WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:06.960 Seven Gamers 1 CPU, which you can check out over here, was one of the most 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:09.280 successful videos in every way that I 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:13.559 have ever made. So, I determined almost immediately that I had to follow it up 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:19.800 somehow. But one of the biggest criticisms of Seven Gamers was that it 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:23.359 was kind of overthe-top and 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:25.519 impractical. So, in working on a sequel, 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:31.039 I called up a friend of mine for some advice. Hey. Yeah, 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:32.800 Mikey, you've got experience with 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:39.840 dealing with negative feedback about your over-the-top style. How would you 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:44.850 respond? And that, my friends, is how 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:53.360 eight gamers, one CPU was born. 00:00:53.360 --> 00:00:58.960 Tunnel Bear is the easy to use VPN service that lets you use the web as 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:02.920 though you're in one of 20 different countries. Learn more and try Tunnel 00:01:00.879 --> 00:01:09.200 Bear for free at the link in the video description. Okay, but for real, the 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:12.400 objectives of eight gamers were several. 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:15.360 One, I did want to outdo the original 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:21.840 project. Two, I wanted the machine to have some kind of practical application. 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:25.040 If not today, then at some point in the 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:29.439 future, and three, I wanted the hardware 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:32.400 to actually behave predictably in this 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:38.000 kind of a use case. Between the WS board and the R9 Nanos, that last machine was 00:01:35.600 --> 00:01:43.200 a nightmare. I'm fairly certain I was the first person and only including ASUS 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:49.520 R&D to ever try seven cards in that board at a time. So the recipe started 00:01:46.399 --> 00:01:52.079 as it always seems to with Intel inside. 00:01:49.520 --> 00:01:58.320 For months leading up to the release, I had been harassing my contacts, all of 00:01:54.880 --> 00:02:02.560 them, about availability of 22 core 00:01:58.320 --> 00:02:06.320 Broadwell EP 2699 V4 processors so that 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:09.759 I could pack 44 cores. That is 88 00:02:06.320 --> 00:02:12.080 threads of CPU power into this monster. 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:17.440 And they came through. And for that matter, so did Kingston with eight 32 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:20.319 gig sticks of quad channel ECC DDR4 00:02:17.440 --> 00:02:27.280 server memory along with a bunch of 1 TBTE SSDs that I divvied up into 16 gigs 00:02:23.760 --> 00:02:29.840 of RAM and 1 TBTE worth of space for 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:34.959 each of my VMs with actually about 100 gigs of RAM left over for Unrade. 00:02:32.239 --> 00:02:40.560 Because yes, my friends, Unrade is returning for more virtualized gaming 00:02:37.920 --> 00:02:45.120 action. Now, some folks have asked why I continue to use Unrade for these 00:02:42.239 --> 00:02:50.920 projects instead of something like KVM from Red Hat or VMware. Well, there are 00:02:47.519 --> 00:02:55.200 a few reasons. One, Unra uses 00:02:50.920 --> 00:02:57.519 KVM. It's open source. Two, it handles 00:02:55.200 --> 00:03:02.400 GPU pass through, which is important for the impressive near bare metal 00:02:59.920 --> 00:03:08.560 performance in gaming applications that we measured in this video really, really 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:10.959 well. And three, it's pulled safe 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:15.200 storage is an easy way to manage data across multiple VMs. And I've got 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:20.159 another clever trick to show you guys this time, too. All right, so that's all 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:24.239 fine and good and very similar to last time. So, what's the difference then, 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:32.840 Lionus? Well, first up is the Super Micro SYS 4028 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:37.040 GR-TRT, a dual LGA 20113 Zeon 24 memory 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:40.159 slot, 24 SSD slot, barebone server 00:03:37.040 --> 00:03:42.799 designed for high computational density 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:50.640 applications like scientific research and simulation. functionality is enabled 00:03:45.760 --> 00:03:52.640 by its 11 PCI Express 16X slots, eight 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:59.159 of which are advertised as being ready for a graphics card or compute card like 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:02.080 a Zeon Fi or NVIDIA Tesla. Though 00:03:59.159 --> 00:04:08.640 perhaps more than eight is possible with some extra power cables running from its 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:10.799 four redundant 1,000 W power supplies. 00:04:08.640 --> 00:04:15.760 More on that later. The other main difference is in the graphics cards. 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:21.120 Thanks to AMD's half-ass relinquishing of hardware resources, when you soft 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:24.400 reset a system, the entire host last 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:27.199 time needed to be shut down every time I 00:04:24.400 --> 00:04:32.240 had to reset a single VM for a driver installation or a crash or whatever 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:34.880 else. So, I cried about my sad story to 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:40.479 Zotac, and they not only ponyied up eight of their top-of-the-line GTX 980 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:44.960 Ti AMP video cards to ensure that each of my gamers would have a perfect gaming 00:04:42.479 --> 00:04:50.000 experience, but they also contributed the thin clients that I needed for this 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:56.080 very different implementation. for each of their Zbox B series and C 00:04:53.199 --> 00:05:00.560 series with low power Intel processors. We've actually covered Zotac's wide 00:04:58.080 --> 00:05:06.080 variety of quiet, sometimes shockingly powerful mini PCs in the past. And 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:11.199 combining these with some HyperX sodium memory modules and 240 gig SSDs from 00:05:08.479 --> 00:05:19.120 Kingston, we had some awesome client boxes to hook up the gorgeous 27 in IPS 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:22.199 4K 27 UD 888 Freync gaming monitors that 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:26.160 LG provided. Because eight gamers, one 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:28.160 CPU is all about my vision for a 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:32.400 high-tech household in the future. Something I've talked about before on 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:38.560 the WAN Show, a high-powered machine in the closet that can allocate, preferably 00:05:35.479 --> 00:05:41.039 dynamically, computing power, gaming, or 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:46.240 even otherwise to wherever it's needed. A TV or projector, as many desktops or 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:52.000 laptops spread throughout the building as needed, or even a handheld device 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:55.440 like an NVIDIA Shield portable. I wanted 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:58.639 effectively to build my own NVIDIA grid, 00:05:55.440 --> 00:06:01.600 but with consumer GPUs and using Valve's 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:06.800 Steam inhome streaming to serve to all my clients. Not something they had in 00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:10.440 mind for it, I'm sure. So, let's talk then about the setup process. Was it 00:06:09.280 --> 00:06:15.840 actually simpler? Well, the hardware was less 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:19.840 flaky this time, which means that this hypers speed setup guide for Unrade that 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:24.800 you guys are looking at went much smoother. Copy files to USB drive. Make 00:06:22.479 --> 00:06:28.160 drive bootable. Assign SSDs to cache for high-speed OS and game drives. Assign 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:32.720 larger drives to the array for mass storage. Create VMs. Share storage 00:06:30.479 --> 00:06:40.319 between the VMs. Which Whoa, slow down there, John. Kingston sent us like 10 of 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:43.440 their SSDs for this. And you just shared 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:46.080 data between virtual discs at the time 00:06:43.440 --> 00:06:54.919 of creation. So on a single terabyte of storage, you could have 10 VMs each with 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:58.720 200 gigs of Windows, games, other base 00:06:54.919 --> 00:07:01.759 applications and 100 gigs each of 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:03.199 dedicated storage. Very efficient. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:09.639 Hopefully that feature makes it into the web gooey at some point. So all of that 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:12.479 was fine then. But the disadvantage to 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:16.080 aworked solution like this is that while in theory you can manage the entire 00:07:14.479 --> 00:07:21.120 setup from a single terminal somewhere else in the building. In practice, 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:25.520 remote desktop connection session management required this little trick I 00:07:23.280 --> 00:07:30.080 found on the Steam forums to disconnect in such a way as to not bork Steam in 00:07:27.599 --> 00:07:36.080 home streaming. Then I needed to reach out to FitP who whipped me up 10 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:39.280 prototypes of their new 4K headless HDMI 00:07:36.080 --> 00:07:43.199 dongle that can handle up to 4K 60 Hz 00:07:39.280 --> 00:07:46.080 and allows the video cards HDMI audio 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:50.479 device to be active on a remote client. This is needed unless you would want to 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:55.120 install a bunch of sound cards or something like that. 00:07:52.319 --> 00:08:00.240 So then finally after all of that, it was time to get all my gamers to sign 00:07:57.919 --> 00:08:04.879 into Steam on the server side using Team Viewer and on the client side on their 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:10.319 machines that ranged from comfortable gaming seats to less comfortable gaming 00:08:07.840 --> 00:08:18.240 seats. And after fighting with some of the weirdness, get things fired up right 00:08:15.280 --> 00:08:22.800 now cuz I need to play this game. Looks fine. The controls do feel a little bit 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:26.960 laggy. Um, but I think part of that is just the god-awful vehicle controls with 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:31.120 keyboard and mouse on GTA. My gaming experience has so far been relatively 00:08:28.960 --> 00:08:36.399 normal. It was indoors for the most part, but now that it's outdoors, it 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:40.640 seems like the graphics quality actually takes a dip sometimes. Well, so far I 00:08:38.959 --> 00:08:44.320 started the game up. I got through the intros and then somebody pointed out 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:48.399 that my game was going in slow-mo, which it does look like it in fact is going in 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:52.000 slow-mo. No, I don't feel like I'm gaming on anything that's in the closet. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:56.000 I started playing and I'm like playing and I'm like assuming that the tower was 00:08:54.160 --> 00:08:59.279 just under the desk and then it like glitched out and then I was like, 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:04.080 "Wait." And then I like thought about it and I was like, 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:05.760 "Oh, latency pretty smooth. Like it's 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:08.959 it's it's pretty seamless. It doesn't seem like I said it doesn't seem like 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:13.360 I'm running remotely. It feels like I'm I'm hooked up to like a full fat gaming 00:09:11.040 --> 00:09:16.240 power. less than perfect, but almost a little bit laggy, but like a little bit 00:09:14.880 --> 00:09:21.680 compression that I noticed from the streaming, but other than that, it's like it's pretty good. Would you 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:27.680 consider putting your gaming machine in a closet and beaming it to thin clients 00:09:24.959 --> 00:09:32.160 on a new TV or if I was playing CS GO then? No. But for any other game, I 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:36.160 think it would be perfectly fine. I don't know about switching, but maybe 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:39.680 consider adding it. Um cuz I don't think I would want to hide my rig in like a 00:09:37.839 --> 00:09:42.399 closet somewhere. But at the same time, it would be useful if I'm out of the 00:09:40.880 --> 00:09:46.480 room and I don't want to be sitting. I I don't want to be tethered to like, you know, a battle station or something. I 00:09:44.959 --> 00:09:51.320 want to move elsewhere. So, so that could be really good. So, I think the 00:09:48.560 --> 00:09:58.800 conclusion here is pretty straightforward. While we pushed the 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:00.720 hardware and the software and our 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:06.720 networking infrastructure, I mean, we are streaming a lot of data right now to 00:10:03.760 --> 00:10:14.079 the limits. Most people's experiences are actually surprisingly good. And 00:10:10.640 --> 00:10:16.800 while I don't think we're ready for LAN 00:10:14.079 --> 00:10:19.920 centers, for example, to just have a server room with a bunch of machines, 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:24.959 you can see there I just ran into an issue. I'll there that was just a hiccup 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:30.000 for while I don't think we're ready for LAN centers to just have, you know, a 00:10:27.920 --> 00:10:33.920 server rack in a closet somewhere and a bunch of thin clients spread out 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:39.839 throughout the land center. I don't think we're that far away. And seeing it 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:41.440 perform as well as it did, especially 00:10:39.839 --> 00:10:46.480 considering the fact that we're running GTX 980 Ti and Titan X's all sandwiched 00:10:44.560 --> 00:10:51.120 next to each other with many of them thermal throttling is pretty darn 00:10:48.800 --> 00:10:56.720 impressive. And I hope you guys can agree and uh look forward like me to a 00:10:54.079 --> 00:11:02.240 future where you can just have one box that powers the gaming experiences of an 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:07.600 entire household of people as computers continue to get more and more 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:11.600 powerful. 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