, Grandpa.

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Hey, Slick. Is there anything you can recommend for a new Android user? Why

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don't you handle that one while I go get a jacket cuz I am freaking freezing.

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Okay. It's cold in here. Um, first off, if you're a gamer, if you haven't

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already heard of Humble Bundle, Humble Bundle is kind of amazing. It's a really

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cheap way to get a lot of games and support charity, which is just awesome

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on Android. Humble Bundle for Android. Yeah. Um, they've got Humble Bundle for

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a bunch of different things. There's Humble Indie Bundle. Recently, there's Humble THQ bundle, but that can't be

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Android. No, no, no. Um, but then they

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have specific Android packages. So every once in a while, like I think the most

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recent one was Humble Bun Humble Android Bundle 4. So I picked that up. And just

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give me one second. I'll figure out what games it came with. Um, and it was super

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cheap because the whole idea is that it's not that expensive, but you can pay

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however much you want. Uh, so how some people pay tons of money, it supports

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charity, all that kind of stuff. Some people like students and whatnot maybe won't pay as quite as much money. But

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then the companies that develop the games and the charities still make a lot

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of money because there's so many sales that go through. Sorry for my voice. I'm

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quite sick right now. So, in Humble Bundle, Humble Android Bundle 4, which

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is, I believe, the one that I'm talking about, I got Crayon Physics Deluxe,

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Euphoria HD, Splice, Super Brothers

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Sword and Sorcery, Walking Mars, Machinarium, Cannibal, Avdon the Black

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Fortress, Cogs, Zenbound 2, and Sword

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and Soldiers HD. That's a lot of games, and I got it for like six bucks, so

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that's actually pretty epic. Um, another big thing is Swift Key.

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SwiftKey 3 is what I'm running. I believe there's a new one called Swift

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Key Flow or something like that. It's just a keyboard app, but it's amazing.

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It's so so so so good. I recommend that completely. It learns from like your

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Twitter, your Facebook, uh your email, and all that kind of stuff. And it'll

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learn how you type. So, it'll learn um Oh, you're talking about that keyboard

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Swift key. Yeah. Yeah. Good work. Um, so it'll learn as you type things that you

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commonly type. So it's auto corrects are more tuned for you, which is kind of

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cool. And it's hilarious because it has predictive tech text every single time

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you press spacebar. So if you just open a new message and just spam spacebar,

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you get to see like what it thinks you would probably say, which can be

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hilarious. And you can start it with the different words. You start with like 'the' instead of just nothing. And it'll

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go off of 'the' and try and figure out what you would say if all you type was the. You can just press it like 30

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times. I don't know. Means nothing but is hilarious. But that's a great app.

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Um, Go SMS Pro is an awesome messaging app. It makes it so that if someone

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messages you and then you unlock your phone instead of going into the

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messaging app, it's just immediately on the screen and you can just press press

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into the text box and type right there and click send. So, you don't have to

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open the app or anything which is pretty cool. It has a lot of other features as

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well. Okay, let's do our main big topic for the night or our first big topic for

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the night. We didn't talk about this last week and we feel really bad about

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it. We do, right? This is mainly your fault, but yes. How is it my fault? I

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was in finals. I had no topics. You're the only one with topics. Well, yeah, I

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had topics. Whose fault? Okay. There was

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a rumor last week that Intel and NVIDIA

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were potentially looking at, you know, acquiring or merging or somehow

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becoming a conglomerated company of the two with Jensen Huang at the head as the

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CEO. So, um I guess ramifications of that. What's

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your initial thought besides that's Yeah, but that in like a

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scared tone, not necessarily just a holy crap tone because

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um they both seem to be choking back on the whole overclocking idea and the

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whole do-it-yourself idea. And okay, well, here we should flesh that out a

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little bit more. So, start with how what Intel's doing because they've brought

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I'm playing devil's advocate a little bit here. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but they've brought K series

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CPUs to market in the last little while. So, they've brought back multiplier

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unlocks, which have were gone since uh

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so since the P4 days, P4s had lock

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multipliers. So, before that, early P4s didn't have lock multipliers. And then I

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think the pro or no, was it P3s even that were locked? I can't even remember

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anymore. It was a long time ago. So, they took that away and now they've

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given it back to us. So, okay. Okay, so they're doing that. Uh, next is they've

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got their Intel extended warranty service thing where for I think it's an

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extra 20 bucks or something, you can get an overclocking friendly warranty on

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your CPU where they'll replace it, no questions asked.

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um all great and a lot of its marketing,

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but at the same time they're like, if any of you have seen the leaked specs

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for their next launch, like it's

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they're they're not tuning it towards gamers. They're not tuning it towards enthusiasts. They're not producing for

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the enthusiasts anymore. Yeah, they have these side things like unlocked multipliers and a little bit of extra

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warranty, but there's no like But that's speculation, too. the IPC could be

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through the roof, but Ivy's was pretty much like I know a lot of people that

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2600 case did not care when Ivy Bridge came up. Okay, that's true. But bearing

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in mind Ivy was a a talk or whichever one is just it was just a process

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shrink. Tick tock tick tock. The fact that we got any IPC improvements at all

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should have been great, right? And we did get some. We got 10 to

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15%. So, it's not that Intel is is necessarily pulling back on the

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innovation. We haven't seen anything like Conro in a while, though. Yeah. And

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like there's pretty solid speculation on the next release. Yeah. Okay. It's like

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it's from pretty reasonable, consistently accurate sources. I mean, I

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would go as far as to say that that that Haswell looks really good for something

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like a steam box, though. Yeah. Like a big picture steam box. It's not for

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really high-end enthusiasts, which is what I care about. Okay. Okay. So, what

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has NVIDIA done to run you in the last little while? Um, more than Intel, to be

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completely honest, uh, just completely dropping all their warranty support for

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partners that want to include overclocking features like MSI's uh,

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triple overvoltage. Okay. They cut it back though. They didn't drop it. You're

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still allowed to overvolt, but not but not as much. Yeah. And remember AMD

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actually I talked to AMD about this. I don't know if I told you this but I

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talked to AMD about Greenlight and I was just like have you guys heard of this?

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You know what are the what are the what are the board partners saying? And they

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were like uh no we haven't heard of this. The particular guy I was talking

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to and he was like well we have restrictions too. Yeah. So they both do

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it but Greenlight has just become a

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little bit more restrictive. Yeah. Okay. But that's I'm like that's an avenue

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that they're going down. Okay. They continue going down that avenue. In my

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opinion, that's bad. And when they come together, things like that would

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probably happen faster. Okay. Okay. What else has NVIDIA done to make you all

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butt hurt? Well, that's mainly it. That's mainly it. Okay. Um, and then

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like uh I find separation in companies is usually just a better thing in

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general for consumer. Maybe not for them, but for us. What about the

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technology they could deliver though? Like what if Intel and NVIDIA between

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NVIDIA's strength in ARM development and

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GPU on the mobile side on the notebook

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side and I don't I mean notebook is technically mobile but like smartphones

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and tablets mobile and desktops what could that expertise bring

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us because you look at sort of everyone was really excited about the AMD ATI

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acquisition. Yeah. And the problem was that nothing

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enthusiast grade really emerged from it. But I think we can agree APU is cool for

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a budget enthusiast. If you were if you

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were actually on the kind of budget that would that would dictate an APU

00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:10.880
purchase, would you be pretty excited that you can get graphics performance that's literally double what you can get

00:16:09.040 --> 00:16:14.720
from Intel? Yeah, for sure. That's that's a thing. But then like with Intel

00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:18.959
and NVIDIA, yeah, they could release good things like that. Um, which would

00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:24.320
be great for big picture. It would it would be great for stuff like big picture. It could resurrect PC gaming as

00:16:21.839 --> 00:16:28.320
we maybe not as we know it, but compared to console, these are all good possible

00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:32.240
things, but then a bad possible thing is that they could just outright kill AMD

00:16:29.920 --> 00:16:36.240
ATI. Again, I don't think they would want to.

00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:39.920
No, but they're already doing it without really necessarily wanting to without

00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:44.160
teaming up, which is scary because you want that AMD

00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:50.000
ATI, you want that competitor. Hopefully they get bigger, but you want a competitor of

00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:54.000
some sort, right? We want a competitor of some sort. Okay. So, and like Adam,

00:16:52.800 --> 00:16:58.720
yeah, whatever. So, they're not going to become a monopoly, but you want a like

00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:01.839
market competitor. Okay. Well, I'm done playing devil's

00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:05.360
advocate now, so I guess I'll express what would be my biggest concern. Um,

00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:11.679
like I don't really see the direction they're headed in terms of development as a problem because I

00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:17.039
am, and this isn't going to be popular, but I am I'm kind of on the side of of

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these companies in some ways where where I'm saying, you know what, we actually

00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:24.880
have enough computing power right now on a CPU um for a mainstream user. I think

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it's enough. I think it's enough for the next five years at least. Um whereas

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what I want to see is I want to see the PC mature as a platform.

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as a as a as a consistent experience,

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right? But you can develop stuff for both ends of the spectrum. Like it's

00:17:41.280 --> 00:17:47.120
they they seem to be narrowing their product scopes at the same time. And

00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:52.000
like you can say that, but then there's always going to be the people like me

00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:54.000
and I think like you um that are you

00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:57.520
know what my PC spec is? No. Yeah, exactly. But like look at the car

00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:00.799
aspect. People build cars that are incredibly fast. People buy cars that

00:17:59.280 --> 00:18:06.480
are incredibly fast and they will never be able to use because it's flatout

00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:09.360
illegal. Okay. Okay. Either way, I I

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agree that I don't have a problem with um because I don't think they're making

00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:17.360
a yugo here. Like I think that Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, Haswell, I think

00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:22.400
all of these architectures are very compelling. Um and I mean Intel also has

00:18:20.080 --> 00:18:26.559
to adapt to the slower upgrade cycle of the desktop computer. So while they

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could if everyone was upgrading their computer every two to three years, they

00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:34.799
could develop a new CPU every two to three years because all those people are going to come buy it. Whereas if people

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have slid into a five six year upgrade cycle before they make a dramatic before

00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:43.440
they even need a dramatic change in performance, we're talking 5 years into

00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:47.840
the last one they made and people are still kind of just getting to upgrade to

00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:50.320
that. Like you're obviously not why do you even need to develop anything new

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because you still have plenty of customers who are going to buy what you developed. So, I mean, I think it's a

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response to that. I think again, it's not a Yugo. It's more like a Civic where

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it's a perfectly functional vehicle that's perfectly good for, you know,

00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:09.840
even if you want to go fast once in a while. You know, you got the SI model, a

00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:14.160
K series SI. My problem with all of this

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is the is that longer development cycle.

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And I don't know if it's anything that either Intel or NVIDIA can control, but

00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:23.840
it seems like they're the ones that are most

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complacent if you look back historically. So Jensen, who would be

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the the the visionary leader, and he's a visionary leader, there's no doubt. Um

00:19:29.919 --> 00:19:36.320
having met him only once, um I got I got

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the the honor of sitting at his table

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when um when I was at an NVIDIA thing

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for about 45 minutes. Um just kind of

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chatting with him a little bit. listening to him talk about the industry and and all that kind of stuff sort of

00:19:47.360 --> 00:19:54.240
in a more intimate setting, not on a stage. It was very it was awesome

00:19:51.280 --> 00:19:57.880
because he's a pioneer in so many ways. But um you know, Jensen, if you're

00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:04.000
watching, you know, you're cool. Yeah.

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Um so, so him at the helm, but you look

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at what they did with something like 8800. 8800 is a great example of when

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NVIDIA like came out of the door just

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kicking ass and taking names. 8800 destroyed 2900 XD. Just was like, "Yeah,

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whatever." It was so good that it was

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still good enough like one and a half generations later. So NVIDIA released

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the same thing as 9800 GTX. Then the

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same thing as a talk as a 9800 GTX plus

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just as a die shrink. Then they released a flagship GPU that was just two of them

00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:48.400
together. 9800 GX2. Yeah. And that was

00:20:45.919 --> 00:20:53.679
over a course of a very long period of time. They didn't replace 8800 GTX with

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ultra until I think 9 or 10 months into the cycle. Um because AMD had nothing to

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respond with. So, what I don't like about an AM and you look at uh Intel's

00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:07.440
complacency with P4, they were so far ahead of Barton that they were just like

00:21:05.600 --> 00:21:11.600
they were just releasing like, you know, new Northwood cores. They were they were

00:21:09.679 --> 00:21:14.240
calling these architecturals shifts when all they were doing was bumping the

00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:21.679
front side bus. There wasn't even a performance difference. Northwood B and

00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:23.280
C is like nothing.

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Actually, Northwood A for that matter isn't that far off. We're talking clock

00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:32.080
speed bumps and like, you know, cash tweaks here. Um, so, so looking back

00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:36.000
historically, both of these guys are very complacent when nothing happens.

00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:39.679
So, we'd be taking the two most complacent guys who are already in

00:21:37.840 --> 00:21:44.559
positions of power, putting them in a position of undisputable power over

00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:48.000
almost everything. Oh, yeah. I mean, we discussed Tegra 4 a little bit today,

00:21:46.320 --> 00:21:53.200
which is going to be 6x the performance of Tegra 3. Bearing in mind that, you

00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:58.880
know, the only real competitor for Tegra right now is going to be um what is it?

00:21:55.720 --> 00:22:00.640
Crate, which is who is that? I can't

00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:04.799
remember. I know that's the code name, but yeah, code name Crate. Um so, so the

00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:09.600
only real they only have a couple real competitors left. TI's already backed

00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:10.880
off. Um and then Apple's the only other

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one that's really relevant, but they're always going to be that closed platform anyway, who, you know, hippies like you

00:22:14.320 --> 00:22:21.919
will never be interested in. Um, so they're going to have that.

00:22:19.679 --> 00:22:24.480
They're going to have on the on the on the notebook. I mean, you look at what

00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:34.159
Intel does with something like an Ultrabook branding where they lock it down to a CPU, a chipset, a wireless

00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:36.880
chipset, and a form factor. Yeah. And a

00:22:34.159 --> 00:22:40.559
GPU. They're going to add that. However, the experience will be better because

00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:45.120
something like NVIDIA Optimus, which allows is the switchable graphics, is

00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:49.679
going to be that much cleaner. In fact, you'll probably have an NVIDIA GeForce

00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:53.760
chip. Yeah. In sort of two, three years from now on the CPU itself, which would

00:22:51.919 --> 00:22:57.919
actually be kind of freaking awesome. Yeah. Like there's a lot of cool stuff

00:22:54.960 --> 00:23:01.039
that they could do. I just I just worry about market dominance and complacency

00:23:00.159 --> 00:23:07.919
and all that kind of stuff that you said. There's like no desire to push the enthusiast side, which worries me a lot.

00:23:06.480 --> 00:23:13.039
I mean, you look at even something like you look at how quickly NVIDIA rolled

00:23:09.760 --> 00:23:15.039
out 580 versus 480 because 480 wasn't

00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:18.480
competitive. They can turn it on when they want to. However, it was very

00:23:16.159 --> 00:23:23.360
expensive. It cost them a fortune to do it. So, they're capable of like

00:23:21.120 --> 00:23:26.600
executing, but without the proddding. Um, we've been sitting on 680 for a

00:23:25.919 --> 00:23:33.440
while now. And 780 is going to come kind of

00:23:30.320 --> 00:23:35.039
sort of whenever. And, uh, you know,

00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:39.440
they had a chip they could have released as as a 680 or a 685. They've been

00:23:37.520 --> 00:23:42.960
sitting on it. It's a Tesla right now. that could just as easily be a GeForce

00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:47.200
GPU if they put it on PCB with some display outputs. So,

00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:51.200
but it's much more expensive to produce. Oh, yeah. Um, on the other hand, I mean,

00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:54.640
and that's a thing that I I guess is is frustrating for me is that it's not like

00:23:53.120 --> 00:23:58.000
an enthusiast isn't willing to pay $1,000 for a GPU. That That's okay. This

00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:03.840
is another thing that I meant to bring up, but just totally forgot. What happened to like computers used to be

00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:09.280
really expensive and people would go out and buy them if they had like like why

00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:14.000
not just bring out the extreme branding but like actually make it extreme

00:24:11.520 --> 00:24:17.760
branding again instead of the like ever so slightly better that it is right now

00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:20.400
like actually make it crush stuff and like have stuff there for NVIDIA, have

00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:25.039
stuff there for everyone where it's just like this crazy premier tier of just

00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:31.840
awesome economies of scale. I mean, you look at what it costs for something like

00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:34.600
um an 8 core Zeon, which really is the

00:24:31.840 --> 00:24:39.679
pinnacle of what Intel can manufacture? You know, would an

00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:42.880
enthusiast pay two or three grand for a

00:24:39.679 --> 00:24:44.400
CPU? If the volumes were low enough that

00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:47.240
for Intel to look at it and go, "Okay, we can justify the development on this.

00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:53.120
We have to charge three grand per CPU." Would you

00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:56.720
today? because I'm sure Intel, not me, but I know people that would, and I

00:24:55.120 --> 00:25:02.320
wonder how many they would need. Hypothetically, let's say they release a

00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:05.440
CPU with a 210 or 250 watt TDP because

00:25:02.320 --> 00:25:08.320
no cares were given. And it's 12 cores

00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:11.840
and it's clocked at 4.5 GHz and it really is like the state-of-the-art

00:25:09.919 --> 00:25:15.760
modern technology. They're throwing out 3/4 of the dies they produce for this

00:25:13.600 --> 00:25:20.400
thing. It costs three to four grand. How many of those could you sell? you you

00:25:17.760 --> 00:25:26.320
consult people on a lot of systems if they really could have that kind of

00:25:21.760 --> 00:25:28.240
power. H personally I only know one guy

00:25:26.320 --> 00:25:31.360
that would move for that, right? But then that's my circle of people and I

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:36.559
know one guy that But then I can tell you how many hundreds of 20 35 70ks you

00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:39.600
can sell. Oh, exactly. Yeah. But I'm just I'm just surprised that they don't

00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:43.360
have like like a lot of brands like having that one line that doesn't

00:25:41.520 --> 00:25:46.960
necessarily make a lot of money but just is their like claim to fame of just

00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:51.120
ultimate badassery. But you're already Intel. You're already the ultimate

00:25:49.080 --> 00:25:54.400
badasser. Do you care? I want that to exist. You're already NVIDIA. You

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:58.320
already have the GeForce experience. You already have the 690, the cream of the

00:25:56.320 --> 00:26:04.080
cream. You can already engineer a dual GPU for this current generation that AMD

00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:08.080
couldn't do. They handed off 7990 development like half finished to Power

00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:13.279
Cololor. They were just like, "We can't do this. We we give up." That's why

00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:16.279
Powerol is the only 7990 manufacturer. So

00:26:16.320 --> 00:26:21.600
yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Okay, we really have no idea until it's

00:26:20.080 --> 00:26:25.360
released. Do a couple and and yeah, we'll talk about this more maybe, you

00:26:23.520 --> 00:26:28.640
know, if that rumor becomes more concrete because right now I'm kind of

00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:33.760
looking at it. Go. I'm very skeptical. But here, do you want to do a couple tweets while I find our next topic?

00:26:31.760 --> 00:26:40.279
Sure. Because I do have a few topics. I don't have any way to scroll. Uh it's

00:26:35.679 --> 00:26:40.279
right here. Just uh arrow keys.

00:26:41.679 --> 00:26:48.360
Oh, right. Wait. maybe go up to the top and just see if we've got any. Yeah, 170

00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:53.960
new tweets. So, yeah, people apparently do want to

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.960
discuss this.

00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:59.840
Um, I don't know how to say your name. I'm very sorry. It is technically

00:26:58.320 --> 00:27:05.600
possible to recover raw data from an SSD, but it's very unlikely and much

00:27:03.360 --> 00:27:09.520
much much much harder. And many times I've had data recovery guys tell me for

00:27:07.679 --> 00:27:13.919
all intents and purposes is impossible. Yeah. Like I wouldn't bother like

00:27:12.159 --> 00:27:17.279
technically yes but I wouldn't bother even trying like something that sorry

00:27:15.919 --> 00:27:23.120
okay I'll go check a topic after something that they could do is they could resolder like if the controller

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:27.840
dies they could resolder the controller and maybe but understand that the way

00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:34.400
SSDs store data even that actually might not work because SSDs inherently write

00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:39.120
to the flash as randomly as possible. So, it's not like an SD card where you

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:42.799
could take that flash chip, put it into a reader, and pull the data off. And

00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:47.600
even then, that's really hard because of the because of the style of data. Hard

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:55.640
discs are not that bad to recover stuff from. Any other type of it's just not

00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:55.640
back up your data. Sorry, I'll be back.

00:27:57.360 --> 00:28:02.880
Uh, are you excited for CES? Yes. I'm ridiculously excited for CES. My voice

00:28:01.520 --> 00:28:06.520
might not show it right now because I'm ridiculously sick as well, but CES is

00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:12.720
going to be amazing. Um, what new or revolutionary tech is in

00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:16.240
the works? I think we will figure that out at CES.

00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:22.559
Okay, I'm going to start an argument with you.

00:28:19.159 --> 00:28:25.520
Um, I would postulate that the optimal

00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:30.159
RPM for a fan for a modern gaming system is anywhere from 700 to 800 RPM.

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:34.480
Is that because there's not a huge difference between that and much higher RPMs? Or is that because you don't like

00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:40.039
the sound? I don't like the sound. It's annoying.

00:28:36.120 --> 00:28:43.200
Okay. I don't care. I like my

00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:45.520
SC. For reference, I have Scythe AR-15s,

00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:50.960
which are the 1850 RPM. Just call them GTs like every normal person. Whatever,

00:28:47.679 --> 00:28:53.039
man. Um GT 1850 RPM. The only sound that

00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:57.600
really comes off them is the like worring sound of the wind. So, it's very

00:28:55.039 --> 00:29:00.640
smooth. There's some motor noise. Not really. What do you mean not really? I

00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:04.799
heard them, too. There's some motor noise. And you hear it when you put it up to your ear, not when it's in a

00:29:03.360 --> 00:29:07.919
computer. You put enough of them together, you're going to hear it. And I

00:29:06.399 --> 00:29:12.559
And why do you have to hear the whooing noise? I'm not saying you have to. I'm

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:16.240
saying it's technically there. The second I put headphones on, which I wear

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:19.120
headphones 100% of the time that I'm gaming. If there's any amount of noise

00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:24.000
coming through them, I don't hear my system. Okay. Well, here's this. I would argue that it doesn't matter how loud

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:29.600
the computer is when you're gaming because when you're gaming, you're focused on something else. The time when

00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:33.360
the noise matters to me is more like at idle or when I'm working on a document

00:29:31.679 --> 00:29:38.080
or if I'm working on something where I don't have sound constantly like if I'm

00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:40.320
video editing. Why would I want to hear

00:29:38.080 --> 00:29:44.399
the word of fans? I don't hear it. It's totally unnecessary though. Tell me a

00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:48.960
modern component that will actually benefit from you putting higher than 800

00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:52.880
RPM fans in your case. That's not the point,

00:29:50.600 --> 00:29:55.320
though. I I like playing around with overclock. I like playing with the

00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:01.120
cooling with those AR-15s, whatever GTS. I can get really,

00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:05.600
really good temperatures. I like those fans. They're really good fans. I The

00:30:03.760 --> 00:30:08.799
sound does not bother me at all. Why not turn them down? I don't mind white

00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:16.080
noise. If it could be silent, why not have it be silent? Because I don't care.

00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:18.960
I just do not care. It's It's a It's a

00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:21.919
worring like not annoying sound that's in the background. It's just white

00:30:20.080 --> 00:30:25.440
noise. We're used to white noise. If you're in absolute silence, you go

00:30:23.360 --> 00:30:29.200
crazy. Okay? And I always listen to music. Or

00:30:27.520 --> 00:30:32.480
if I'm video editing, I'm listening to the the audio track that's in the

00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:36.799
background. Or if I'm playing games, I'm listening to the audio in the game or music. Or I'm sitting there talking to

00:30:35.360 --> 00:30:43.760
people on Skype. Or like there's always sound coming through. What about people around you then? I don't care.

00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:46.960
Okay. So basically, the only reason you could possibly disagree with me about

00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:51.600
this is because you're inconsiderate. No, it's because I don't care. And

00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:55.919
literally no one else does either. Okay, fine. I challenge all the silence

00:30:53.840 --> 00:31:00.240
freaks who are watching to tweet that people do care about computer noise.

00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:06.240
Okay, then why don't you try and silence your fridge or anything else in your

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:07.520
house only makes noise. So, isn't it

00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:13.120
more annoying that it's not consistent? I don't hang out in my kitchen.

00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:17.600
I mean, I silenced my media PC. I wouldn't That makes more sense. I

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:22.320
wouldn't buy a TV or an AV receiver with a fan, right? Would you buy a TV with a

00:31:20.399 --> 00:31:26.000
fan? Who's watching TV where they're desktop computers? Okay. Who's watching

00:31:24.159 --> 00:31:29.840
TV without the sound on? By your argument. What? Because if you have the

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:35.720
sound on No, because in movies there's silent points. Okay. In a game there

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:38.480
would be a silent point. Not that

00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:41.799
often on video editing sequence it doesn't really matter.

00:31:41.919 --> 00:31:49.120
Totally disagree. It's unnecessary. Why do you need Why do you need the noise?

00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:54.000
It's not much noise. It's not absolutely loud. Oh, actually I have another random

00:31:51.919 --> 00:32:01.519
topic before we jump into a bigger one. So, um, sorry. Mark Mark Hammer uh,

00:31:58.399 --> 00:32:04.080
tweeted to me that his wife is 30 months

00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:08.200
pregnant and 30 months 30 weeks pregnant. Yeah, she's like she's like

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:14.960
this big and she's like huge and an alien. And

00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:20.559
no, Mark, your wife's not huge. Unless she is huge, in which case like, sorry,

00:32:17.840 --> 00:32:23.760
man, but he might like it. Yeah, he might be into that. I can't judge, dude.

00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:28.679
All right, you're right. You know what? You're right. I don't judge you for

00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.679
being into that.

00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:36.320
I judge him. Whatever. I'm too sick to care right

00:32:34.399 --> 00:32:40.360
now. His wife is 30 weeks pregnant and she wants to name the baby Lionus.

00:32:40.760 --> 00:32:48.159
Discuss. Okay. It's has nothing to do with you,

00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:53.760
I'm guessing. No, I probably it does, but you know. Oh, yeah. Whatever. Yeah,

00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:57.200
I don't think so. He He wants me to Hold

00:32:53.760 --> 00:32:59.440
on. His tweet says, "Lion, the wife is

00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:05.799
30 weeks prego and clearly not thinking straight. Wants to call the baby Lionus

00:33:01.919 --> 00:33:08.399
on the live cast. Can you unconvince

00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:11.679
her?" I'd like your thoughts first. And remember, whether or not you get fired

00:33:10.080 --> 00:33:16.320
tonight could hinge on your response here. I usually get fired three times

00:33:14.399 --> 00:33:19.039
tonight. That's true. You fired me yet today. No, you've been fired once today.

00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:22.080
When was that? You got fired earlier when when you said you were going to do

00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:28.600
something that I didn't like and I was like, "Well, I could just fire you." You're fired. Oh, I don't remember.

00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:31.399
Whatever. That's how much I cared.

00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:35.279
Um I don't know. Whatever. Linus is fine. At least there's one good person.

00:33:33.679 --> 00:33:39.200
You can look up to Linus Torvoltz. That's a cool person that has that name.

00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:49.600
Really? You know what? This is this is sort of this is sort of off that topic,

00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:53.840
but I would say Lionus Torvalds is far from the most important person to ever

00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:57.600
bear the name Lionus. Come on. I'm sure there's more, but Come

00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:01.440
on. Come on. Come on. Take take a not thinking of it. Basically basically like

00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:07.120
the father of everything we know about vitamin C. Oh, I'm not going to remember

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:09.040
his last name. Two Nobel prizes. Yeah.

00:34:07.120 --> 00:34:13.760
Yeah. Yeah. One of only, I think, two people to ever win two Nobel prizes.

00:34:12.560 --> 00:34:18.480
Yeah. I know. I don't remember. Okay. Lionus Pauling, who is actually the

00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:23.599
Lionus for whom I'm named. Oh, really? Yes.

00:34:20.240 --> 00:34:25.280
Everyone assumes because I'm a dork that

00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:29.040
it's because of Torvalds. Yeah, it's because of So that that it's because of

00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:32.720
Torvalds, but I'm like I'm Yeah, that would have been odd timing. The timing

00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:37.599
is not quite right. He's like first developing. I would even go as far as to

00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:40.480
say his Torvald is number three.

00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:46.720
Who's after that guy? Lionus Vanpel, who basically taught us the meaning of

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:48.079
Christmas. Oh, I didn't know. Okay.

00:34:46.720 --> 00:34:52.560
Okay. Well, you know what? We're going to have to uh we're going to have to find the uh we're going to have to find

00:34:50.879 --> 00:34:57.520
the YouTube clip for Slick here because he clearly he clearly needs uh needs a

00:34:55.520 --> 00:35:01.599
little lesson on sort of the importance of of Christmas. And since we're coming

00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:06.079
up on Christmas and yeah, I'm calling it Christmas because holiday is stupid. Uh,

00:35:04.240 --> 00:35:10.440
whatever holiday you're currently celebrating. Yeah, whatever holiday. I'm

00:35:07.520 --> 00:35:14.960
celebrating Christmas. So, yeah. Uh, Lionus Christmas.

00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:20.480
So, I would go as far as to say this is the second most important Lionus.

00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:26.079
Okay. Yeah. Okay. I didn't recognize the name right away. There we go. Oh, wrong

00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:28.400
one. There we go. There we go. Make it

00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:31.599
full screen. I muted it. Oh, no. It's It's low. It's low. It should be okay.

00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:35.560
Still, it's There we go, guys. So, this is this is the meaning of Christmas.

00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.320
We're just going to let them watch. Yeah. Yeah. I see.

00:35:47.680 --> 00:35:52.680
I sure hope there's audio. Yeah.

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:59.480
This would be a very stale point of the episode.

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:02.480
great joy to all

00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.880
you

00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:16.640
Christy in the manger.

00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:19.040
There was the angel a multitude of the heavenly

00:36:19.640 --> 00:36:22.880
host in the

00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:37.359
highest. So, there you go, guys. If

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:41.760
you're not familiar already with with Lionus from Charlie Brown, who is also

00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:45.920
not the Lionus I'm named for, although I've had a lot of people assume that,

00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:51.760
uh, that's the Lionus Christmas monologue, which is probably not as

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.760
important as Linux,

00:36:52.680 --> 00:36:57.160
but whatever, man.

00:36:58.160 --> 00:37:03.760
I hope there was audio.

00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:08.040
Uh, no one's saying anything about it, so I guess it was probably okay.

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:12.200
Christmas tips. Yeah. Okay. So, why don't we do some

00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:17.040
tweets for a bit here, guys? Okay. Bit Phoenix Recon Lionus.

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:20.480
Lionus tips indeed. Oh, yeah. Okay. Speaking of other awesome Lionuses,

00:37:18.560 --> 00:37:24.720
there's some soccer player football European football um over in Europe

00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:30.240
somewhere. And then there's Lionus Omar who plays for the Edmonton Oilers. Do

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:33.200
you like have a catalog of um Linuses?

00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:38.480
No, but I'm sort of I I I noticed them. There's Lionus Chan who goes to like SFU

00:37:35.520 --> 00:37:42.240
or something. What? Yeah. How do you Why would you possibly know that? Facebook.

00:37:40.720 --> 00:37:46.079
I was like, "How many Lionuses are there?" Oh, yeah. One of my favorite

00:37:44.240 --> 00:37:50.160
things to say when I call in to like Shaw or something is like they're like,

00:37:48.240 --> 00:37:54.160
"Can I get your name and phone number?" I'm like, "Yeah, you can probably search

00:37:51.839 --> 00:37:57.560
for me by name. It's okay." I I'm pretty sure I'm the only line of Sebastian,

00:37:56.000 --> 00:38:05.520
which is kind of neat. Uh, okay. So, someone says,

00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:10.320
"You're 26. I thought you were 30 plus."

00:38:05.520 --> 00:38:13.040
Do I look that old? No. Like,

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:17.599
it's probably just cuz your job. Oh, because people knew you were product

00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:19.440
manager at NCX. Oh, okay. Quiet fan

00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:24.079
solution. Quiet fan solution. Noctua F-S series. In fact, we got some for the uh

00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:29.040
for the behind me here is going to be our heat sink and water cooler test

00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.640
bench. We are going to switch from using

00:38:29.040 --> 00:38:37.040
random fans that are included with things to only using Noctua pressure

00:38:34.240 --> 00:38:41.839
optimized fans at a fixed RPM that I find acceptable to where I would say

00:38:39.520 --> 00:38:45.839
this is a quiet computer if you configure it like this. And that's going

00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:49.200
to be in ter his his terms like silent. So that's going to be awesome and those

00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:54.720
are great fans. Yeah. So basically what you guys can assume is that if you want

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.480
a quiet computer and you get good quality fans and you buy the heat sink

00:38:56.560 --> 00:39:01.839
that I say gets these temperatures, you will be able to reproduce our results.

00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:06.800
So that's the objective there. So instead of just it being like random

00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:11.040
then and and because so often like you end up every heat sink review ends up

00:39:09.200 --> 00:39:14.640
being the same thing. Yeah. It's like here's the temperature reading and

00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:17.520
here's the noise reading and you have to decide what's the trade-off and it's

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:21.920
like in decb and you're sitting there going well a decibb are completely

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.280
meaningless to most people because they don't really understand the scale.

00:39:23.839 --> 00:39:31.280
Remember every three decimals is a doubling of volume. Number two is that

00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.720
the the quality of the sound is way more

00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:38.800
important than how loud it is. Definitely like a a a light rattle will

00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:45.119
drive me crazy. Oh yeah, 100%. But a low drone, which could actually be like

00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:47.440
louder, it's fine. Well, not fine, but

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:51.040
fine to me. Rattling pisses me off, too. There's a difference between in like we

00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:55.359
were talking earlier about really quiet computers and then what I was describing. There's a huge difference

00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:59.520
between what I was describing and like one that rattles. If it rattles at all,

00:39:57.200 --> 00:40:03.520
it'll piss me off. But a very consistent droning sound, I find perfectly

00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:07.280
acceptable. And I mean, lots of little fans are actually not that loud. Like

00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:11.599
the 40 mil fan on the saber-tooth actually does pretty okay. Not loud. Oh,

00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:19.119
I I think it's annoying. Well, pretty okay for total audio, but then like you

00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:21.040
just very high pitched, so it it uh okay

00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:24.720
like the the decibb will probably not be that loud.

00:40:22.720 --> 00:40:28.000
I really don't care about fan noise. I used to run my GTX 480 with the stock

00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:32.160
cooler. Well, yeah, but the stock cooler on the 480 doesn't get that loud. It's not really loud. It gets really hot, but

00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:39.680
it's really loud. That's okay. I mean, it's not like uh, you know, a 4870 X2.

00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:41.200
Like, that's a loud card. Uh, what are

00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:46.800
your favorite 120 mil fans? Knocked to a F-S series. Cooler for i5 3570K. I don't

00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:50.079
know. Like Hyper212. That's the most common. Yeah. Hyper 212.

00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:56.880
Or if you want something really nice, knock to a D14. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Knock

00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.520
to a D14. Side with slick. As an audio engineer, I would silence my studio rig,

00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:04.000
but you just won't hear a fan when editing anyway. Uh what is the PNY

00:41:01.839 --> 00:41:07.680
Quadro 6000? It's a workstation graphics card for accelerating things like um

00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:12.160
particle effects when you're doing a after post-processing on video editing

00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:16.079
and stuff like that. What does Linus mean? It means golden or flax

00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:24.000
inherently to do with the effect of naming your children

00:41:20.359 --> 00:41:25.760
Linus. Oh, okay. People agree with you.

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:30.240
Oh yeah, you were fired today for calling a hockey period halftime. So

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:34.960
that's three so far today. He called the hockey break halftime. Okay. What kind

00:41:33.359 --> 00:41:38.560
of Canadian are you? Not only am I horribly sick and not fully at it today,

00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.920
usually the second intermission is referred to as a halftime. You did you

00:41:40.640 --> 00:41:48.240
just call it an intermission? Oh, okay. Okay. Here, let

00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:53.680
me explain to you something. Okay. Hockey has three periods. Yeah. No

00:41:51.040 --> 00:41:59.680
intermission is half. Okay. None of them are called halftime.

00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.760
No, I said referenced as No. Yeah, the

00:41:59.680 --> 00:42:05.200
second one is often references. No, it is. It's only called halftime. Okay,

00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:09.839
they're going to rip you apart cuz it's only called halftime in NBA and NFL

00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:13.280
because they have four quarters. I know. I played sports. I played hockey. Okay.

00:42:11.839 --> 00:42:16.880
Anyone you know who ever called the second period of a hockey game halftime

00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:20.160
is a It's just so you can discern between them easily. No, it

00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:26.839
isn't. It's called the first and second intermission.

00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:26.839
Okay, settle down, big man.

00:42:27.359 --> 00:42:33.880
I'll play you in hockey. Do it. I will win. Actually, I don't want to do that.

00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:39.280
I will destroy you. No, I'm planning on getting a 3570K. Is

00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:42.400
the H100i worth on a different cooler will be just fine if you're only

00:42:40.240 --> 00:42:46.000
planning to go to 4.2? However, I would go as far as to say that if you're going

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:52.480
to 4.2, the overclocking bug will probably bite you. So, get something

00:42:48.720 --> 00:42:55.839
better and push it. Why stop at 4.2? Low

00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:58.400
RPM fans rule. Bam. Noise blockers. 700

00:42:55.839 --> 00:43:04.319
RPM inaudible. Yes. And he makes a good point. I would say you're way better off

00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:07.200
with 10 low RPM fans than one high RPM

00:43:04.319 --> 00:43:10.800
fan. Yeah. But the same argument as before. I don't mind the droning noise.

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:16.880
So it doesn't really I mean that's why for you for those of you who are following my personal rig, even though

00:43:13.839 --> 00:43:18.960
I'm a silence freak, I have two 120s in

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:24.960
the top, two 92s in the back. So that's four so far. I have another four on my

00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:28.680
radiator at the bottom, another two on

00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:31.040
my radiator at the top.

00:43:28.680 --> 00:43:35.480
And did I cover the radiator at the front already? Yeah, I think I did. So 6

00:43:34.560 --> 00:43:39.760
+ 4 I don't know, like 10. Why did I say

00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:44.319
11? I don't know. Whatever. A lot of fans, but I have them controlled with my

00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:48.079
MQTT balancer. So most of them are off a lot of the time and then the ones that

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:53.440
are on are running at an extremely low RPM. So, I can honestly barely hear my

00:43:50.680 --> 00:43:56.480
system. Line is pimp tips. I have eight fans in my case and three graphics

00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.800
cards, but I don't care because Battlefield 3 drowns them out. All

00:43:58.720 --> 00:44:06.480
right, play your precious Battlefield 3. I like the sound of fans. I can't stand

00:44:03.319 --> 00:44:08.480
it. Uh, yeah, Slick. Maybe if you put on

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:11.839
a jacket, you wouldn't get sick. I'll let you feel that one. That has

00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.839
literally nothing to do with me being sick.

00:44:15.040 --> 00:44:21.480
Oh my goodness. I'm just going to skim over that anyways, but look it up. It

00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:27.280
doesn't No. New big topic. Instagram owns your photos.

00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:31.760
Didn't they? No, they revoked that when like a couple days ago. Yesterday? No, I

00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:36.079
think it was a few days ago. Oh, all right. I don't I don't know the whole story, but they they they announced the

00:44:34.720 --> 00:44:40.079
big thing. Everyone freaked out and they bounced back and forth for a little bit. I don't know exactly where they are now.

00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.920
Okay. I don't know. Let me see. When did I send that to myself? That's from three

00:44:42.319 --> 00:44:47.440
days ago. So, it must have been Okay, you know what? Maybe you guys tweet at

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.160
us and let us know if it's been I could be wrong, but I know I know they bounced

00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:54.720
around a little bit after it was originally announced. Let's pretend for now that it hasn't happened that they or

00:44:53.440 --> 00:45:00.880
that it has happened and they haven't retracted it. That is the craziest thing

00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:02.720
ever because basically their assumption

00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:07.760
like they're operating like almost like a like it's almost a piracy issue at

00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:14.720
that point because they're operating like a torrent site that was

00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:18.319
monetizing like the the movies that they're that they're uh letting people

00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:22.079
download like like that's what they're doing. They're acting as like like a con

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:25.440
except that they're hosting the content too. So it's like even worse. But in the

00:45:24.160 --> 00:45:31.599
agreement, you're giving it to them, aren't you? You're giving it to them, but it might not be yours,

00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:36.720
right? Because you could upload whatever there, right? So, they would be

00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:42.560
monetizing and and asking for the right to sell something that

00:45:40.040 --> 00:45:47.280
potentially you don't even own to give them, which would either be a liability

00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:50.960
for them or would actually be a personal liability for whoever uploaded it. I'm

00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:54.880
sure they'd find some way to make it a personal liability for the uploader. and

00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:57.599
like photos taken of people within houses and stuff. Yeah. You're not

00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:02.720
allowed to just public. Not allowed to do that. You can do it if you're in a public area, but not if you're just

00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.000
randomly in a house or in a some type of private area. And so whose liability is

00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:12.560
that now? If you take a picture of someone and and it's not even just private area like a house, like private

00:46:09.359 --> 00:46:14.839
area like a library. Oh yeah. Like not

00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:20.720
public land like a like like holy crap. I was just I was like I

00:46:18.319 --> 00:46:26.400
was looking at I was like really that's just insane. And it's generated so much

00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.280
bad publicity for Facebook. Yeah, of course. Because it just gets people

00:46:27.839 --> 00:46:34.240
talking about, well, here's all the other, you know, bull crap things that

00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:36.079
Facebook's done and just gets that like

00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:40.160
negative buzz. I mean, will Facebook ex here's a discussion topic. Will Facebook

00:46:37.839 --> 00:46:45.680
exist in five years? I I find this very interesting and I have no idea. I see it

00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:51.359
like Facebook in everyone's lives as far as I knew used to be so much

00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:52.720
bigger like a year, two years agoish.

00:46:51.359 --> 00:46:56.800
like year and a half, two years ago, it used to be huge. And now I see a lot

00:46:55.040 --> 00:47:03.319
more people going away from it. What are they going to though? Plus sucks. Just

00:46:59.839 --> 00:47:05.280
nothing. Back to calling and text

00:47:03.319 --> 00:47:08.720
messages because I think a lot of people are getting on there getting like a

00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:12.560
thousand friends and then going, "Holy crap, I don't know most of these people

00:47:10.240 --> 00:47:16.560
or care about them." It's offensive when you delete them. It's offensive. It just

00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:20.160
gets kind of like this awkward kind of space and then you start creeping other

00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:25.040
people's profiles. other people start creeping your profile and you're just like, I don't want this to be the way

00:47:22.720 --> 00:47:28.000
that I figure out who people are and I don't want this be the way that people

00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:32.079
figure out who I am. On the other hand, it can be extremely convenient for certain things at the same time. Yeah.

00:47:30.720 --> 00:47:35.839
So, it's it's got a lot of pluses and minuses, but I think it's not just like

00:47:33.839 --> 00:47:38.800
the golden holy grail that it used to be. I think a lot of people are seeing

00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.280
that they don't necessarily need or want it all the time. My mom's a teacher and

00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:49.839
her whole thing is that the perception of Facebook is changing to like that's

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:53.119
something my mom and dad and grandma and grandpa use to get in touch with me. See

00:47:51.680 --> 00:47:58.400
that's more interesting because she's more in tuned with the kids.

00:47:56.319 --> 00:48:02.640
So that is to me I'm looking at that going okay well that's sort of where

00:47:59.680 --> 00:48:08.720
it's trending. On the other hand, if older people are using it, then Facebook

00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:12.400
has managed to be that magical like

00:48:08.720 --> 00:48:14.640
accessible to everyone pervasive thing.

00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:19.200
So that's like yay. But then the young people moving away from it is like boo.

00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:23.240
And then what are they using? Just like I said, text messages to phone. They te

00:48:21.200 --> 00:48:27.280
they text incessantly. Yeah. Um, I mean, but I mean, Facebook's great

00:48:25.839 --> 00:48:31.119
for that, too, because you can you can message on Facebook, and I like the

00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:37.319
integration between private messages and chat. Uh, personally, I I I do

00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:40.240
appreciate it. Um, but I don't

00:48:37.319 --> 00:48:48.319
know if it exists in five years. I don't know in what form. Mhm.

00:48:44.520 --> 00:48:49.760
Because I just have no use for it. I

00:48:48.319 --> 00:48:53.319
think it'll be there. I don't think it'll do the MySpace dump because

00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.280
they'll have those consistent people like the like the

00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:02.880
groups that they have their whole family on there and that's how their family communicates. Like there's a lot of

00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:05.599
people that are like that. So they'll I don't think they'll necessarily

00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:09.160
disappear. I think it'll just be a completely different form.

00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:15.520
It could be the same thing. I don't know. I don't

00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:19.520
remember. Okay, so we're at the top. You tweeted about a gaming giveaway a few

00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:24.000
days ago. Later. Ah, it'll come later. Tuning in at 5:00 am in Wales. Yes.

00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:26.920
Yeah. Oh, he's in a hospital bed, though. Boo. That's no good. Sorry to

00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.640
hear that, man. I only use Facebook to communicate

00:49:29.359 --> 00:49:36.480
with extended family. For other purposes, I hate it. Yeah. And then anyone who Oh, sorry. We're not showing

00:49:33.520 --> 00:49:41.359
the tweets. Uh, for anyone who is doesn't want to communicate with their

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:43.040
extended family, then it's like, yeah,

00:49:41.359 --> 00:49:47.040
whatevers. I mean, I've I've always been actually I mean, like I'm I'm techsavvy

00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:51.359
in some ways, but in other ways I'm very resistant. Like I never had a MySpace

00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:58.079
account. Never had like a Zenga account or or um you know, I was on the Palace,

00:49:56.160 --> 00:50:02.000
so that was a long time ago. I'd love it if anyone who also used the Palace

00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:06.800
tweets because I've never even heard of this. This is this is before your time,

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:08.559
son. Um so I was on the palace. I it's

00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:13.280
it was basically like a chat room and like every chat room was just like a

00:50:10.240 --> 00:50:14.880
like like it was just an image and then

00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:19.280
um people's avatars you could just kind of move around the room and then there was this little speech bubbles. The

00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:24.319
palace is the only reason I learned to touch type because there was no log of

00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:28.000
messages. You had to just be looking at the screen and reading. So if you wanted

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:30.960
to say anything Yeah. you had to be quick. You had to be a touch typist. You

00:50:29.520 --> 00:50:34.880
had to be fast. It's the only reason I know how to type. That's funny. Um, so I

00:50:33.040 --> 00:50:39.839
was on that and then I didn't do any I was I used MSN Messenger a lot and then

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:46.480
I didn't get anything until I finally gave in and got Facebook. I went I went

00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:48.240
from Nixopia which I very rarely used.

00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:52.559
No, I know. You're fired for having a Nexopia account at some point. I never

00:50:50.319 --> 00:50:57.440
had MySpace and then I didn't get Facebook until I was in like

00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:01.520
grade nine and then I didn't even make my Facebook. One of my friends made my

00:50:59.520 --> 00:51:05.839
Facebook and attached it to my email and it was like log in. But I think that's

00:51:03.040 --> 00:51:09.440
how a lot of people got sucked into it. Yeah, to be honest. And then I used it

00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.960
for a while and then Yeah, whatever. I mean, the only reason I ever use it is

00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:16.720
if I get a private like I I only accept real life acquaintances and then if I

00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:21.599
get a private message then I'll look at that. But I don't look at my wall. I mean I use Facebook for the fan page,

00:51:19.680 --> 00:51:26.559
right? Like I I monitor that. But then you use that. Yeah. Like my personal

00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:32.079
Facebook I only use for like my little group of gaming friends and then school.

00:51:29.359 --> 00:51:36.800
That's it. So I don't know. There are some white incinerating lights crawling

00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:40.480
over Earth. What do run away from the light? Don't move towards the light.

00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:43.520
Should Nope. You should not demagnetize your screwdriver before mounting a

00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:47.839
motherboard. Thoughts on Alienware laptops? They're

00:51:45.319 --> 00:51:51.119
bulky and they're not powerful compared to a desktop, but they're portable,

00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:53.559
which it sounds like you already knew. They heat up a lot usually. Yeah, they

00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:59.599
run hot. Ah, they went back to their previous policy agreement and added an

00:51:57.680 --> 00:52:03.359
extra filter to say, "Sorry for making you

00:52:00.680 --> 00:52:07.599
mad." Okay. Okay, there you go. Apparently, it was yesterday. Yeah, they

00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:10.599
won't sell your photos. You're using your photos for advertising. You still

00:52:09.040 --> 00:52:16.800
own them. Okay, good. Uh, from Facebook to potentially

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:21.119
Plus or whatever that is. D Daspora. What's Daspora? No idea. Okay, cool. Or

00:52:19.200 --> 00:52:24.559
just texting. Facebook sucks. I hope it dies. Stab. Stab, what do you think of

00:52:22.720 --> 00:52:28.319
the new Twitch layout beta? Haven't seen it. It's good. Is it? We were supposed

00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:32.960
to use it for this stream. I forgot to tell you.

00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:38.240
Um, I think it's just Twitch uh slash new. Okay. But I don't know if that's if

00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:41.280
they have to set it to that or if we set it to that. Let's look at it. Let's see

00:52:39.520 --> 00:52:45.040
how much we like it. So, we just go to our URL and then slash new. I'm pretty

00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:49.440
sure is what it is. Let's make this uh full screen here for a

00:52:46.680 --> 00:52:53.359
sec. All right. So there's uh you got the chat on the side which looks pretty

00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:57.200
len normal and then you've got like a bunch of other cool stuff on the left.

00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.319
It's just it looks cleaner. Better usage of space. Yeah, it's cleaner. Yeah, it

00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:04.559
looks a lot cleaner. Yeah, it's it's nice. Is the size of the player was it

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:08.000
adjustable before? I don't know. But I think the default size is also larger

00:53:06.160 --> 00:53:11.520
now. Cool. Well, that's great. I mean, if we're going to stream in 1080p, you

00:53:09.520 --> 00:53:15.200
might as well be able to uh you might as well be able to actually like see it,

00:53:13.520 --> 00:53:18.079
right? But I don't know if we set it to that on our end. I don't think we set it

00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:21.760
to that. Well, he's watching us right now. Yeah. So, the viewer sets it to

00:53:19.680 --> 00:53:25.520
that. So, if you guys go to your URL bar and type slashnew at the end, you'll get

00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:29.920
the much better link. How many viewers do we have tonight? Oh, wow. 2100.

00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:35.280
Apparently, we don't suck as bad as last week. Actually, I think last week just people were in finals. Finals. Yeah. And

00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:42.800
we forgive you you guys. We We know school is like awesome. Yeah.

00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:46.640
I don't think they even saw our fist bump. Okay. Recreate the fist bump

00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:50.760
moment. That hurts. Your knuckles are so big. Sorry. I swear your knuckles are

00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:55.280
like twice the size of mine. Doesn't correlate to anything

00:53:52.800 --> 00:54:00.240
else. Greetings from Costa Rica. Are you still

00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:02.000
at the office? Absolutely not. Uh we are

00:54:00.240 --> 00:54:05.760
in my garage. There's an axe on the wall. Yeah.

00:54:03.839 --> 00:54:12.079
The Russian has had a paintball gun at work for like two months. What?

00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:16.000
How is that allowed? I No, I gave him hell for it earlier this week. I was

00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:19.200
like, why is this still here? Cuz I think he brought it in as like a

00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:23.280
Halloween costume or something, but like early in October and we're or like

00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:27.839
midocctober and we're at like the end of December. I'm just like, you didn't even

00:54:25.520 --> 00:54:31.920
end up dressing up in this as a costume. Take this thing home. It's bad enough he

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:35.839
has a sword in his office. Yeah, I saw that, too. But that was that's NZXT

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:40.640
swag, though. Yeah, that was uh that went with the uh here. The sword was

00:54:38.319 --> 00:54:45.119
part of the same thing that I allowed me to acquire that helmet right there. So,

00:54:43.520 --> 00:54:49.119
I mean, the sword I kind of understand cuz at least it's Tech Swag, but like

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:53.040
this paintball gun and it's like it's like a replica style paintball gun.

00:54:51.200 --> 00:54:56.880
Like, it doesn't just look like it's not like a spider or something like a goofy

00:54:54.800 --> 00:55:03.359
little marker. Like, it's got a stock on it and like just like, dude, don't do

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.200
that. It's like a an office. Like, you

00:55:03.359 --> 00:55:09.760
know, with all the things that go on in like offices and schools, it's like

00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:13.119
people don't want to see that, man. Oh, speaking of the Russian, did he ever

00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:19.280
text me tonight? He was going to tell me. They're doing some kind of like game until the world ends event or something

00:55:17.240 --> 00:55:24.880
tonight. I don't know when it runs until, but you I don't know. Go to the I

00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:28.960
don't even know where to go. There might be a post on the forum or something.

00:55:26.720 --> 00:55:33.359
That would be my guess. I don't know. He was like, "Can you join?" And I'm like,

00:55:30.160 --> 00:55:35.760
"I got my live stream." And yeah, and I

00:55:33.359 --> 00:55:39.920
don't have a gaming rig yet, but soon. Shut up, noob.

00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:44.440
Uh, did I miss the talk about the Intel NVIDIA thing? Yes, you did. But it's

00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:50.640
okay. Live stream archive. Archive. Archive. Um, what do you the new 7

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:55.440
series cards going to be like? I am expecting I'm expecting like a 480 to

00:55:53.359 --> 00:55:58.640
580 bump. I'm expecting them to be more efficient and a little bit more

00:55:56.480 --> 00:56:03.920
powerful. Yeah, I no guarantees though. I mean,

00:56:01.680 --> 00:56:08.720
they might pull, you know, GK 110 out of their butts and be like, "Yeah,

00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:12.000
whatever. I so I don't know. I doubt it. Yeah, I don't see that happening, but

00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.760
you never know because if they can sell enough of them to for supercomputing,

00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:18.799
then I'm sure they're fine. Uh, what do you think of OCZ in the new Vector SSD?

00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:23.599
Actually, Slick, you benchmarked it today. How'd it go? I didn't go way too

00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:27.440
into data to own it. Oh, I wasn't done benchmarking. Oh, okay. I got like

00:56:25.839 --> 00:56:31.280
halfway through. I can tell you from what I've read and from what I've seen

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:37.359
so far, it looks reliable and the performance is beast. So I think I

00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:40.240
understand a lot of what OCZ was doing with the branding of the Vector and with

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:44.960
the way they did the release. So number one is they moved away from any of their

00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:49.280
previous branding conventions. So Vert.Ex the reason they stuck with

00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:55.440
Vert.ex for four generations was that Vert.Ex had such a strong brand like

00:56:52.640 --> 00:56:59.680
back in the agility one Vert.Ex one days the performance difference between those

00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:05.079
drives was very small. I mean, we were limited by things that went beyond using

00:57:01.680 --> 00:57:09.119
sync or async flash controllers,

00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:11.040
interface, all that stuff. And uh but

00:57:09.119 --> 00:57:14.319
because the Vertex branding was so strong and there were so many reviews

00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:18.640
and the customer perception was so good of a Vertex, it outsold agility, at

00:57:17.040 --> 00:57:24.319
least I'm just speaking from my experience as the OCZ product manager at

00:57:20.680 --> 00:57:27.280
NCX. It outsold agility like 10 20 to1

00:57:24.319 --> 00:57:31.200
like huge. And Vertex 2, I had the same experience. Vert.ex 3, same experience.

00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:36.880
Agility started to catch up a lot because async flash got really cheaper

00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:38.480
around that time at times. Uh Vert.Ex 4,

00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:43.040
same thing, but Agility 4 was a legitimately much worse drive than

00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:47.839
Vert.Ex 4. So they went and they changed like how often do companies do stuff

00:57:45.680 --> 00:57:52.640
like that? Like when did it like Intel is still using the Pentium name? Yeah. I

00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:57.359
would say AMD should still be using the Athlon name. Yeah. Like Yeah. Why not?

00:57:55.680 --> 00:58:00.559
Like you have a good branding asset. you use it, why not? Um, as long as you have

00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:03.760
a good product to go with it. So, Vector, they're saying, "Look, we're a

00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:06.799
new company. We're doing things differently, you know?" So, they're

00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:11.119
doing long warranty, which they did on Vert.ex 4, but they're So, they're

00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:14.400
continuing that. They did a much more uh rigorous testing of the drive. They

00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:17.440
validated it in a way that they haven't done in the past. Well, how how long did

00:58:16.160 --> 00:58:22.480
it take them to bring this one to market? 18 months compared to Vertex.

00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:27.040
Less than 12 months. Yeah. For previous drives, which means they spent at least

00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.960
six months. Yeah. just validating at least half a year

00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:35.760
more on just the development validating it. So I think that they were trying to

00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:42.000
say look we're a new OCZ and they really are like they're I people that I've

00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:45.440
known there um like the CEO um the chief

00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:47.680
sales officer um or director of sales or

00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:53.520
I forget VP of sales I think VP of sales was his actual title. Um but like these

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:55.040
guys they're gone. Um and it's it's a

00:58:53.520 --> 00:58:59.599
very very different crew over there. I can tell you guys that much. So, uh,

00:58:57.040 --> 00:59:02.480
yeah, very, very positive. I have a really good feeling about where they're

00:59:01.040 --> 00:59:06.640
going. I mean, they still got some stuff to get figured out on the financial

00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:09.520
side, on the legal side. Um, you know, they're a public company, so there's a

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:15.839
lot of paperwork that goes along with that, and they got to figure that out. But, you know, I I I hope they land on

00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:18.640
their feet. Yeah, me too. They're been around for a while, so it' be nice to

00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:23.040
keep around. I'm like I said, I'm like halfway done the benchmarks, so next

00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:26.000
whenever we'll film it and then we'll release it as soon as possible. I mean,

00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:30.240
they've done some things wrong over the years, but quite frankly, so has

00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:35.520
everyone. Yeah. Um, you know, you look at uh

00:59:32.200 --> 00:59:37.119
uh Intel screwed up the firmware on X25

00:59:35.520 --> 00:59:42.799
twice. Do you know about this? It wasn't into SSDs then because they were Okay. Uh,

00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:46.559
Crucial screwed up the M4, so it just turned off after a certain number of

00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:51.200
hours. You know, you look at things like uh things like RAM. Crucial had a

00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:56.240
disastrous batch of ballistics back in the DDR2 days. We were talking like 40%

00:59:53.440 --> 01:00:01.680
RMA rates. I remember bad batches happen to everyone. Stuff happens. And OCZ gets

00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:05.040
a really bad rap sometimes. Well, because they sell a lot. They sell a

01:00:03.839 --> 01:00:08.960
lot. But I'm talking even other categories. OCZ power supplies for

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.480
whatever reason have this terrible reputation. Like on forums, you look at

01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:15.839
experienced guys going, "Oh, I wouldn't touch that." Let me tell you something,

01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:23.280
and I don't normally talk about this kind of stuff because it's kind of confidential information, but the RMA

01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:27.440
rate back to NCIX on OCZ power supplies was around

01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:34.440
2%. Which I can tell you guys right now was number two in terms of RMA rates at

01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:37.280
NCIX. And we're talking Anttech, CIC,

01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:40.880
Corsair. Two of those three were worse than

01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:47.680
OCZ for the period of time that I was managing it, right? which was like three

01:00:43.160 --> 01:00:49.720
years. So, bam. Like, people sort of

01:00:47.680 --> 01:00:54.880
talk about it, but it's like where are they getting this data?

01:00:53.200 --> 01:00:59.839
Like, maybe they got bitten by something. I still have a Game Extreme

01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:02.319
600 watt and like that's a launch unit.

01:00:59.839 --> 01:01:07.440
Yeah. That's running in my work machine at at NCIX. So, this is like what, five,

01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:10.559
six years down the road. It's not like every one of them dies. And it seems to

01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:15.440
be the perception. I don't understand. And you look at recent products like ZX

01:01:12.319 --> 01:01:18.400
series built by a very reputable OEM,

01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:22.960
very high quality power supply. I don't get

01:01:19.640 --> 01:01:22.960
it. Anyway,

01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:32.400
OCZ. Um, were you ever on Geio Cities?

01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:37.200
Nope. Watching from Ecuador? Yes. Streaming in 360p like a

01:01:34.839 --> 01:01:40.599
boss. Thank you for tolerating our terrible 360pness.

01:01:42.240 --> 01:01:49.280
No. Come on. No. Ness is a perfectly

01:01:46.359 --> 01:01:57.359
legitimate suffix. 360p is a real thing.

01:01:52.920 --> 01:02:00.680
Okay. No. No. No. Not for that.

01:01:57.359 --> 01:02:00.680
Whatever, man.

01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:06.880
Okay. I don't expect Intel and Apple to

01:02:05.520 --> 01:02:11.280
team up at any point in time. I think Apple's busy alienating absolutely

01:02:08.720 --> 01:02:14.640
everyone between the lawsuits against Samsung and they're losing a lot of that

01:02:13.359 --> 01:02:19.200
right now. Have you heard about that? I have. They're losing like crazy left and right. They're losing everywhere. And

01:02:17.839 --> 01:02:23.040
the fact that it's it's almost like they're kind of going like this at Intel. You hear the latest thing where

01:02:21.839 --> 01:02:28.079
Apple says they want to develop their own CPU and move away from Intel on their notebooks. It's like what's the

01:02:26.559 --> 01:02:33.839
point of even saying something like that?

01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:36.559
I think they're literally just like ever since Steve Jobs pass like you look at

01:02:35.359 --> 01:02:43.200
the history of the company like Steve Jobs starts the company. Yeah. Steve Jobs gets fired. Steve Jobs comes back.

01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:47.599
Yeah. Steve Jobs passes away. It's like come on. They they just like the second

01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:51.440
he is gone, they just try and fight everyone. Like how does that seem like a

01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:54.640
good strategy? Let's just like go fisticuffs with every single company we

01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:58.400
can possibly. Whereas I mean Steve Jobs was never afraid to go toe-to-toe. No,

01:02:56.720 --> 01:03:03.599
he'll go toe-to-toe with Google, but did it intelligently and had a plan. It's

01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:07.280
not just like throwing punches in every possible direction you can think of. I

01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:13.520
mean, why go against Samsung? That was stupid. Like Samsung. And like, why

01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:17.359
why push out Apple Maps when it just doesn't work?

01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:20.559
I still haven't upgraded to iOS 6. I've been lazy. I tried last night, but I

01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:24.079
needed a 50. I know there's a Google Google. Yeah, that's the only reason I

01:03:22.160 --> 01:03:27.119
was considering it. Okay, I'm going to go get another topic. Maybe do a couple

01:03:25.520 --> 01:03:31.680
tweets. Apparently, it costs a dollar to send a private message on uh to a

01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:35.119
non-friend on Facebook. Really? I've never heard of that before. I've never

01:03:33.200 --> 01:03:39.839
tried. Never tried. Yeah, that's interesting. I wonder how they even work

01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:42.480
that in. How do you even send a message to

01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:47.359
someone who's you're not a friend with on Facebook? I have no idea. I've never

01:03:45.359 --> 01:03:53.839
even Oh, you're going to love this. Oh, okay. Yeah, really cool. Uh really cool

01:03:49.839 --> 01:03:55.440
news. So, um, I'll be the first one to

01:03:53.839 --> 01:03:59.119
say Linux totally doesn't matter because I don't care about it. Has zero

01:03:57.359 --> 01:04:03.280
application to my life, but I know you're a bit of a Linux guy. You use it

01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:09.680
every day whether you OCZ directly or not. Speaking of OCZ has has launched a

01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:13.599
beta um a beta application that enables

01:04:09.680 --> 01:04:15.680
SSD caching on Linux. So, wait, on

01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:20.400
regular SSDs. But I thought you didn't care about it. Well, I said you should

01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:23.039
care about this news. Oh, okay. You were all excited. So, I thought you were

01:04:21.680 --> 01:04:28.000
like, I don't care about Linux, but I care about this. No, no, the implications of this are huge. Yeah,

01:04:25.839 --> 01:04:31.920
that's awesome. Um, blah blah blah blah blah something something something. Aha.

01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:36.400
Beta test program for its Linux acceleration software development and

01:04:34.160 --> 01:04:41.200
invites its enterprise SSD customers to participate. So, it's a fast caching

01:04:38.640 --> 01:04:44.000
storage solution for their SSDs designed specifically for Linux based physical

01:04:42.799 --> 01:04:47.799
and virtual environments. That's awesome. So basically this is kind of

01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:52.400
like um this is kind of shoot what's their

01:04:50.640 --> 01:04:57.119
what's their accelerator drive called the desktop one synapse uh yeah synapse

01:04:55.200 --> 01:05:01.920
cache so it's kind of like synapse except you can use any OCZ enterprise

01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:10.000
SSD you can cache a magnetic storage solution and unlike you know what uh you

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:13.359
know adapt or you know LSI or whatever

01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.640
wants you to believe unlike that they

01:05:13.359 --> 01:05:17.960
are not locking ing it down to a hardware platform.

01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:25.760
If it works out, that's awesome. That's gamechanging. Yeah, that's like this is

01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:31.760
like this is like the end of the end of expensive hardware solutions for this

01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:37.200
potentially because it doesn't only work with SATA and SAS, it also works with

01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:42.000
PCI Express SSDs. Oh, nice. That's kind of cool. So their entire enterprise

01:05:39.680 --> 01:05:46.079
thing is going to be so basically okay so imagine this server was it you where

01:05:44.240 --> 01:05:49.680
you were talking about that sort of uber density for you thing okay so what was

01:05:48.160 --> 01:05:56.079
the density they were able to achieve I can't remember but it was insane it's called red red something it's this

01:05:52.720 --> 01:05:58.559
gigantic red server that just holds a

01:05:56.079 --> 01:06:02.559
billion hard drives okay so picture this something like that where maybe you

01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:08.880
build like you have like a 50 or 100 terabyte storage server then you go okay

01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:13.359
seven PCI Express slots with 1 TBTE of SSD each. A softwarebased solution. So

01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:21.039
you don't even have to have like you don't even have to have any cards in your system other than SSDs running off

01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:24.319
of wicked fast PCI Express and these storage. Oh no. I guess you'd need

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:28.000
something to plug storage drives into. Oh crap. Okay. Well, fine. So you have a

01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:31.599
couple Okay, fine. You have a couple SSDs then. And you get them to do I know

01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:36.400
they do custom solutions. So you go to OC. You say, "Look, we need 4 TB SSDs

01:06:34.319 --> 01:06:39.200
and we need so you have like four running here to connect all your hard

01:06:37.680 --> 01:06:44.160
drives. You have like three running here to be like so like 12 terabytes of like

01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:49.039
Uber cache for the thing." I mean, that's that's a whole new generation of

01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:52.720
performance really. Yeah. Where instead of FA like I I remember hearing a really

01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:57.599
cool stat that Facebook was buying something like like some however many

01:06:55.119 --> 01:07:02.160
dozen servers every day just to add to their racks. And I think it's everyone's

01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:07.839
Facebook front page has to be stored on SSD. Yep. So if they roll out something,

01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:11.520
so if OCZ basically goes, look, here's our solution. Buy our SSDs, which are

01:07:10.319 --> 01:07:15.599
competitively priced as far as enterprise SSDs go because it's flash in

01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:22.160
a controller. It's not rocket science. Buy our SSDs. We have this Linux SSD

01:07:19.200 --> 01:07:26.640
caching system that's ready to go. You just deploy it and it'll cache your

01:07:24.799 --> 01:07:31.039
magnetic storage. All of a sudden, you don't have to have dedicated SSDs for

01:07:28.319 --> 01:07:35.200
anything. It'll automatically cache the most frequently used data. The first

01:07:32.799 --> 01:07:38.640
load will be slow. Facebook would still need it. Okay. Facebook would still need

01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:44.880
it. Stuff that needs the entire thing on a dedicated SSD. Yeah. Okay. Yes. But

01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:48.160
yeah, but would they Okay. Okay. Front page would have to be on SSD, but

01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:52.960
everyone's front pages after a little while would eventually end up in the SSD

01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:56.079
cache anyway. everyone's well if they keep adding blades the way

01:07:54.640 --> 01:08:00.119
they're adding them and every single one of them had like let's say 10% of the

01:07:57.680 --> 01:08:04.319
storage in every blade was SSD then all the all the I think well

01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:10.240
like this would come into tune with the thing that you're saying where you can contact OC and get a custom yes things

01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:14.400
up so Facebook would need their own kind of design for everything so they'd have

01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:19.279
a completely custom thing I'm sure and then they basically decide what is the

01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:21.520
appropriate ratio of SSD to hard drive

01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:25.120
and as long as the caching solutions enough and we've already seen I mean

01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:31.040
almost every well not everyone but you know you look like guys like uh uh

01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:32.960
datlex guys like LSI adapt all these

01:08:31.040 --> 01:08:36.239
guys have caching solutions that's actually something I didn't think about

01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:40.080
the LSI acquisition of sandforce probably has huge implications for SSD

01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:45.679
caching sorry I didn't think of that before but anyway um so it's not rocket

01:08:43.440 --> 01:08:49.120
science at this point I don't think so if they work it out so that as long as

01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:53.440
they've got the right ratio of magnetic to solid state storage. They wouldn't

01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:58.560
have to have dedicated SSD machines anymore. Pretty much they could just go,

01:08:56.319 --> 01:09:03.199
"Okay, put it in autopilot. Don't touch it anymore because it's all handled by

01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:05.759
the software." I think I think you're still going to

01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:11.920
want if you're doing something like that, I think you're still going to want someone managing everything. But I mean,

01:09:09.759 --> 01:09:14.960
okay, you look at stuff like a photo that people look at once in a while and

01:09:13.759 --> 01:09:20.560
if the loading time's a little bit slower, that could sit on magnetic. And

01:09:17.679 --> 01:09:20.560
if it could all be

01:09:20.759 --> 01:09:26.560
dynamically monitored, then great. Anyway, I thought that was cool. I

01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:33.239
thought you'd think it's cooler than you seem to think it is, but whatever. Sick.

01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:33.239
You're a constant disappointment.

01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:40.159
You're a jerk. Um, I'm trying to find the name of that

01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:46.000
thing. It's just gigantic for you and it's painted red and it just has all the

01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:49.400
hard drives. It's ridiculous. Got any

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:52.159
more topics or should I go to Twitter?

01:09:49.400 --> 01:09:57.280
Um, oh, Intel Ivy Bridge chips may dip below 13 watts. So, that's cool. So,

01:09:55.280 --> 01:10:01.280
we're talking like desktop processors that uh so step down further depending

01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:04.640
on the situation to as little as seven watts, which would be amazing for

01:10:03.040 --> 01:10:09.520
tablets because I'm super stoked on Windows 8, like proper Windows 8 tablets

01:10:06.719 --> 01:10:14.920
100%. So, that's cool, but I don't think I want to talk about that for that long.

01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:14.920
Um,

01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:24.159
I don't know. You got anything? Uh, not really.

01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:26.320
Topic suggestion for blah blah blah. Um,

01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:31.199
Brendick H asks, "Do you think it's possible for Valve to push the main PC

01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:33.840
gaming market to Linux?" No. No, I don't

01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:37.040
think so either. No, but they are. How do I bring up I love you, Gabe, but it's

01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:42.320
not going to happen. There we go. Um, but I don't think I think he's wanting

01:10:39.280 --> 01:10:44.040
to make it viable for his Steam box.

01:10:42.320 --> 01:10:48.640
Yeah, but even then like

01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:53.040
I think it'll be viable, but people are going to use what they're used to and people are going to you are going to use

01:10:51.360 --> 01:10:56.480
what they currently like and that's in the most part Windows. And you could,

01:10:54.960 --> 01:11:02.320
okay, even if you were to make the argument that Windows has peaked and is

01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:05.280
on the downtrend in terms of its, you know, market dominance or whatever else,

01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:10.719
whatever other argument you're going to make, I would say that the tale on that

01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:15.120
is so long that Gabe Newell may not even live to see the end of L of Windows as

01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:21.120
the dominant gaming platform for the PC. Yeah. Like even if this is the

01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:26.480
apex, the li the library and the tool

01:11:21.120 --> 01:11:26.480
sets and all of this stuff is so deeply

01:11:26.679 --> 01:11:33.600
entrenched for anything but casual. I don't see it happening anytime soon.

01:11:32.080 --> 01:11:40.080
Yeah. But then at the same time, you see like it's not it's not just Gabe, it's

01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:42.960
not just Steam because um you see like

01:11:40.080 --> 01:11:46.560
any Kickstarter game, any Kickstarter game, they they push the game and then

01:11:45.040 --> 01:11:52.000
there's a billion comments of people asking like make a stretch goal for Linux and their first stretch goal is

01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:56.239
like always Linux. Like people care and it's becoming a bigger thing and like

01:11:53.760 --> 01:12:00.880
it's a really local minority. Yes. But then not necessarily just North America.

01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:05.440
You got to think about that too. A huge amount of the rest of the world uses a

01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:10.400
lot of Linux. Fair enough. North America not so much like at all.

01:12:08.400 --> 01:12:16.080
But Right. And bearing in mind that North America for markets like games

01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:21.280
just dwarfs almost everything else. No, that's true. I know. But it's like it's

01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:25.280
happening. It's I agree with you. I agree with you. Very long tailed, but it

01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:28.159
is happening. And I know a ton of people that will get rid of their Windows

01:12:26.480 --> 01:12:32.800
partition now. But it's more people that are already dual booting with Linux.

01:12:29.679 --> 01:12:35.040
Yes. and which is like a sl a sliver of

01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:38.239
a sliver of computer users. I'm just saying it will it will convert some

01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:41.760
people. Here's the other thing that will be devastating for something like Linux

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:46.480
adoption and it comes down to our same conversation about the longer the longer

01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:51.840
um upgrade cycles that people have these days and that is the fact that so many

01:12:49.360 --> 01:12:56.640
people are still running Windows XP machines that are fast enough for every

01:12:54.400 --> 01:13:03.280
casual game that comes out in the next 5 to 10 years. So, not only does Linux

01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:07.520
have to go up against the dominance of Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows, well,

01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:12.520
Vista to a lesser extent, but they're they're out there. There are Vista machines out there. Um, but they have to

01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:19.040
go up against that every game for however long from now is going

01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:22.080
to run on Windows XP. Like, like it's

01:13:19.040 --> 01:13:23.600
it's still a requirement. Yeah. So, it's

01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:29.040
like how many platforms do you want to build for? Yeah, for sure.

01:13:27.440 --> 01:13:34.320
Yeah, like that's that's part of the reason the tail. So I think that upgrade

01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:36.560
cycle is going to continue to extend

01:13:34.320 --> 01:13:40.719
especially as NVIDIA and Intel slow down their development and release products

01:13:38.480 --> 01:13:44.400
less frequently. Your computer will be good enough for longer. And with the

01:13:42.480 --> 01:13:47.920
quality of the components that especially on the custom side these

01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:52.159
motherboard manufacturers and VGA manufacturers are using, it's like when

01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:56.719
would I ever have to replace a Maximus 5 formula? I think every component on that

01:13:54.719 --> 01:14:00.800
board is rated for something like 15 years of continuous operation. It's like

01:13:58.719 --> 01:14:04.960
it's just ridiculous. And like those new the AX power supplies from Corsair.

01:14:02.719 --> 01:14:08.000
Yeah. And like the some of the new SSDs that are coming out, they're all just

01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:12.280
absolutely ridiculous. I mean, it used to be that when you bought like high-end

01:14:11.440 --> 01:14:17.360
power supply, you were paying for the fact

01:14:14.719 --> 01:14:22.080
that it wouldn't die after 3 years. Yeah. Whereas now, you take for granted

01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:25.520
that it's going to last 5 to 10 years. Oh, seriously. And you've even got like

01:14:23.679 --> 01:14:30.320
sevenyear warranties on stuff. I mean, guys, a manufacturer gives you a

01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:34.640
warranty that is like a fraction of how long they actually expect it to last.

01:14:32.480 --> 01:14:38.400
Like your appliances have a 1 to twoyear warranty. They expect that thing to last

01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:44.480
10 plus years. Think about that in terms of your computer. If they're giving you a 5year warranty, they it's not going to

01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:51.239
die. Basically, the only thing I can think of that is going the other

01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:54.080
direction is like TVs and monitors

01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:59.600
cuz Yeah, I totally agree. But like old school TVs like CRT style stuff just

01:14:57.280 --> 01:15:06.560
like still works. Let me put it this way. NCX has a 39 in LED back lit 120 Hz

01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:10.840
TV that's going to be in the Boxing Week sale and you guys didn't hear this from

01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:18.480
me at $2.99. What? Wow. So, this is a 39 in TV which

01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:22.880
is 1080p which basically costs as much

01:15:18.480 --> 01:15:27.440
as even like 6 months to a year ago. Oh

01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:30.159
yeah. Like a 22 23 in monitor. Yeah. TVs

01:15:27.440 --> 01:15:33.760
don't use TN panels. So that's something to bear in mind too. Oh yeah. So it's

01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:38.920
not like they get to use a TN panel to cheap out unless they are like super

01:15:36.080 --> 01:15:44.480
cheap TVs. And the material costs are obviously

01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:49.600
higher because it's just larger. Yeah. In like every possible way of defining

01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:51.600
that. Like like just the plastic mold to

01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:55.840
create the bezel is larger. Like everything is just everything costs

01:15:53.280 --> 01:15:59.280
more. Yeah. Yeah. How could they afford to make it last for 10 years? No, I

01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:05.120
know. But I'm just saying like that's that's the only thing I can possibly think of that's going the other way.

01:16:03.440 --> 01:16:08.880
Yeah. Even things like light bulbs last longer now. Everything just seems to

01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:13.440
last longer. But just the only thing I can possibly think of is TVs and screens

01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:16.480
and phones. Yeah, phones used to be built like

01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:19.440
tanks. Oh my goodness, that old Nokia one that you could like literally drive

01:16:18.080 --> 01:16:24.640
over with the tank and it just wouldn't care. I think I had that one. Was it the blue one? Yeah, it was very iconic.

01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:28.480
Black and white screen, right? For some reason, I can't remember. Yeah, it's

01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:32.400
yellowy kind of or like like orange back lit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um I can't

01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:35.679
remember the name of it, but it's like Okay. I don't know. I I had one though.

01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:39.199
such a well-known Nokia phone, but like that thing was a beast. And a lot of old

01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:43.679
school phones were just absolute beast. Oh yeah, I used to drop it all the time.

01:16:40.719 --> 01:16:46.800
And now like I kind of worry about this one and if I had an iPhone, I would just

01:16:45.280 --> 01:16:52.080
constantly worry about Now they do a drop test on like YouTube just to prove

01:16:49.679 --> 01:16:57.080
that it won't break after one drop, which is brutal.

01:16:54.719 --> 01:17:01.760
And they're slipperier than ever. Yeah, you can see like I obviously

01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:06.159
worry. I have an Otter box, which is my case, and that's like armor for your

01:17:04.320 --> 01:17:10.000
phone because I'm just like seriously worried that it'll just break if I ever

01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:14.960
do anything bad to it. Oh, you know what we should talk about? Uh, how much time

01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:16.320
do we have left? Uh, uh, it's 10

01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:19.760
minutes. We got We got like 11 minutes. Okay. Um, so I want to talk about a new

01:17:18.400 --> 01:17:24.239
idea. I'm thinking I'm going to start this in January. We'll use the forum as

01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:28.400
part of a as part of a launch thing. So, for all of you guys watching here, I I'm

01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:32.360
assuming if you're tuning in live that you're probably someone who, you know,

01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:37.920
watches my videos.

01:17:34.360 --> 01:17:39.880
Um, YouTubers need likes. They need

01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:44.640
likes. They need comments, and they need shares. One of the biggest things that

01:17:42.080 --> 01:17:50.080
I've noticed about my videos is a lot of people watch them, but apparently nobody

01:17:46.480 --> 01:17:53.199
actually likes them. Um, which is I mean

01:17:50.080 --> 01:17:55.920
I I hope that's not actually the case,

01:17:53.199 --> 01:18:01.600
but if the uh 3310, okay, I don't know if that's the one I had or not, but let

01:17:59.679 --> 01:18:06.080
how do how do I address this? I don't want to plead for likes. I think it's

01:18:03.840 --> 01:18:09.800
lame. If you look back at my older videos, I didn't even ask people to

01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:14.239
subscribe because I always took kind of the, hey, if people want to watch my

01:18:12.080 --> 01:18:18.239
videos, then they want to subscribe. That's cool. Sorry for my voice. wanted

01:18:16.480 --> 01:18:22.080
it to be the most organic as possible. Wanted it to be people that really

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:26.080
actually really desired to see more instead of just felt incentive to see

01:18:24.320 --> 01:18:30.320
more. Legit wanted to subscribe or wanted to like the video or or or

01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:35.120
whatever else. But what I'm looking at now is more and more and more YouTube is

01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:38.719
tweaking their algorithms to focus on engagement. So they're looking for how

01:18:37.280 --> 01:18:43.280
many people like the video, how many people comment on it, how related the

01:18:41.120 --> 01:18:46.640
comments are to the keywords in the title in the description, and how many

01:18:45.120 --> 01:18:52.080
people are sharing it, whether it's on Facebook or Twitter or on or on YouTube

01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:53.760
itself. And um for those of you who are

01:18:52.080 --> 01:18:58.400
watching right now, consider this sort of my appeal to you. It's not that much

01:18:56.480 --> 01:19:02.560
work. In fact, you can download scripts that autoike the video, every video you

01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:06.000
watch, and then you can manually dislike it if you don't like it or unlike it if

01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:10.719
you if it turns out that you don't actually like it. Um, I would hope you

01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:16.080
guys will do that. And so, what I'm thinking is I'm actually going to create

01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:17.760
a program where every month we're going

01:19:16.080 --> 01:19:22.239
to contribute because as you guys know, there's ad revenue that goes along with

01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:25.440
having better search rankings. So, you know, if you guys are able to help me

01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:30.800
get better search rankings, get more views, build build this this community,

01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:33.920
build this viewership base, then I figure I should probably give something

01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:38.199
back. So, what I'm thinking is we do either monthly or quarterly targets

01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:45.600
where I basically go, look, for every like on a Linus Tech Tips video this

01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:47.520
month, I'm going to contribute X number

01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:51.280
of cents and it'll probably be like a fraction of a cent because the last

01:19:49.520 --> 01:19:54.960
thing every single like that's just insane. Yeah. The last thing I need to

01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:59.199
do is go broke immediately because you guys are so gung-ho. And I mean, like I

01:19:56.719 --> 01:20:03.520
appreciate the support, but I also, you know, have a baby to feed. Um, so I'm

01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:09.600
thinking we basically go, okay, for every like this month, we're going to contribute this much. And then with the

01:20:07.120 --> 01:20:15.440
forum that we're starting up, we can let the viewers decide what we do with the

01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:17.360
money. So we can basically go, okay, um,

01:20:15.440 --> 01:20:22.000
you know, uh, we can we can create a vote every month. We can go, okay, this,

01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:27.600
you know, moderator needs a new computer. Should we contribute to that?

01:20:24.320 --> 01:20:30.320
or there's this charity that uh you know

01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:34.880
uh like I know particularly Slick MS is really important to him for for some

01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:38.560
personal reasons. Um you know for me um Alzheimer's and dementia is pretty

01:20:36.480 --> 01:20:41.679
important for some personal reasons. Um so there's a lot of different different

01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:46.560
things like that. So we could basically create a list and let the community

01:20:44.080 --> 01:20:49.520
decide what we do with the money. So, we can go, okay, look, this month we're

01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:53.520
going to do this up to a maximum of $1,000, and then at the end of the

01:20:51.440 --> 01:20:56.880
month, you guys get to vote on what you want us to do with that $1,000. BC

01:20:55.440 --> 01:21:02.000
Children's Hospital is one I'd also really like to contribute to. We write a

01:20:59.040 --> 01:21:06.800
check, we film it, we mail it, and uh that way instead of me having to sort of

01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:10.960
gravel for please like my video, which I think is just ridiculous, and I've held

01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:16.320
out as long as I can before even making any kind of appeal about it. Um, I think

01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:21.080
it's a way for you guys to really contribute something by liking the video

01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:26.320
and a way for me to give back to the general world for you guys helping sort

01:21:24.480 --> 01:21:30.239
of push the popularity of what we're doing up. So, if you guys think that

01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:34.239
makes sense, I' let's take your tweets on that for the rest of the uh for the

01:21:32.080 --> 01:21:39.560
rest of the segment here. And like a lot of that interaction would come from a

01:21:36.400 --> 01:21:39.560
lot of

01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:44.000
I like it. I like it. I like it. Um,

01:21:44.080 --> 01:21:53.040
Um, a lot of those interactions would be done through the forum. So, I like it

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:54.320
like that. I like it like that. Um, so

01:21:53.040 --> 01:21:58.080
you guys could vote through the forum like we were saying and like say you

01:21:56.400 --> 01:22:01.320
guys did a Keval loan or some type of recurring thing that would happen. You

01:21:59.679 --> 01:22:05.280
guys could orchestrate that whole process. So, it would be a lot of

01:22:03.679 --> 01:22:10.480
interaction from you guys and a lot driven through the forum. And that's the thing, we need your help. That's a

01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:16.360
really good point because my whole thing is I don't want every video to be like,

01:22:13.360 --> 01:22:19.760
"Please like my videos. My baby needs to

01:22:16.360 --> 01:22:22.320
eat." Like I It can't be like that.

01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:25.840
That's stupid. It's stupid. I think it's pathetic. And for all the other

01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:30.880
YouTubers who are watching me right now, I think it's pathetic. I really do.

01:22:27.679 --> 01:22:33.120
Pleading for likes is lame. Um but what

01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:37.040
I would rely on you guys to do is to advocate. Like I don't want to say in

01:22:35.280 --> 01:22:41.280
the video, guys, like the video and I'll donate to a charity. I want you guys to

01:22:38.639 --> 01:22:46.880
drive that. I want the top I want the top rated comment under every video to

01:22:43.679 --> 01:22:48.480
be about what this month's thing is.

01:22:46.880 --> 01:22:52.000
Like like if you guys come up with a personal goal through the forum or

01:22:50.080 --> 01:22:55.440
something that you guys want to hit like oh something happened like say there's a

01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:58.960
natural disaster and you guys want to push something towards that natural

01:22:56.880 --> 01:23:01.840
disaster. Exactly. We could you guys could push for that and our donations

01:23:00.639 --> 01:23:06.159
would go towards that if it's the highest voted thing which if it was a natural disaster probably would be and

01:23:04.639 --> 01:23:10.080
if you guys are all contributing together and supporting each other's

01:23:08.080 --> 01:23:14.639
ideas in the forum which Slick will actually start working on tomorrow.

01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:18.159
Tomorrow is the beginning date the day. Uh well second day but you haven't

01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:24.159
gotten much done on it yet. First day wasn't really Yeah. Yeah. First day finals are over basically. So, uh, so

01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:28.159
yeah, we're I think we're pretty excited about this idea. And we need you guys to

01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:31.880
advocate. And honestly, like, think about it this way. It really does help

01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:35.520
me a lot. The sooner you guys get started, the better, the better it will

01:23:34.080 --> 01:23:39.199
be. Even though I know we're not doing a target for December, and I'm not 100%

01:23:37.840 --> 01:23:43.920
sure if I'll be able to launch in time for January. But tell you what, I'll

01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:49.120
commit now. February for sure, I'll commit at least 500 bucks as like a as a

01:23:47.440 --> 01:23:55.600
ceiling for this for this new program. And then what I'd like is for

01:23:52.440 --> 01:23:58.080
as what I'd like what I'd like is for as

01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:01.760
we keep going, you know, if I'm pushing you guys to hit a bigger and bigger

01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:05.600
target, then I want to contribute bigger and bigger amounts of money. I think

01:24:03.280 --> 01:24:11.520
that's how this should work. Okay. So, yeah, let's let's do some tweets about

01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:13.120
this. So, swag. Okay. C uh do it. Can

01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:18.639
you buy front panel cables that are sleeved so they don't know, but you can sleeve them? Yeah, you can sleeve

01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:22.560
yourself. Seems legit. When will the AMD never settle promotion end? Um, it's

01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:28.719
gonna end when they run out of codes, so you should still be okay on Boxing Day.

01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:30.639
Oh my god, Blaze.

01:24:28.719 --> 01:24:34.400
I don't know. Okay. Can you tell me which components are needed for computer

01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:37.600
graphics? Blaze? What? I wonder if that's the name of that server that I'm

01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:40.639
thinking of. I don't know. Whatever. The big red thing that holds up. Okay, sure.

01:24:39.679 --> 01:24:45.600
That might be something to do with hardware and software needed for computer graphics. Uh, it depends what

01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:51.600
kind of computer graphics. We talked about Tegra 4 a little bit. Looks ballin. Yeah, it looks awesome. I gave

01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:55.040
away my Gunner glasses to Slick. Should I read between the lines on your opinion

01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:59.040
on them? No, my opinion is that they do reduce eye fatigue. 100%. If you sit at

01:24:57.440 --> 01:25:03.520
your computer for a long time, they work. What I didn't like about them is

01:25:01.440 --> 01:25:07.760
my eyes are sort of going a little bit right now as it is. They have a bit of

01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:13.199
magnification on them. So, it's not a prescription, it is a magnification. And

01:25:10.639 --> 01:25:16.960
what I found is that for my eyes, even though they were much less fatigued, I

01:25:15.360 --> 01:25:20.960
was having more trouble focusing on things when I'm not at my computer. So,

01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:27.040
that was what I didn't like about them. Um, when I sit at my computer, 100% they

01:25:23.679 --> 01:25:29.600
help. Yeah, I've actually used them and

01:25:27.040 --> 01:25:35.360
have the exact same use case. Want to settle a debate? What memory is

01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:37.600
better? 2x4 at 1333 or 1x8 at 1600? 2x4

01:25:35.360 --> 01:25:42.560
at 1333. However, I would probably go 1x8 at 1600 because it gives you more

01:25:39.840 --> 01:25:45.679
upgrade options and it's not going to make that much of a difference in terms

01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:50.000
of performance anyway. What's your favorite apps with your Galaxy?

01:25:48.320 --> 01:25:53.280
I covered that actually earlier in the episode. There's a few more. Watch the

01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:58.000
archive. Yeah, maybe I'll jump on Twitter later. Favorite mechanical keyboards? I know we cover this a lot.

01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:03.120
Zyel 60 big red for you. Back blaze storage pod.

01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:05.120
That's it 100%. Okay. Uh we were going

01:26:03.120 --> 01:26:09.920
to get to that. There you go. Oh crap, we almost forgot that. Right. Oh yes, I

01:26:08.400 --> 01:26:13.679
put it here so I wouldn't forget. Okay, sorry. Sorry, sorry. We'll go back to

01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:21.280
Guys, keep sending in your comments on the uh on the money likes thing.

01:26:17.400 --> 01:26:23.840
Um, okay. So, did I tell you about this?

01:26:21.280 --> 01:26:29.920
You I These are Twinkies, right? Yes. Okay. So, I This is the first time I

01:26:27.120 --> 01:26:34.480
have ever actually received mail from a viewer. Dear Lionus Sebastian, I heard

01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:38.560
on one of your live streams that you have never had a Twinkie. I figured that

01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:42.080
because it is the Christmas season, I would give a gift on behalf of all the

01:26:40.480 --> 01:26:47.199
hard work you do to bring us Linus Tech Tips, your live stream, and all the other channels you're associated with. I

01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:51.639
hope you enjoy your first Twinkie, and have a very merry Christmas. Sincerely,

01:26:50.480 --> 01:26:58.000
Ryan 9298B2 on Twitter. Postcript RIP

01:26:55.800 --> 01:27:03.760
Hostess. So, I don't know if you remember this, Ryan, but neither Slick

01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:08.719
nor I have ever eaten a Twinkie before. So, this is a sealed Twinkie box. Okay.

01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:12.800
And guys, I'm not encouraging everyone to send me mail because I I don't need I

01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:17.840
don't need more mail to be perfectly honest, but I was really touched because

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:22.080
this is the first time I've ever gotten mail from a from a viewer and it's the

01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:26.560
Christmas season and all that. So, okay, Twinky on live Twinkie unboxing. So,

01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:31.040
let's see what Hostess has to say for themselves about the Twinkie. The

01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.040
product is enlarged to show detail of

01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:37.679
the texture. There are 10 individually wrapped cakes with a best before date of

01:27:35.360 --> 01:27:41.120
uh December Oh, December 14th. I should have probably eaten it right away. What

01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:43.520
year, though? Oh, I don't know. This year. That's okay. I'm going to eat it

01:27:42.320 --> 01:27:48.239
anyway. Don't worry about it. It's probably fine. Golden sponge cake with

01:27:45.440 --> 01:27:51.360
creamy filling. Follow us on Facebook. Don't miss out on all the great new

01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:54.400
recipes, sweet exclusive offers. The ingredients include nutritional facts

01:27:53.040 --> 01:27:59.880
that are Okay, I'm sort of skipping through here. So, here we go. When we

01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:07.760
open up the box, we discover that inside there are 10 golden

01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:10.760
treats. One for you. Oh god. And one for

01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:10.760
me.

01:28:11.040 --> 01:28:16.960
I have to say part of the reason I've never had a Twinkie is it's never really

01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:20.239
held much appeal for me. All I remember growing up as a kid is

01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:25.360
the only thing that lives through a nuclear holocaust is cockroaches and

01:28:22.280 --> 01:28:27.440
Twinkies. I was always just like, uh,

01:28:25.360 --> 01:28:31.199
okay. Yeah, I always sort of took that approach to it, too. So, here we go.

01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:35.440
We're having our first Twinkie experience. And there's, of course, nothing erotic about

01:28:40.520 --> 01:28:45.080
it. It's a little dry.

01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:54.719
A little cold. It's cold. Okay.

01:28:51.280 --> 01:28:57.679
It tastes good, but it also tastes like

01:28:54.719 --> 01:29:01.840
just fat. Yeah, it's like a bread with like, you

01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:05.920
know, fake whipped cream in it. If I had real whipped

01:29:03.080 --> 01:29:09.719
cream. I'm going to finish it though, just for Ryan's sake.

01:29:12.639 --> 01:29:21.880
So, thank you, Ryan. I got a chance to eat a

01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:25.280
Twinkie before they were gone forever.

01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:28.159
And just for that, we are going to take

01:29:25.280 --> 01:29:33.600
one of these Twinkies or the box and we are putting it on the wall of legend

01:29:30.360 --> 01:29:35.280
because this is the first viewer mail

01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:41.120
that we have ever received. It was very thoughtful and uh thank you very much.

01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:42.480
Merry Christmas as well.

01:29:41.120 --> 01:29:46.760
Yeah, I guess this is the last stream before Christmas. Sure is.

01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:54.239
Okay, speaking of Christmas spirit and giving all that, let's go back to our

01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:56.239
Twitter thing. Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's

01:29:54.239 --> 01:30:01.800
it's I'm actually pleasantly surprised, which is it's unfortunate that it's kind

01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:01.800
of growing on me as I go.

01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:09.639
Soon it will definitely not be a Twinkie up on the wall. It's going to be the empty box after Lionus eats the whole

01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:16.440
thing. Jeez, man. You're giving me away. Okay, so go back up to the

01:30:13.080 --> 01:30:19.040
top. 122 new interactions. Here we

01:30:16.440 --> 01:30:22.400
go. Info on treating Alzheimer's. Very knowledgeable men. Okay, I'm not I'm not

01:30:20.880 --> 01:30:29.840
a doctor. I'm not trying to treat it. It's just helpful. Okay, Jose, great suggestion.

01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:34.080
Um, but we'll leave it up to the community at large to decide. I mean,

01:30:32.080 --> 01:30:36.679
Slick and I might have some influence like some months we might just say,

01:30:35.360 --> 01:30:40.400
"Look, we're doing this, you know, get on board." Whereas

01:30:39.120 --> 01:30:43.840
most of the time, I'd really like the communicate to the uh the community to

01:30:42.320 --> 01:30:47.280
decide. I think a large part of the whole point is to have it all

01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:51.679
communitydriven and a lot of interaction from the fans and whatnot. Ps points out

01:30:50.159 --> 01:30:57.679
points out that the cockroach thing is a myth, which sort of assumed, but yeah, I

01:30:54.719 --> 01:31:00.560
take that Twinkie hard. What about the upcoming gaming bundle? Uh, no, no, I

01:30:59.440 --> 01:31:06.280
didn't say I'll talk about it before the end of the stream. I said it's coming later. No, no, that's later.

01:31:04.360 --> 01:31:11.600
Later. Um, best show ever. Linus Twinkie

01:31:09.320 --> 01:31:15.840
tips. Throw away the Twinkie drivers. Download the latest from hostess.com.

01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:18.639
Yeah, as if Twinkies last forever. What form software are you going to use?

01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:23.440
We're going to use Vulletin. And moderators will be selected will be

01:31:20.320 --> 01:31:25.199
handpicked by me and Slick based on how

01:31:23.440 --> 01:31:30.080
helpful people are, how positive they are, as um how regularly they're

01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:34.880
contributing to the community. And uh yeah, we're not taking applications. We

01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:39.120
are going to look for the people that are really proactive about helping

01:31:36.679 --> 01:31:43.040
people. Higher memory on video cards. Yes, it matters, but it doesn't help at

01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:46.560
all for higher refresh rates or higher resolutions. You need more memory for

01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:51.760
higher resolutions. Yeah. And like multimonitors and stuff. I will download

01:31:49.040 --> 01:31:55.040
an auto script. Excellent. I don't know if we're allowed saying

01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:58.320
that for liking videos. Yeah, we can say

01:31:56.880 --> 01:32:05.040
there's a script. I don't know. We're not providing it to them, but you're encouraging. I don't know. Whatever.

01:32:03.120 --> 01:32:08.000
Um, Lionus Twinkie tips just changed my fan speed. I think donating money for

01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:12.320
likes and shares on your videos is a brilliant idea. Okay. Yeah. See, that's

01:32:10.080 --> 01:32:16.560
that's the attitude. Helping people for the click of a mouse. You guys should

01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:20.159
have to do nothing. Ultimately, yes, I will obtain more advertising revenue and

01:32:18.639 --> 01:32:24.000
then a portion of that gets to go to help people. So, I think we all kind of

01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:27.679
win. Yeah, I think it's actually pretty awesome. Um, money idea seems good. just

01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:33.199
feels like a lot of people have already done it. That's okay. We're going to do it regularly and I don't think I

01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:37.199
actually know of no one who does based on likes and does it consistently every

01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:41.679
month or quarter. The idea is we'll be doing it all the time. So, it's supposed

01:32:39.280 --> 01:32:46.000
to be like a fairly big part of the more the forum I think. Yeah. And big part of

01:32:44.320 --> 01:32:51.280
the community driven aspect instead of like this random thing. Thoughts on

01:32:49.120 --> 01:32:55.280
Gangdom Style reaching 1 billion views? Incredible. That's just outstanding.

01:32:53.840 --> 01:33:00.400
Within like six months, it's the most viewed video on YouTube ever. That's insane. I don't even know. That's so

01:32:58.480 --> 01:33:05.520
much time spent watching a video. I mean, I would have thought something like Charlie bit my finger was like kind

01:33:03.120 --> 01:33:09.560
of untouchable just cuz it's like so legendary. It's like the first

01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:15.440
ultraviral video on YouTube, but I was wrong. I've only watched it

01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:19.440
once. The first donation should go for some razors for Slick. Very good. Honey

01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:23.600
Light's been good. Okay. Have you tried the program Flux? Yeah, Flux is awesome.

01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:26.719
Uh, I haven't tried it, but I've heard it's like outstanding. Awesome. Unless

01:33:25.360 --> 01:33:32.159
you're someone who's good at like edit photos or video, but best red switch

01:33:29.320 --> 01:33:35.280
keyboard. That's like asking us like which semi-truck has the best mileage.

01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:39.760
It's like you could answer the question, but Oh, well, no, that's valid. Hold on.

01:33:37.440 --> 01:33:45.920
It's like asking us which motorcycle has the greatest towing capacity.

01:33:43.040 --> 01:33:49.120
It's like, yeah, neither Slick nor I are really cherry MX red. Yeah, that's I was

01:33:47.679 --> 01:33:54.880
just going to preface that neither of us are fans of red. Um I I I actually don't

01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:57.360
know anyone who is, but like you're Why are you going to be like that? I'm sure

01:33:56.320 --> 01:34:02.480
there are people that are fans of them and I would probably ask them. Um yeah,

01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:03.920
I'm more of a brown black guy

01:34:02.480 --> 01:34:09.480
and I'm more of a blue. Although based on, you know, my choice of wife, you'd think I'd like Cherry MX yellow.

01:34:09.760 --> 01:34:17.040
Okay, moving along. ITX versus MATX versus ATX. Size

01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:20.480
versus expansion. Uh you know what? That's not a bad one for maybe next

01:34:18.400 --> 01:34:25.440
week. That's a topic in Yeah, that's like a whole topic. Yeah. Live stream on

01:34:23.040 --> 01:34:29.840
Twitch TV. Oh, now what? Oh, okay. He's just tweeting that he's Oh, thank you.

01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:34.000
He's calling us out or calling out that he does stuff that involves watching us.

01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:38.080
Think this is super creative way to not gravel for likes. Yes, cuz gravels are

01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:41.360
stupid. I have no idea what the scripts do or don't do. I can't encourage you to

01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:48.440
use them apparently and I've never used them myself, so sorry. Oh, well, there

01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:51.040
there you go. I didn't give you this.

01:34:48.440 --> 01:34:56.080
Um, add a donation button. You know what? I'm actually not going to add a

01:34:53.600 --> 01:35:03.840
donation button. Um, I think that that gets very complicated. I would like for

01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:06.320
you guys to find ways to donate that are

01:35:03.840 --> 01:35:09.760
just liking the videos and like honestly if you guys want to donate, we don't

01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:13.520
want it to be through us. Yeah. You can donate to whatever. We want to have our

01:35:11.280 --> 01:35:16.880
own pool of money and like the accounting gets very complicated I

01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:22.000
think. Yeah. Yeah. And like if you guys want to set up like I've heard of donation teams like there's a there's an

01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:25.440
OCN group like if you guys want to make your own little thing on the form like

01:35:23.360 --> 01:35:29.199
that's awesome like that's cool but just run it like we we don't want to have the

01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:32.719
accounting stuff on our end and we don't want to have the liability on our so

01:35:31.040 --> 01:35:37.120
encourage other people to like our videos and you'll be

01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:41.040
inherently donating to us and it won't even cost you anything which is great.

01:35:38.480 --> 01:35:44.639
Yeah. Um, and we I mean we may take donations for the forum in the form of

01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:49.360
like a paid account that gives you a special avatar or something, but for

01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:53.840
that we'd be looking at sort of how much we need to keep the forum running, not

01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:57.120
as a profit center and not as a charity thing like just that would be more like

01:35:55.760 --> 01:36:03.040
donating to the forum. Yeah, that wouldn't be to the charity at all. Yeah.

01:35:59.920 --> 01:36:04.960
Okay. THQ gone and bought by Ubisoft.

01:36:03.040 --> 01:36:07.760
Have you heard about this? Yes. I didn't know it was Ubisoft, but I knew they

01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:11.280
filed for bankruptcy and I knew there's a very highprofile name that was buying

01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:16.719
them. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, like the

01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:18.719
donations idea. Cool. Yes, please do

01:36:16.719 --> 01:36:23.199
spam the likes. Thank you, Brian. I mean, if everyone who's watching this

01:36:20.080 --> 01:36:25.360
live stream right now, which is 2,200 of

01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:28.560
you, if every one of you guys just take two seconds and like every video, that

01:36:27.280 --> 01:36:32.480
will make a huge difference for me personally. Like, it re it actually

01:36:30.719 --> 01:36:37.440
does. It shouldn't. And I kind of hate it. Like, I really do. Like I think

01:36:35.040 --> 01:36:41.360
about this guys, I've gone five years without soliciting likes. I hate it. I

01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:44.159
think it's stupid. It's actually a big deal. Ever since I joined on, he's

01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:49.520
commented about how he doesn't like asking for likes. So this Yeah. Yeah.

01:36:47.440 --> 01:36:54.639
Enjoying the stream. Lionus will be using VBulletin downloading an auto like

01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:57.440
plugin as we speak. Thanks, bro. The idea is great. And sooner you guys

01:36:56.239 --> 01:37:02.400
start, the sooner we'll support you in every way. Cool. And we'll get it going as soon as we like get our stuff

01:37:00.639 --> 01:37:08.480
together. We've got CES coming up. We both got family stuff for Christmas.

01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:09.760
So, yeah, good suggestion. Okay,

01:37:08.480 --> 01:37:14.080
community involvement is always great. So, it sounds like you guys are totally

01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:17.920
supportive. Oh, going home. And this Alex, great point. I think it's a good

01:37:16.480 --> 01:37:22.880
idea, but I don't know how many people will hear about it, but I like the idea.

01:37:20.040 --> 01:37:26.560
Alex, I'm putting you personally in charge of being every single person

01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:31.199
watching. You guys are all personally responsible for helping us with this.

01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:36.239
Like I said, I want the top comment on every video to be about this program,

01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:40.080
about how liking Linus Tech Tips videos is going to help support this cause with

01:37:38.480 --> 01:37:42.960
some kind of, you know, a link to the forum thread where we're discussing the

01:37:41.679 --> 01:37:46.719
one for this month. Like, I want you guys to get involved in a way that

01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:51.040
doesn't cost anything, but really helps us helps out everybody. So, that means

01:37:49.360 --> 01:37:54.800
if one person comments about it, you guys all need to glom on and like that

01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:58.880
comment, help boost it up to the top, help get this ball going so that I don't

01:37:57.119 --> 01:38:03.760
have to plead for likes. I'm pleading with you now once and other than

01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:06.719
announcing the program on a video on YouTube, which I'll probably do, this

01:38:05.280 --> 01:38:11.880
will be the one time I'm going to do it. I want you guys to spearhead

01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:18.960
this. Okay. Uh Okay. I think that's pretty

01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:21.679
much it for this week. Yeah.

01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:25.600
Thank you for for joining us even though I know you're like super sick. I'm going

01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:31.679
to go home and go to sleep. Yeah, that's sort of Do you want another Twinkie? No.

01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:34.800
All right, guys. Thank you for watching and yeah, I super thank you for watching

01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:40.159
because I think this is one of our highest uh viewer numbers that we've ever had on the live show. So, yeah,

01:38:38.320 --> 01:38:44.480
thank you so much, guys, for tuning in and good night. Merry Christmas. Merry

01:38:42.080 --> 01:38:50.440
Christmas every and happy Hanukkah and just everything generally sort of, you

01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:52.719
know, happy winter solstice

01:38:50.440 --> 01:38:56.970
time. I have to turn this off somehow. It's way over there. It's hard to see.

01:38:54.960 --> 01:38:58.400
See if I can do it from here.

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Wait for it. Wait for it.